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Don't let the women of reddit shape your views of women in general. (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]1BaeCaughtMeJackinOff 109 points110 points  (183 children)

Keep in mind that this is what the average redditor looks like.

http://www.thumotic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/reddit-meetup.jpg

So the next time you hear women giving advice on /r/askwomen about how they like sensitive beta men, keep this picture in mind.

[–]kinkydiver 40 points41 points  (3 children)

That picture always makes me laugh. The Asian guy on the left knows how it's done, and the girl on the right is like "hey is that my bus? I could make a run for it"

[–]tedbradly 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Also look at the decent-looking asian chick more to the left hugging her friend. Their feet are strongly pointed toward each other, which is closed body language toward everyone else. "Get this fat freak away from me" is what each is thinking as they are surrounded by one on each side.

The normal dude on the left is wearing sunglasses and drinking as the picture is taken. Is it coincidence that those combined cover up his entire face? No! He's a smart man. He knew he had made a mistake, and he wanted to avoid association with that pack of disgust. The woman on the right looking away from the camera is similar though she didn't have the doodads to block her face.

[–]chainlinks 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Good observation, feet are the biggest tells.

Did you happen to read "The Definitive Book of Body Language" also?

[–]tedbradly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. It's from far ago in my memory, was either a random Youtube video or one of those "top 5 interesting facts about body language you never knew" type articles. Personal experience corroborated the "internet fact" as being at least partly true.

But I find socializing to be really interesting. I pay attention the best I can when I'm doing it. Some books might be a good read.

[–]FreakingMonroe 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Why is it that the nasty chicks flash and the nice looking ones don't?

[–]1mcdehuevo 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Because as has been touched on previously, the ugly ones need to pretend they're sexy by showing off their flabby chest-blobs.

[–]FreakingMonroe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I see their logic. But its hella fucking wrong.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nice looking ones know they're attractive so they're not desperate for attention in the same way.

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[–]TRPCypher 48 points49 points  (3 children)

This is the chick complaining about getting cat-called

It's more like, this is the chick that has never been cat-called in her life and is insanely jealous of women that are. Ergo, she rails against the injustice of it all in the hopes society will stop doing that so NO one gets cat-called. Equality! blamo

Now that I think of it attractive women should be more upset with radfems than men are probably.

[–]colovick 10 points11 points  (1 child)

They twist language to for their agenda, telling young impressionable girls that men and women are equal (which is fine), then define equal as the same and tell them to be more like men, which screws with their identity and leads them to be miserable and destroy their value to men... Yes, women should be furious at feminism... It's cancer wrapped in a pretty ribbon.

[–]Menadian 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If it only had a pretty ribbion...

[–]CallMeMrBadGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's more like, this is the chick that has never been cat-called in her life and is insanely jealous of women that are. Ergo, she rails against the injustice of it all in the hopes society will stop doing that so NO one gets cat-called. Equality! blamo

Thank you for saving me on having to correct that dude. I can say only truly undesirable chicks are seriously complain about such things. Yes, I know some of some desirable chicks that complain about catcalling but the difference is that they actually revel under the fact that they are attractive and beautiful but are having a bad day and/or annoyed by the current moments catcalled (whether for the umpteenth time today, whether she is busy, or whether the catcaller is an unnattractive brute to her). Though, take that heralded women out of the feel good positive praise and see if she doesnt go clamoring back after living the life of a troll ogre looking hunchback.

[–]Mitch3285 22 points23 points  (2 children)

"Actually stop and think about the attractive, put-together people you see in real life."

Ok I am, and I don't imagine them on r/theredpill

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I don't like opinions that contrast with mine, because I might be faced with ideas and concepts that would force me think about the validity of my own views."

That's what you sound like. Actually, that's what I sound like. You need to take some writing courses.

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[–]tigolbittiez 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Check the bottom posts that either didn't get attention or were downvoted. The hot ones that show up late can get some attention. The boring and ugly ones like the ones you'll see on facebook or IG feeds?

They're ignored by everyone besides their close friends and family. They think they have some sense of self and are being "brave" to do what others wouldn't. But nobody wants to see it, nobody cares.

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[–]Samantha_Simpson 5 points5 points [recovered]

This goes for all "circlejerk" subs, or subs dedicated to making fun of other subs. Of course there are always going to be stupid and offensive comments on the Internet, but there's nothing stopping anyone from simply clicking the 'Back' button and going on with their lives, which is why I wonder why some people would devote so much time to regularly reading and commenting on something that offends them.

[–]1rife_omeqa 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Public shaming or criticizing is only ever done for one reason. Validation.

If these people were truly offended by TRP they would simply stop visiting the sub. They would ignore what they find offensive and move onto something else in their life. I'd wager that the reason they never move on to other aspects of their life and ignore TRP is because they have nothing else to move on to.

They gain validation and a sense of purpose by attacking the low hanging reddit fruit. They don't seek to see TRP changed/removed/fixed. They seek the pat on the back.

[–]Lakey91 9 points10 points  (17 children)

Link or it didn't happen.

In addition, the automoderator can suck my balls.

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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

OK so the guy with the plates and the frame was hilarious.

Gotta give it up - that shit was funny.

The one deceptively feminine girl was very cute.

I've always had a thing for brunettes.

I did notice that the more outspoken leaders of TBP were nowhere to be found.

[–]TannhauserOverture 2 points3 points  (1 child)

hahaha holding frame with my plates - http://i.imgur.com/YSyeBAe.jpg

well played, well played

[–]Endless_Summer 11 points12 points  (2 children)

OP is not attractive and neither is the top reply. Next comment down was a pic of George Clooney so yeah, about as would be expected.

[–]2elysius 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I went through the whole thread and counted a handful of good-looking guys and only one girl who was an 8, with the rest in the 4-6 range, with some notable 2 exceptions (OP included).

The most telling to me was how much the women in there think they are a bigger deal than they actually are. If that appearance and attitude is what's waiting for me if I ever become a good person and take the blue pill, I'd rather stay right here in hell with all the hot, beautiful, pleasant girls.

[–]Lakey91 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't see it. There are a couple of presentables in a sea of mediocre. Even if this weren't the case, as Dalrock says, feminists are ugly for they are miserly with love.

A sweet feminine woman can add 1 or even 2 points just by her demeanour. A nasty shrew can take off the same amount.

[–]DavidTIntellectual 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They look like the usual insufferable white-knights and feminists.

The more attractive women still don't look particularly feminine; tattoos, dyed hair, thick glases etc. I suspect a lot of the shots were from 'good angles', too.

The men all look fairly beta, nerdy or neckbeardey as you would expect. No swole in sight, no douchebaggery. OP looked like a fucking 12 year old kid or someone with hormone imbalance... The exception being the black dude, but with dat acne and dose braces I imagine that he was probably considered a loser by his peers for most of his life before he started lifting.

[–]theozoph 4 points5 points  (0 children)

/u/redditorexplorer and I have different definitions of "attractive". TBP features rather generic redditors who don't really stray from the 4-6 range.

And those are the "most attractive" ones...

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[–]Phlecks 2 points3 points  (14 children)

...you realize you're on reddit, yeah? You're trying to claim you don't also look like the average redditor while regularly using reddit?

[–]Sturmgeist781 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The two asian females on the left and the white girl in the pink top on the right look to be the only "normal" people in that picture. Maybe the asian bro on the far left with the sunglasses and a beer qualifies.

The person with the biggest tits is that fat male slob in the middle. Sickening.

This picture makes me feel much better about myself.

[–]chainlinks 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Oh my lord. This image will forever be burned into my memory.

I may never argue with anyone on Reddit ever again..

..and why is there a wizard in the front?

[–]LineOfCoke 26 points27 points  (0 children)

aaaaand i suddenly feel really fucking good about myself.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Oh my fucking god, what the fuck

[–]colovick 25 points26 points  (8 children)

I love that the only women with their tits out are the fat and unattractive girls... The decent looking ones don't need to flash reddit for attention.

[–]1BaeCaughtMeJackinOff 7 points8 points  (5 children)

the decent looking ones were probably thinking "Whens the next bus coming?"

[–]colovick 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Yep... They came for people like them and found Vargas...

[–]theredpillager 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but that link could really, really, really use a "NSFW" tag. Please add one so the rest of the people browsing at work don't click unknowingly. I'm not trying to lose my job over here.

Not to mention I don't need to see those nasty tig ole bitties.

[–]steakknife 2 points2 points [recovered]

Is that also what TRPers look like? Makes sense now...

[–]Equipoisonous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Only person to point out that all the men are just as fat and ugly too.

[–]Average_Black_Man 9 points10 points  (25 children)

There are actually a couple of attractive people in there which surprised me. Those two girls with shirts on in the front row are smokin

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Is it coincidence that the women who kept their clothes on seem to be more attractive then the others?

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Of course not.

The unattractive ones are also most likely the ones posting in /r/feminisms about how they are victims of rape and sexual assault.

[–]1BaeCaughtMeJackinOff 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Yea but most likely those butch hambeasts are the ones giving advice on /r/askwomen

[–]Average_Black_Man 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Oh for sure. All I was saying is it surprised me chicks that hot are on reddit, even more so that they went to a fucking meetup.

[–]anonlymouse 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'd take -200 odds that's the last time they went to a reddit meetup.

[–]TRPCypher 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Hot chicks on reddit are on the frontpage and /r/aww or /r/ladybonersgonecuddly and shit.

[–]beltwaytr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought that last one was an exaggeration. I was wrong and you are right. I'm going to go shake my head in disappointment for 5 minutes.

[–]colovick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They went thinking they'd find guys at their SMV and found they are a stark minority...

[–]smile_e_face 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Girl on the far right doesn't look bad.

[–]1BaeCaughtMeJackinOff 16 points17 points  (4 children)

shes probably thinking "Ive made a huge mistake"

[–]tony_douglas 13 points14 points  (1 child)

its pretty funny... the asian guy on the left and the girl on the right are the only normal looking ones...

they were probably new to the city/town and nerdy and thought the meetup would be a good idea

i remember going to a brewery and seeing a reddit meetup--- literally all neckbeards and one cute girl

[–]TRPCypher 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Nah, imagine the validation they got out of this? I guarantee no one got laid though.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Asian dude on the left had a chance if his game is tight

[–]NDMagoo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And they're keeping it classy, just standing there clothed and smiling, while the hamplanets are all flashing their nasty udders!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Only because they are standing next to the beached land whales. Put them in a room with h/w proportional women and they would be average at best.

[–]Average_Black_Man 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know, The one in glasses seems high tier to me. I have an asian fetish though so I guess my opinion is biased.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I haven't posted in this sub in a long time. That picture....that picture has ruined my day. If a Meteor came down and wiped that herd of water buffalo out the world would be a better place. (Fuck, I hate nasty fat bitches with their nasty flabby asses and shit-tits).

[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If a Meteor came down and wiped that herd of water buffalo out the world would be a better place.

Nah. That's just what the majority of keyboard warriors look like. It's just the way it is. They have a right to exist, and continue posting bullshit on reddit. Deal with it.

[–]tedbradly 2 points3 points  (7 children)

That's actually a Reddit meet up? Why are all the women showing their fat breasts?

[–]Sturmgeist781 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Why are all the women showing their fat breasts?

They are sticking it to the man and fighting Patriarchy.

[–]beltwaytr 5 points6 points  (5 children)

their breasts are the only part on them that isn't fat...

[–]tallwheel 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Well, technically breasts are fat, but you could say that the only advantage to being a fat woman is that you will also tend to have large breasts. That's really not much of an advantage, though, since few men are impressed by large breasts when they are attached to fat women. For guys who can only get fat chicks though... I guess they had might as well appreciate the few assets their fat chick has.

[–]KilgoreTrouserTrout 52 points53 points  (27 children)

I always thought it was because most redditors are college kids. Young people are exploring their new adulthood, sexuality, and trying to figure out who they are and how they fit into the world. Colleges are always hotbeds of political debate/discussion, and a lot of outrage against the status quo. It's an environment where "intellectual" debates are prevalent, and they are still desperate to fit in. As people get older and get jobs, they find that all that stuff isn't as relevant to them anymore. Most people also eventually realize that if you spend all your time arguing and outraging, you turn into a bitter person with few friends. Most. I've met few hardcore feminists in the real world after college, and the ones I have still have one foot in academia one way or another (planning to go back for a Masters, etc).

[–]LineOfCoke 11 points12 points  (21 children)

yeah but onreddit we have this crazy thing where they support the status quo and pretend they espousing nw unique edgey ideas. its fucking mind boggling.

[–]TRPCypher 15 points16 points  (12 children)

No, it's not. It's perfectly normal to want to be accepted in your peer-group, even more-so for women, at that age.

I'm in my 40s and yes, reddit has got to be at least 80% 15-25 year olds without a doubt. Spend 5 minutes in /r/trees or /r/politics for confirmation.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if these same tumblerinas repent before they're 40. I had some pretty dumb ideals in my 20s.

[–]beltwaytr 3 points4 points  (11 children)

I swear every time I pop on reddit I discover a subreddit I never knew existed. Figures it would be about weed.

[–]100Timeswww 8 points9 points  (10 children)

That place is probably the friendliest corner of Reddit though

[–]TRPCypher 10 points11 points  (8 children)

Well duh, they're all high lol. But as a 40 yr old man that's been a regularly smoker for over 20 years they are children and behave as such. It's ridiculous.

[–]chakravanti93 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Make no mistake, it is easy as fuck to troll r/trees

[–]dancingwithcats 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It is. Just tell them that Taco Bell is giving away free burritos to anyone in the next 2 hours who shows up with red eyes and watch them all run.

[–]chakravanti93 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Taco Bell should pay someone to troll r/trees and award gold for best raeges. 'Cuz you know they're gonna get there and just be like fuck it, I have to clock in any way might as well just eat some.

[–]TRPCypher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first day on reddit I posted a pic of a 4 year old girl smoking a cigarette to /r/trees and said "this is how you all look to me". Banned lol

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[–]TRPCypher 11 points12 points  (5 children)

“Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.” - Winston Churchill

I can count the number of conservatives I've seen on reddit on one hand. Except of course the specifically conservative forums. They're here but they're laying low.

[–]colovick 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree... I have no heart

[–]Menadian 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Obviously I have neither heart or brain...

[–]TRPCypher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you identify the libertarian in the room?

[–]Sturmgeist781 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Can confirm:

I am heartless.

[–]100Timeswww 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Reddit considers CNN to be right smack dab in the middle of the political spectrum. Utterly ridiculous to even consider that.

[–]chainlinks 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is insightful. I never thought about the population that way and took the thought train one step further.

[–]mctoasterson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very much this. Post college dulthood forces people to jettison some of their vitriol over these perceived oppressions amd focus instead on the pragmatic like paying the goddamn bills.

[–][deleted] 90 points91 points  (38 children)

To be honest it's not just the women of reddit. Go on /r/getmotivated and the majority of posts are talking about losing weight. Go on /r/fitness and users are patting eachother on the back for the most minor of feats. Go on /r/investing and watch everyone be late on a hyped up stock. Go on /r/theredpill and read comments about how members post that they really need to hit the gym. Reddit is an echo chamber of mediocrity.

[–]ibuprofiend 71 points72 points  (14 children)

What's worse, Reddit is becoming the new Tumblr. This site used to be a place for neckbeards to talk about programming and share porn, now it's a place for liberal college students to kill brain cells and feel offended by stupid shit.

[–]Trosso 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Depends on what subreddits you subscribe to really. I avoid all of those stupid subs for ones that genuinely interest me.

[–]ibuprofiend 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That's true to some extent I guess. Really any big sub is going to be shit. The karma system ensures that. Upvoting and downvoting was a brilliant way to sort content, but it's also a very blunt instrument that rewards the lowest common denominator and encourages groupthink. That's why only small subs like TRP actually have good content (and even TRP is getting too big).

[–]colovick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TRP is one of a few places that's properly moderated and policed for content... Over said it before, but we've never reached an Eternal September level of influx, so things settle back into the norm within a few weeks of big influxes of new people... We'll exist until the mods get lazy and then we'll move somewhere else.

[–]2elysius 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It does not depend on subs as much as you'd think. I've been a member ever since there weren't subreddits (this is my RP throwaway) and the general vibe sitewide has been steadily veering towards the progressive/liberal. There's clearly been a shift in the general user demographics of the site in the past three years or so. The newly-arrived SJWs don't just stick to their niche circlejerks.

[–]CallMeMrBadGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Been around for a long ass time too. Since maybe before my first deployment and while Digg was still big and reddit was a whatever. Though, reddit has always been progressive and liberal which I originally think was a good thing though definitely within the past 4 years or so the SJWs have gone further left and it's making the website naseauting. Even the admins seem to be more partial to SJW. Gender issues on this website are always a timebomb if you dont subscribe to the tumblr radfeminist brand of crazy. We've lost a few good subs to this horseshit website feminization and safespaces already.

[–]colovick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, I commented on personal finance once asking a professional about interest rates on houses for people with no credit, aka cash buyers, and got my answer along with 40 posts about how I can create credit with simple loans, credit cards, and shit like that and politely told the first few that it was intentional until I just deleted all my posts there...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, that hit really close to home... I think I need to re-evaluate the amount of time I spend on here.

[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 8 points9 points  (21 children)

This is true. Most people who're kicking ass and taking names graduate from reddit because they have better outlets.

[–]redpill0r 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This is already a more mature thought than most of the reddit-mob is able to form. And it even includes this sub. Once you got your frame in order - in a way that you do not have to even think about it, you will just be the man you want to be. No need to talk about that to anyone anymore.

Keep on improving, brothers - I hope we won't read anything from each other at some point in the not-so-distant future.

[–]throwaway_0001a 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's a beautiful train of thought.

Once you have digested the literature in the sidebar and seen it applied in a few field reports there is nothing more to learn. Go out, try it out, evaluate yourself, adjust. Rinse and repeat.

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[–]widec 15 points16 points  (16 children)

Do you think people that spend 5+ hours watching TV a week are losers? For many of us, Reddit is a leisure activity, you can't be improving 24/7. Everyone needs some time to relax.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Take that 5 hours and put it into learning French, playing a guitar, tailoring your own clothes, learning how to fix cars, do plastering, hang gliding, anything.

Hold to that for 5 years.

Then compare that person to the guy who spent 5 hours+ a week just browsing shit on the net.

[–]widec 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think there's anything wrong with relaxing though. Trying to be productive all the time can burn people out. I just came home from work and it's almost midnight, the last thing I want to do is try to be productive. In these cases, I would rather just relax and do something mindless, like go on Reddit or read.

[–]blinkyone 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't know man, I learn a lot of shit on Reddit and the internet despite being drenched in it.

[–]TRPCypher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is nothing productive to be gained from anything on here.

It's how most of us found TRP. There are lots of very useful subs here imo, it's just you gotta mine for them. I find myself visiting the frontpage less and less. Oh look a new seal meme! fuck me

[–]boreddddddd12 190 points191 points  (32 children)

Askwomen is terrible. They're all "feminists", all have been catcalled by "creepy" guys and apparently 80% of them have been raped. The mods are unreasonably rude and make snarky comments at just about every guy who asks something. I don't browse these subreddits regularly but theredpill seems way more reasonable.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (6 children)

I imagine it's because they are mostly fat dorky women most of whom never get laid, and of course are angry at men for not wanting to fuck with them.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (3 children)

fuck with them

I think we fuck with them plenty and what they're angry about is we won't fuck them period.

Vibrators can't buy you a Gucci purse.

[–]TRPCypher 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure that was a typo and he meant "fuck them". And he is dead on correct. If they can't have the men they desire then no one shall. Mutually Assured Destruction.

[–]Toof 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well, you gotta have your slump buster. If I'm about to meet up with a good looking girl, I try to hit up a more attainable a day or two beforehand. Make things go a lot smoother, I've found.

[–]TRPCypher 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Warm up the mitt so to speak? heh

this space reserved for shoving up the bots robotic asshole

[–]subcover 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Post-wall women who expected that they'd still be able to pull a beta provider when needed. They had seen women before them doing that routinely at the ages they now are. Now suddenly we're out here "poisoning the minds" of those guys so they aren't interested in beta-providing for those women.

Of course they're hateful. They think we've ruined their lives. Maybe they're right. Doesn't bother me a bit, they deserve no better for their AFBB strategy.

[–]ModAerobus 61 points62 points  (1 child)

I remember back when I used to browse ask women (and even post there) there was this one thread that got posted. Some guy linked to a study that disproved what the female OP stated. I forget exactly what it was about, just another feminism BS thread. His comment was removed by the mods (the mods left a comment saying it had been removed for gendered slurs (a Sci study is now a gendered slur, go figure)). I posted in that thread asking why that guys comment was rwmoved. My comment was removed, and later that day I are my first TRP post about that thread. I was promptly banned.

Aw is a joke.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I remember my AW ban. There was a "DAE The Red Pill is the worst??" jerk thread. One user procrlaimed that RPS had on many occasions outright advocated that rape is okay. I said "Really? Could I see those posts?"

Cue banhammer.

It's important to remember that women don't usually try to win arguments by out logic-ing you. They just throw powertalk at you till you yield to supplicate them.

[–]Trosso 15 points16 points  (19 children)

got banned there ages ago and if my memory serves me right i didn't actually say anything besides an unpopular opinion.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 29 points30 points  (11 children)

Echo chamber echo chamber...echochamber..echochamber

[–]colovick 2 points3 points  (10 children)

You mean that thing we get accused of? It's funny how when there's a valid reason for it it's ridiculed, but when there isn't, it's brushed under the rug and ignored... Isn't there a phrase or name for that? Oh yeah, cognitive dissonance...

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 11 points12 points  (9 children)

I like dissent, and talking with people who hold a differing viewpoint is often educational, not because they might be right, but because it can often give you a different perspective on your views. Occasionally I will get into a discussion about ethanol fuel, I am for ethanol and run it in my 1970 vintage muscle car, and have for years. I have vast experience with the fuel and cars, but having someone ask me questions I had not thought of leads me to find out more about what I am doing. Conversing with ignorant naysayers leads me to more solutions I hadn't thought to try.

That's part of being here at TRP as well, some echo going on, but mostly people are on the same page. Some angry and resentful, but we try to help each other. Some back patting but not wholesale 'you go girl' shit everywhere. Divergent opinions are welcome, and are only deleted when they are entirely fucked up, without merit, or simply troll bait. Stifling discussion goes nowhere towards improvement, and self improvement is what this subreddit is all about.

[–]colovick 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Exactly, and that's why I pick it up every few days/weeks and read through a few threads... It's nice to see actual discussion and conversation on these topics...

As for your example of ethanol, I personally only have issue with 1 lower fuel economy (probably fixable over time), 2. Availability (not enough corn fields to replace oil usage), and 3. Price spikes for food (people who depends on our food over seas starved by the thousands when we started ethanol from corn). That said, I have done very little intentional research on the topic, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of that is politicized garbage to begin with...

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Since you commeneted I will provide some insight. Take it as you will.

  1. Lower economy in engines optimized, more like handicapped, for gasoline will happen. Gasoline creates enormous waste heat (80% of its energy is wasted on heat) is highly prone to preignition, and has a low octane rating, so engines must be built with low compression and designed to shed waste heat so the fuel doesn't boil in the fuel lines, then preignite before the piston is at the right place, because that damages engines. Ethanol can withstand up to 18:1 compression easily, double that of gasoline all else being the same. Raising the compression raises efficiency, and 13:1 is the break even point with cold engines, as in not heat optimized for ethanol. Ethanol is more than twice as efficient as gasoline, as proven by the US Navy in the 40s, with it being 42% efficient, which is close to parity with diesel. Thus an optimised engine, running ethanol only, will get better mileage, and make more power at a lower rpm than a gasoline engine of the same displacement. Mine is 13:1 and it gets better mileage with 100hp more than the same size pump gas engine it replaced. I'm not even heating the fuel yet.

  2. We can make ethanol from any starch or sugar, and with more processing celulose. That means stale bread, grass clippings, mesquite seed pods, cattails, wood chips, saw dust, candy waste, coffee bean husks, and almost any plant material you can think of can be used to make ethanol, vodka, and whiskey. Kudzu, an invasive species in the south grows a foot per day, yields double the ethanol of corn by weight, is inedible while growing profusely and smothering the ecosystems of the southern US. Besides, corn not being the only way, we could replace the majority with corn if we wanted to, but why would we? Its a stepping stone to getting the infrastructure in place.

  3. The corn used for ethanol is not eaten by people anywhere in the world. It is used for livestock feed, but the very interesting thing is that its better for the animals to eat the leftover grain that has been through the fermentation process. Its called DDGS, distillers dried grain, and cattle gain muscle mass 17% faster on it, it can be fed directly to the animals without mixing it with other foods and they won't get sick like straight corn. Also, it makes that type of corn edible by humans. If we took all the corn that was used to feed animals and made ethanol with it first, we would have more food available for them and us, plus we would have healthier animals to eat for ourselves. The US exports a byproduct of ethanol to Saudi Arabia and the other oil countries, DDGS so they can feed their livestock. The amount we ship goes up every year and they buy lots of it.

Those are the big arguments, and they are often arguments from ignorance. People don't know what the process is, what its used for, and how it all works. They hear the talking head on TV say "ethanol may cause your grocery dollar to not go as far" and right now with meat it does have an effect. It has no effect on anything else, not even corn flakes, because they are made from white corn which is different from yellow corn used to make ethanol. They don't know, so they assume its right.

The funny thing is I know some Nebraska corn farmers, and they think the same things because they haven't taken the time to find out either. They don't know they can run ethanol in their tractors, trucks and equipment, they think they still need to buy diesel at $5 a gallon. Such is the was disinformation works, even those making the good stuff are unaware of how much better it is, and how much they could be saving on fuel bills.

My cousin farms 10,000+ acres and has a drag car. He runs $12 a gallon race glass because he thinks he needs to change the entire fuel system to run $3.25 E85 that will make more power, be more consistent, and make his engines and fuel system parts last longer. His car is a 550 HP small Chevy, my drag car is a 700hp Pontiac, they both run 9.90s but mine is almost 1000lbs heavier and runs E85 with the same size fuel lines. They simply don't know, and have been told so much bullshit that they won't take the time to find out for themselves.

[–]colovick 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Huh, TIL... I suspected a lot of the info about it was pushed by oil companies protecting their interests, so the only rational arguments I could find were those I listed. Also just to clarify, I was aware ethanol had many sources, the exact argument I'd heard was that farmers were switching to corn farming from something else because of the project for corn based ethanol, which lowered output of crops overall... It sounds ok in theory, but you can't help or demonize people changing their personal businesses to better their families and such.

As for the DDGS, is it more expensive to create/feed with? I've heard similar arguments about grass fed beef being healthier and better, but it is a lot more expensive. I just find it odd we'd use an inferior method of we're producing the product anyways. Just a thought/question...

And a clarification on the compression figures, did you mean gasoline is compressed at 13:1 or is that already modified partially for your ethanol combustion? I would have never thought of fuel compression as a reason for fuel economy disparities...

Thanks for the info.

[–]Huffnagle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Compression ratio is how much the piston compresses the air/fuel mix. It is just the ratio of the cylinder and combustion chamber volume with the piston all the way down to the volume with the piston all the way up. It's not given as a pressure because many factors affect the pressure in the cylinder. Gasoline engines rarely run over 11:1 ratio because of detonation/preignition problems which quickly destroy them.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I got banned by typing "great post" to some woman's comment on some rape story (recommendations of getting a rape kit done, etc, story was pretty fresh).

Reason: "pornographic misogynistic adulterer" due to my documented promiscuity and posts in TRP.

I don't care much, it's too fucking easy to create another account to post from, so who cares?

[–]TRPCypher 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Yeah, lol. You weren't going to get far there with that username bro.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

;)

Part of me wanted to see if anyone would notice. That's why I posted a supportive comment.

I guess that sub is fascist-level moderation.

[–]TRPCypher 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Try again with a more suitable username. Like: whereareallthegoodgirlsat, or lovemeforme or some other beta hogwash and you could probably get away with murder. It would be an interesting social media experiment.

[–]hulk181 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got downvoted to hell on AW for using the term "vaginally defensive" to describe women who won't kiss after date 3.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (1 child)

Just because a woman thinks feminism is stupid doesn't mean she doesn't gleefully see the advantages she has BECAUSE of feminism.

[–]TRPCypher 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is why I hope OP (if OP is a she) looks deeper into how feminism has affected her life w/o her even realizing.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 39 points40 points  (5 children)

I think this post is something of a glorified NAWALT, now I've got that out of the way:

Most women are not feminists, a lot of the women in real life you encounter think feminism is stupid

But still benefit economically from it and carry the general sentiments of it. They believe men and women are equal, they try to exploit men, they believe in double standards that benefit them, they play the victim a lot, now although these things are not intrinsically feminist, they are intrinsically female, bar the equality assertion. You don't need to be a misandrist or an armchair activist to be an annoying entitled western woman. How I see it is that feminism ruined the pool of women, that is to say, it fucked up their attitudes and perceptions of the opposite sex, so even if she isn't some tumblr armchair whale she is likely to have a poor view of men. They made it socially unacceptable for men to exercise power over women, that means to reign in their emotionally fueled shitty child-like behaviours and asinine manipulations, this is why such a developed society has regressed into social chaos because women constantly get a pass on shitty behaviour whilst male behaviour is closely monitored.

Women of reddit support fat acceptance, slut acceptance etc. The average woman TRIES to lose weight, and does not want to be called a slut.

Agreed. The fat movement crap is not a thing in England and slut shaming is as prolific as ever.

Average woman watches a Simple Pick Up video and thinks, wow these guys got balls. Woman of reddit think omg these perverted PUAS someone get them arrested for harassing these poor women.

I'll give you this one for the most part, but if he's low SMV its more likely to just be comedy for the average woman to watch, watching an "inferior man" fail at trying to get laid, that or cringey. Women are solipsist they don't tend to think "OH WOW GUYS HAVE IT SO HARD MAYBE NEXT TIME I'LL BE LESS OF A BITCH!" they just don't give a fuck.

Tangent: Anyone who thinks women have it harder in life than men I'd disagree with, they have better support networks, more rights, are more easily accepted into new social environments, they have less responsibilities and are not punished as harshly. Men are tested a lot more and have their behaviour monitored a lot more, the only positive thing about being a man is men don't get slut shamed, but then it's not even like 80% of the men are in a position in the first place to go around being cads and getting pussy left right and centre, that's the difference between being a woman (giving sex away) and being a man (having to be skilled in obtaining sex)

Being a man is tough, personally I've come to love the struggle so I'd never give up being a man for being a woman, but if I wanted life on easy mode I'd be born a woman who is minimally a 6/10 and just go through life maintaining my waistline and reputation until some man would come along and provide for my leisure and learning. Sure these women get to experience crappy emotions, we all do, but just because their life isn't a constant party doesn't mean they have a harder life than men, not by a long shot.

See feminists/women had to look really hard to find something men benefit from that they don't (women are slut shamed by other women, men don't slut shame other men, but because they're misandrist cunts they spinned it as men slut shaming women so it fits in with the oppression rhetoric) however if you want to look at all the leg-ups in life a woman gets for being a woman, you haven't got to look far at all, it seems to me the fact that a huge percentage of women have sexual power and get constant benefits for wielding that sexual power (even without putting out) is a huge fucking elephant in the room, how is not that privilege? That most women are naturally objects of desire to men whilst hypergamy means most women don't give a fuck about the average man and then you want to say women have it harder than men? Ha, what utter bullshit. They just complain louder and get their complaints validated by other women, orbiters/white knights, government, and society, whilst men suffer in silence being units of disposable labour.

[–]2emptyform 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love being a man because every single hard moment of life you go through makes you that much better. So society stacking the deck against us is overall a good thing for us. What we in the West lack from previous generations is high chances of death from war/poverty/disease, which mas made most men soft as fuck. For those of us interested in bettering ourselves, I'll gladly take a cultural war of feminism where the only risk is ostracism and use that to keep my blades sharp. In the comfortable modern era, without feminism to create hurdles for us, what would we have to struggle against? What would define us? What would make us need to get better in our careers, to have better bodies, to have stronger minds?

"Struggle is the bedmate of masculine growth." - David Deida

[–]anonlymouse 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Here's the thing, we didn't swallow the pill because of women on reddit, we swallowed it because of the women in our lives.

My ex is gorgeous and a sweetheart, but there's plenty of stuff here that fits her perfectly. So yeah, AWALT, even the really nice ones you actually want to get to know better, they just don't have the qualities to the extreme degrees other women do.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 11 points12 points  (1 child)

tl;dr - Most women on reddit are feminazis and occupy SRS, Feminism and TwoX.

Ask a woman on the street what reddit is and she'll look at you with a blank stare. Unless you are in a college/university Womyn's Studies course you are not going to run into women that are like the ones you see on Reddit. Though I will say women in general end up supporting feminism just because it's the in thing to do and noone ever challenges their viewpoints.

[–]TRPCypher 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Feminism is so entrenched in society today that they don't even notice it anymore unless it gets extreme.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (30 children)

In my experience this is a very accurate perception of modern women. They are just more reluctant to share it so openly in real life. Everytime I have dug I little I find the same old shit mentality. E.g. I have yet to meet a girl that thought feminism is stupid in real life. Most proudly owned the identity and defend its actions.

[–]ibuprofiend 32 points33 points  (0 children)

A normal woman will use feminism as a weapon to raise her social/political/economic status, but she doesn't really believe in it. If she's with an alpha, there will be no feminism in the bedroom.

[–]TheOpposingView 11 points12 points  (3 children)

This is very location dependent.

Anyone living on the coasts of America is going to find themselves meeting the average liberal feminist girl.

If you live in the middle of America, you will find conservative values.

No idea about other countries.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Canada here, which is pretty similar to California politically so nothing but feminists.

[–]colovick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have my condolences... I live in the south... We have more trouble finding intellectuals than non-feminists. Not to stereotype though, we have a good balance of views/people in general

[–]aresta[S] 12 points13 points  (16 children)

I don't know where you are meeting these women at, most of the women I have encountered were pretty normal people. I'd say 10% of the girls I met declared themselves feminists.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Even the "feminists" I've met just call themselves feminists because they feel like they're supposed to. The fringe of them may even have some terminology, yet they don't follow it at all.

I'm not saying there aren't staunch feminists in my environment but I'm simply not engaging them, likely because they are very unattractive. On Reddit you interact with people you normally would not interact with such as the obese and the annoying.

[–]TRPCypher 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The same societal pressures that turn men into betas turn women into feminists. Fact, most men don't even know they're betas. So it would follow that most women don't realize they're feminists.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Canada.

Most don't openly declare but fully support it if you dig a little and will declare themselves a feminist if you corner em.


[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Especially Toronto. It's quite rare to find a woman here who feels feminism is stupid.

[–]TRPCypher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do feminists have a term similar to "Uncle Tom"? I'm willing to bet any woman not declaring they're a feminist, especially under duress, are stepping out of line and would be labeled as such. That's got to be worse than any other kind of shaming I can think of.

[–]LineOfCoke 1 point2 points  (9 children)

avoid college educated women and youll likely never meet a feminist.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have never dated a girl who wasn't college educated or currently in college. Even though to me, a girl with a BS degree is worth less than a girl with a high school diploma. In fact I would even trade a prestigious degree with her knowing how to do make up well.

Yet, I seem to completely repulse away the uneducated crowd. My theory is that those girls tend to be openly into a more raw savage like masculinity which I lack. Any hint of slight effeminate mannerism completely repulses them.

[–]LineOfCoke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah. they do tend to like a more crude and obvious form of masculinity. like being loud and aggressive and large.

[–]anonlymouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They exist, but they're by far the minority. So yeah, reddit is actually representative.

[–]_social_caterpillar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some will say they agree with feminism only because it sounds like the "right" thing to say. Like how some people will never admit to seeking approval but we all do it since we're all human.

[–]TRPCypher 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't think a logical discourse on Feminism is possible due to the definition being so polymorphic. First thing you learn in debate or philosophy is to agree oh terms. No one can agree on what feminism actually means.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It is possible, here is how you do it: start with "why is it called feminism not egalitarianism?"... that will force them to admit that the focus is on female issues first and foremost. You ask why and they will start spewing out a large array of incorrect belief including, women had it fucking bad in the past (they didn't... everyone did... women didn't wanna work in the mines), women get paid less for same work (they don't... a long list of credible sources have debunked that myth including forbes, times magezine etc... pull up one on your smart phone ASAP), blatantly false statistics, etc. Rip em apart on their bullshit. The feminist in question probably won't change her mind but the neutral logical observers might.

[–]Dornerthecoroner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My buddys gf rips on feminists and slut shaming all the time

[–]JohnnK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have yet to meet a girl that thought feminism is stupid in real life

You need to change your hunting grounds. Or maybe your're the issue. That's an insane ratio you got going on there.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

AWALT, the women who aren't on reddit just have the common decency to not be huge cunts. Also, the points you've stated aren't specific to the women of reddit, they also apply to a big part of the BP male community. It's just a reddit thing.

[–]Trpdoc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the issue isnt that all women arent outward feminists. I would agree that the far majority are not what we think of as stinking feministy overlords. But AWALT, and that means that they are all governed by the biologic principals and getting into any relationship with a girl who is not self-aware of this has the potential to blow up. All men need to understand the level of their girls awareness and proceed accordingly (plate, LTR, etc...)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most of the women in my circles aren't feminists or anything like the women on reddit, but liberal feminism does control a lot of discourse and policy in many parts of the US. I think that's what many people here are responding to.

[–]sinbysilence 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just FYI, twox is not a great example of all women on reddit. I left twox because of their constant "woe is me" attitude and men bashing attitude.

[–]dadsmeatwagon 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I'll probably gey a lot of haye for this but I think it's kind of important; I also don't let asktrp/trp completely shape my view of women.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

ooooh how dare you think for yourself. obviously TRP hates that. After all, TRP never advocates people to take responsibility for themselves.

[–]TRPCypher 5 points6 points  (1 child)

heh, yeah TRP isn't a cult. We each take away a different lesson I think. There is no kool-aid.

[–]boscoist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there is, the requirement is only that it is red colored. the rest is up to you

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I don't read anything on those two shitreddits. My opinion of women in general stems from how women act in public, around me, and toward me. Its not a high opinion, but I know some females who are not like the norm. Its refreshing to know them. The vast majority however, while some still being wonderful people, fall short.

I like women, enjoy their company, but I will never be helpful nor generous to another one. I can help and be generous towards my male friends, they know it works both ways, but women aren't like that.

[–]joe_bruised_ego 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The women on Reddit who don’t conform to their group think have their comments deleted too. Feminists try to conflate feminism with all women- but most women aren’t feminists, and not all feminists are women.

[–]chainlinks 1 point2 points  (5 children)

This is necessary after reading that "rude taxi driver" post.

Thank you for this.

[–]ConstantWpierdol 1 point2 points  (2 children)

that "rude taxi driver" post.

Could you provide source for this?

[–]QQ_L2P 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lool, I remember I got banned from there. I was trying to have a reasonable discussion but every response was an ad hominem without any facts substantiating their counter claim. I eventually lost frame and cussed one of them out, then I got banned for being uncouth while the members of that sub are apparently beyond reproach. Anything that doesn't fit their narrative doesn't exist apparently. Fuck em lol.

[–]NosemaCeranae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Along these thoughts, don't let men of Reddit shape your views of women in general either. Primarily because they generally have no clue.

[–]Menadian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is the beauty of TRP. It never strays from facts. It may be harsh to shake people up from the feminist dream, but TRP will never portray females as evil or as something lesser. Only something equally complicated and different.

[–]nierexy 0 points1 point  (4 children)

the fuck does being white have to do with anything?

[–]ProductivityMonster 5 points6 points  (2 children)

in general, white women are more likely to act entitled due to a higher socioeconomic status and a more pro-feminist culture than women of other races in America. Feminism was founded by rich white women.

[–]TRPCypher 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah I don't know man I think black women might take the prize actually. They're just not as represented on the internet.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Unfortunately you can add /r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu to that as well.

A woman bragged about how she went to the bar with male co-workers instead of home after work to her husband who was waiting to cook dinner for her. The husband, instead of telling her that her behavior was inappropriate, wussed out and said he would have have preferred a phone call so he would know when to make dinner.

This was met with a congratulatory chorus and even one Aww from the female circle jerk.

I was brigaded and downvoted after calling it out as inappropriate behavior. Then my ability to post on that sub was restricted to 10 minute intervals (I don't remembering it being that way before) - which I assume came after a complaint to the mods there.

[–][deleted] 2 points2 points

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[–]MrRexels 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wait, if you can only post once every 10 minutes it means someone accused you to a mod? Well that explains a lot!

[–]watersign 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the problem is, alot of women are adopting these idealogys

[–]LineOfCoke 1 point2 points  (1 child)

this is true. if the average reddit woman is to women what the averge reddit man is to men, then they are the female equivilent of pussy ass faggots that dont practice what they preach.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

women of reddit are female neckbeards of the worst kind.

edit: except /entwives. They're fabulous.

[–]tedcase 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Think about the women you know. Women at work, Friends, Families, girlfriends, plates etc,,,

How many of them are even aware of redit, let alone regularly come on here? How many women do you know that actually contribute to online forums, or participate in online discussions much at all, beyond facebook?

OP is right, the overwhelming number of women on Reddit are just beta neckbeards with ovaries. Keep that in mind whenever you listen to anything they have to say.

TLDR, The kind of women you want to be involved with, are not the kind of women you will hear from on Reddit. Well done OP.

[–]ConfidenceMatters 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Solid thread.

LOL @ reddit women and their ''you go grrl" agenda

[–]whowhathuhumm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The experiences with women gone over on trp consist of women almost entirely beyond reddit.

[–]Stormhammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also, most women are not like in /r/gonewild - hot and attention whores

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