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[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I unload my insecurities on them of course

[–]dredpillman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was extremely Blue when my son (now 13) was young. I have been making the transformation for some years with the biggest changes once I found MMSL and finally MRP. Fortunately the new me was there as my son went through puberty. The biggest thing is just being RP around the whole family. Gaming the wife when he is around teasing, playing (G rated) with her, touching (G rated) her etc. Getting shit done. Expecting the same of him (and all family members) within what they can do at their age. Even a 6 year old can empty garbages or deliver toilet paper to the bathroom, take their plate from the table etc. When I am doing something mechanical or in the yard I invite him to help where possible and find other 'work' we can do together that is not just drudgery but learning.

Finally when we have had some time together I have tried to point out some key concepts with him. Girls respond to your action. They don't want 'whatever you want'. Talking to him about lots of other things like women/girls and drama. Mostly looking for situation examples where I can show him the RP concepts. Finally I am waaaaaay different now than at his age or even 20 so I give him some examples of how I messed up (was not perfect) early on and how I worked through them to where I am now. So he is not living up to a standard that seems so impossible to a teenager.

[–]alpinehighest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll give you my experience...My son is 20, every since he was a little one i had made it my mission to prepare him for manhood, our ideology was exposed to him throughout his young life...And i have to tell you maybe 10% stuck...until a couple of years ago he had his heart ripped out and shit on.....it was at that point when i re-explained to him the nature of how this shit works and then the light bulb came on.

You see as a parent you can guide them, educate them as much as you want but the reality is your still Dad and "What the fuck does my Dad know about Women, Things are different now" You have to let them fall down, the best thing you can do is be there for them when they do

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I'm an aspiring RP father, I have to secure a RP wife first, though. It's tough because RP women that aren't religious are few and far between, there's one I know of but she's taken. That's not what was asked though, so...

I plan on teaching my son and/or daughter RP ways from the get-go.

For a daughter modesty won't be an option (you can have great style and turn heads without wearing tight/revealing clothing imho), I will teach that sexism is terrible but gender roles are good, no woman should ever feel 'less than' for 'manning the fort' so to speak. Without a woman in my life, my home looks like shit, holidays aren't festive, if/when I have kids, they won't be as full and rich as if I were to raise them alone, the list is endless. Cooking/cleaning is used in sexist jokes by insecure men. Personally, one of the biggest turn-ons for me is coming into a kitchen with my girl doing something (cooking or cleaning). As such, I've been told several times that working on my car, or wearing my toolbelt during construction is a turn-on. I don't do it for a living, but knowing how to do it is a turn-on.

For a son, well I won't lie when I say I will know what to teach him more than I'd know what to teach a daughter of mine. I'd teach him that a full household is required to raise your best possible offspring, that maintaining health and looks aren't an option, etc. It all boils down to reproduction and your bloodline, so I'd teach him everything that I was taught, plus what I've learned up the point of 'our talk,' I guess.. I'm only 25, I plan on having kids when the right woman comes along, but I definitely think about this stuff more than spinning plates and whatnot.

[–]zopiro9 points10 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

It's tough because RP women that aren't religious are few and far between

This is where you're lagging behind. Religion is often RP. If you closely observe older RP sources, you'll see a pattern of people slowly converging towards christianity. It's no surprise.

As I became RP, I also progressed towards religion. Me and my wife converted to catholicism, and things were never so good, healthy and clear.

You should reconsider that.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I agree with religious teachings, but I don't agree with religion. The moral aspect is 9/10, but the dumb beliefs part is 0/10..

[–]zopiro3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

dumb beliefs

Greatest minds to ever live, all christian. All had "dumb beliefs" according to Ko7a, who can't find a decent girl.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I was raised Christian, I started thinking for myself in high school, there is no proof of God, so I don't believe in a God. People that 'feel' him are lying to themselves and those around them for attention. I don't need to defend myself though, I stopped caring what others believe a long time ago. I just won't date a woman that believes in God, simple as that.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Well you are greatly restricting yourself. Religion is RP in nature cause it's been around for thousands of years and did not change in it's core. Dumb beliefs in turn for a RP mindset? I would take it any day.

Also, you can't disprove the existence of something that doesn't physically "exist", for all we know Heaven could be in another universe.

[–]zopiro2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nerds and geeks usually get moist in wonder when it comes to the marvelous world conceptions of sci-fi, in which us being part of a computer simulation is food for thought and fascination. Now, when it comes to a 5000 year old tradition regarding the true nature of the cosmos and the Creator, nahhh, "all humans before me were stupid".

[–]Hateblade0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

To be honest, The Universe actually has evidence of being part of of simulation. God does not have evidence that he exists or created anything. I don't see how it's not rp to embrace realities that may be discomforting, but show all signs of being true. I.E. there is was no creator.

[–]crowjar1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Setting aside the fact that, no, there is no "evidence" that the universe is "part of a simulation," let's pretend for a moment that there is. Given that a simulation necessarily implies action and intent to simulate something and sustain said simulation, you unwittingly just ended up making a pretty good case for the existence of a "God" in the strictest sense, that of an entity responsible for the creation and existence of the Universe, while thinking you were cleverly disproving the concept.

It's funny how things work out sometimes.

[–]Hateblade0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You assume much. Now allow me to assume. I assume that the God you worship is the "correct" one. Now, tell me why I should believe him, let alone worship him, given how horribly he's revealed himself, presented himself, and failed to act in the centuries subsequent to his published work.

I don't believe myself clever, and I particularly don't assume to disprove anything. The evidence is there. Lawrance Krauss explains how our universe is an open one, given to creation from nothing, and how 'nothing' is far more than most people imagine. The slit experiment and other modern experiments suggest that our Universe is imposed upon us by our brains and not the other way around. And that is in addition to zounds of supporting evidence that we have stacked up over the centuries suggesting as much about our universe.

These experiments have been repeated, and can be repeated many more times with the same results and implications. There is nothing clever in this beyond what was possessed the men who first devised them and I claim none of it.

Finally, it's not "funny" how these thing turn out. That's because science is testable and repeatable. Faith is not.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. I've read Doe's Account, I'm open to ideas, but until another plane's existence is proven, I'm just going to live my life without fear of hell, or yearn for heaven. Just because I'm 'Godless' doesn't make me a bad person, I consider myself to have better morals than 90% of religious people out there. I treat others good because that's how I myself want to be treated, I don't lie, cheat, and/or steal and then ask for forgiveness (I don't do that shit, period).

[–]crowjar1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You started thinking for yourself right around the time when most kids raised christian rebel and become atheists, what an independent thinker.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Actually, my family rarely went to church while I was in high school (once a month, maybe), Atheism wasn't a 'fad' among my peers like you're implying. It was around the time I started spending a lot of time in front of my computer.

[–]crowjar1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Atheism wasn't a 'fad' among my peers like you're implying.

That's not what I was implying.

It was around the time I started spending a lot of time in front of my computer.

This is what I was implying.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't see what warrants an attack from you. You can share your oppositions without insults, you know.

[–]crowjar3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not meant as an attack, but to clear away the noise. Your ego built up this "I'm too smart for religion, I think for myself" narrative, so nothing you hear about the topic will be able to get to you while that barrier is up. So I had to pierce your ego. It's not meant as an attack, but it sure feels this way, since the ego is so invested in its preservation.

If this was the 1700s, 1890s, or even 1950s, and you'd told me you stopped believing in Christianity because you decided to think for yourself, examined it and found it wanting, I'd believe you. But, in an age where belief in God is ever-dwindling, when you are immersed in a culture where religious people are widely considered ignorant simpletons or worse (specially on the internet), to think that your newfound skepticism is a result of "independent thinking" is simply fooling yourself.

No, atheism was not a fad among your "peers", but you never really wanted to be like your peers, did you? Once you started spending a lot of time in front of your computer, you wanted to be like the cool kids on the internet, and the cool kids on the internet are all atheists who are surrounded in real life by ignorant simpletons who believe in God. So the decision was already made for you. In fact, there didn't have to be a decision; it was a conclusion.

So, resist the ego's urge to see this as just one big "ad hominem" and take it in the spirit in which it was intended; a call for self-reflection and growth.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Gtfo of this sub if you're not gonna add anything meaningful.

[–]nix78610 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

only if you agree to get terminal cancer, deal?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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