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FR: Threesome Fantasies & Competition (self.marriedredpill)

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This was what my wife said to me on Wednesday.

"I don't know what it is... I just want to serve you."

She felt odd saying it but I could tell she had felt it for some time. It was a relief for her to finally admit something that most of people in our East Coast city ("progressive" but totally repressed & blooped) would crucify her for saying. We were sitting down at our favorite pub, and we had just come from a couples session. I don't think I'd recommend couples counseling but I'd invited her to come with me to my counselor a few times because she's been broken up about the 7 ONS's I had last year.

I broke that news to her 6 weeks ago. At that time it was exactly 1 year since the first ONS, and exactly 2 years since I found MRP. The first year was a frameless grind: improving money, looks, social status. The 2nd year was all about building frame based upon those routine improvements.

When they ask you here "What's your mission?", it shouldn't be about your wife at all. It should be a life mission that she can be a ridelong if she chooses. This isn't RP - it's MRP - and so you should have a purpose to your significant relationships, especially your wife. My wife is my ride-or-die, my social advocate, my private counsel, my financial partner, and I've made it clear to her that she is my primary lover. Not my only option, but my go-to. I've lived the last year in tune with what one commentor said on my one year post:

she'll want to be head slut in your harem.

But first, a YMMV caveat. My wife had absolutely no response to DL 1-10. The milelong chain was all slack until I told her, "Things were getting tired between us, so I went on a date with Natalie." or when I got multiple girl's numbers in front of her, or when her co-worker felt me up. I usually engage in DL 11, 12 or 13 on a quarterly basis. Call it 3D chess, YMMV. She actually thanked me for having ONS's out of town.

So on to the point of this post. About 16 months ago she confided that she has a FFM threesome fantasy. Which a lot of men here said is a trick to push an eventual MFM or a universal get out of jail free card for whatever she wants "I gave you a threesome with Shelly so I don't have to __________". And I too thought this can't be real so I'm here to reveal a RP truth in FFM clothing.

Let me catch you up on the last 16 months: lots of FFM roleplaying, tons of FFM porn, talking about girls we meet, but we've yet to have a threesome. This is my fault/choice. I sense the dynamite here and it sounds fun but I had no idea how to play with it. And frankly, it's logistically easier to just have ONS's on the road while exploring a FFM at home. I understand now that my wife is not sexually expressive (your typical good girl in Practical Female Psychology) but "women can't be prudes, only men." If you know anything about RP, you know that it's 100% up to the man to provide a safe place for her to explore a FFM fantasy.

So here's the RP lesson when it comes to a threesome fantasy. For the last week, all of our sex has been initiated by her and she wants FFM roleplay each time using a ONS as the "other girl". She asks me to look the other girl up online (op-sec be damned), stares at their face and body, and slides her pussy on my cock, imagining she's face sitting on the other girl's tongue til she cums.

How is this fantasy logical? Welcome to the dark, hidden side of sex. Dudes are out front with their cocks in their hands, thinking logically about how to get a FFM. Women's sex organs are on the inside and they are feeling their way thru sex, exploring like it's a dream state, seemingly random desires pop up and make them feel good or bad. Our minds are the most powerful sex organ (read SGM). So the question isn't about what her pussy wants - pussy is a tool - what does her brain stem want? The answer is that she wants to win the competition, something I've felt thru her response to dread and now she has explicitly said to me.

6 weeks ago, when I revealed that I'd been "having a cross country fuck tour" (her hilarious choice of words not mine) she then fucked for me 72 hours straight saying, "I can't explain why I'm so horny" but today she can and here's why. When I got a big titty THOT's number in front of her co-workers, or told her I went on a date with a Russian blonde, she got wet as fuck because she gets competitive. Men compete differently, we don't get a boner if our wife flirts with another dude - at least not MRP men - we'd dump her on the spot without so much as a wiggle in our pants.

My wife's pussy is a gladiator. When it sees a beautiful woman saddling up next to me, it greases itself in war paint and challenges her to a duel. That's what a FFM fantasy is for her, it's about the other woman far more than me. I mean yes she's wet because my cock needs to slide into her eventually (read: I am the prize she fights for) but the function of the FFM fantasy for her is that she wants to defeat the other set of tits and be powerful. Case in point, her fantasies always follow this storyline:

  1. Facesitting on other woman (her dominating)

  2. Me fucking the other woman (me dominating)

  3. Me cuming in my wife (wife wins)

I'm a total noob in threesomes (obviously) so I should throw out there that threesomes and sex in general is about many different things to different people, but they follow basic power dynamics. For example the Unicorn in this situation is not going to "win" in the same way as the wife, but she definitely needs some pay-out and it's probably about power: power to tempt, being dominated, etc.

Okay that's all for today. The real FR will be when I have a threesome. Who the fuck wants to read a FR about thinking about lighting the dynamite? Yesterday after counseling wife showed me an online profile she's made to find another girl, and tonight we're going on vacay for 4 days and her fantasies always explode on the road. Onward.


[–]TaipanshimshonMRP APPROVED39 points40 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If you ever want to do the ffm thing - nut in / on your wife first. Trust me.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Mouth , snatch, ass, or it doesn’t matter?

[–]TaipanshimshonMRP APPROVED8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’d bet it depends on the woman. But - to be honest,

Put her on her back with her legs all the way up and do a horizontal line that gets all of it.

Cover her bases

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember when I could squirt that far. I got to pick my target bro. Gonna have to go for the baby maker

[–]TaipanshimshonMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or get her real flexible

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS. People don’t tell you shit like this but its true.

Wife and I have had a couple threesomes, one was her work friend and the other was a girl we met and ended up with for like four months.

Its all fun imagining till theres two naked girls in bed and your wife is gonna watch you plow/get sucked off by another girl. You need to make her feel ultra confident in the beginning. Keep focus on HER.

[–]Skuggasveinn7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

So this is straight out of "The Sex God Method." Priming her for threesomes by first incorporating the fantasy. Does anyone else have any experience with this?

[–]DownVoteForDickPic 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy Link

I’ve asked multiple times for stories/advice on MRP but there’s a reason no one offers advice here. MRP is self selecting. All dudes on MRP are not threesome potential. Basically all dudes on Reddit TBH.

[–]phoenix_mdMarried Man -MRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ha! All the downvotes you are getting are hilarious. of course you’re right, and that fact hurts, and that’s why the downvotes are happening.

BTW, I think you could expand the theory to say that those who did change their lives around (and now are threesome material) have stopped regularly browsing mrp. I think a lot of people that visit this subreddit fail to understand it’s a pitstop in your life, but not a home. It’s sad when a graduate of the mrp program still feels the need to come here and brag about his sexual exploits. People who can, do. People who can’t, teach.

[–]DownVoteForDickPic 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

exactly. i stopped posting here. in fact i need to get off reddit entirely. glad to see u get it. let’s quit together! but one of the functions of fellowships is to remember core principles. better to find RP in the real world.

[–]phoenix_mdMarried Man -MRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I visit from time to time when something catches my eye. Glad you’re doing well!

[–]WolfofAllStreetz1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Vasilly has offered a ton of posts on this, cmon

[–]DownVoteForDickPic 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

No idea who that is and u/vasilly turns up nothing.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Speak for yourself bitch. Had plenty of MFF threesomes. With the EX and other women since then.

I have not read your post yet, was looking at the comments since I am a lazy fuck and still kinda hungover from last night.

Some men don’t fantasize.

[–]Whiteliesmatter110 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So here is a FR for you on how this went for me.

So you are exactly where I was a few years ago with my then LTR. She wanted a FMF and we were exchanging porn on it, role-playing, etc. To find our unicorn she made a tinder account and wow! She didn’t swipe on anyone without matching. She would pick the hottest ones, message want to fuck, no beating around the bush, and every girl was down. I had heard finding a unicorn was hard, but this was super easy. But she would always chicken out. I decided to take matters into my own hands.

There was this 23 year old smokeshow at work. She was complaining to me that her husband hadn’t fucked her since she had her daughter about 1 year ago. We were a work dinner one night and we went out to smoke. She said. “You want to see my hidden talent?” “Put your fingers in my mouth.” I did “deeper!” She said. I put them all the way down her throat and she said something cheeky and winked. I said. “Do you also like women?” She said yes. I said “Would you like to come over to my place and fuck my girlfriend and I? I think you would be just her type.” I showed her a pic of my GF, she said she would love to. I texted my GF I had found a unicorn, together with a selfie of us. No answer.

The next day she barged into my apartment in a storm. Took all her things, and left. Came back for some of the best sex we ever had, then said “don’t ever let me contact you again. Block me on everything. I did, and she kept contacting me, for a year and a half. Even tracking me down in another country and calling a colleague of mine to try to find me. I was 100 percent no contact. In the whole thing she threatened to ruin my life by divulging things to people. The husband was in my industry, and for a few other reasons, it would have been messy for everyone. Didn’t want to engage with someone so unhinged so I didn’t.

Tread carefully. YMMV indeed.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This whole FR sounds like a pretty elaborate troll.

[–]CaliEd2564 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

No. This is real. My LTR is this way, she views herself as the Queen of the Harem.

“Women would rather share a high value man than be saddled with a faithful loser.” - Rolli Tomassi (I think)

As a side note, my LTR wants us to get a babysitter so she can train her how to fuck me when she’s on Shark Week (I hate Shark Week).

Crazy part is, it was her idea. Also she thinks MMF is gross, because like OP, I know that’s where most commentators go right away.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It’s just not that believable.

[–]CaliEd2561 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m interested in why you feel that way?

We all have heard of cuck’s, guys who like watching their woman get drilled by Chad. OP might be one, or he might be bi, or he might be straight and bored, we won’t know till he does it.

The theory of cuck’s is that their hindbrain knows they’re not Alpha enough for their woman. So his hindbrain wants her to get impregnated by the Alpha of the group. He willingly offers up his woman in tribute to the silverback gorilla.

That being said, why wouldn’t the same be true for a woman? Its the ultimate social proof of a woman’s superiority over other women.

“These basic bitches do what I say, when I say it, and their presence is only allowed by ME.”

AND it’s the ultimate proof of her man’s sexual Alpha dominance.

“My man is so Alpha he fucks whoever he wants.”

It’s called a cuckquean, and it’s pretty amazing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He lost me at “she fucked me for 72 hours straight.” Not physically possible.

I’ve never met nor heard of any woman, moral or amoral, who is excited at her man’s sexual conquests. If a woman is to be excited at competition, which I know is true, what he describes happening is not the competition that he leads us all to believe that he is in.

[–]CaliEd2561 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you heard of cuck’s? If those are possible, then so are cuckqueans. Just google it and/or do research before you discredit it. There’s even a Cuckquean Reddit.

Or just don’t believe it all, you do you.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shelly is fucking you to?

[–]coachdad8 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a low SMV woman without options

[–]CaliEd2564 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Projection. You can’t picture yourself pulling it off, so there must be something “wrong” with the woman.

[–]weakandsensitive[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm curious why you think that, especially given all you should know about hypergamy, women's thought processes, and sharing a man of value versus having 100% of a man who sucks.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It happened to me. My EX had several MFF with me. She is pretty low value.

I think the number of high smv women who will allow a one sided open relationship are pretty small.

Esp if married.

I get plates sharing a high smv man.

[–]DownVoteForDickPic 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

One would think. She’s my dream girl and I could list the reasons.

[–]holyshocker4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dream girls sit nicely on pedestals.

[–]rmuktader7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

what does your marriage counselor have to say about your ONS?

[–]DownVoteForDickPic 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

No judgement on the ONS but the deception was looked down on. I agree with him, the lying was hurtful. ultimately I figured my wife would forgive easier than give permission which is so far the case.

That said she could easily have said GTFO which would have been okay too. Outcome indifference.

[–]RPWolfUnplugging1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lets be real though, its never about the sex, its about the lies.

[–]Giant-__-Otter3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Upvote for the content and rhetoric of the post. I chortled.

You've diagnosed the situation well. Question is, how much power are you willing to give her to chew on regarding that project.

[–]470_2_700_nm16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“and we had just come from a couples session”

You haven’t learned anything.

[–]Reject444Grinding4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I found this FR interesting but completely foreign to my relationship, not just because I’m still more than a year behind OP in building my SMV and frame, but because my wife just doesn’t think this way. She’s literally the least competitive person I’ve ever met. When we play games she absolutely does not care if she wins or loses. I don’t see her ever doing this kind of thing in order to compete or win over other women. But I’m interested to read more about how this develops for you, OP.

[–]innominating0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Does dread do anything?

[–]Reject444Grinding0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hard to say; I’m just transitioning into DL 4 and have mostly been working in DL 3, making an awesome life. So far withdrawals of time and attention haven’t had much effect, but like I said it’s still early. I definitely haven’t flirted with other women in my wife’s presence or anything so far. If Dread does work on her, my guess is that it will be from fear of losing me rather than any sense of competing with other women.

[–]innominating1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How would you know if your wife is or isn’t competitive with other women until you flirt with other women and see how she reacts?

[–]Reject444Grinding0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t KNOW at all yet; I’m making an educated guess from what I know about her basic personality. She’s not given to competitiveness in anything. Partly because she has low self-esteem. It is possible that she would react in an unexpected way but I’m guessing how she will react to Dread from 20+ years of experience with her.

[–]innominating1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you do KNOW you’ll most likely be surprised. Competition anxiety like most things is a part of AWALT. Sure, there are degrees of competitiveness but your wife is human and a woman and you represent resources and the more valuable you are the more competitive she’ll be.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Even though my wife has some fantasies about FFM threesomes, she describes it as being aroused from big tits and tight assess. She does get turned on by lesbian sex sometimes, or general hetero porn.

She has said she wouldn't be able to deal with the jealousy of seeing me with another woman, but will her wet and horny when I narrate fantasies FFM for her.

As far as I have been able to calibrate what she responds to and not, she appears to respond less to higher levels of dread, and more comfort is what relaxes her and allows her to be more sexual with me. Would I like to have a FFM ? Maybe. Potentially enjoying 2 sets of tits and mouths and also seeing her turned on turns me on. MMF has neve been mentioned, and though she has said that one of her friends enjoyed it once, she has never brought it up.

[–]BostonBrakeJobRoTY3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Enjoyed this FR.

Just recently my wife and I have talked about our fantasies around threesomes. Hers being a MMF, mine FFM. I'll probably get shit on for saying this, but I'm actually kindda into the idea of tag teaming her with another dude as well. It's a dominance thing, not a "sit in the corner and watch like a cuck" deal.

We've explored hers via toys and had some fun, but I don't think (atm) either of us really want it to happen with another person. I have seemed to have been more comfortable fucking her throat and drilling her with a toy while she's plugged. The vibe I get is she feels bad (that it's "wrong") for enjoying it. She seemed to hold back the few times we've done it. I've never talked to her about it though, and if I did I'm sure it'd just be me talking to a hamster anyway.

Mine also isn't as competive as yours though. When I told her I've fantasized about her eating another chick out while I fucked her from behind, I could tell she felt more threatend than driven to compete. Still can't figure out a way to explore mine visually, without actually bringing another woman in. But that's the thing, it's just a fantasy. I don't need it to be fulfilled, just a hot thought.

Looking forward to the next FR from ya on this if you decide to sail through that sea.

[–]DownVoteForDickPic 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Life is too short not to state, entertain and explore your dreamlike fantasies. I’d celebrate faggots or cucks who at least have the courage to live life on the edges. Unlike most of the boring worthless “men” here on MRP who are dominated by the world and their wife. Life is short. Get yours.

But yeah I wouldn’t do MFM because reasons. With a buddy and a plate sounds like a better option.

[–]BostonBrakeJobRoTY2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with ya 100%. Really, though, I think it's just mental masturbation on my part. No real urge to follow through with either MMF or FFM scenario.

I do understand my turn on behind it though. Ultimately it's just as satisfying to stuff her mouth, use a toy and plug, and force her legs apart all the while I make her squirm.

[–]simbarlionMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unlike most of the boring worthless “men” here on MRP who are dominated by the world and their wife

K

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

“I'm actually kindda into the idea of tag teaming her with another dude as well”

Faggot.

[–]holyshocker21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As long as the other guy cums in his ass(husband wins).

[–]BostonBrakeJobRoTY7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not bad

As long as the other guy cums in his wife so OP can raise his child (husband wins).

Would've been better. Take an upvote anyway

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

DP with my dick and a vibrator in the other hole (either) is awesome. She gets to be a slut, fulfill the DP fantasy and lets be honest, that shit feels good vibrating thru that little piece of skin separating the two holes.

[–]BostonBrakeJobRoTY-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c

Have an upvote

[–]CaliEd2561 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Upvote for honesty.

[–]maxofreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Looking forward to the report ;)

[–]AechzenMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

she wants to win the competition

Absolutely, 100%, yes.

In the last year, two or three times I've come home and had my wife jump me after I've been elsewhere. I don't know whether she literally smells it on me, or if I have extra swagger and a smirk, but either way it's hard to describe as anything except wife wanting her pussy to win.

I don't know exactly how your wife responds when other women are flirting with you in public. One time my wife pulled me aside and said "she can find her own husband".

[–]Halry10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t this wife cheat on you back in January? And then mocked you about it in January? And then you rewarding it in March by taking her on trips? lol

[–]pacjax-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the only thing I dont like about these stories is the use of the word cock

[–]rAFCdadHUSBAND-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm applying the lessons of this post to myself ... right after i took TRP divorce hit, it has been difficult to stay on track.

My SMV is still too low for these kinds of results that OP is enjoying, however my fitness is getting better. My financials have lagged.

N- count is at 30 which is not bad but not playa figures ...

Being a virgin until your wedding night is not a recipe for success imo.

Thanks for the lesson that TRP absolutely works. +1

[–]S3xb3ard1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

N-count is meaningless, and only serves to validate insecurity. Guess what? You’ve fucked 30 women. If you can do that, you’re probably good enough that you can feel comfortable knowing that it shouldn’t be more than an ordinary inconvenience to get another one if you need to. Do you think that fucking 20 more will give you that sense of security? How about 50 more? How about 200 more?

My n-count is similar to yours (not sure, lost track). Have been offered and had an FFM and more in the past. My current FWB just expressed interest in an FFM (she initiated), and she’s no low SMV gal, either. Security and high SMV with low n-count by choice isn’t any less Chadly than having the trifecta.

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