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The Wrong Way: Don't Be This Guy (self.marriedredpill)

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Apparently this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wen9pI8iDZU is making the rounds on the 'chans and some MGTOW forums. A very very bitter Billy Beta attempts to lay a guilt trip on his wife for her refusal to have sex with him in months. I find the video difficult to watch, but I'm impressed with the stoic nature of the wife, who clearly DNGAF what her nagging husband has to say about anything. It's almost like a gender role reversal where the husband comes in to henpeck his wife and annoy her while she's relaxing in bed reading her phone or playing vidya or something. And while he nags and berates her there is a small child in the room. Maybe this is an extreme example of what not to do, maybe this is not all that uncommon in a lot of marriages. But this guy pretty much does the opposite of everything we recommend around here, and it clearly isn't working for him (or her.)

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  1. Begging for sex doesn't work
  2. Doing housework and vacuuming for sex doesn't work
  3. Screaming and yelling like a little kid doesn't work
  4. Blaming your wife for the lack of sex doesn't work
  5. Threatening divorce for sex doesn't work
  6. Calling names and making threats for sex doesn't work
  7. Having zero frame and nagging and henpecking for sex doesn't work

I'm sure I missed a few more. It's like a Red Pill Public Service Announcement or After-School Video. Notice the guy doesn't say anything much about himself, it's all about her, in his mind. He probably says "you this" and "you that" a few hundred times. Shockingly the wife and kid hold frame just fine through this, like passengers on a train trying to ignore a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

The poor bloke needs to reinvent himself from scratch almost. Instead of uploading videos of him acting like a psycho he could have done a couple sets of squats and deadlifts...

DON'T BE THIS GUY!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wen9pI8iDZU


[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED32 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yawn. He is such a victim.

[–]yyiiii2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo. Cringeyawn

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wife is just a reflection of yourself. She’ll treat you as shitty as you allow her.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Nearly everything in life is some version of a process where shit in gets you shit out with varying degrees of randomness. You work hard at something, you are more likely to succeed. You don't work hard, you are more likely to fail. Act like a beta chump, you get what a beta chump deserves.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The way to deal with this kind of woman is simple and well characterized by now.

DREAD GAME works. Crying and begging don't work. Ignoring the sex denying wife and putting yourself in position for finding somebody better works every single time. You may not stay married- but she WILL fuck you if you follow the stages of Dread Game. Or you will find somebody better. You can give her the choice so long as it is a choice.

[–]grumpieroldman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The OP is operating at about -12. Seems like a troll.

[–]sexy_essex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Standard Married Red Pill curriculum! RTFSB. Read the fucking side bar. I learned a lot from you, BluePillProfessor. Keep it up, baby.

[–]RPWolfUnplugging10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tl;dr - You can’t negotiate desire.

[–]SKRedPill3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But you can create it, either fresh or refresh (assuming of course that there is some spark of your past attraction still left).

Some relationships are indeed really dead.

[–]suprathepegGrinding10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think I was ever this bad but watching this made me cringe at my former self.

Fuck men are lost. I imagine there are so many homes where this happens.

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has been normalized and the women absolutely get off on the power of watching their husband squirm, beg, and ideally, cry. They could get off banging him also but I think this way is much more fun for them.

[–]holyshocker 1 points [recovered]  (25 children) | Copy Link

Called my wife at midnight last night and asked if she was almost done shopping. She said no and I said fine I'm going to bed goodnight and hung up. She hates being hung up on. Woke up at 3 am to an agresssive bj. Old me would of been this guy saying i want her to come home and checking every 20 min where she's at.

[–]AForceNinja13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

She was shopping from 8pm - 3am?

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The branch store.

[–]Kpwn8817 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The lumber yard

[–]holyshocker1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

She got home at 1 but stayed up wrapping.

[–]Frosteecat1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What stores are open at midnight??

[–]holyshocker3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Walmart she went to target before it closed.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

She is cheating bro. That BJ was because she felt bad about what she had been up to. Nobody is shopping from 8pm when the kids go to bed and is still shopping at midnight. Good luck to you man.

[–]FFDGTDS12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s a line in Women’s Infidelity II, something like, men who cheat buy flowers, women who cheat give blowjobs.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man you fags are so deep in the female frame.

It is Christmas time. OP ITT is clearly a disorganized faggot which means his wife is as well.

It is 100% probable scatter brained wife is out shopping till 3am at Walmart like looser do. I am sure she had to wait till the Dec 15th paycheck to gather enuf money for presents to.

Why? Cause OP is a fag who doesn’t manage his shit. Wife doesnt manage her shit.

Yall are a bunch of sperg fags.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude should have definitely sampled that stretchy little hole for signs of recent use.

[–]hidemyface1234Dreadful '192 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

By now he can probably differentiate the flavor of each guy in his neighborhood

[–]holyshocker1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Women love to shop. She's a sahm and I've been on 6 10s at work for a while now so she hasn't had much her time.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Aw poor baby SAHM. Nothing says you are a real man like slaving away 60 hours a week for a job that will replace you within two weeks of you dying and for a stressed out SAHM who needs her “her time.”

And nothing says “her time” like grazing up and down every isle of target and walmart looking for made in China presents for your kids.

Give me a fucking break.

Be the man that doesn’t even call her at midnight.

You have more important things to do than worry about what isle at walmart your land whale is in.

Like sleep.

[–]holyshocker 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

Nah man this chick died at work and they didn't even mention it at standup. One of her friends had to say it to the group. 15 new people start like every other day real good turnover rate. I do need to get more sleep though it's always been an issue for me. Fuckin wit my gains for sure.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Nice job taking a solid hit to the chin.

You might make it kid.

[–]holyshocker 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

I get off work an hr before the littlest kids bedtime. So the wife knows dinner rests on her. I used to come home after a long day and bust my ass to get dinner done and she'd be sitting on her phone. After a while of this she finally started coming to help and what not. I'd act butthurt and wouldn't ask for help but changed all that and replaced it with suggestions for dinner and rewarded her when she'd attempt to make dinner before i got home and that went well for a week or two.

Recently she's gone back to the phone or playing the ps4. She plays with one headset piece off her right ear apparently to hear the kids. Tonight i call on my drive home and suggest breakfast for dinner and if she could pull some bacon from the freezer and defrost it and cut up some potatoes for home fries. Get home and she's in the middle of a nightfall playing destiny with 2 of her guy friends. Kitchens a mess and the pans are buried in the sink somewhere.

I just go off and take a shower. Haven't even said hello to her yet. Not sure what to do at this point.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Make yourself dinner and go to bed. Dont say a fucking word to her. Let her play the game all night.

Rinse and repeat until she comes to talk to you. And when she does smile and say nothing. Acknowledge nothing.

Do not accept the bait.

And dont ever call on the drive home again. Faggot.

[–]holyshocker 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do i feed the kids too and spend time with them before i go to bed and help put them to bed as usual? Shouldn't i set some kind of boundary on the games? I'm confused on how to be the guy who wants her to stop having so much fun yet Pook says to be fun.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Shouldn't i set some kind of boundary on the games?

Go ahead and see how that works out for you.

High Value Men reward good behavior by providing their time and attention to other people.

Not by saying - dont play that game come spend time with me.

[–]Tbonesupreme0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

[–]Big_B0y_B3pIs4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why was she shopping at midnight?

[–]holyshocker3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

3 litlle kids and she left at their bedtime 8ish. She slow af.

[–]Big_B0y_B3pIs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotcha, damn that’s rough. But good on you.

[–]samdepp20180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope that she washed her mouth before giving you a BJ

[–]civilizedfrog6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol. He must be a troll. He has a video of him sitting in a shed while you can hear his wife getting some in the background. He is literally in his cuckshed.

[–]ShotgunTRP2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Link this vid plz. I can’t find it

[–]Raspu1010 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2kviE5D2GE

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I would have assumed she was getting mauled by a dog.

[–]Raspu1011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It can’t be real surely. I wasted my time watching a few of his other videos.

[–]moonchildcountrygirl7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The kid next to her in the crib on a phone or tablet.... wow this shit is bleak. That people really live like that

[–]0io-Tsundere[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I know. It's grim. Unfortunately I think it's pretty common these days.

[–]moonchildcountrygirl3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It could just as easily be WGTOW the way hes speaking to her. Frankly they’re both gross

[–]0io-Tsundere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I certainly don't blame her for not wanting to be with that guy. I wouldn't want to be treated like that! He needs to do a ton of work to fix himself before he could be with anyone, IMHO.

[–]RickTickTickyshaw5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a great reflection on how much this guy doesn't see himself as the problem. Thanks for sharing this here.

[–]grumpieroldman3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He's not the only problem. She is a train-wreck.
The whole point is that train-wreck you up and married isn't motivating herself unto a treadmill.
It's all on you now.

[–]JameisBong0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He is the problem and he doesn't see it. He picked a cunt for a wife that had red flags before he married her. Fuck him, he needs to get his shit and leave. Fuck her and that cuck baby.

[–]Realcirca2472 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Get it elsewhere or just ditch the bitch entirely. Easy fixes imo.

[–]pisstowine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No one likes a perpetual victim, especially not the spouse of said victim. They are ignoring him because this happens all the time.

[–]NoFaithInThisSub 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I swear that's that old Aussie bus driver who once told me the hookers are cleaner and better in Asian countries than the women in Australia, geez me and the other guy (Alpha, one of the 3 most Alpha people i have ever seen) had a laugh.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If he was an alpha he would not be giving hookers the time of day.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dread game is not a cruel trick. It is the way you turn on women. This is the secret hack. If this guy stopped begging and whining and simplify the house she would be eager to fuck right about the time he started getting attention from other women. This is the hack and the only thing that works.

[–]Strip_Bar5 points6 points  (27 children) | Copy Link

New to this, so can you not call a women out on her Shit without losing frame? I mean wouldn’t it be more beta to never say a word and just suffer?

[–]0io-Tsundere[S] 27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If he walked in the bedroom, gave her a kiss, and said "See you later, honey, I'm off to the the gym, why don't you make some fried rice and a salad for later. Bye!" I suspect she'd be doing a lot more around the house. Eventually she'd be in the "Aww do you have to go to the gym again? I never see you. I'm lonely...stay here with me!" "Sorry babe, have to go hunting this weekend, back in 3 days." You get the idea. The whole dynamic there is sick and dysfunctional. She should be the one asking him who he's having sex with when he's out of the house so much. Eventually she'd be asking her friends or searching reddit to find out why her husband never stays home with her, and someone would suggest maybe she should try cooking and cleaning and making sure he's getting plenty of sex...

[–]surfsusaPreacher16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Works like a charm. I did this. I changed my look, New wardrobe style,Got a new Job in a field that has mostly women colleagues in it. A lot of my customers were Professional women most of them single. I was away on business a lot more than I had been in the past. When we would go to industry functions and other women would start flirting with me in front of her and would want to sit next to me at the tables to continue flirting. Boy did my wife flip a switch. She started accusing me of affairs but I had no problems in the bedroom at home.

[–]deathtrader6661 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What industry? What was your job role please?

[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those are not the only 2 options.

Understand that she will continue to make you suffer after calling her out on her shit. In fact you make it worse by bitching about it if you’re beta.

The cause of her behavior is the man’s lack of frame and game, that’s what needs to fixed.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

We don’t see a picture of him, but we do a peak into his lack of leadership in the video

His attacking her verbally is very unattractive, just as his oneitis, couple that with poor vetting, and he is, well “unfuckable”.

Being new, I suggest you start lifting weights right away. Read the sidebar and make the mental shift, that this is for your happiness

[–]Frosteecat1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I watched some of his other vids (because morbid trainwreck fascination). He looks like he has an old red catcher’s mitt for a face. And hangs out in his creepy garage making creepy masks or some shit. Dude needs to look in a mirror.

[–]0io-Tsundere[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably alcoholic, I'd guess. Really needs to fix himself first before he worries about the wife's issues.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No. They reason you can’t call her out is because you are a low value beta submissive...

She’s knows you couldn’t go out tonight and fuck any strange. She’s doesn’t feelz you have options and has no incentive to please you.

Any calling her out at this point will come across as cring worthy and weak. It will lower your value even more.

The first step is to work on yourself.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is true right here. If your value us high enough you can call women on their shit a d they will get it in check. If your smv is low However, I agree with some of the other post that you should shut up and improve. That is first and foremost.

[–]Kpwn885 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is based on the same principle of when a man hits on a woman. If he is attractive, he is flirting; if he isn't, he's being a creep.

With women it doesn't matter what is being said, only who is saying it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The mindful Attraction Plan, pretty sure it's in the Sidebar, buy it, read it, several times, the kindle version is dirt cheap. That book was my introduction to this sphere and its saved my marriage. It answers a ton of questions.

[–]grumpieroldman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

so can you not call a women out on her Shit without losing frame?

You absolutely can. He didn't come to close to that.

I mean wouldn’t it be more beta to never say a word and just suffer?

Probably not compared to what the OP is doing. If you did and said nothing at all you'd be operating at a low dread level because stonewalling is a communication barrier and if she was still engaged in life or marriage she would notice and react. His trainwreck is already down several stages of depression so low-level dread isn't going to work but it would still be better than making things even worse and digging a deeper emotional hole for her to wallow in.

The next thing he ought to do is 1) clean the house, 2) feed the kid, 3) leave without a word.
This leaves her with 1) nothing to do to distract herself, 2) drops the next communication bomb that I'm not telling you when I'm leaving or where am I going. Her hamster is dead; the ship is stock on the rocks. That's when you start using dynamite (dread-levels) to ajar the ship and get her hamster going again. Every time you escalate you risk blowing the whole thing up. If you skip a bunch of steps and go dread-level 10 for a dread-level 1 problem then a (relatively) mentally healthy woman will divorce you. Because of a quirk in the way human psychology works if you have a bunny-boiler/bipolar one if you go dread-10 for, say, a dread-4 issue then once the marriage finally starts improving she may well kill herself (for realz, not star-spangled-tingles).

This is why IDGAF is important and why going through a progression is important. If you're still at a point in the marriage that she'll talk to you and make changes - i.e. she's trying then don't do any dread. Just some hamstering to stay or get more interesting. Work on you while asking her to work on her and start work on you first. But if she's checked out then either 1) you stay and suffer like a gump, 2) leave outright, or 3) do everything you possibly can to make things better first. Which ones sounds like the alpha that takes down the bull by the horns and sounds like the least likely thing for anyone to actually do?

No cleaning the house does not make her wet. What cleaning the house yourself does is drill a message into her head that you do not need her to keep a house clean. As you improve yourself and become more responsible you start undercutting the codependency of your marriage. This ought to induce anxiety in her which is the motivation of a non-alpha. There are dread-levels beyond fucking the babysitter on the kitchen-table while your wife is home and those involve positioning yourself as fully capable of raising the children without her (get a majority of the custody-points) and cutting her out of everyone's life entirely.

Also, one of the most stressful times during marriage is when one partner is improving and becoming more responsible than the other one. Don't turn your improvements into something she's done wrong by being the same (that's not leading).

[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hit the sidebar. I'm betting WNS temp bans you for annoying him.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

You withdraw attention

[–]blackjustin2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Okay, so you withdraw attention - she's going to notice you've been distant and say "What's wrong?" - actually telling her seems to be the wrong thing to do - that seems to make it worse. You just say nothing and keep going?

[–]FoxShitNasty83Captain of the HMS Fucktard10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Work on yourself, be attractive don't be unattractive. If she asks what's wrong just stfu say as little as possible and go lift. Make sure it's done for you... And not for sex (covert contract)

[–]0io-Tsundere[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not really being distant. It's just being busy. The husband needs to be having lots of fun being very busy living his own life. Eventually the wife sees that the husband is always in a great mood and having lots of fun and starts saying, well, why can't you take me with you when you go [play tennis, lift weights, play guitar in the rock band, go rock climbing, camping in the woods...]

[–]grumpieroldman2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This won't work if she is also content to be very busy having her own separate life and could contribute to the marriage further disintegrating.
You must do something that knocks her out of her comfort zone to start dread.

What you are describing is precursory stages getting your life in order and you should always be doing these things even when the marriage is great.

[–]SKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

> This won't work if she is also content to be very busy having her own separate life and could contribute to the marriage further disintegrating.

I agree, but if the marriage is at this level of contempt, then it IS already dead. Remember, one of two things happen - your relationships changes for the better, or it gets sent to a long overdue grave. You cannot work on the end result, only the process. The end result will be in line with what the new you needs.

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What you are describing is precursory stages getting your life in order and you should always be doing these things even when the marriage is great.

Yes! You have got it. Congratulations. The problem is getting guys started just doing the cursory stages. Actually the real problem is guys failing to realize that there are clearly defined stages. Like they taught us on Battlestar Galactica- all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You say I am busy and make it clear that you have better things to do (and eventually that you have better girls to do) than this sex denying harpy you call a "wife." You do NOT say it directly but let her infer this outcome indirectly. She will get the hint that enthusiastic sex gets her your attention while playing her games get's her nothing but fog.

[–]organicsunshine 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Right, but if your woman has already checked out, there is no saving the marriage. File the papers and damage control. Women tend to live life on easy mode and the easier you make it the worse your life will become.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I advise trying to make her uncomfortable first before giving up. Some women are more dense than others and require a wake-up call before they see the light. The rate limiting step is how much you are willing to tolerate but you should give her a clear message (indirectly NOT verbally) over a period of several months before assuming she is checked out for good. They can check back in once they realize they are married to an actual man with options.

[–]grumpieroldman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The alpha reels the fish back in then makes his decision if he stays or he divorces.

You are describing failure-mentality to a T.

I am a failure. I cannot win. Nothing can change. I am a loser. My life sucks. My wife is terrible. I should run away.

I cannot for the life me make any guesses as to why your marriage sucks. /s

[–]organicsunshine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That isn't my quote.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

the medium is the message... once you understand that you will be free of gynocentrism and can actually love a woman

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When both the woman and child seem bored of your whining, you may wanna learn to stfu and fix your shit. Mind you, it's comical to see a "freaky friday" marriage.

[–]LarryT140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I really feel sorry for the kids. Going to grow up with two disastrous human beings as parents. What a sad world.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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