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I'll make this quick. I'm a good looking guy who modeled for a short period of time in my 20's. Athletic, less than 8% bodyfat and very comfortable around women. There's a group of about 8-10 people who workout together at my gym including several women who all know I'm happily married, so the IOIs are minimal other than occasional poke when I make fun of them.

We've never discuss jobs or anything personal, we just lift, joke around and leave.

Yesterday one of the guys in the group told the women that I own a business that they recognized as a popular brand in the fitness industry. Instantly their attitudes changed. For the remaining 40 minutes the IOIs increased 10x. I was watching this group of women aged 25 yrs - 40 yrs go from casual to aggressive. Hair tossing, needless giggling, personal questions, and standing in close proximity. To be clear, it was obvious that their interest was fueled solely by their discovery that I own a company they recognized.

Women are unbelievably shameless when they see something they want. I'm not even sure they can control it.


[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red93 points94 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Hey boys! This plow horse gives milk!

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea what this means but I want to use it.

[–]JDRoedellMRP APPROVED19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Means they see him as a good provider who would also allow them to name drop (famous brand name)

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money + social status.

A potentially fatal combo.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rich beta bux

[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's... horrifying, actually. But I get what you mean.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls will be girls.

[–]no_face25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've seen this several times. Get promoted to a powerful position. Own a famous brand. Appear regularly on TV or even youtube.... boom!

The hunters become the hunted.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Police uniforms, airline pilots, UPS man, medical scrubs, etc. instant tingles tm .

Especially the UPS man -if he has nice calves...

[–]FlyerMileSecrets9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I worked as a UPS man. The job gets no respect.

[–]mclovin198441 points42 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Calling BS on sub 8%. That’s verging on stage shape. Nobody walks around sub 8.

[–]BoggsMcMuncher2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whats stage shape? I'm 5% btw

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

All guys should be under 10% for optimal health--less than 1/2 an inch of umbilicus fat. 8% isn't far-fetched.

[–]UnbreakableFrameGrinding6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There has been a lot of arguing about this for years and years in the bodybuilding world. The general consensus is that 8% is not a maintainable level of body fat. It's a transitional stage that occurs while cutting, which is why people prepare so incredibly carefully before competitions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe not for great muscle growth, but a whole foods vegan diet keeps the fat off quite easily.

[–]Dino2271 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I run 10-12% BF normally. I go below 10% only for a short periods of time.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Life is a lot colder sub-10%.

[–]chachaChad13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They can control it but they can't hide it very well.

[–]simbarlionMRP APPROVED12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, right.

So, does that mean those strippers are only nice to me for my money?

Damn.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just imagine being naive and marrying one of these women.

If I ever become rich, I hope to God I can keep it a secret.

[–]470_2_700_nm5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Um... they are all like that you stinking diaper.

MGTOW is ==>

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll30 points31 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Yep. What the fuck do you think we talk about here everyday?

Your value went up. Their attraction is directly proportional to the differential of value.

A = V2 - V1

If you have the same value as she does -in her eyes- the level of attraction is ZERO. For the beta husbands out there, it’s negative attraction (aka no pussy).

Why a newbie must increase his SMV.

She’s Always seeking out the most valuable Chad.

Once you see it, you will see it everywhere.

[–]straius 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy Link

I really think this statement of absolutes (0 attraction at equal value statement) does a disservice to RP. This is just not true because it's not reflective of reality and that is what we should be most concerned with.

Women will accept men (And yes, even experience attraction) with less value all the time, they just end up with a compromised result when picking a mate, just as we all accept compromises in LTR selection.

We see this all the time when she'll fuck a money poor alpha.

You could amend your statement to say "value in the eye of the beholder" which would be more accurate but then also moves it back into an entirely subjective definition of value.

We peddle too many false absolutes at times and I know you're past the point of needing that over simplification.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Value is not necessary monetary. ($).

If the poor alpha gave her tingles tm , she’ll be dtf.

[–]straius 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not if she's happy and has more to lose than to gain. Women get tingles and don't act on them more frequently than the reverse. It requires a pretty hefty breakdown in the relationship for them to accept the risks of cheating since as a population they're already much more risk averse than men. That's assuming they weren't a serial cheater to begin with.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

“subjective definition of value”

You’re right. Value is totally in the eye of the beholder. Every product has two types of values: a definite quantity (it’s features) and indefinite quanity (what it represents).

Dick is abundant and low value to a woman. The market is flooded if you’re trying to buy dick. Can’t just go up to a woman and try to sell dick. But just because the market is flooded with doesn't mean you can't sell at a high price.

How do you sell carrots at $5 a pound when the market price is ¢30 a pound?

You sell organic carrots.

How do you sell coffee at $3.67 a cup when every mom and pop store is selling at $1.20?

You brand the coffee.

Uncle Chad happily pays $3.67 for coffee at Starbucks every morning because i think it’s fucking cool. They save fucking rain forests and have cool shit in there to look at. They also let bums hang out in there pretending to have business meetings.... I like the smells, sights, and hot chicks who hang out in there. Game in there all the time. Just thinking about Starbucks makes horny as fuck.

Betas don’t understand that it’s not what you say to a woman - it's what you portray to a woman. She wants a status symbol, a brand to give her existence meaning. To her you are no different than a purse or a pair of shoes. Women don't love you, they love the idea of you.

Betas need to stop explaining features and work on their indefinite quantity - what ever that is. They need to figure out for themselves.

[–]Starcruiser280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

since as a population they're already much more risk averse than men.

This is so true.

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women will accept men (And yes, even experience attraction)

That depends on how you define "attraction."

Women will certainly not do the unconscious hair flipping, giggling, and shamelessly licentious behavior for men for whom they have to force themselves to "experience" attraction. I think attraction is organic, not an "experience."

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even sure they can control it.

I'm certain they can't.

[–]weakandsensitive7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The fucking novelty eh --- women people are attracted to (perceived to be) influential people. #futurenoblelaureate

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The realz question is does he have the balls to fuck any of these women now?

[–]civilizedfrog3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They saw a provider brah

[–]InformalCriticism4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Money (and status) makes you attractive.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP APPROVED11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But always remember

Beta bux

Alpha fux

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Status, it's the basic birches bread and butter.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy pretends to be Marc lobliner and we all just believe him.....

Fuckin male model over here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Time to get a home gym.

[–]witnessthenomorebp-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I can't remember the name of the article now I should have saved the link. I'm sure the moderators I know exactly what I'm talking about. Perhaps they could put the link up again in this thread. Everyone here that read the link was horrified it was on the true nature of women and was very blunt.

As harsh as we think the things we are reading here are for some reason this was very clear to many people and they were coming back truly shaken because our idea of what women are, and the actuality of how selfish and blind to others feelings and well-being they are when it comes to them getting what they want, are so far apart that the two concepts are unrecognizable to each other.

I read it and was shaken to the core which was ridiculous because my whole life my father has told me several hundred times including many in from my mother that, "Women are treacherous.". It's his mantra. If those woman's husband had act about a woman who they were told had the golden pussy the way that they were acting about you when they were told that you had the golden ticket they would lose their mind on him. But they gave no second thought and would probably drop them like a rock if you showed you available.

That's just the disgusting truth that we refuse to acknowledge until it's thrown in our face.

[–]weakandsensitive6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck is this? Are we angry incel MGTOWs now?

[–]470_2_700_nm2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Read the first few sentences of each of his sad little paragraphs.

Is this the result of our everybody gets a metal upbringing?

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Naw - he's a snowflake.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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