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From Illimitable Men: Marriage is the only legal contract in existence that permits a person to violate contractual terms and then subsequently penalize the party who upheld said terms.

From Briffault’s Law: Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

I had a date with a lady I met online, I’ll call her “Jan” (because I grew up watching the Brady Bunch reruns, and I always thought Jan was “groovy”). Jan and I met for a few drinks at a watering hole near my house. I like this place because it has pool tables and dart boards. The games are good because there’s something to do other than sit there at the bar. They also provide opportunities for kino, and if things work out very well, it’s a short drive to my house.

Jan’s a divorced, decent looking petite blonde, early 30’s. She has one son. She’s a veterinarian who has her own private practice. We live in a farming community, so I’d assume she makes pretty good scratch for her age. Jan drinks draft beer and wears jeans and cowboy (cowgirl?) boots.

We had the typical “why did you divorce” first date conversation. Her story was a routine example of hypergamy in action:

She and her ex-husband met through the sport of “cutting”, which is a competition where a rider and horse work to separate a cow from the herd in front a panel of judges. Like any equestrian sport, it’s an expensive hobby. It's pricey to buy and maintain cutting horses, plus transportation to competitions, etc.

The husband, let’s call him Peter (to keep with the Brady Bunch name theme), worked in IT, while she was studying to be a veterinarian. The also had a small farm where they raised cattle. The farm had been in Peter’s family for generations.

Peter was repairing some fencing on the farm where the cattle had been escaping. He was operating a post-hole-digger tractor attachment and got his foot caught in the auger which mangled and nearly amputated his foot. The accident happened in front of their son, which probably saved him from bleeding to death because the son was able to call for help.

The injury required multiple surgeries and extended rehabilitation to save the foot. While he was off work he exhausted his disability coverage and FMLA, and was released from his good-paying job as a network administrator.

They were able to save his foot, and after it had healed enough, he started looking for work but was unable to find any openings locally. He ended up getting a job at an employer who was a few hours away. Rather than relocate his family and remove his wife and son from their schools, friends, etc., he elected to rent a small apartment in the town where his job was, travel there early Monday morning, and return Friday evening after work. Not an ideal setup, but a man does what he has to do to provide for his family.

Meanwhile Jan was left alone during the week, studying to be a veterinarian, and taking care of their son and the cows. Jan became increasingly resentful of this arrangement, picturing her husband enjoying the solitude of his apartment all week, while she was left to take care of everything.

The tipping point came when Peter surprised her with a very nice new dually truck and horse trailer for use at their cutting competitions. He bought the truck and trailer to try to appease her because she was so unhappy with his work travel. The problem was that he had gotten an equity loan against the family farm to fund the vehicle purchase, and to pay off other debts they had incurred after his foot injury. When Jan found out about the loan, she concluded that Peter was “not an asset, but a liability” (she used those exact terms when telling the story).

Further complicating matters, Jan had made a new “best friend” while at school, I’ll call him Greg. While Peter was away at work all week, earning money to support his family and pay for Jan’s education, Jan and Greg (and Jan’s son) were spending more and more time together. Peter wasn’t very happy with this arrangement and grew increasingly irritated and jealous of their friendship. Jan felt Peter was simply being insecure and controlling.

As soon as Jan graduated from veterinary school and got set up with her own practice, she and Peter separated, and she moved into an apartment near her new office. Peter was actually the one who filed for divorce, but it was a last-ditch act of desperation to bring her back (“move back or we’re getting divorced” kind of thing).

Peter had to liquidate the family farm in the divorce. He now lives full time in his little work apartment. Jan got to keep her veterinary practice intact, along with her nice new dually truck (I’ve seen it, it’s a sweet ride). She’s currently building a new house out in the country.

I have to wonder if Peter had just completely lost his foot in that accident, and went right back to work instead of being off for so long to save the foot, would he have kept his job, and therefore his marriage? So he’d only have one foot, but still be married to Jan, instead of having both feet and being divorced. Is a wife worth one foot? (Fuck no!)

Lastly, it seems Jan’s BFF Greg had his fun and moved on. So now Jan is dating online, shopping around for a replacement husband. She’s actually not a bad catch, just don’t get injured or she’ll be gone.

TLDR: Husband got hurt and lost his job. Wife branch swung as soon as her education was completed.


[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED90 points91 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

No single mom is a "nice catch."

Haters, come one, come all.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the Republic of Gilead, single moms are the best catch.

Edit: With that said, The Handmaid's Tale is not nearly so dramatic as Peter's Foot Tale.

Oh, the struggles of being Peter.

If only I had a better foot. If only I had a better foot.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

stop talking about my mom like that

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm still not adopting you, not even if you gift me your SIL.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You could have let me call you dad.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This fake conversation is enough to prove my initial point.

The fact that a man would willingly subject himself to the possible line of questioning, and be a part of a child's incomplete upbringing, shows the possibility of the damage a shitty choice might cause.

I know Bogey was shooting for humor, but the cringeworthy nature of these real circumstances made my skin crawl.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 2 points3 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Fuck ‘em all. Why discriminate?

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Then why are you courting and not closing, faggot?

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 7 points8 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

They simply don’t all put out on the first date, son. It’s a fact. Anyone who claims to get laid on every first date is writing fiction.

If by the third date she’s not dtf then it’s time to move on.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I'm pulling your chain.

Plus, from what I can tell, where you live, the plate pool (due to population) might be a little shallow. If you get a pump and dump reputation, you might poison your entire well.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

an interesting point, and one that that to take into account the "schedule of mating" per Rollo

having this reputation in HS/college is not an all bad thing assuming you pump them well.

having this reputation with post-wall women is going to reduce your pool significantly

the best is part on very good terms, i.e. thread the needle

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

This is true. Also, in a smaller plate pool, excluding single mothers isn't really practical.

All three of my current plates have spawn in tow, and I'm fine with that. I don't plan on marrying any of them.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

agreed. women over 30 without kids is getting into unicorn territory; and quite truthfully should make you go "hmmm"

also, i put single never-married mothers with multiple daddies in a whole different bucket than divorced mothers.

[–]SuperCrazy072 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

women over 30 without kids is getting into unicorn territory

Maybe it's your location and/or occupation, but I live in a big city and know plenty of women over 30 without kids. In fact, its far more common than not for single, career women in their 30's to not have kids (at least the ones I know).

I'm not advocating this for women, I think they'll regret it, but its been my observation.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

your location

i agree. been that way for a long time.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Impossible. Regardless of how old.

The woman must be virtuous. And, of course, a virgin.

... And incapable of any feelings of love, lust, admiration, or anything even remotely positive for any (male) human being other than yourself... her victorious savior and potentially soon-to-be father of her masculine sons and beautiful (yet virtuous) daughters... bountiful gifts to her strong-yet-feminine child-bearing hips.

Her brain should be incapable of thinking that there could be another man on the planet as strong, handsome, powerful, authoritative, and amazing as you.

And of course, she may have no interactions with males of the species ever. Either prior to meeting you, while interacting with you, after you, and even into the great infinite and beyond. Her myriad interactions with male members of her own family, whether brother, uncle, or father, should themselves be questioned, always.

Those women are the only acceptable women.

And they must bow down before you.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is funny. But deep down, it's what too many men expect.

The woman must be virtuous. And, of course, a virgin.

And apparently she need to fuck on the first date. It's a tough combination to find.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

She’s wearing a burka

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't trust burkha women, I have stories from Oman

[–]robertg3321 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t 7 hours still the flimsy rule? Spend 7 hours with her and you should be banging

[–]SteelToeShitKicker13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The tipping point came when Peter surprised her with a very nice new dually truck and horse trailer for use at their cutting competitions. He bought the truck and trailer to try to appease her because she was so unhappy with his work travel. The problem was that he had gotten an equity loan against the family farm to fund the vehicle purchase, and to pay off other debts they had incurred after his foot injury. When Jan found out about the loan, she concluded that Peter was “not an asset, but a liability” (she used those exact terms when telling the story).

Sorry, the guy is a fucking tool. This is a stupid fucking move. If you just incurred a shit ton of debt, you don't go out and mortgage the farm to buy a dually. This is complete trash behavior, the redneck version of someone buying a lifted lincoln with spinners instead of spending that money to get out of the ghetto. If my wife did this, you bet I'd divorce her ass.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a stupid fucking move

Agreed, it was a huge mistake. It was a desperation move on his part that only dug his hole deeper

[–]AechzenMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

...and digging his hole deep is what started this whole mess!

Too soon for augur jokes?

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha excellent!

[–]nopeToThe43rd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I had passed by this, but had to come back to acknowledge that.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

so true and sad that i know guys that have played this exact move, although the dually was for them at least

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Once the foot healed, Peter set himself on fire twice. First the job that changed his marriage into an LTR. Second the truck. Change just one thing......

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Peter set himself on fire twice. First the job that changed his marriage into an LTR. Second the truck

Hopefully there's a lesson there for someone.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of that saying. Never pet a burning dog.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

whaaat? never heard that one. Bogey, has ya been sippin the wild turkey juice?

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I cant remember where I read it, probably one of the thousands of war books I read.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceMRP APPROVED22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Bet the dually cost substantially more than a bag of skittles.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's counter-intuitive how that type of elaborate gift would actually make her lose respect for him, but that's how it works. Skittles would have been the better choice.

[–]weakandsensitive8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody likes the implication they're a whore for everyone. That's why buying love doesn't work. You can buy a lap dance though.

[–]Westernhagen7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If Jan is not paying him alimony and a large amount for child support, he had a shitty lawyer. He could have gotten a good one, and even made her pay for it.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The state we're in doesn't do alimony. As far as child support calculation, she is the custodial parent and has the vast majority of overnight stays, so he would probably owe, her despite her higher income. I didn't ask if either was paying.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Alimony is called "spousal support" today.
It never went away.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless one spouse is incapacitated, the state I'm in does not recognize alimony or spousal support

[–]IRunYourRiver10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"I'm getting close to being done with veterinary school and don't need this man anymore. Too bad about the foot, but that's life".

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Too bad about the foot, but that's life

That statement embodies her natural female solipsistic nature. It's not her fault, it's programmed into her firmware

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is programmed into our nature to fuck women. Somehow, with the help of laws, and the culture, we manage to control it and only fuck women who are willing. I think with the help of laws and culture, women's hypergamty could similarly be controlled- as it was for all of human history until the 1980's.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

From Briffault’s Law: Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

Maybe if Peter had read this he would understand more about the burden of performance: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/99qagg/marriage_counseling/

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I love the guys who "understand" that any woman will just leave and dump you if you lose a foot. I don't understand and I don't accept it. The woman should be stoned until dead at the city gates with the rest of them.

If a man had a wife who lost a foot and missed time at work you can be sure the White Knight pestilence would join the high screeching female chorus of how terrible, awful, and evil the man is for abandoning his woman when she needed him most.

But it's a man who lost his foot. Nobody cares. Fuck him. His fault for losing his foot. His fault for expecting some short term human compassion from his wife. Obviously it is al the man's fault. the special snowflake is an innocent little dearie who held on as long as she could!

Somebody should make a Patreon account and start sending her money.

Also LOVE how she becomes a Veterinarian on his dime, studies in his house. The degree is what we call a "marital asset" and it should be split equally. The woman should pay him half her practice and income basically forever. That is certainly how it would work for a man who worked at home studying to be a doctor while his poor put upon wife sacrificed her foot so he could become a doctor. She would probably get more than half, plus child support, separate maintenance, free health care, and full custody of any children.

Dude needs to get a cutthroat lawyer and go for her assets. Probably won't make a difference but if he is not willing to fight this is what is gets.

[–]red-pill-man4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bah! If she lost a foot we'ed just call her Peg.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Losing his foot is the precipitating incident not the cause of the destruction of his marriage. His wife stayed with him while his foot was injured and healing.
The decisions that cost him his marriage was 1) being too much of a pussy to make his family move with him to his new job, 2) blowing money out the window.

You seem 'stuck' blaming other people for appropriately reacting to stupid decisions.

[–]fuckingoddamnname4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you do marry and expect the bond to be deeper than a series of business transactions, i.e. contains a certain level of friendship, then " in sickness and in health" should be honored. Some kind of loyalty and helping each other when they're down has to be there.

If you think "that's how women are" and awalt etc. And the marriage is more of a business transaction, then there is zero reason to get married ever.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are correct, there is zero reason to get married. Ever.

It is a completely one-sided contract. And the vows you recite at the ceremony are unenforceable and have nothing to do with the litany of obligations to which you are actually agreeing, which are actually contained in state divorce laws.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you understand! Welcome to the real World.

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is a wife worth a foot

A good wife is worth more than rubies, but who can find one? I have searched through the world high and low and found an upright man among a thousand but not an upright woman among any of them.

[–]EveryGodDamnDayGrinding3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see what thou didst there.

[–]weakandsensitive5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Peter should've communicated more with Jan.

She’s actually not a bad catch, just don’t get injured or she’ll be gone.

You really think so?

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Yes, communication is the key, haha!

not a bad catch

She's good looking, educated, has her own business, makes very good money. One could do a lot worse

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

She sounds like a good betabux

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED13 points14 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Dr. Babelove's prototypical Alpha Female.

Transvaluation of male traits to an aging woman to convince me she's worth my time. My dick says I'm not interested.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I'll bet she's a decent lay too

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Great. I'll also explain to our child why his older brother has two dads and looks nothing like us.

I bet Dr. Babelove is a decent lay, but cuddling and talking afterward would be a nightmare.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

what, you don't like girls crying all night?

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"I know you should have gotten that Cialis commercial, and yes you are definitely hot enough to be in that bathtub. Racism, Babe, definitely racism."

Kill me now.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

wait, what now lol!

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dr. Babelove, when not doling out shitty relationship advice trolls for work as a print model and TV commercial actress.

[–]chief-w3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She sees men as an investment. The relationship may be a major goal, and a social status symbol, but it's about the investment. "Not an asset, but a liability" - Jan

[–]grumpieroldman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same the other way around - why would you stay with a woman if doing so meant your life got worse every day from here on out?

[–]2ndalMRP APPROVED4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't blame her. Sounds like Peter was definitely a liability, not an asset. If you're expecting any woman to seep with empathy and mother you back to health with you at your lowest you're in for a rude awakening. Add on some bonehead financial decisions and any woman with a shred of smarts is going to recognize he clearly isn't fit to lead over the long term. Welcome to the real world, Peter.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

As was an equestrian in vet school.

The point wasn't whether he was a liability, but why she considered she wasn't one.

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Horse chicks can be a special kind of crazy. Entitled is only the half of it.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My family as 3 of them, they've trained how best to break stallions since they were 6

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was a jumper as a kid up until early teens. When those girls started to blossom... I was mostly confused.

I discovered cars, money and weed and left it behind.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, blueblood. We all ran 4H in my circles. I moved onto dirtbikes and 1 ton trucks

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She'd have forgiven the financial decision if she wasn't already resentful from the abandonment.

[–]Tebulus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sucks for peter. Think he would have been fucked either way. How quickly do you recover from amputation and getting fit for a prosthetic and learning to use it functionally vs them patching a hole in your foot and letting it heal?

Did you bang jan?

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How quickly do you recover from amputation

I hope I never find out.

Did you bang jan?

Not yet.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought this story would have a heroic twist to it like Titanic.

[–]red-pill-man2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But where's Marcia, Marcia, Marcia?

PS- Horse women be crazy. Anyone knows this.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

“and I always thought Jan was “groovy””

Stopped reading.

Who the fuck picks Jan?

Marcia was hot and DTF.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Marica was way hotter, but she's probably still a virgin. Davey Jones couldn't even hit that. Jan would be way more fun.

It's the same argument and Ginger versus Mary Anne. Mary Anne was cuter, but Ginger would be much more fun.

[–]weakandsensitive19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You guys are old

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm older and I thought they both were dogs.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

this Is true.

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice flair but the irony may be a bit subtle.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not a virgin, Alice’s boyfriend, the meat man, was probably hitting that ass the whole time.

The mom was fucking everyone because the husband was a closet faggot.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Alice’s boyfriend, the meat man, was probably hitting that ass the whole time

That explains why Sam was always smiling

[–]red-pill-man1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sam always brought the salami.

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have nothing against single moms, but this one has a demonstrated low character.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If your wife hurt herself, got better, moved out, then blew a bunch of money you didn't have on shit you didn't want ... you'd be happy?

[–]Redpillbrigade171 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha. Nice story. Thanks for all the details and high quality narration !

[–]drty_prMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you fuck her?

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No I didn't fuck her. I'm not giving up though, she looked pretty good in those jeans.

[–]BlackFire682 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Stories like this make me wonder if we are incompletely applying the concept of capital punishment.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED9 points10 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Why? You're upset that women naturally seek the uncompromised, and that the hindbrain doesn't adhere strictly to vows.

Knowing the nature of a thing doesn't make that thing special or give it any other attributes. Women are women, not black boxes. Input X does not guarantee output Y. This thinking is the genesis of the covert contract.

Hypergamy doesn't give a fuck about your thoughts on loyalty, fidelity, or morals. Women routinely leave men they promised to be devoted to "in sickness and in health." This is why a man needs to be his locus of focus and control.

[–]IRunYourRiver10 points11 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Somewhere on TRP sidebar there's a piece of advice that any vow proclaimed by a woman needs to be understood to have the phrase "right now I feel like...." preceding it. As in "Right now I feel like, until death do us part".

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

True.

The problem with many men who became RP aware after marriage, is that they need to temper the anger phase while living with their source of anger.

"She's not yours, it's just your turn" is a mindset that needs to be adopted, but AWALT also needs to be recognized as a set of tendencies all women are capable of, but not guaranteed to implement.

The main sub is risk adverse. MRP is crisis management.

[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

MRP is crisis management.

Sharpe ratio optimization more than crisis management imo.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Assuming a normal distribution..... Throw in one big outlier and it all falls.

[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Today I had to explain the differences in underlying behavior and aggregation between linear regression models (a_i * x_i) versus stochastic tree models (a_i * f_i(x_i)) to my business leadership. We did it successfully and got on the same page. Was pretty cool and felt pretty good.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you're showing off... :)

Explaining it to normies, wow. You should feel pretty good.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

s that they need to temper the anger phase while living with their source of anger.

More blue-pill thought. If it was her fault you'd feel resentment.
It's anger because you made the mistake, you allowed yourself to be duped and taken advantage of.
You knew the truth going in but ignored it so you're angry at yourself.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was married long before TRP was codified in any way.

I don't advise that men get married. I've managed to turn mine around by discovering and killing my source of resentment.

I became angry at myself after discovering the truth. I don't believe in innate knowledge, so it wasn't possible to "know" of any mistake. Also, you can't resent a woman for being what she is, that is the warning and lesson of AWALT.

[–]BlackFire682 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

agreed... but persons should also be held to their contracts... or don't sign them

BTW, your pragmatic response is well taken and excellent advice.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The world can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

Act accordingly

[–]RedPillCoachMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why? You're upset that women naturally seek the uncompromised, and that the hindbrain doesn't adhere strictly to vows.

Come on! You would be one of the first to call out a guy for cheating. But when women do it we call it biology. Screw that. Women are responsible. The solution to hypergamous whores like this is social isolation, shunning, shaming, and ultimately people clapping with joy when the bodies are found alone, half eaten by cats.

TLDR: Shun hypergamous divorcees and single mums.

[–]tspice1 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Her name is <insert any woman’s name here>

[–]ArdAtak 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd pump and dump her on prinicipal. Make the last act humiliating. Like get off her, put clothes on, and walk out without saying a word. Never call or text again. That would be a minor victory against such an ungrateful biotch.

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep your fanfic to TRP or MGTOW.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Waste of read.

Apparently sidebar not absorbed mentally.

Why equivocate a foot for ass ?

What we don’t see is how Peter went total bitch and lost his job and self respect.

With that, why does Jan stay ?

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't we? I read this as the story of blue pill peter who did what any nice blue pill husband would do, and the natural result of making shitty, supplicating decisions. Nothing novel, but it was a nice easy rebranded reading.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No doubt.

But let’s face it, being injured is one thing, but being so injured we lose a job.

So is this read a truly beneficial to the newbie ?

I don’t think so. If he lost his eyesight in one eye, yes, but to lose a job in IT over a foot injury, is a guy that is beyond blue. He is purple

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This shitty supplicating decision making had nothing to do with the job loss. The job loss is just a red herring.

So is this read a truly beneficial to the newbie ?

Don't know, but it was a cute story. Sometimes all we want is a good story.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously nothing to do with the job loss abt it was a ripe time to dump the fag

What we really don’t discuss is how true this story is repeated over and over thanks to video games, phones and distractions of truly having to make a choice of being a man or mouse

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The ability to parse and extract value is a important skill.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

OP didn't ... he completely missed the point and fucked up on the date even talking about it.
Peter should not moved out of the house.
Peter should not have gotten a mortgage and bought $50k of shit without talking to his wife about it - actually he shouldn't have talk to her about it either. He should have talked to friend who should have told him not to be a moron.
Peter sabotaged his marriage.
OP wasted a date talking about it.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, being footloose had little to do with it.

Peter became unattractive through his actions and thinking, Jan lost the tingles and OP became her orbiter.

[–]grumpieroldman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not OP, "Greg" was the orbiter which gave her the confidence to leave.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off-1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Holy fuck man.

You had a date. And talked about her life and the EX the whole fucking time. Cause you are the second most boring person on the planet. Peter being #1.

I tell women I date I dont care about their baggage first and foremost. I manage mine, they manage theirs. And I always fuck on date one.

Did you fuck this woman or not faggot?

This FR is an example of what NOT to do on a date.

Way to friendzone your ass on date one.

Edit:

Typical first date “why did you divorce convo”

Maybe for faggots like you. I sure as fuck don’t talk about that on date one. I am also balls deep into them by the end of the night as well. You suck at dating. You want to be a white knight to these women or a sperm donor?

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED[S] 15 points16 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

You're correct, she did the full ex-husband puke which is so common on a first date with a recent divorcee. And nope, I didn't get down her pants yet.

And I always fuck on date one

Congrats, that's a very impressive stat, to always fuck on date one. That's an unbelievable success rate. You'll have to share your secret, it's worthy of it's own post for sure.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice agree and amplify.

At least you'll know how to pass Dr. Pol's shit tests.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Common yes.

Why didn’t you simply say “I came here to talk about you and I, not our ex’s”

Why did you let her steer the convo? I have literally smiled, put my hand over their mouth and said that.

Ever single woman I date has pulled that shit. Shut it down immediately. They fucking love it when I do. Immediate kino follows.

If you are interesting why would they dump about their man? Shut it down.

[–]shr3dthegnarbrah7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Seems like he got some great red flags from letting her run her mouth.

[–]Westernhagen4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He knew going into it that she was divorced. He also knew Briffault’s Law and AWALT. Therefore, he didn't need to let her run her mouth at all. He had ALL the information he needed about her already.

/u/red-sfpplus is exactly right. He should have shut that shit down and focused on getting into her pants.

[–]maintaining_frame2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This exactly. Shut it down because it's a waste of time and is a distraction from your game. Briffault's Law and AWALT tell you all you need to know about the female imperative, period. Well stated, Westernhagen.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

If OP is looking for a relationship sure.

Getting is dick wet? No.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Fucking focused on the prize

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Thanks

Fuck all the downvotes. Why am I the only one in this forum with the balls to call out OP on the fact he:

Didn’t follow Rule 0 on his date.

Did nothing interesting on his date.

Talks nothing of his kino, or anything he did on this date.

Didn’t close on his date.

Was an emotional tampon for his date.

All this is a FR and confirmation bias on Hypergamy for women. Big fucking deal.

No notes being exchanged on how to get in her tight jeans or have her ride OP and not the horse.

Nothing.

[–]weakandsensitive8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why am I the only one in this forum with the balls to call out

Personally - I don't care if OP fucked or not. I liked the story. My favorite character was Peter.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sorry. I didn’t realize we were in /nosleep

[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

But to your point - we all know exactly who's downvoting you.

[–]SBIIISAHDs are the epitome of sex-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only foot he should've been talking about was the foot of cock she was going to get.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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