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[FR] The things you see once your eyes are open (self.marriedredpill)

submitted by Cloudsurf89

Not really anything ground breaking - just my observation of friends at a gathering last night.

A bit about me: A few months into my journey - currently reading Saving a low sex marriage and NMMNG and generally eating my way through the side bar and trying my best to internalise. I need to continue lifting, STFU more, own my shit more and am finding it tough 'finding my mission' which I suppose is my current mission. Anyway...

The party. Headed to a party last night with my LTR and was amusing myself chatting away with some old friends and mingling with some new guys - it was a good night. New guy Louis that I met who was there with his HB6 LTR of 10 years Kelly (28F, pretty but on the larger side of curvy). He's tall and packing some muscle but fairly out shape with a decent gut having formed.

The witnessed interaction. L is Louis, K is Kelly, F1-3 are female friends in the group of couples.

  • L: We saw a guy early who was massively out of shape didn't we babe
  • K: Ah yeah, huge wasn't he
  • L: Yeah, that's me in 5 years eh?
  • K: ...
  • L: That'll be me won't it? [Looks to her then around group with smug grin]
  • K: [Not looking at him]
  • L: You listening babe?
  • K: Sorry, I didn't hear you [Looking clearly unimpressed]
  • L: I said that'll be me all out of shape in 5 years and you with me [Some laughter, smug smile from him - I'm cringing inside]
  • K: Ah yeah

K looks down and initially avoids eye contact with F1. Glances at F2 who gives supportive half smile. F3 catches F1's eye and raises eye brows and smirks - F1 raises eyebrows and gives a shrug. All of this happened within 20-30 seconds.

This has played on my mind all day - nothing new if you've read the sidebar etc but a few things I've interpreted / taken from it:

  • Don't self depreciate - especially to show yourself as low value in front of your partner and others.
  • Remember, she will ditch your ass if you keep on showing yourself as low value.
  • YOU DON'T OWN HER - SHE IS NOT OBLIGATED TO STAY WITH YOU.
  • Is this 'point scoring' that he was attempting? Was he trying to brag that he could be unattractive and 'keep' her?
  • Her girl friends don't owe you shit and they don't have your back. They first look out for themselves, then their girlfriends if it's beneficial to them and then they will be friendly with you as a low priority.
  • Don't be Louis.

Edit to format - written on phone


[–]man_in_the_worldMRP APPROVED41 points42 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is this 'point scoring' that he was attempting? Was he trying to brag that he could be unattractive and 'keep' her?

He was covertly asking for reassurance that she would stay with him even if he dropped to that level. Standard beta move.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yep, classic bad plan prep.

This is a theory I have been playign around with for a little while, people will announce their super bad plans (much in the same way this man did) too see how peopel react when they know they need to put in the hard work to avoid the crappy scenario they just outlined...

Its like a beta male shit test (THIS IS JUST A THEORY)

[–]Cloudsurf89[S,🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That seems obvious now you've pointed it out. Is doing it front of friends a covert way of having witnesses to her assurance?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

all i know is that three people in this thread spelled self-deprecate wrong in the exact same way

[–]Cloudsurf89[S,🍰] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

http://grammarist.com/usage/deprecate-depreciate/

Feel free to go fuck yourself, mate 👍

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Self-depreciating would carry roughly the same meaning, but it is likely to be considered a misspelling because self-deprecating is by far the more common form."

i'll stand by my disapproval, but that is mildly interesting, yes. touche

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dont try to rationalise your way out, you are only making yourself look like more of a fool. Just say my bad and move on.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Our love will survive morbid obesity. Right babe? Babe?"

[–]JDRoedellMRP APPROVED6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny thing (or scary/sad) is that women actually expect the reverse of this. That they can get fat and still pull men and/or their husband should have to be ok with it.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Especially if you "helped ruin" her body by having kids. Ignore the inability to put down the fork and the omnipresent pound bag of gummy bears in the nightstand next to the phone charger.

[–]cjandstuff6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have "aunts" like this. (Friends of the family really.) Over 300 lbs, hit the wall a decade ago. They've repeatedly turned down very good, and occasionally very wealthy men, because they expect Adonis to show up and sweep them off their bariatric chair.

[–]mtwinemn6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Like you I’ve only been on this for just over a month. It’s incredible what you notice once your viewpoint changes. Movies, music, dumbshit your neighbors say.

[–]SBIIISAHDs are the epitome of sex11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I was in a playground last weekend with the kids. There was another Dad there with his young girl - she was about 6 (same age as my girl). The dad was pushing her on the swing. I started to take note of what he was saying when I heard him come out with lines like

"I'll push you and if you get a little bit scared, let daddy know and he'll go a bit slower - OK, princess?"

When I put my kids on the swings, I push them until they scream. Surely the whole point of a kid asking their dad push you is bacause you know he'll to take it to the limit, otherwise they would just swing themselves.

Anyhow, I was lying on a bench, enjoying the sun but this made me look up. The kid was dressed up in a dress you'd put a doll in. The dad, who was following her around, pandering to her was overweight and dressed like a mom would dress a 10 year old boy. The fucker was wearing a polo shirt and chino shorts with knee high white socks. With sandals.

Fuck me.

He kept this shit show going for about half an hour. Following the kid around, calling her princess and telling her to "be careful not to get her dress dirty" because "mammy won't like it".

Then his phone rang. His missus on the line. "OK, princess, we have to go now" he says to the kid - "Mammy says we have to go for dinner now". The kid looks at him and says "But we already had dinner - I'm not hungry". The dad looks at her and says "that was just coffee... coffee and a cake. We won't tell Mammy about that".

The things you see once your eyes are open, indeed.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMRP MODERATOR6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm cringing just reading this.

[–]Cloudsurf89[S,🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ha! Same

[–]hibernatingphoenix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Makes me wonder what dumb shit I'm still saying and doing

[–]jcrpta2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t even need to do that.

Depending on your age and the women you know, you can practically write up a list of women you know and predict how their sex life goes with 80+% accuracy.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It makes you wonder what is the source of complacency. Is it all those years of beta-tude? The feminist conspiracy? Lack of mission? It's a interesting question.

[–]simbarlionMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In my parts there is a 'race to the bottom' attitude from a certain type of beta. I think there is actually more validation sought from the self depreciating ' humour' than the whole thing with his girl.

If you feel pretty shitty about yourself, at least you can make everyone laugh. Bit like how fat chicks are always the most audacious.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It sounds simply socially retarded. There is a technique that mystery and friends went over in YouTube videos where they say displaying low value is a way to show OI but I'd say to use it in a strategic way with women of lower SMV. and in this case he did neither.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockPlaying the lead roll0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Once you see the matrix, you can’t unsee it.

“Don't self depreciate”

Yep- I used to be a pansy ass faggot with this one. Really bad. No fucking way now.

Never purposely lower your value. It’s not cute, it’s not being nice, it’s not humble. It’s a pussy drier. Women always want the next best thing. Anything less is meaningless to her.

The delta of value is what creates attraction.

A = (value 1 - value 2)

Over the top & unrealistic confidence.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The switch from self-deprecation to irrational confidence in groups has made a tremendous difference for me.

[–]Truthhurtsvotemedown0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The irrational will turn to rational after enough practice and work

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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