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https://www.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/6u7dhp/why_ask/

I thought this was supposed to be a place for camaraderie and to learn more about being a man from other men who walked the path further than you have. I've tried to be active here and on MRP, reading sidebar material, lifting, etc. Had a main event with the wife three weeks into the journey, ask for help and perspective and get crucified, shamed, and treated worse than I have ever been treated in my life in any realm online or IRL. I will continue to study and improve on my own, but if this is your idea of "helping" guys get out of betadom by chastising the shit out of them for BEING FUCKING BETA and asking for HELP...no thanks. I asked for encouragement and help because I don't know what I'm doing and you supposedly do and your responses were so full of hatred and anger that it made me feel physically ill. Why "askMRP" if that's what you get? You all keep telling me to STFU and that it means keeping your mouth shut and weighing your words very carefully. Maybe you all should try practicing that a bit more before posting anymore "advice". And I don't care if this is a DEER post. I'm my own judge, right? Eat a dick.

Read that. Pretend you're a woman. And ask yourself - does this make you wet and horny? Is this the guy you want to fuck and please? How much worse do you think this victim is in real life?

The lesson here - recognize your own unattractiveness. Don't be blind to how unattractive you are. Then fix it. Or cry more - whatever.

To me - this is probably the most perfect example of unattractive behavior I have seen on these subs in a long time.

Rule 1 is covered by the things you do. Rule 2 is covered by the things you don't do. Both rules matter.


[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

treated worse than I have ever been treated in my life in any realm online or IRL

true I am sure for floppy; and a major problem with "society" today. for some steel is forged under the pressure of immense heat and the hammer.

I have definitely been treated worse IRL by other compared to this place. This place ain't shit. LOL

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Might've heard "iron sharpens iron" here once or twice.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

yep, and given that "a dog is a man's best friend" abusing your dog is kinda the third rail around here

[–]hystericalbonding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No moralizing or tone policing, except when it comes to dogs, or women cheating and abandoning their children.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

The guy who told me to get rid of my dog deserves a special place in hell.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I would make it my mission to put someone on a worldstarhiphop video if they ever touch my guys.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn right.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I remember that, that third rail hurts.

[–]hystericalbonding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

treated worse than I have ever been treated in my life in any realm online or IRL

true I am sure for floppy; and a major problem with "society" today. for some steel is forged under the pressure of immense heat and the hammer.

It was just a manipulative statement - a counterattack meant to guilt us into being nicer. He's faced plenty of adversity, similar to all the other Nice Guys. They become that way for reasons.

Defeatist thinking and victim mentality make the difference between guys who make it and guys who don't. Compare floppylobster to this guy, and you'll see the difference.

/u/floppylobsterMRP's at the critical point where he has to decide if he's going to tackle his codependency or fall back on his old coping mechanisms. I think he'll fall in the right side, but it's going to be a mess for the first few months. Remember the Litz, ex_addict_bro, and all the other trash fires that transformed themselves? That's why there's a forum, and not just a sidebar.

It's nothing new. The mods deleted posts like these all the time, because they're tired of seeing it and it lowers the signal to noise ratio. I like the occasional "what not to do" posts just as much as the success stories for newbies, but that's just me.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How much worse do you think this victim is in real life?

You mean his wife? She sounds like the victim not him.

This is the prototype example of how we get into trouble. You don't get into trouble because of what you know. And you don't get into trouble for what you don't know. You get into trouble cuz of what you know that just aint so.

responses were so full of hatred and anger that it made me feel physically ill.

Can you imagine how badly this guys gets destroyed by common shit tests when it actually matters. These are anonymous guys on the internet for fucks sake!

Also if he thinks we "hate" he should try being a mod of a Red Pill forum for 24 hours. We "hate" with love and direction. They flail around emotionally and lash out like this guy. Interesting.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

You can apply the same line of thinking to other people in your life. Spend a few weeks on the road with some real beta guys and you can get to know how their wives feel. Indecision, Hesitation, and Lack of preference and majorly unattractive to other men as well.

[–]donedreadpirateMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Truth. I play music with a guy right now who agrees with everyone 100% of the time which is impossible and so obviously fake that I resent him because I have no idea where he stands. Won't last long.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Not only that, he is being dishonest with his band mates. That never makes for a good relationship. He is probably also the same guy that thinks the people who do make decisions are being jerks and bossy. We can only play the where is breakfast, lunch, and dinner game so many times before I will start mirroring their actions back to them. Watch as they become uncomfortable and squirm. Then if they can't make a decision you announce you probably can just skip the meal as you aren't that hungry. Really gets to some people.

[–]weakandsensitive[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

mirroring as leadership - really interesting concept. ta.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You should check into mirroring as a way to develop rapport with someone. Leadership isn't all about being awesome and expecting people to follow. That can build resentment over the smallest things. Leadership can also be about making connections and motivating people.

[–]weakandsensitive[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I get mirror as rapport building - same with eliciting value, etc.

What was novel was using mirrorring as a way to subtly reflect negative/undesirable behavior. Makes sense.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A slap in the face is better, ala private pyle and his left vs right. Can't do that in the real world.

[–]SgtSilverBack1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Were you born a fat, slimy, scumbag puke pieca' shit Private Pyle, or did you have to work on it? 

Fucking love that movie

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahah you know my favorite line. Steers and queers.

[–]donedreadpirateMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah he probably is. Never thought of mirroring it... I am the leader so I bring most of the ideas but look to the other talented guys to add their flavor and criticism. Will have to think on this. Maybe I can get him to start being more honest with some maneuvering.

[–]SteelToeShitKicker3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did no one tell floppylobster about hugs and cuddles Tuesdays?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

A hug and cuddle from u/weakandsnsitive would be like a cellmate who cuddles his weaker cellmate before brutally raping him

[–]SteelToeShitKicker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shh, don't tell the noobs about ass-rape Wednesdays.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of Jerry from Rick and Morty. His wife says to him:

  • "Remember the time someone called you a dumbass on Facebook so you responded, No you're the dumbass!! Then you sat at the computer all night hitting refresh every two seconds and then went to bed crying."

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why step one is

Drop your fucking EGO.

You're here for a reason.

That reason is that there's something fucked up about your life.

Guess what? That's on you. You are doing something that got you here. It's all your fault.

To be able to admit that to yourself is a big jump. After all you've spent years with that little ego-protection hamster running at full speed. "Waaa. My wife won't fuck me! My life sucks! - it can't be me. It must be something else!"

Nope. It's you. You created it, you're living it, and chances are you're not changing anything to get out of the situation you're in.

What did Einstein say again...

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."

The reason we use plain language is twofold.

1 - You've been doing it wrong for years. Often people need to get a baseball bat in the teeth to "wake up" and realize their life truly is shitty. Your wife won't call you a pussy, even if yours is bigger and hairier than hers. Guys in this locker room who care about you will.

2 - A litmus test. If you continue to get butthurt, DEER all over the page, or adopt a holier-than-thou attitude when some guys on an anonomous forum hurt your sensitive little feelings, then you probably haven't/can't drop the one thing that got you in the shitty life in the first place.... Your EGO.

The way a jerkoff responds to me calling him a faggot tell me a lot about whether he's a lost cause or worth trying to help.

[–]tacko2764 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We don't come here to kiss each others asses. We come here for hard truth. It's like when your big brother has to beat the shit out of you a little bit for being stupid. He does it because he gives a shit. The truth hurts and you need be ok with that before you can start growing

[–]donedreadpirateMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just OD'd on feelz

[–]RPJMRP3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't tell me what to do

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cactus Fucker.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had such high hopes for the lad, he had a nice writing style on his OYS, a Cunning linguist that turned into a dick eater.

[–]thunderbeyond1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I thought he would have done better too. There was some hope for the poor cunt. Bet he comes back, after having a cry, with a new user name.

And a freshly torn asshole.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is good if he comes back under a different username if he learned a lesson in the process. He has a reactive frame and did not see an ass tearing coming, and reacted the way he did.

[–]bigOlBeta0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love getting crucified because 80% of what's said is true or somewhat accurate, and the other 20% is just funny

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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