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When my daughter was 4, I bought her a bike with training wheels on it. Red pill subs are a lot like the training wheels on my daughter's bike, they are basically a set of acronyms to help hopeless betas to learn to think, act and walk like a man. We use acronyms like training wheels, wooden swords and floaties so that you can change your weak, feminine and pathetic behaviours into stronger, masculine, dominant behaviours. Acronyms like AF:BB, OI, AWALT, A&A, STFU, CC, AMOG, SJW, MRA, MGTOW, GLO, IDGAF, SL 5x5, SMV, HB are basically cheat codes/ basics about gender dynamics to allow betas to begin learning how not to be totally retarded bitches that women rightfully consider repulsive. They are largely a legacy of the PUA movement from which TRP grew. These acronyms and rules have been codified so that our members can learn to get laid, spin plates, or get their cunt of a wife to fuck them.

Red pill subs (among other things) are a school where you can learn to be more alpha. Just like learning the alphabet and the times tables, we keep it basic. The fundamentals are all there on the sidebar. We have posts by vanguards, mods, approved, senior and endorsed contributors which deal out wisdom from the full spectrum of basic ideas, right up to extremely advanced posts such as the outstanding post on how to manage your bitches by u/humansockpuppet (most of you need not even read that post because you are not managing one bitch, let alone several). You will not get anything out of the advanced posts until you master the basics. You will certainly get fuck all (except hopefully a long ass ban) out of arguing with Endorsed contributors or other members until you master these concepts. It is important to remember that the basic teachings really are like training wheels. Do not try and apply these things like they are absolute truths, they are teaching devices and they are there so that you can discard them one day. After all how important is AF:BB to you if you are in excellent shape and getting laid whenever you want? Why would anyone need to act as if they have "abundance mentality" when they have genuine abundance? Why do you need to learn game if you get approached a lot and your online dating inbox is full of messages from hotties?

What you want is to be able to forget all of these baby steps and be able to act like a man naturally, without having to remember acronyms, maintaining eye contact and the best ways to deal with shit tests. Your goal is to be able to forget the rules, not commit them to memory and think about them day and night. You get to take off your training wheels when you can ride well and then hopefully go on to win a race against your peers. Best way to get there is to practice. Don't talk about what your goals are, take steps to achieve your goals. Don't read too much about how to approach, get out there and approach. Stop overthinking red pill concepts and treating them like a religion, it is training wheels for hapless betas, not a dogmatic code to engage in keyboard warrior style battles. So for those of you that want to get upvotes, or get endorsed, or get favourable comments from members - how about you remember the real goal of red pill awareness. That is to see things as they are, act like a man, live a happy life, achieve your mission, and get laid on the regular - in other words TO TAKE OFF THE TRAINING WHEELS. Any other goals are just masturbation.


[–]thunderbeyond 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Best way to get there is to practise."

You're right. I'm still unplugging and there are times when I think "OK this week let's try out some A&A." But if thats all I do I'm going to sound like a tard. Likewise if I spend a while week STFU I just look like a mute-tard.

Well, yeah I need training wheels now. But the more I practise, the more these methods become natural. Acta.

Your post is good. It reinforces to me the fact that the goal isn't to be a walking, talking acronym man. Its to be a man that harpiebitch bullets bounce off while I calmy achieve my goals.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

STFU isnt about you becoming a mute. Its about you not DEERing. If all you can do when you open your mouth is spew out verbal diarrhea, then yes, keep it closed until you learn how to open effectively.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am glad you get it, no-one in TRP has been able to sum up the message this well. If you were in TRP I would pin a shiny point on you

[–]Alpha_Engineer99 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great analogy because the rider is only supposed to use them until they have developed a usable sense of balance on the bicycle. Raising them higher as the child's skill increases.

Training wheels that are installed too high and tight (like rigid RED PILL concepts) can become an obstacle to learning if they are adjusted incorrectly, because they prevent the bike from leaning (you need to get out there and FEEL the natural ebb and flow, the ups & downs, back & forth, good responses & rejections, “stop overthinking all the rules and acronyms, get out there and approach”)

At one point, you internalize the material & acronyms and develop your own usable sense (feel) for acting like a man.

[–]whitesocks2000 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I taught my kids to ride by taking off the pedals, lowering the seat and in about 15 min I had all 3 kids by about 4 yrs old riding a 2 wheeler. Great dad activity, use tools to remove pedals, they love it. I realize you are being metaphorical. But don't use those training wheels, too many falls on the turns. Now I am being metaphorical.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick." -- Bruce Lee

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

  • "I do not hit, it hits all by itself"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

pretty much "it just happened"

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (43 children) | Copy Link

This is the big battle in TRP at the moment. The aspie noobs think an endorsed badge is like a target for big game, if they insult/argue with us they get a computer hard on. What they fail to understand is that none of us asked for the flair, it was pinned on us because we know our shit and to show them who to listen to.

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[–]RuleZeroDAD 7 points8 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

LBG = Little Brown Guys. Funniest shit I've read on the TRP sub.

And you are right, the MGTOW guys are the neckbeards who are generally angry that nobody likes them. Not men, women, employers, parents, or teachers. No one. Maybe they need to examine why they can't "person" before they try to tell others to follow them into the collective basement of purchased sex, individual indoor pursuits, and Cheetos.

As for the post, I strive to discuss all RP concepts in plain language, because people don't live in locker rooms, all aren't military (inundated with and conditioned to use acronyms), and OP is correct about "just getting it."

The terminology as a reference and learning tool for the uninitiated is useful. It also puts the lurker or tourist on the defensive, because they can't immediately participate meaningfully without asking telling questions (Wut DEER mean?) and it also is a tell if the reading is being done, as the term usually comes from a primary source.

Every 6 months or so, the senior guys discuss the "mainstreaming" of the concepts by adjusting the language in posting to reflect a plainer description of the concepts to the public. This is how I often Red Knight women, as I describe what they want out of a man and a relationship with terms that are socially acceptable, as opposed to jumping up on a table and screaming AWALT when they talk about not being able to find "nice guys" with whom to settle.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I do the same thing when redknighting. I don't tell wimmin they are manipulative gaslighters, I say that when a woman chooses to fuck with a guy on an emotional level, she has the same advantage as if a guy gets physical. I have never had a woman disagree with me when I say, I think women have been thrown under the bus by feminism, they are expected to do all the same work yet treat an underachieving man as an equal. The secret is to conceal the red pill truth as a compliment.

[–]RuleZeroDAD 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I tell them that they would prefer an "honest" man who will tell them what his expectations and boundaries are, as opposed to a "nice" man who seethes with resentment when he tells you what you want to hear and expects you to read his mind in return.

Every woman with whom I've ever discussed the concepts has ALWAYS admitted at the end that she would love to cede some (or in more than one case ALL) control to a capable man. One of them surprisingly (or not), said that she would cede all control to me if I wanted. I'll keep it in mind.

[–]Chinchilla_the_Hun 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

a "nice" man who seethes with resentment when he tells you what you want to hear and expects you to read his mind in return.

IOW, a woman

Every woman with whom I've ever discussed the concepts has ALWAYS admitted at the end that she would love to cede some (or in more than one case ALL) control to a capable man.

Women want men to be men so they can be women...huh, who'd have thought!?

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[–]anythinginc 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's amazing how if, you remove the branding and lingo, how palatable this whole thing is.

Agreed. The issue is there are a lot of bitter (divorced/virgin/incel/dumped/badluck) people who can't talk/discuss this shit without letting their bitterness come through, so it sounds like they hate women or look down on them (excluding dyed-in-the-wool misogynists.)

No bro, I love and appreciate women, the world would suck without them. They are just another sex, and we're trying to teach you about them so you can appreciate them.

Hopefully these mass bans and "this guy doesn't fuck" help that.

[–]drty_pr 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They are just another sex, and we're trying to teach you about them so you can appreciate them.

This is where the crux of RP hatred resides. A lot of women, and men, like to think there's no difference between the genders. RP not only assures men there is, but shows men how to use these differences to their advantage. Apposed to allowing her to use the difference for hers.

There was a comment a while back where a contributor said he showed his sister RP. Her words were "This isn't fair. You guys aren't supposed to know this stuff". That was defining moment in my journey.

[–]anythinginc 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

no difference...but there is

Right, and bitter people think those difference make women less than, when different is good!

The most basic case, incels/foreveralones/young virgins have never had access to a vagina, so they hate vaginas, and make comments that basically degrade women for having one. No bro, women=good, vagina=good. Different, but good.

Central to the pushback from women on "equality" is the notion that if men and women are "different," then they can't be "equal."

And to be fair, women are used to bitter men lording what makes men "different" from women, also makes them "better" than women. Which is obviously false, and deserves some pushback...but now both sides have gotten the discourse to a point where we can't be "different" because then we can't be "equal" and that is "bad."

Obviously there are overlaps in these differences and capabilities, and a lot of similarities, and a lot of nuance in the subject, but we can't even acknowledge that because we are stuck with "SAME!"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW are the guys who commit social suicide and have given up on living the game by any rules. The see it as rigged against them and dont want to have any part of it.

[–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW guys

I think there is a large and unfortunate overlap between MGTOW guys and Incels, especially in the '2nd wave MGTOW stoney describes.

[–]Persaeus 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Incels

these guys make me lmfao with the looks > personality thing. so many more things go into a man's SMV. i do not know a single engineer that is incel in his late 20's; and a lot of these guys got zero looks/game. if you make bank; some bitch will want to suckle. as far as i can tell Incels is proof that evolution is working.

[–]drty_pr 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of it boils down to guys shooting too high. There are a lot of ugly fuckin people. Both male and female. If you look like Steve Buscemi short obese twin brother, a below average girl isn't going to give you the time of day. You need to be chasing the ugliest chicks around; because you're fuckin ugly.

[–]Persaeus 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So much truth to this; especially when your starting. There was a post on the main sub last year about a guy getting divorced. First thing he did was go fuck some fugly hoes; but he worked his way up to some quality women as he upped his game.

I've plowed a few sows and there wasn't any shame in my game.

As always the key is stop talking/thinking and just fucking do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

overlap between MGTOW guys and Incels

Not just overlap, I just can't tell them apart most the time. Same views, same words, same net results.

[–]Persaeus 3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

i have known a few old school MGTOW guy. the ones i respect are all 40+, been married and are just "over" women. they're into their life which seems to center around fishing, hunting, Harley's, and their kids. thing is . . . they still fuck some bar slut once in awhile.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Of course, older guys are just a little different. I am certain. :)

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snowflake

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

No, less caring, like down on the autistic scale of near zero emo.(at times)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

so they are taking their toys and heading home.

they never left. They just heard about how its hard out there.

[–]anythinginc 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

2nd wave MGTOW

I spent some time back in the hood this week and that was a surprise to me. So many asktrp posters and trp commentators have some mgtow in their history (though one can hardly call yesterday "history").

I was also surprised when TRP had to issue the "doesn't fuck rule." God, to be 18 again and have the ignorance to theorycraft sexual dynamics with barely a gf to your name. I remember being 9ish and wondering which hole to stick it in, and reasoning that it must be the reciprocal of my penis, the vagina, advanced discourse.

At least here we are dealing with grown men who got fucked and got married/LTRed. There is a woman involved who has a key to your house and usually defaults to sleeping in the same bed as you.

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[–]anythinginc 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

I can't decide it that was supposed to mean I'm less or more amusing than a mgtow. My vanity obviously says more, but my reading comprehension says less. Regardless, I'm happy to be in your feed and I feel pretty good about myself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

why you go there tho?

[–]anythinginc 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

A) It is a sub that centers around the exact same stuff we do, the same posts sometimes, so it is essentially a sub about what I'm interested it or at least tangential to it.

B) The satirical tone and mockery is lighthearted catharsis compared to the often serious attitude here at askMRP/MPR. After all, we're building men, marriages are at stake. Rarely do I feel like I can make a quick, easy, flippant comment. Usually it takes empathy, history research, and mental effort. So to be able to make a quick easy comment, basically an inside joke to me, without anyone's life/marriage at stake, or potentially causing harm, is nice.

C) I try to humanize MRPers and our struggle.

D) We pick a guy apart, but TBP destroys him, and sometimes one of them might do it well, might have an insight versus just a jest, and when that happens I want to read it. A long comment with quotes and paragraphs about something I just commented on? Yeah I want to read that. Maybe there is a flip side, maybe I missed something.

E) It helps me to think about making a comment in relation to their user base. Kinda like what Stoney mentioned about branding and lingo. If I can talk about the same stuff here AND there, I think that has potential to make me a better commentator.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Maybe there is a flip side,

to them, the flip side is always "its his fault because he is an idiot"

not much different than here . I guess.

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[–]straius 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Funniest thing is I don't see flair on alien blue nor was I seeing flair in a browser with RES, and then I started arguing with you and another mod the first time I commented and got banned. Lol

Pretty sure I still am so you probably won't even see this.

So stupid on my part.

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[–]straius 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Odd, i must have been unbanned, but didn't see a notification.

Yeah, that was my mistake. Didn't read sidebar rules, never contributed to subs with stricter rules and treated like it was r/politics or something. Foolish mistake on my part.

I'm all sidebar'd up since then.

edit - (And calmed the fuck down)

[–]thatboyjeff 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly, I've never ran across something with so many fucking acronyms. Just when I think I know them all, someone writes some new shit I've never seen.

Luckily, I haven't had to live/die by these rules, I just naturally abide by them more than I used to. That's just repetition and practice.l and this sub being fucking awesome.

Anyway..

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy doesn't work.

[–]JDRoedell 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Training wheels for the bike that our culture likes to hide from men.

[–]BluepillProfessor 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is the thing a lot of us EC guys forget. Our culture HIDES this from men. EVERYTHING you read in the popular media is the message of female empowerment and male shitlordery. You cannot escape the constant message. If you are sitting at the doctor's office every single magazine will have the same feminist trope.

We are safe and clean on The Red Pill but we forget that only a minority of men have been exposed to the Red Pill.

[–]RuleZeroDAD 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Or...Some of us enjoy the decline, and have stopped evangelizing.

I was on the same stage as Paul Elam and others during the "meaner" days of the Promise Keeper movement, which became the PC MRA horseshit it is today. Those who initially wanted to inform the public about misandry and mistreatment of men and boys in education and relationships were actively shunned by a movement that has now cooped the "Red Pill" via a shitty movie and placating impressionable bitches.

If Sargon had any game, he would have fucked Laci Green instead of apologizing to her.

You can't expose men to the Red Pill when other manginas are constantly trying to change RP's PUA roots to a trendy "woke" meme.

[–]straius 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh Sargon... I used to love that guy and then he just became seething bitterness and anger and I unsubbed once it became a bunch of airing of grievances and stupid youtuber drama nobody cares about.

Regarding boys in education, I enjoyed the book "Boys Adrift" on that subject.

[–]DanG3 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

AKA, "Fake News™."

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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