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This probably better suited for the main Reddit, but that place is filled with children.....

http://nypost.com/2017/04/02/these-sex-addicts-cant-stop-swiping-right-on-tinder/

Some Excerpts:

“I’m super boy crazy, so it wasn’t surprising I got obsessed with Tinder really fast,” said Cindy, who spoke on the condition her real name not be used. “I get off on the high of matching with someone, meeting them and sleeping with them.”

“It’s really the crack of our time. It’s an instant way of feeling better and it’s just a click away,” said Puja Hall, a psychotherapist and director of the New York Center for Sexuality and Sex Addiction Treatment.

The shapely pink-haired pixie’s phone began to blow up with 50 messages a day. “It was thrilling to have a ton of people at my fingertips,” she said. Before long, she was “swiping right” on 150 men a day and meeting men several times a week.

Now, after less than a year on Tinder, she has at least 25 notches on her belt

Sounds so Liberating for women, right! But then some RP Truth:

“We wind up having these sexual engagements that are fundamentally live pornography, where the person is basically masturbating with someone else’s body parts,” said Paul Kelly, a psychotherapist and sex-addiction therapist. “Having that kind of turnstile approach to relationships really wears down the idea of actually building long-lasting ones.”

And then Man Blaming :

In the past, Tinder has been criticized for making sex too easily available and encouraging the commodification of bodies — especially women’s — rather than facilitating real connections.

Some believe “the extreme casualness of sex in the age of Tinder leaves many women feeling devalued,”

“It’s rare for a woman of our generation to meet a man who treats her like a priority instead of an option,”

“My piece was not only about Tinder, but about misogyny in the emerging dating-app culture,” she tells The Post.

Then Tinder Blaming :

“Do they really want you to find true love on a dating app? Or do they want you to just keep swiping and using their product?”

Lastly, some classic hamstering:

“I really haven’t been on Tinder much these days,” she proudly declares, as several Tinder messages ping her phone. “Ignore that,” she snaps. “They don’t count.

Lessons Learned: Be careful who you LTR.


[–]ReddJiveMRP APPROVED18 points19 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I had taken command of my third company. Rare, but I held three commands as a captain. Just right place right time....maybe a bit of my track record as well.

This third company was a bit of a problem within the brigade. It has a high court martial rate, solders failing PT tests....yah. Bad news from the start. The Sergeant Major has just fired the First Sergeant, in fact the only leadership that remained were a couple of the lieutenants and the platoon sergeants, junior NCOs.

Not much to work with.

my boss expected me to clean house. Just go in and scorch earth the place. My new first sergeant was top notch. We talked first before we even set foot in the place. We went over all the personal records, files, and anything else we could get our hands on.

After talking we decided that what they needed were good leaders. Ones that cared about the mission, about the training, and about the company's purpose. And about the soldiers themselves.

Instead of cleaning house we set the standard. It was high, tough, and demanding. But in 6 months time we had every one in shape, passing the army tests. We didn't just throw them out, sure there were some bad apples in there. Couple had to go, but by and large everyone of them toed the line.

The past didn't matter any more. we had formed a great team. When I left that command after 18 months it was a well oiled machine. Several of the NCOs were promoted on. The company had a 95% Re-enlistment rate.

Leadership, when done properly, can be a powerful tool. The key is to be able to develop a style that can adapt to every situation and not try to force the situation to adapt to you. So, yes we know women's behavior, but how does repeating sightings of it, confirming that it is there helpful?

it isn't. What is helpful is learning to manage it and progress. far too many men are angry at these traits and hamster that is really isn't there fault. AWALT after all. They blame feminism and every thing else for the woes they suffered. When really they should acknowledge these traits and lead regardless.

I forget who said it. /u/archwinger maybe? /u/sorcererking ?

But the gist was that we did not create these times, this age of feminism. Yet we have to live in it, learn, grow, and overcome regardless. But it isn't all doom and gloom. This is a great time to be a man. The world is ours and the veil has been lifted.

[–]analyticaltoafault3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are 100% right and I relate a lot of the leadership (or lack thereof) I see in TRP through my experience in the military as well.

Sure, we can count the hypocritical statements, rationalizations, shunting of personal responsibility, but that is self serving. One thing the article correctly gets at (but doesn't enforce strongly enough IMO), is that these women are lost in addiction. They don't have leaders via individuals, parents, friends, and other successful couples to act as role models and give them training wheels while they learn how to truly enjoy life without it being an addiction in one way or the other and you can't expect them to grow without it being given to them in a well structured environment encouraging personal growth along with support and discipline.

These moments truly are the chances we have to shine as men and lead people out of this unhealthy way of life while enjoying what we can with those unwilling to grow while we build bigger and bigger teams of successful healthy people.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You want us to man up and marry the sluts?

[–]ReddJiveMRP APPROVED6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You want us to man up and marry the sluts?

FIFY

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is this downvoted?

Unless someone voting has knowledge of the article to which Mr. P. is referring, STFU. He's asked a legitimate question about what a man should accept from a potential mate, and that men, military or not, may have concerns about being shamed into behavior antithetical to Rule Zero.

Just like "you do you," "man up" has an RP connotation, that isn't in line with conventional parlance.

I'm hungry and in a shitty mood, so Dad might be handing out spankings today, or calling the wife up for an afternoon decompression.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

May have been an old poster I dug up from 4 years ago, cucoo09

[–]ReddJiveMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. I know and have known plenty of women that intentionally went out, dressed to kill, just to fuck with men. They got off on turning them down and humiliating them in front of their girl party.

The reality is these guys allowed it. They let it happen. either you man up and go in ready for the fight, or you just move on realizing that this one may not be worth it.

You can hunt and vet for every trait you want...it's true. May take longer then you think. You can and will find that girl that fits you very ideal. Better still why not man up and you will find out that nearly every woman want's what you are. Some of baggage that you have to see through, remove,.....

took me a long time to realize but you value that which you work hardest to get. we are an odd species. we don't value what we don't have to work for.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I remember picking up the 'never approach GNO' advice, not sure where. I did notice throughout the years, the most success was in 2 groups, occasionally 3.

I assumed it was because girls on the hunt tended to be smaller groups, to avoid shaming each other.

Will be a good rabbit hole if I single up

[–]Westernhagen14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lack of feelz are threat'ning

My very life today

If I don't get some Tinder

Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away

Cock, ladies, it's just a click away

It's just a click away

It's just a click away

It's just a click away

It's just a click away

[–]JDRoedellMRP APPROVED11 points12 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Open hypergamy with a side of male blame-shifting.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

The funniest part is that the author is worried about the app "devaluing" women to options instead of priorities. Women are required to voluntarily use the app for it to work! This is equivalent to blaming food companies for people being fatasses. People choose to eat just as they are choosing casual sex. In this case the only person getting their panties in a bunch is the author...not the men or women using the app...just the author.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Kind of off topic but in college I was taking a sociology class as a required course. In this they mentioned some very hard to swallow truths about our society. I will detail them here.

  1. You don't really have freedom to make a choice, you choose from what's presented. Ie. fatasses and poor people. If you live in a poorer area, your choice of foods are going to be alot worse than for say the neighborhood next door to the whole foods store.

  2. Of the options you choose from, 95% of people are incapable of making a non-choice. Therefore they always take the easier route.

  3. Sexuality and Society go hand in hand. Again, back to points 1&2. If all your friends are bragging about hookups on tinder, then suddenly you find yourself making tinder a choice even though its a bad choice. You know it's a bad choice, but again you are taking the easiest path.

  4. Went to a lecture on young people and sexuality. I can't present the whole thing of course, but it boiled down to "Today's youth enjoy a culture where you can instantly contact people and this feeds their need for sociality/sexuality". I took it to mean, its easy and cheap, so why not? They don't know how to build a relationship because all of the ones they ever had were quick, instant, and zero quality.

Going further to your comment. Yes they make the choice today not realizing tomorrow's consequence. Eventually a girl with 25 notches on her belt is going to end up with an STD, maybe one ajax wont scrub off, but at least she can brag to her friends and receive attention. So we choose from our presented choices and we are incapable of making a non-choice. Who here is to really blame? It's easy to say the user. It's much more difficult to prove that McDonalds is making people fat.

Edit: Accidentally left out the part where you can be non-genuine in these online social interactions and never forcing you to be yourself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Accidentally left out the part where you can be non-genuine in these online social interactions and never forcing you to be yourself.

Fuck. Right now 'paper alphas' in the manosphere are this to a T.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hence my abs and/or pics or GTFO proposal made previously.

Trust goes with a face, so at some point, RZD will have to come out of the shadows or fade away completely.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. Just caught it now.

I'm rooting for you, regardless.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyone can be an alpha on the internet lol! Kind of sad, but I take time when I can and actually read through OYS replies and nuke shit if possible. My little action that has no reaction ;D

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I've been slacking a bit. I'm following one guys MAP right now, but could just as easily follow 3 or 4.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not sure if i fully followed your thought train. To be clear I'm not arguing against the sex or the eating from a morality standpoint. I see neither as "wrong". Simply that the author is trying to impose their concerns onto the women using the app as if they are the victims somehow. Tinder isnt bad. The guy or girl participating arent bad.

Now if someone eats at McDonald's every day and then bemoans the fact that they are fat...yeah dude that's your fault. It's not morally wrong, but it's wrong according to your ideal end goal (to not be fat). I would go so far as to say the reason 95% are unable to make a non-choice is because they are not presented with (are ignorant of) the ability to make a non-choice. Taking it a step further, a lot of society is the way it is today because of people's ignorance of another way: to have fun, to relieve stress, to make friends, to be fulfilled, etc.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You followed it perfectly actually. We are both firing on the same cylinders.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome.

[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Please stop saying "we" and "people" can't choose for ourselves. Yes, many people are weak sheep but lots of people aren't.

It also sounds like you have your causalities mixed up. It's not the bad food in poor neighborhoods that makes people fat, it's the average poor person's lack of ability to delay gratificiation that is the reason they are poor and the reason they can't say no to junk food, and that's why the stores stock that food.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Here is the scenario they were talking about. If you want to take your family out to for something to eat as a nice once a month treat. You are poor so no transpo and no money. You have but few options, so they choose from the cheapest fast foods. I would say that until you go grocery shop in poor neighborhoods you cannot really grasp what I am talking about. The same concept in grocery stores across the US. Different places carry different items. You aren't going to find alot of fresh and healthy foods they could buy as a choice to McDonalds. In fact, you would find that even if they had those items, the food stamps + money would not actually be enough to afford that style of eating. Now you are forced to buy cheap, high carb foods that been processed the hell out of.

I will use "we" and "people" any time I want to, so nah nah nah nah =Þ (well at least in regards to quoting others)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

using late 90's money, would you put a family of 3 making 19 k before taxes, into the "so poor have no options" category? For reference location is NYC.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Shit, those people are living high on the hog! 19k in 1998 would have been well above the poverty line. My memory is a might fuzzy, but I am pretty sure they were talking about people living hand to mouth, not the upper middle class!!!!! Assume your family of 3 is at 10.5k (pre-tax), mom is working a full time minimum wage job. How does that adjust your perspective?

Edit: got my math wrong on a single parent family.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

real talk?

these were my folks.

We did ok. No cars.

mom cooked all the time and we never went out. Went ( walked or bus) to several grocery stores on the weekend so that mom could cook actual nutritious meals, not bread with bread.

high on the hog we did not live .

But also not ever was there an excuse to eat like crap because there was no choice.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey sorry about that, I had to edit my math because I forgot how to math. I am talking a single mother making 10.5k a year. 19k a year at a family of three bring about new choices.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

one available parent always brings about more choices than two.

Dad would walk about 10-15 miles in one direction, then back, looking around for best prices and so on.

Point being, there is usually a way if you have some social support.

[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm IIFYM through and through. I eat white bread, butter, processed meats, pasta, crackers with jam, candy, ice cream. I eat nothing whole grain, hardly ever any veggies. It's cheap, high carb stuff and all that fancy "healthy" food, I hate it.

Yet I'm fit, strong and lean. Because I count calories and have some willpower.

The idea that people are fat because they're poor is so backwards. It costs more money to overeat, not less.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's run the numbers really quick:

Meal (Healthy)

  • Rotisserie Chicken - 7$ - 280 cals.
  • Spinach - $2 - 65 cals.
  • Broccoli - $3 - 35 cals.
  • Squash - $4 - 45 cals.
  • Total: $14
  • Calories: 425 cals.

Meal (Shit)

  • Hamburger Helper - 4$ - 350 cals
  • Hamburger - 2.50$ - 733 cals
  • Can of Corn - 1$ - 60 cals
  • Instant Potatoes - 3$ - 80 cals
  • Total: $10.50
  • Calories: 1223

I am not taking the position of lack of responsibility. The pure math doesn't bear out your argument.

[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Meal (Shit) Total: $10.50 Calories: 1223

So at $5 you get a 600kcal meal. That's the pure math of responsibility and calorie counting.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nothing new.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.” - Socrates

In the sixties the hippie chicks were adding 25 notches, the seventies disco chicks were adding 25 notches, eighties house party chicks were adding 25 year etc etc.

They act in the same manner, the delivery mechanism varies from generation to generation.

With social media, it is just more in the open.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny how this lack of privacy in the modern age is having effects.

I'm with you. Probably not a lot has changed, except for now people are aware of it. The fact it pisses so many off leaves you to wonder, how many people need to be lied to to be happy?

I'm with RZD, be in the position to thrive

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct. The "cause" has always been the hamster justification.

Men, who wish better of people, giving flowery excuses as to why women behave the way they do.

The greatest minds are guilty of giving women more credit than they deserve for fidelity and chastity, when those qualities have never benefited any man or woman when it comes to sexual strategy. People who enjoy fucking and the possible variety associated with that will act accordingly. No point in shaming AWALT.

Enjoy the decline as a top 10%er. Should it be my concern if the other 90% literally hand their women to the top 10% by being ignorant or profoundly unattractive?

[–]Sensei_Hensei3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder what they mean by "shapely"

[–]BlindNowhereMan[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It means she's fat.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Tinder is misogynist"

laughing my ass off

[–]Balldogs points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You mock but frankly I'd rather fuck a woman who knows what she's doing rather than some terrified virgin giving toothy bjs and having no idea how to act or look sexy. Only beta manginas pretending to be alphas are frightened of dating an experienced woman because they're terrified that they won't match up to her past fucks. All this whining about women riding the cock carousel smacks of more insecurity than a prom night in Iowa. You're all just scared that you're not as good as you think you are, and you've invented a bullshit excuse for when she realises that and leaves. I have no insecurity. I know I'm great in the sack. I'm so good that I have to hire Ted Cruz to murder my plates because otherwise they won't leave me alone. I'm the alpha whose dick other alphas willingly suck on. And I don't fuck women who act like little girls. The fuck planet of paedophiles are you on if you find women who act like children hot? I fuck women who know how to fuck, and I teach them new ways to take dick. Ever heard if nasal sex? Neither had they till they fucked me. You can have that one for free.

Watch the skies people, 9/11 was done by women.

[–]BlindNowhereMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, relax.. Read the lesson learned.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pixel alpha what's the frequency?

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a single scrap of introspection. All of the blame is externalized. Interesting.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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