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This MRP stuff... it works, if you can man up. (self.marriedredpill)

submitted by spexer

I was like many of you, finding this place on my way to the dead bedrooms sub.

My stats: Married 16 years, 2 kids. Both wife and I are in our 40s. Took the red pill about 2 years ago. I read the sidebar here, I took responsibility and I GOT TO WORK ON ME.

End result? Marriage turned around. I have the wife I want, and I like the man I see looking back at me in the mirror.

Yes, there is always improvement to be made... and the work never ends.. but I think some of you need to hear that this MRP stuff works... if you do the work.

And that is the kicker. I come back to this sub to find posts saying how SHE is the problem? Arguing that being alpha or red pill isnt what is most important... and even making a case for the dad bod? Posts here where people are looking for shortcuts or another way....

bullshit.

Do the work. Read the books. Make your MAP. Post in the "Own your shit" thread. Take ALL the responsibility and fucking LIFT.

It really is that simple.


[–]DeplorableRay22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Friendly reminder that red pill effort cannot achieve blue pill goals.

[–]GongShanks1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also you cannot achieve your way to red pill success. Nobody gives a shit that you were tops in your class at Whateverthefuck University if you are squishy man child.

[–]hot-breakfast4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably the single hardest truth for me to swallow has been that "track record means nothing to a woman." Track record is the only way I really can know a person. But over and over again, I see that this is true for women. They care about RIGHT NOW.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

a buddy of mine, naturally red pill, was lamenting about his 2 year girlfriend who just broke up with him. He says he is at a point where he is tired of the game, and just wants to cuddle, be in love, and be completely open and honest with someone emotionally.

SO he did that with her, telling her that he was pretty sure this would lead her to break up with him. She swore that it would only deepen their love.

... and 1 month later, she left him.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Well, I find posts like the one you're referring to useful for engendering a dialog. Got to be careful not to become the Greek Chorus that many would like to see. It's a knife's edge.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, how are new guys gonna learn if they aren't called out on their BS. There's always another smurf around the corner who doesn't know he's a smurf

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I am not arguing for those posts to be removed... Just adding this thread so there is some balance.

Not all of the MRP crowd ends in a divorce where they think they are the victim.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Very few have, and of all the descriptors, victim doesn't seem to apply.

There's field reports in the works, the grass is greener where you water it

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

very true. I shouldnt of generalized... I guess I was "triggered"

heh

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol, your getting a fair bit of grief with this post, but I will say this 88Wil88s post responses compared to this one shows the difference between guys and men IMO

[–]trpbritguy3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have the wife I want Do you..? Or do you have a wife that finds you attractive now?

Every time I read something like this I think: "Yes, it worked, good for him! He gets laid now." but can't help wondering if that's all most of you class as a good wife?

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was brief in my description of improvements in my marriage. Yes, sex has improved, I get it when i want and she is often the instigator.

however what I find even more rewarding is her accepting me and following me again as the leader of the family. She and I make a great team again, and we are heading on a great adventure.

At it's root, MRP is not about getting sex from your wife. It is about you improving into the man you want to be. Your wife naturally will want that, unless there is too much baggage for her to get over.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

can't help wondering if that's all most of you class as a good wife

Right here fellas? There is a lot more than sex to a good wife. One point being, if she can't event bring that to a quality man (the bar here is not Brad Pitt) then you are wasting your time and resources.

Don't set the bar so low.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Word fucker, word

It's amazing what adhering to the works does. ain't it ?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Bottom line... it works for you.

but sometimes you got to realize there is another adult in the relationship...

It may not work for her.. what ever the reason.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

True... but I would consider that part of the win win.

either

a) You follow MRP guidance and become the man... your wife follows your lead and your marriage works.

or

b) You follow MRP guidance and become the man... your wife doesnt follow your lead, and you realize you are better and deserve better than her and the marriage. You move forward with your better life without her.

both scenarios end with you having a better life!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

better life without her.

Hence the divorce posts. I dont judge. Each dude decides for himself

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

If you are the same guy she married and she turns off the sex tap, it IS her fault. You can play the CAPITAL LETTERS LIFT, IM ALPHA game all you like. It is all a crock of shit if you waste that effort on the one woman who for no good reason has withdrawn her affection. On the flipside if you have gone beta, stopped owning your shit, gotten really out of shape then it is all the guy's fault. My post was directed at guys who never slipped, not whiny betas who needed the internet to tell them how to trick their hag wives into sucking their pathetic weiners once a week.

[–]weakandsensitive3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Jesus fuck. Are you really just going to spend all your time promoting a victim complex? If so, you should fuck off to dead bedrooms or the relationshits hug box. If you keep jerking it to being a victim, I hope the mods ban you sooner than later.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have never experienced dead bedroom so I would get banned pretty quick in there for laughing at them.

[–]doncucker890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This nigga. Uber mensch, prolly works at McDonald's and limp dicks his wife.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awarded, +1 Validation of righteousness.

Go forth and be manly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My post was directed at guys who never slipped

Buddy. Maybe you got off at the wrong station. I like a good discussion to parse things out, pull the strands apart, see what's what but your defensiveness is diminishing any value you added with your post.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Plus, I want to meet these guys who never slipped.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I bet most guys would not know alpha if it hit them in the face. Especially not here. Maybe high beta.

Alphas didnt get married... FWIW, guys like Vasiliy are probably alpha all along. I still have my doubts. Think he had an interesting story in his youth that he is ignoring.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone's holding back something, guaranteed

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The whole alpha thing is a spectrum. Vasily is one of the more entertaining people at TRP. Alphas get married, Mike Tyson, Brian Stann, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump. I agree that Chad does not live either here or at TRP. Chad is a natural and does not need to spend one minute thinking about how to be alpha. We are all here to improve ourselves and try and figure out that most elusive and difficult to define creature, the human female.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've yet to see an actual alpha commit to one woman.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brian Stann

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Going to ignore the entertaining grammer nazis focus... and instead try to offer some guidance.

YOU are the container, and a woman is the water that takes the shape of the environment it is placed in.

So if YOU improve yourself and your life, and are leading, MOST women will follow.

And likewise, if you marry a girl and you then let you and your life go to shit, she will follow you into a shitty relationship. The sex tap is turned off, to borrow your words.... and guess what?

it is your fault.

[–]ReddJiveMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

in every personal relationship you have you are the common denominator.

Though I will caveat what you say here and that there are shitty people in your life. You have to be man enough to get rid of them.

But in the beginning you can't make that call. Takes time and lots of work.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

This is a pretty disappointing post from an approved member.

  • Profanity, check
  • Bold font, check
  • upper case LIFT, check

c'mon guy, you can do better than this.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Well I didn't use the bullet points that you display... so you got me there.

I admit I could have gone into greater depth, offering more insight, some examples and the like. But truth be told, I need to get down to the gym and LIFT... sorry, I mean 'lift'.... and I wanted to respond to the confusing posts arguing other views.

I also did not see a recent positive report, and want to offer some of the newer folks that this stuff does work. They need to see that in addition to all of the "Guess it's divorce for me" posts.

Maybe you get it, and this post isnt for you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

If you could have gone to greater depths, do it. Delete this piece of shit and write something of value.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED[S] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

no. I'm good.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You should reconsider. You're a success. Guys want to gain from you and they won't do that until you provide solid intel. I go back to my original statement, you're better than that.

[–]throwawaysarenotok1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You shouldn't knock OP for contributing, even if you think it's poor quality. If you do it enough people will start doubting themselves, and think twice before posting (unless that's what you want).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shouldn't people doubt themselves? Shouldn't people ask themselves, "is this really a worthwhile use of my time? of the subs time?".

For something to be contributed, in any walk of life, it should possess some level of value to the people it's being contributed to.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I got something out of it. I like short and direct. Good reminder that simple works.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that's great

[–]hot-breakfast0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For a sub that claims to promote an amoral praxeology, MRP sure likes posts that approach propaganda. A praxeology should eventually produce a handbook--short, direct, emotionless.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Did someone piss in your coffee today?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

the cream curdled when it hit the coffee...was like a cup of coffee flavored cottage cheese.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Flaired users do not have to adhere to the guidelines.

[–]Mecha750 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Flaired users do not have to adhere to the guidelines.

Then how do they lose their flair?

[–]weakandsensitive6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

gotta stop participating in the circle jerk.

flair is a state of mind.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

express yourself

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a flair for the dramatic. Good enough?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Its there for the new reader to quickly know who probably knows whst they are doing, its not a reward.

Only one guy ever lost his, and it was for lashing out and blaming everyone else for his problems

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think u/saint_chalet wants to have a Man-off to challenge the OP for his flair. Marquess of Queensberry Rules, nothing below the belt.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Monkey knife fight at dawn it is.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't want his flair.

Now that it's been explained to me, I see he earned it.

I'm going to keeping working away, improving, calling out shit if I see it and trying to add value where I can.

[–]Mecha75-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea!!! It worked for you. How did it work for you? Its working for me too. All it took for me was to get to dread level 2 for my wife to respond. None the less, i am still doing the work to improve myself. Because I am happier with myself and I am reaping the additional benefits in the way my wife and girls react to me.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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