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Preface:

Think it’s important to give a bit of a bio so you can make up your own mind whether the source is credible. Mid 40’s white male – divorced, was married 17 years I called quits, and we remain close/amicable/friendly. High School Athletic, but didn’t have the skills ability to make it at a higher level. USMC Infantry, LEO (Homicide Detective), Government Contractor Overseas, and now upper level management type.

5’10” 230lbs, visible abs first thing in the morning, but first cup of coffee washes them away. Ideal weight is around 212-214lbs. Bench: 335 Squat: 405 DL: 675 OHP: 205 *more on bench below…..

How to develop or reinforce Alpha Traits as an older guy

This is for guys that are either naturally beta or how let themselves side into beta mode. The main difference between alpha and beta comes to two interrelated things:

1) Excellence 2) Confidence

Excellence first guys! If you have confidence but no excellence it’s only a matter a time before someone pulls your chain.

Step 1 – Find something or develop something you excel at, and make it be something that’s life defining (Career, Education, Athletics, Hobby). No one is Alpha in all situations or circumstance. You could be a MLB All-Star pussy snatcher MVP, but your first day in BJJ you are not the Alpha in the room. Know your excellence and carry it with you, but be self-aware enough to recognize a situation and always seek improvement. Once you find your excellence work on your weaknesses – AKA conquer your fears.

The good think about being 40 or over is you’re probably already an expert at something. Hopefully it’s work so that you have secure financial stability. There are three statuses in life advancing, stagnant, regression. Find what matters to you and always strive to be advancing. Start out in the mail room to one day running the company. Once you except “eh this is good enough” you’re no longer alpha – that’s just not what alphas do. If you’re a mid-level manager you need to be working towards upper management and then executive. If you’re cutting lawns with one lawn mower out of the back of a pick-up you’re working towards owner a fleet of trucks/crews, etc.

Step 2 – Development confidence. A lot of confidence will just be derived from recognizing you excel at X, Y, or Z. The other way to do it is to test yourself. Every day you should test yourself in some way.

Personal anecdotal evidence: Up till 40 I was in career fields where “being tested” was organic to the environment. In the infantry everything is a fucking test – against yourself or against others. Alphas do alpha shit….wanna be squad leader? It’s all through a trial by fire. As a cop you get tested as soon as you say “you’re under arrest” and dude replies “I not going to jail”. As a detective it’s about who’s solving the most or toughest cases. And overseas it was who’s going to run what mission. My current job I’m not tested. My title alone makes me the defacto alpha. I come to work – do my shit and go home. My first year I wanted to shoot myself until I realized I’m not being tested – I’m not validating my alpha status, and complacency kills everything; Including Alpha status. Develop/Improve/Maintain Status

Education Always be improving your education – hopefully your career is set and this can be more of an “at leisure” endeavor. Pick something and go for it. Pick up a degree, or another degree, or advanced degree, or technical certificate. Point is always be educating yourself in some manner. Challenge yourself – suck at Math? Start taking some higher level math courses. Treat it as a challenge and succeed. Take some classes at the local JCC or College/University. Also great for socializing and meeting people outside your work/neighborhood.

Exercise This here is the simplest and easiest way to change your patterns of behavior. Forget all the bullshit programs…..just pick one and BE CONSISTENT. This is again an avenue to find something you excel at – fitness in general (that alone birthed the Crossfit community), or sport, but find something. This is personally what works for me:

  1. Cardio – if you’re fat, as in you don’t have abs, you have to do cardio. Me personally, the easiest and best cardio I’ve found is running and here’s why. It’s actually functional – better than that it’s an actual lifesaving skill. It behooves you to do two things really well – quickly get away from a threat and put distance between you and a threat. So that’s what I concentrate on. 30 minutes every day, alternating between HIIT and LISS. For HIIT I vary my sprints; suicide drills, cone drills, stair/hill sprints, 100m, 200m, 400m, up to a 1 mile all out sprint. LISS is as basic as it gets; a 30 minute jog which for me is about 3.5 miles.

  2. Lifting – I put my PR up top. Bench is just for reference as I very really bench now. My pressing is comprised of Strict Overhead Press only. Why? Because it’s manly as shit to push big weight overhead. I lift 6 days a week. I train “movements” not body parts.

Monday – Squat Tuesday – Standing Overhead Press Wednesday – Deadlift Thursday – Squat Friday – Standing Overhead Press Saturday – Deadlift

I use the “wave method” for all movements. Look it up on T-Nation. Works great for me. I lift at home in a power rack from rogue fitness. Track my lifts weekly and fractional weights are priceless. Always aiming to go up 1lbs per week. Again – lifting is a basic lifesaving skill. Stronger you are the harder you are to kill.

  1. Kickboxing – Buy yourself a heavy bag and some gloves. I probably should have put this as number 1, because this probably has the biggest payoff to confidence building and lifesaving in general. Guys it’s impossible to be Alpha if you don’t have clue one as to how to throw a fucking punch or kick. Cardio and Strength definitely help in fighting/self-defense, but if you’re a 200lbs guy with a 400lbs bench and are an “arm puncher” there is a great chance you’re gonna get laid the fuck out by someone with a year’s worth of legit martial arts or training. I do this anywhere from 1 – 6 days a week depending on how I feel. Intensity varies. Sometimes I just to skill/drill work and sometimes up the intensity to where it’s a secondary HIIT/Conditioning workout.

Diet This whole post is the KISS approach to ALPHA and this is no different. Look, you can’t be alpha if you’re a fat fuck. Watch your diet – this isn’t rocket science – calories in/calories out and make wise food selections to fuel your education/work/exercise pursuits. Now I will say what works for me is a Keto diet, but honestly there are too many great tasting foods you can’t eat on Keto, so I stick with intermittent fasting – google it if you don’t know, but the Mr. Slippery Cliff notes are:

8 hour eating window for bulking (this is only for truly skinny fucks) 6 hour eating window for maintenance 4 hour eating window for reasonable weight loss 2 hour eating window for I need to lose a metric fuck ton of weight. My sample day might go like this: 6:00 Cardio – either HIIT or LISS 7:30 Coffee – black if you can, but a tablespoon or two of sugar/cream isn’t gonna wreck your fast 2:00 Break fast with lunch. Usually a small meal – equivalent to a kids meal in terms of sizing/calories because I don’t want to be feel bloated for my workout. 5:00 Lifting followed by Kickboxing 7:00 Dinner and for me this is huge meal. If out I might do appetizer, salad/soup, dinner with sides, etc. If it’s pizza night with the kids I order my own meat lovers and go to fucking town. Big think I avoid is sugar…..yeah, no cakes or treats, and no calories from liquid. I stick with quality protein sources (beef, bison, chicken, fish, eggs, pork) and quality sides (fruits and veg). My one weakness is breakfast for dinner when I kill some pancakes (usually after squats on Monday). Drink lots of water

Hobbies Another avenue to work on excellence; sure it can be poker, or chess, tennis, softball, kickball, or flag football, but to get the most bang out of your buck and transfer to confidence make it something MANLY, functional and a life skill. Things like: Shooting, Archery, which both lead to hunting, and camping, or potentially fishing…….boxing, kickboxing, BJJ, coding, construction, etc.

BONUS - Supplements I think all the above is pretty straight forward, but I want to throw out a bonus kicker that might be taboo or frowned on, but if you’re over 40 for the love of all that’s Masculine and Alpha look into getting on TRT or if you’re so inclined steroids. I read a lot of guys say “back to when I was 20” well Testosterone replacement therapy will definitely bring about alpha tendencies. Sex drive/libido back to early 20’s, workouts are more productive, nutrient absorption is better, literally everything is better. Then there is the darkside of supplements – depending on where you live obviously, but other compounds can literally turn a 120lbs beta into a 190lbs alpha REAL FUCKING QUICK.

TL;DR: Quicksteps to confidence: take 1 college level class a semester to increase knowledge, prestige, standing, and for social networking. Workout hard and keep it basic – think preparing for combat, not the beach. Diet and eat healthy. Pick a hobby that’s transferable to a real skill and interesting – no one gives a shit about a stamp collection. If over 40 look into TRT to supercharge you results.


[–]SampsonBrass 3 points3 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Thanks for this, its got some really great advice and I'm singing from the same hymnal. Particularly when it comes to:

Always be improving your education

There's nothing more critical to personal success and happiness in my view. The shortsighted anti-intellectualism, anti-liberal arts slant of TRP is it's one weakness in my view.

the easiest and best cardio I’ve found is running

Been a runner all my life and I believe it to be the reason I've never been fat. My knees are no longer what they were so mixing in some rowing.

Great post and one that I think anyone can benefit from reading. Nice to see something that is not only well written but also free of ridiculous braggadocio that doesn't contribute to its effectiveness.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Somehow, I don't see this guy needing to AMOG about how he is more alpha than the speaker at a company event, who then deigned to buy drinks for the room full of supplicants.

By the way, isn't braggadocio one of the meats from the charcuterie plate you recently mentioned? I may have something mixed up.

[–]SampsonBrass 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

LOL. I had in mind the garden variety "how I done alpha good - this shit works" braggart seen here whose HB9 blonde bisexual wife invariably pulls 18yos for threesomes of course preceded by a best of three falls contest to determine who gets to blow him first.

That pecorino with truffles served with mini honeycombs though.....damn worthy of some braggadocio

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I figured it out, I get mortadella and braggadocio mixed up because they are both baloney.

That honeycomb is a clue as to why sauternes is so good with a strong nutty cheese.

[–]anythingincMRP APPROVED - Blue Pill Diplomat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

mini honeycombs

You, sir, just elevated my charcuterie plate game. I tip my hat and nod, ever-so-slightly, in your direction.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I should have clarified better:

Cardio - yes, it definitely contributes to a calorie deficit and assists with fat loss. To me though it's secondary to what it really is....it's a primal skill set. You should be able to do two things very well - put great distance between you and a threat and put immediate distance between you and threat (or close distance).

If you look at any athletic endeavor (military, law enforcement, fighting, etc). The ability to put out sustained energy and the ability to put our peak energy are tested.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, survival is about the application of speed and power.

To remove oneself from the untenable situation, or to destroy whatever's in front of you if forced to engage.

Curls for the girls won't save your ass in a crisis.

[–]SampsonBrass 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

No need to clarify. I got that. Just a lot of cardio skeptics here plus I love running so I'd outrun 'em. Lol

Edit: go run around city park in denver, the reservoir in central park or around fresh pond and see how many lean, jacked dudes are out there running with you.

[–]AechzenMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

go run around...

Not many. It's either women, or guys who look like the old Ryan Hall, before he discovered lifting. See if you can find modern pictures of him; he's gotten some serious lifting gains. http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/thats-not-fat-how-ryan-hall-gained-40-pounds-of-muscle

Honestly, I see a lot of women out running. A lot of road races are now more than half female. I'm not sure what that means, but it's a phenomenon I hadn't noticed until somebody pointed it out to me, and now I notice when more than half the field is female. I did a half marathon in 2015 where the overall winner was a female who did it in the high 1:20s.

[–]paulwalkr1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't see anything specific to married dudes but It made for a good read. Up vote for you.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I should have elaborated a bit....maybe that'll be for part 2.

But the short of it is if you find "your" excellence, develop [primal] confidence and actually be alpha - not "act" alpha then 99% of these marriage questions of "hey guys, my wife said she didn't want to watch this TV show, is she shit testing me?" go by the wayside.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I've considered TRT, but my biggest concern is I've read that your body starts to not produce testosterone the longer you've been on it. Not sure I want to be dependent on shots for the next 30 or so years if that's true. I mean, I can see it if your T is legitimately low (below 250 or whatever the benchmark is), but guys are getting on it that don't really have low T.

I started taking zinc, protein shakes, and vitamin D daily, and over a year my T went from 325 to 425, and my Free T went from 3.7 to almost 8.

As far as diet goes, I try to keep it simple: eat some fruits and veggies every day, get enough protein, have healthy fats, and limit sugar. It seems like ever since I kept it simple instead of following diet fads, the weight has come off and stayed off. But, yeah, continual lifting is important alongside. But, I didn't find cardio necessary to take off the weight initially, just eating more healthy.

[–]dandeliontamerz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What kind of zinc and how much do you take? I take 50mg of chelated Zinc per a day. I've read that only about 15mg gets absorbed.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

50mg per day - it's just a standard Walgreens brand.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah....so the whole below 250 is a bit of misnomer that physicians outside of actual TRT physicians don't really understand. It's arbitary.....250-1100....for a guy to say well I'm at 350 so I'm within normal range - yeah if you're 60 years old.

Science hasn't determined the chicken or the egg causation/correlation to testosterone yet. I'm old so my testosterone is down/or I'm testosterone is down so I'm old

As for your concern - it's a legit concern to a degree. Even TRT Doses will shut down your HPTA, but do what degree is individual dependent and you can easily keep it going/or reverse shut down with Clomid/HCG.

Cardio isn't just about loosing weight - although it helps. It's important as it's a critical and primal life skill.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Cardio isn't just about loosing weight - although it helps. It's important as it's a critical and primal life skill.

I don't disagree with this. I was disagreeing with the statement that cardio is necessary to lose weight and get lean. My experience is diet is more important, and I did it on weights and diet alone.

Yeah....so the whole below 250 is a bit of misnomer that physicians outside of actual TRT physicians don't really understand. It's arbitary.....250-1100....for a guy to say well I'm at 350 so I'm within normal range - yeah if you're 60 years old.

Good point. I've done some research on this, and from what I remember a guy near my age (48) should be still over 500, and I'm at 425. I forgot about that research I did, and you jogged my memory. I suppose I wouldn't be opposed to getting T levels up to average for an age group, which wouldn't require a whole bunch of supplementation.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why be average. This is about being alpha....aka the best version of you. With TRT my personal experience is to be OPTIMAL and for me that means test as high as possible WITHOUT sides.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That was my original point, but I believe I've brought my T up to the max through diet and supplements already.

[–]AechzenMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Cardio isn't just about loosing weight - although it helps. It's important as it's a critical and primal life skill.

Basically, you should be able to fuck until you're done, or she's done, and not stop because you're out of breath.

[–]mrslippery731 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Solid advice.

[–]uniquevoid0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You seem to know about hormones and shit

I got a blood test done and got free T 13 and 650 testosterone. Is that any good for a 22 y old? My doctor said it's good

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not an expert , but from my research your total T is above average and your free T is excellent

[–]OverthinkerTRP0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Do you know of specific courses or certifications someone should take if they want to be upper exec one day?

Particularly someone with a STEM degree

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you really want social prestige and you are young enough and motivated enough, I would become a patent attorney. Bar membership is limited to those with science undergrad, and they make bank.

Otherwise, STEM has some executive limitations without an MBA. If you want in on the management side of any manufacturing or other production application related to sciences, Specific training in quality (ISO, SQF or other QMS), or production optimization (Six Sigma, Black Belt) are pathways to management away from the lab.

[–]SampsonBrass 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

STEM has some executive limitations

I can't believe you actually posted that and reddit didn't auto delete your account lol

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't spreadsheet your way to happiness.

We see that here all the time.

[–]mrslippery731 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Certification alone won't open doors - check the box, experience is king, but diversity certainly helps. As an example, being a technically skilled electrical engineer won't necessarily be the best director (assuming you work in a profit driven organization). Certificates in Accounting, Budgeting, Operations/Logistics Management, and literally anything with IT will increase your market value.

Masters degree in your field or MBA (if moving to a strictly business operations/management side as opposed to staying within your field) helps greatly if you're an external candidate.

[–]ShiveringPines1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

At least in the tech sector, courses/certs are worth a whole lot less than:

  • cross-functional experience (get some time in many different biz functions)

  • willingness to jump companies/roles for the right gig

  • giving good meeting game and social skills (and politics)

  • networking smart

  • doing your job well and getting visibility for it

source: middle-management

[–]SampsonBrass 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Good advice from all. Credentials will only get you half way down the hall to the corner office.

You've got to have sophisticated social and communication skills too. Or at least enough to fool the decision makers into thinking you do. Don't overlook them.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Curse you eye contact and mouth sounds. Foiled by the interview again.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice post and yes, constitwncy in anything pays off. Especially weight training programs

Lots of great advice from you and it's nice to see a list of a divorced dude telling us your getting along like adults. Congrats

[–]bourbonhipster-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

For a dude as fucking strong as you, what the fuck does a cup of coffee "washing your abs away" even mean?

No, you don't have to do a lick of cardio to have a lean physique, you just can't eat like a fat fuck. And in a world where your every craving is a fridge trip, online order or phone call away, that qualifies as most people's eating habits.

So by 'supplements' you mean TRT and possibly steroids. I thought you were going to educate us on minerals. But I guess that explains the 675 deadlift at your height and age.

Your eating window breakdowns are arbitrarily unnecessary and is arguably far inferior to nutrient tracking.

But hey with that much testosterone who gives a fuck about tracking nutrition?

[–]handfulofnuts4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How's it feel to be such a faggot that you get bent out of shape over an internet post? Maybe you need a little TRT yourself.

[–]bourbonhipster1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha no.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had mixed emotions on this as well but what he is saying is that his bf% is not low enough for his abs to survive the water.

[–]bourbonhipster2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We are talking about a cup of coffee here, a diuretic. Not exactly like drinking a gallon of salt water.

If your abs disappear over a cup of coffee you are still fat.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No fucking shit.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

For a dude as fucking strong as you, what the fuck does a cup of coffee "washing your abs away" even mean?

Has to do with not having BF% low enough to see anything beyond a visible ab line.

No, you don't have to do a lick of cardio to have a lean physique, you just can't eat like a fat fuck

Missed the point of this post. Cardio isn't about "getting lean". Cardio is primal skill set. When you cardio is depleted your ability to perform any task goes with it. Start thinking performance and not looks.

So by 'supplements' you mean TRT and possibly steroids.

Minerals??? yup, take a one a day vitamin and see where it gets you

Your eating window breakdowns are arbitrarily unnecessary and is arguably far inferior to nutrient tracking

No - it's KISS calorie and nutrition management. You should be eating for performance not some arbitrary macro nutrient count you got off of a youtube fitness community.

[–]bourbonhipster0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I guess we'll chalk this whole thread up to "men will behave differently based on their goals".

Otherwise I can hardly say I agree on half of your fitness and nutrition advice.

You have outlined very specifically what has worked for you.

Except for perhaps a few vital details in the 'supplements' department.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Agree to disagree then

[–]bourbonhipster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're no pussy at least. I approve.

[–]SBDadvanced 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Awesome post

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks bro

[–]trp_dudeHard Core Red-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

?What? This post contains no information of use to anyone who's read the sidebar.

[–]mrslippery730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then don't read it

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