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As I read some of these field reports and notes about behavior, it makes me reflect on some of the shit tests I've passed and where I've failed. The results were 100 % predictable based on RP theory.

I've been married now for 20 years. If you've read my previous posts, you know the history.

This got longer than I intended. If after the first minute or two, you're enjoying the reading, continue . If not, stop reading. Don’t bore yourself through the whole thing and then whine like a little bitch because it was toooo looong… You've been warned.

When we were first dating, my then GF was moving from her local community college to a state university to finish her degree. She started a conversation that went something like this:

Her - "I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm falling in love with you, but I don’t know who I might meet in school". The RP translation here is "I'm going to a place with a huge CC, and I need to know you will be here when I get done". I was still pretty hardcore at the time, and didn't put up with any bullshit. Me - "That's fine. I don’t know who I might meet while you're away". The result: She transferred to a local school, and moved in with me.

We moved to Chicago (about 700 miles away from her family, which BTW, wasn't far enough). She bought a ticket home "to visit for a few weeks". I later found out it was a one way flight. We talked on the phone each night, and after a few weeks I drove back to pick her up. As it was time to leave, she "couldn't make up her mind". I calmly told her I would help her, and placed her belongings out in the driveway, and drove off without saying another word. The phone was ringing as I walked in the door (no telling how long she had been trying to call). She was a blubbering mess. I had just driven through the night alone. I was exhausted, and still had to go to work. I was in NO MOOD for nonsense. I just told her that if she had actually "made up her mind" she knew the address, and hung up. 2 days later she showed up at the door.

Fast forward 2 years (still not married) - She starts a conversation where she's basically asking me if I would visit her if she moved back home, giving me all of the rational for why I should (old friends and the like). I finally responded with "there's no reason for me to go back there. I sure as hell wouldn't travel 700 miles to visit a woman who left me twice." I then followed with "If you're trying to tell me you want out, just give me a ride to Bonzai Motorsports (local MC dealer) and you will never see me again". That was the last time we had a conversation like that one.

Some information that will help with the next one: my wife is a smoking hot natural redhead. I know that sounds trite, but that doesn't make it not true. She has literally gotten an offer for every job she has interviewed for. She has gotten unsolicited job offers from past clients. She has gotten free car service, food, dry cleaning, etc. It's disgusting to see how some men act around her.

Now, on to the next test - We used to carpool together and hit the gym on the way home. She would finish before me, and go to the juice bar. I found out that a personal trainer would make a point of being at the bar just about that time each evening. He moonlighted as a model, and brought her a picture of an underwear ad he did for Rolling Stone. She had that along with his number in her purse and actually showed it to me. When I found out, I got mad. All the conversation around how he was showing me disrespect, and how she owed me the same consideration I showed her by blowing off women who came on to me. All of it went nowhere. I spent the next 2 weeks collecting phone numbers. I handed her a pile of phone numbers written in women's handwriting (with those little hearts, smiley faces and the like). She went nuts. I just told her she wasn't the only one who could collect phone numbers and shut down. At the time, I was doing STFU. I didn't know it. I was just so pissed that I didn't want to even talk to her. Not because she had someone flirting with her, but because she refused to see how I felt about the whole thing.

The big shit tests stopped, and we married. The little tests carried on, however, and I failed many of those. They're not worth mentioning other than in aggregate for the purpose of the setting for the next big series of tests…

We are now in our 40's. A few years ago, her best friend divorced her husband. For the record, he was the perfect husband (great provider, great dad, always took care around the house, she and her kids wanted for NOTHING). My wife literally told me she divorced him because she was running out of time if she was EVER GOING TO FIND ANYTHING BETTER. Keep in mind, he's a pharmaceutical sales rep, making well into six figures. They had a massive house in a prestigious neighborhood, and his children absolutely adore him. After her divorce is finalized, she starts dating again. She and my wife talk frequently, and she would tell her about all of the hot guys she was now banging. All of the younger men hitting on her in bars. All of the swipes she has on Tinder. My wife would fill me in on the details, and I SWEAR could see her out of the corner of my eye studying my face for my reaction (shit tests). As that year dragged on, my wife found more and more things to be unhaaaappy about. One evening, having had enough of listening to her piss and moan, I simply walked over to the front door, opened it, and told her if she just couldn't be happy with what she had, she may as well just leave. She spent the next two days carrying on about how she couldn't believe I would just tell her to get out "after all that WE had been through together".

Now for a little poetic justice. My wife still talks to her frequently, but it seems the tide has turned. She now calls to cry to my wife about her predicament. She miscalculated the timing of the wall. She left her husband in her early 40s. She is a very attractive woman, but is about 25 lbs overweight. She's grown tired of being used by younger men and still HAWT older men (who then refuse to commit). She only gets offers of commitment from men she's not interested in (Beta chumps). Every year that goes by reduces her odds of branch swinging. She's expressed regret to my wife, but her husband has moved on. He's been dating another woman for about 6 months now. His new relationship is going much better, having been introduced to the RP by yours truly...


[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hypergamy's a bitch if the bitch is hypergamous.

[–]alphabeta49MRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure that's what is meant by AWALT. Every woman has it. To what degree is variable.

[–]BobbyPeruMRP Approved4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I spent the next 2 weeks collecting phone numbers. I handed her a pile of phone numbers written in women's handwriting (with those little hearts, smiley faces and the like). She went nuts. I just told her she wasn't the only one who could collect phone numbers and shut down. At the time, I was doing STFU. I didn't know it.

You went through all the effort for her. You were in the thick of her frame. I'm not sure why you are interpreting this as STFU.

[–]demeck[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're absolutely right. I was not RP at the time. That was one of the tests I failed. It worked out because she got some dread, but I was definately responding to her, not the other way around. I STFU after I dropped it on her. I should have done that from the start.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, numbers on notes. OP, you truly haven't done game since the early 90s

Glad to see his sprinkling alpha on his relationship. Always goes well

[–]JDRoedellMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is like a living breathing example of Rollo's writings.

[–]sh0ckley1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"if you're not happy, the door is right there..."

I said this effectively for the first time the other day. As you describe: "simply." Without raising my voice. Just a statement.

Her reaction was that of your wife: Shock. Horror. Feminine imperative shaming tactics. I let it sit there like an elephant in the room.

I understand now, what Deida means when he says "choose a woman who chooses you" and not to discredit his work, but I offer this warning - newbies should not start with Deida. The mistakes I made in my blue pill mind by misinterpreting his writing, because I lacked a solid red pill foundation of truth, have been costly, but I didn't know what I didn't know, and that's ok.

Solid post. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Genuinely curious. Could you give an example of something you misinterpreted from Deida before having a solid foundation?

[–]sh0ckley0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sure. For example - Praise.

He speaks a lot about praise being like food for the feminine. My BP mind took this to mean I should put pussy higher on the pedestal. I ended up tolerating a lot of bullshit, clueless about how to handle it, and made it worse while failing to vet as well as I could have. Can you see how that could happen?

I wasn't aware of how covertly conditioning my presence and affection could lead to improvement.

Other things he says hit me like a ton of bricks, but I wasn't strong enough to handle them. Things like - no woman will ever admit that she doesn't want to be the most important thing in your life.

True, but acta non verba. I ended up using this as a weapon, damaging the relationship and digging a deeper hole because of weak sauce ultimatums. He does suggest not to force your woman to make decisions but did not explain how in a way that I could put into action.

If I had started with MMSLP and /u/BluePillProfessor 's book. I would have made less mistakes. And only after I started reading Rollo, did I finally reach anger phase.

The MRP sidebar was placed in order for a damn good reason and I didn't know what I didn't know, so that's ok but if my mistakes can prevent a brand new guy from making the same mistakes, then that's a good thing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can absolutely see that outcome, especially if read before Rollo describes what's really going on. You'd be acting on advice detailing how to interact with your woman before rewiring your BP mindset and knowing how she'll interpret such actions.

 

Personally I think Rollo should come right after NMMNG as he does a better job at explaining hypergamy, what, and most importantly WHY everything is the way it is, and then Athol can follow up with "and so this is how a man should act in response". That's the order I ended up reading it. All in all the order is effective either way.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rollo should come right after NMMNG

The phrase is "Acta Non Verba" (Actions Not Words) not "Acta Non Cognito" (Action Not Learning or thinking) but the emphasis is on actions. TRM explains why better than anything out there but action still trumps understanding. Some guys can make a hobby of railing against the nature of women.

See Alex On Life for a good example of what can happen if you spend your time trying to explain it rather than deal with it :)

[–]trp_dudeHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

she was running out of time if she was EVER GOING TO FIND ANYTHING BETTER

LOL

She miscalculated the timing of the wall. She left her husband in her early 40s... She only gets offers of commitment from men she's not interested in (Beta chumps)

LOL LOL

but her husband has moved on. He's been dating another woman for about 6 months now

LOL LOL LOL

If a couple in their early 40s separate, the guy, if in shape, will upgrade and the woman will downgrade. Yeah, I'd say she's past her "best by" date.

btw, OP, how's the progress on your own end? Starfish sex improved?

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