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One of the first things new guys and old alike will here as advice is: STFU.

But since we have a group of Rambo Red guys on here, I think we need to discuss what this means.

Warning : rant

WHY do we say STFU?

She has ceased to earn your time, and attention – why should she have your words of validation- you know, your impotent anger. You are not feared, or appreciated. You are not special. You can be replaced. You are not attractive yet. So shut the fuck up, because your rage, anger, rules, and boundaries are meaningless and ineffectual.

Also, you are much more likely to give her hamster food that, really, comes on; you know she already barely tolerates you.

TRP says “remember, you are the prize”

Around here, most do not come in as “the prize”. Chances are, you are an entitled, weak minded faggot who only wants mom to open her legs for him because he needs the validation. Or, you know, since you can’t get a woman who knows you interested in fucking you, you go out and get some girl who doesn’t know you well enough to be disgusted by you, and you rape her,trick her, fool her into fucking you.

Go lift, go unfuck your life, own your shit, get you head right, stop fapping, stop asking for validation, be more than your paycheck, and then , when you have some value, you can try out the AA/AM and see how you do. Chances are, right now, you will do it badly, come off like an aspie retard , or get pulled into a fight you can’t win because you are a faggot.

What does it mean to shut the fuck up?

Ideally, you DO NOT literally not say anything at all.

You need to shut up about your feelings, demands, reasons, excuses, rights, entitlements and so on.

You NEED to maintain a range of usual civic CIVIL ( because I totes forgot English for a second) banter. You should ideally not let her get tipped off that you are “doing something” or “going through a process”, worse yet that you are “upset”.

The use of usual daily conversation keeps you from filling her head with more reasons to feel that you are a worthless POS male. Don’t worry; she has enough reasons to think this without your overt assistance.

There will be times when she does something so gut wrenchingly fucked up, especially as you are reading all about the reality in which you live, and other men’s stories, that you will not be able to help yourself. It’s ok. This is when you say nothing. Nothing at all. Breathe deep and walk away. Go for a drive, a walk, or go fishing. Whatever. She will likely test your shit when you come back. She will either do this overtly or will play games with the “silent treatment”. This is all BS, based on your failure to lead in the past. Understand this, smile, and give her whatever answer you want. You went for a walk. You went to the moon. You went to an alternate reality and saved the world, but got back in time for dinner, and speaking of which, where’s your steak?

You don’t really owe her an explanation—that is, unless you fucked up and did not do something important when you walked away. Even then, you do not owe her an explanation.

Feel free to engage with her, feel free to live your life, unencumbered by her voice in your ear telling you that you should really FIX how SHE feels. Feel free to treat her like the girl you met those years ago, or the girl you met down the block when you went for a walk. You know, the one who doesn’t know you are a faggot.

Thanks for reading.

Now go lift something.


[–]bogeyd6 19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

ProTip: You don't have to be gay to be a faggot.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dammit, must you always point out my faults!

[–]bogeyd6 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm like a fault ninja

[–]4delicioustreats 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But stfu, some of you are both

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

usual civic banter

Please do! Nothing makes my dick harder than talk of re-districting, comprehensive plan amendments or tax increment financing. Lol

Very nicely done you high flier

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

well fine, CIVIL

actually, corrected

thanks

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol don't mind me all this wifi is making me a monster

Finesse and subtlety are a challenge for a lot of guys (Lightheartedness too in the face of conflict is essential) so this is a good one.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

so you are saying that for some, CIVIC banter would be an upgrade... how insightful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

embrace your inner lowbrow

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He and I have gotten well acquainted this summer lol

[–]Sepean 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I gave her an astronomy quiz yesterday. She guessed the sun was made of neurons (yes, neurons, without a t). I'm pretty sure she A&A'd me, but it is hard to tell.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What about tax-abatements? That's some high grade civic porn for you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah that's what I'm talking about baby, you got me all half chub now

[–]bowhunter6 3 points4 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

I think this is easier said than done, depending on the type of wife you have. I am currently in monk mode (cut off contact with other side bitches, try to not speak much at home except to kids if at all possible). I have a serious shit-testing harpy that, when she wants to "talk", will follow me around yapping, demanding answers, demanding talk about feelz, demanding that I need to move out, go to counseling, whatever. When I decide to exit, she will follow me outside, stand behind the truck yapping until I literally have to slowly back into her to make her move.

STFU is no simple task when all you want to do is choke a bitch.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

She wants to talk because it is a win for her, and a lose for you.

If you could always win a game by making the other guy talk, what would you do.

If you learn to STFU, you might win a round, by not losing.

[–]UEMcGill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's easier than you think. You're just stuck in her sphere of influence. Because if you gave no fucks about her validation you could walk away really easy. Quit being a validation whore and your problem is solved.

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Fair point. Maybe some duct tape is in order.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not just the duct tape. that is effect. The real issue is the validation seeking that forces your mouth open to say stupid shit. Just like UEMcGill said.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

humble pie -- at least its Pie...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes warm apple humble pie……..

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

STFU is no simple task when all you want to do is choke a bitch.

Now imagine how she feels.

[–]Sadbeary 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

00

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You opened my eyes a bit there

[–]alphabeta49 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I have a serious shit-testing harpy that, when she wants to "talk", will follow me around yapping, demanding answers, demanding talk about feelz, demanding that I need to move out, go to counseling, whatever. When I decide to exit, she will follow me outside, stand behind the truck yapping until I literally have to slowly back into her to make her move.

Even MORE reason to STFU. Giving in and yapping back is fucking basting in her frame.

[–]A_Rex 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Seconded. Couple times with total STFU, and this shit stops.

Kids will stop throwing temper tantrums when they see that they do not achieve the desired result. Your wife will do likewise.

[–]bowhunter6 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I've been having success with it, but caved once last Sunday and shit got ugly. Had to peace out for a while (on my son's birthday no less). Came back later to give the kid his first bow and teach him how to shoot and resumed hero dad status for the day (to the kids anyway).

I can certainly see the merits of it, absolutely. As in most things, nothing worth doing is easy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes, whoever talks first loses. Simple

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

you're telling me that your wife has so much power over you that her talking can ruin your day? you're the type of person who will just willingly let other people's negative shit get inside your head and fuck with you? you can't even dictate your own reality? you're that spineless?

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes and no. After about 30 minutes of the chasing and nagging (we were getting ready for mass), yes it did piss me off. Once I rolled out and went to mass alone, I was fine the rest of the day. Still working on maintaining frame in the midst of the hurricane.

She did it again tonight for the last 45 minutes, and I had no issues, just laughed and pointed toward the door. I still have a long way to go.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

let's pretend everyone in the world is a jackass. every single fucker you interact with. that lady at the subway serving your ass, that guy driving next to you on the road, the stripper that you're tipping and trying to fuck - they all treat you like a total jackass, like you're a total piece of shit. would that ruin your day? it shouldn't, because who are those people anyway? so why is your wife any more special than your run of the mill jackass?

now if some random asshole on the street actually affects you - that's something mental exercises and meditation can work on.

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I like that way of looking at it.

[–]adesant88 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope you're doing good!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, yawn, my little harpy was on a 24 hour "talk" bender. Part of her "rolling thunder mini-main event" venue. Each of her ongoing mini-main events ends better for me. I really just don't say much anymore during these.

[–]nonnimoose 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

24 hour "talk" bender. Part of her "rolling thunder mini-main event"

I just have to say, this made me laugh out loud :)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now I laugh too.

The first "big event" and 24 hour talk bender was a year ago. There have been several since, including this one just ended. Yawn.

There finally comes a time that your mouth doesn't fly open when the bitch commands and she feelz better and more luvin' when it's over.

As said before (by others here), it's not a flaw but a programmed in feature designed for a man's pleasure…...

[–]Sadbeary 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a serious shit-testing harpy

Ditto.

I find myself swinging between "she is a narcissist" and "AWALT". Right now I am in the AWALT camp. To the points of the OP, she wasn't a harpy when we married...me being a faggot made her one. Accountability: I fucked her up. I need to unfuck her as it were. Work in progress.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'ts easier done than said.

you'll have to think up excuses, hamster all kinds of bullshit. doing it is easy, do nothing at all. You're a man, if you cant outrun a 30 something harpy, then you've got bigger issues.

It's like guys have never learned how to leave the fucking house or something

[–]bowhunter6 -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

LOL why would one need to run?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because your mouth pops open…...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

walk casually. Jesus

Is this on purpose, or was that a real question?

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It was a joke, dude.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

thank fuck

[–]redearththeory 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When I decide to exit, she will follow me outside, stand behind the truck yapping until I literally have to slowly back into her to make her move.

Park facing out. Or on the street. Take simple actions to change the playing field.

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm waiting for her to just lay across the hood next time, lol.

[–]redearththeory 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go spend 50 dollars and get an insanely loud horn installed. Or get a supersoaker and hose her down. She's going to act like a child, so treat her like one. Acta non verba.

[–]Sepean 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

When I decide to exit, she will follow me outside, stand behind the truck yapping until I literally have to slowly back into her to make her move.

Wait, she doesn't keep texting you that you're an asshole after you leave?

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh, she absolutely does, my friend. I just ignore it, though.

[–]Sepean 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, carry on. The main event will come.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

stand behind the truck yapping until I literally have to slow..

She isn't committed enough. she should have "made you" actually back up over her.

its like.. its almost like she doesn't really care... she isnt invested enough... I mean shit, does she actually care about what she is saying?

lol

[–]spexer 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

good post - goes well with my breakdown of the "STFU & Grin" guide for those that just took the red pill.

I would add another reason why to STFU - because it is better to let hamster do the talking... and it will explain it to her with all of her self-doubt and self consciousness spinning up her wheel in your favor.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was focused on the "why you shut up" at certain points of development and "get to" AA/AM or just plain state your point ( don't be a bitch) at others

[–]bogeyd6 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You bring out nostalgia in me. Many moons ago me and /u/stonepimpletilists argued about whether STFU or Lifting was the most important. We never came to a conclusion. Stone is the most respected person I know on MRP, and to this day I cannot agree that STFU is more imporant than lifting. Maybe, they go hand in hand.

[–]ford_contour 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're right. Lift > STFU.

I've seen ripped idiots in the wild doing okay, in spite of not knowing when to shut up.

That said SFTU takes way less time to implement, heh.

[–]spexer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

definitely hand in hand...the strong silent type, right?

i think we all agree the worst combination is the chatterbox in the gym when you are worshiping the iron temple.

[–]Sepean 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a man who got dead bedroomed even though he lifted and could do a chinup with his wife on his back, I'd put my money on STFU. I was at 16-17% BF though (at my wife's request, she complained about "gaunt cheeks" when I got leaner; somehow she doesn't mind now).

There's a the last piece of the puzzle is the most important effect but I don't see guys with frame who don't lift get dead bedroomed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Way I saw it. You can lift, and it's always good, but don't lift, nothing changes

you can open your mouth and fuck things right up. I've never seen a post in here of a guy saying something is fucked because he missed a PR. I have seen a guy in here talk like a woman and get bitchslapped by his frumpy soccer mom wife.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

STFU> lifting

the feelz generated by faggotry can not be overridden by great muscles and physique.

The feelz generated solid frame and stfu can overcome all but the most obese male... even sometimes then... or so I hear the fat drug lords tell me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

and no quoting random statistics to justify your lack of action.

Blaming economists for your weak faggotry is the weakest faggotry.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

98% of faggotty interactions occurs during the diurnal phase of the day and is achieved by 81.3% of straight men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bullshit. @--))) hairlip cyclops giggle

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nahah - tru science

[–]Persaeus 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Really great post. Newbs are generally afraid of wife's emotions , more advanced guys DGAF (there her responsibility), masters see her emotions as an opportunity to generate tingles.

I see an analogy between playing with fire and her emotions. STFU is you getting out of the fire ring. AM is you adding wood to fire, and A&A is you pouring gas on the fire. Only a fool adds gas while standing in the fire ring.

[–]Gus_Buckeye1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

If only the lost souls on Deadbedrooms would just give this shit a try. They'd rather keep spinning their wheels though.

I sent one guy over there a long personal message about just browsing MRP and seeing if anything clicks. He never responded and I see he's still over there talking about therapy and how he's the only one who has actually improved from it. Shocker.

Can't save them all but I assumed he would at least explore all avenues. Hopefully he shows up when he realizes that DB advice won't help.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes just posting a link to this sub over there is enough. That's how I found this place. Thank God.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

you do not owe her an explanation

Still catch myself on this sometimes. Brings me back to this guy's post where he finally asks: Is 'because I wanted to' an acceptable response to 'why did you (blank)'?

Yes...yes it is.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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