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Party of the Century

 

When I was in college I was a decent engineering student, and an even better partier. I spent my fair share of weekends drunk at football games and crashing frat parties for dirty sorority girls; “Why yes I’m in a frat, it’s called Delta Tau Chi.” Me and some bros got the idea to put together an epic house party. This would be a theme party on a grandiose scale of Boon and Otter. Kegs to be had, women galore, human sacrifices, it was going to be the highest level of debauchery. I had just broken up with a long term relationship (She said she loved me, but wasn’t in love; epic foreshadowing), and I was a man with no commitments.

 

We hatched a plan, created a theme and in order to entice people there we offered free beer. I made up a few flyers with the shitty free university copier and handed them out to key people. “First two kegs on us just come dressed! Tonight’s theme: 70’s disco. Party starts 10 pm.” I invited a few people, including a couple of the sorority sisters who lived next door to me and my roommate. What was supposed to be a fun bash of maybe 60 people, turned into 200, at least. The first two kegs were gone by 11 pm. 70’s disco somewhere morphed into pimps and ho’s; any costume event is really about how women can dress slutty without being judged. My ex showed up with some guy, but I hadn’t a care in the world, as she walked by me she was on ignore because I was busy trying to bed not one but two ADP’s (we called them Another Dirty Pussy behind their back for good reason). By 2 am the party spilled out into the yard next to the house and a total of 6 kegs were had in the end. I remember talking to a guy and he was like “This is crazy we heard about it on the other side of campus, I don’t even know whose party this is!” Somewhere around 4 the police showed up and the party fizzled out under the advice of the men in blue. Me? I didn’t care because I closed and was proceeding to treat my new friend from ADP like a farm animal. Unfortunately I couldn’t close the deal on both of them, but I didn’t care, one would have to be enough tonight. I woke up somewhere around noon with her naked next to me and the smell of eggs cooking. I put some shorts on and went to the kitchen to find a girl completely unknown to me wearing one of my t-shirts and not much else, cooking said eggs. Looking around I saw a couple curled up on the floor and two more girls in the same outfit; “when the fuck did people start raiding my t-shirts?” was all I could think. My buddy I planned the party with had hooked up with an old crush, I had banged a nice slutty chick, and my ex left early in a huff, because she wasn’t the center of attention. It took 2 days to clean up the mess, I lost 4 t-shirts (I don’t know why they were needed or how it got that point) and a week later we got a stern warning from the land lord that any damage done to the property would come off our deposit.

 

I went to class the next week and ran into people I hardly recognized, all congratulating me on and epic party. I got a promise to hook up again with the ADP and I literally felt like big man on campus. Things went back to normal, the ADP chick was crazy and slutty and fizzled out, but all in all it was a good couple of months. My buddy and I hatched another plan; repeat the party.

 

This time we’d start off with 3 kegs so we didn’t have to drive to the beer store so early again. Instead of 70’s it would be a toga party, and it was going to be awesome. I made up fliers, hit up the same people and we waited for the epicness to commence.

 

Only this time it didn’t work the same. By 2 am we still had almost 2 full kegs. My ex came and went, this time she left saying “oh, blah blah blah is having a bash over on such and such” and left taking 10 people with her. The other ADP I hadn’t closed with at the previous party showed up and split within 5 minutes, and left with a majority of the talent. By the end of the night we maybe had 50 people; funny because it would have been a good party in its own right but the expectations of the night far outgrew the reality of it. We ended up having a weekend long party where people would come and go, maybe 4 or 5 at a time, just to get rid of the beer. I couldn’t understand what was different. We literally had the same ingredients to success as the last time, save it was a little later in the semester (it was a large southern school so it was still quite seasonable).

 

In my entire college career I’d been to maybe 5 or 6 of those kinds of parties. The kind of party where you run into acquaintances 20 years later and they speak fondly of it, “Hey McGill I still remember the 70’s party, I got the clap but it was worth it (true story)!”

 

In MRP we oft use the axiom from Rollo about rooting around in the garbage in front of neighbors. It’s a good analogy of why you don’t go back to failed relationships.

 

Iron Rule of Tomassi #7: It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbor’s see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.

 

In the case of LTR’s this still applies, but I’d also postulate a corollary to that you can never relive a party.

 

You Can Never Relive a Party Corollary

 

There’s a post from a guy on MRP about his struggles with opiate addiction and how he feels he let his unicorn get away. Now he got the right advice and there’s a lot more going on than just rooting around in the garbage or trying to relive a party, but the idea still applies for those of us that are in a LTR or married. No matter where you are in your marriage, the past has no bearing on the future. You can never relive the party, whether it was the epic slut-sex she gave you when you first started dating or how she was a good submissive girl willing to follow your every whim, you can’t recreate that feeling of when she did those things for you. I think Rollo has a good point, and that’s when shit is broke don’t waste effort to fix it that effort can be better spent elsewhere. Often in a LTR there is a want to get back to basics, get back to the early days. There may not be a need to next, but just reset. In this case it is not about being broke, it’s about some fantasy of reliving that epic party that was the beginning of your relationship. So many men come on here and complain and daydream that “If they could just get back to where they were before they fucked everything up” life would be grand again.

 

Our first party was new and innovative. People had never been to something like that before (at least college kids in the early 90’s). The second one was a copycat and hindsight showed people saw it for what it was. When you as a man are approaching your relationship trying to unfuck it, you need to be cognizant of what the future holds. You can never relive a party, so too can you never relive a relationship. It takes a big man to realize that he is rebuilding his relationship anew and frankly my personal advice is if kids aren’t involved the default option should always be next. TRP and MRP are at discord because of this very fact, and even though I’m the first to tell a guy to move on, I’ve battled years of trying to relive a party. I’ve made the value judgment that the effort is worth it to stay because the cost would be too great otherwise. Kids make a compelling excuse to get back that mojo, but it takes a lot of leadership to say, “I can’t make it like it was, but I can make it better whatever that means”. The real work comes in finding out what it is that makes it better.

 

We know it starts with you, you need to become compelling and people will want to be around you. Maybe that’s your wife, maybe it’s your new LTR. Have a new party for what it is, not what it was. Let go of the expectations of getting back to the past and instead embrace what the future may hold, regardless of how it turns out. By time I graduated, I’d been to a bunch of awesome parties. Some were no more than 10 people, but truly the best memories of my life. If I had chased that elusive “giant kegger” my whole college career I’d have been really disappointed. Instead I had a series of great experiences that in sum total add up to more than that one party. I've let go of the past in my marriage too, and found myself better off for it because of that.


[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Good post. At first I started to roll my eyes thinking you were just bragging about the glory days, then Bam! Hit me with the deep shit. This is great for those who want to continue on and aren't on the verge of jumping ship.

[–]alphabeta49MRP APPROVED10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can’t make it like it was, but I can make it better whatever that means

So simple to say, so fucking hard to do. Swallowing my expectations for her based on her past self and letting go of that ideal I have built in my mind is the toughest thing I've ever had to do - and I'm still doing it, making that decision almost daily. The saggy boobs, mommy pooch, kid distractions, ball and chain, compromises, lifestyle limitations, real life shit that gets in the way of being awesome... that's tough to accept. I have a hard time with it, often.

But what, I leave my kids fatherless because I'm not haaaaapppy? Absolutely crush my wife for no goddamn reason because my dick has a fantasy and I can't help but seek validation from random women?

No.

It's time to grow up and do the tough - but rewarding - thing.

Fuck the past. Fuck regrets. Fuck all the wistful sighing for what could have been (but probably wouldn't have been because I was a fucking pussy). Learn from the past, sure. Yada yada. But I'm building my life NOW. I will not waste precious time looking backwards. I'm liable to run into a grave lined with regret if I'm not careful.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this post, REALLY.

daydream that “If they could just get back to where they were before they fucked everything up”

Right between my eyes, KO.

The real work comes in finding out what it is that makes it better.

It is work because it requires the abandonment of sunk cost and death of ego, all while maintaining a positive IMAGINATION. Hard Suicide mode.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We are dealing with expectations here, and expectations are killers. This is what stops you from improving, you are expecting to have the same or better results by just pitching up.

I had a rule as a youngster, if I went to a pub or club and had an amazing night out, I wouldn't go back to that place. It would always be a disappointment going back.

You and your wife had an amazing holiday in abc ? Do not try and relive it, it will never live up to your expectation. You cannot recreate the atmosphere that lead you to having a great holiday. Take her to a new destination. Find something new.

[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Great post.

The thing is, so much is out of our control. There are so many other factors that have nothing to do with us and either are completely random or might as well be.

Whatever happens is the combined result of you interacting with everything else, and with us being the smaller part we can't control much.

What we can do is adapt. Find options and opportunities as events unfold. Going by a formulaic approach (recreating the last party, relying on canned shit test responses) will never work as well as having the skill, experience and insight to adapt and overcome, maybe even innovate.

Nicholas Taleb invented the concept of being anti-fragile - not just resilient but able to grow when put under stress. This is the essential property of frame, and the difference between PUA and red pill. The more you're tested, the more you shine. Some of the vets speak of shit tests as foreplay, and I see what they mean. When everything is running smoothly, frame is much less noticable.

We shouldn't just stop trying to recreate the past. We should stop trying to shape our environment according to any set plan, and instead focus on becoming adaptive and anti-fragile so we can overcome problems and exploit opportunities.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

concept of being anti-fragile

The #1 trait for any dad to pass on to his children.

[–]ex_addict_broDivorced - MRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hi there fellow Taleb fan!

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My fourteen year old daughter and I had a talk last month about boys and sex. #1 rule - we never dig in our trash, trying to recreate what fizzled out or what was not meant to be.

Days are gone and so is the past. If the SO or LTR can't live with the changes and it disolves, its ok, you can still relive the great times, but IT IS time to create new ones, with or without the LTR or SO and as stated, trying to re-create is impossible.

Time to drill Iron Rule #7 into the 11 year olds head as his voice is a changin'...... and hair is growing on his legs

As for me, I will always remember to avoid re-creating keg smashers

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The beginning of my relationship with my wife was a fucking awesome party. It happened because I was successful with my own efforts, with myself.

MRP says they can only save the man. The party is a byproduct of a man's success.

[–]Dobiegillistein1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess it's about like a house that's been blown down by a tornado. Yes, maybe the foundation is still good but needs a little repair but the rest of the house needs to be bulldozed and hauled away so a new structure can be built. No sense and trying to use the material that was mangled or destroyed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shacker shirts and Alpha Delta Pi. Lol. Rah Delt. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Good lesson too.

[–]redearththeory0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You Can Never Relive a Party Corollary

I have observed a consistent pattern in my life: the first time a new scary/exciting thing happens to me, its awesome and when I try to recreate it the second time (but this time with my design) its crap. First job was great, second was crap. First kickboxing fight was epic, second was crap. First girl was great fun, second was lame. I think there is something about going with the flow of the universe the first time vs my shity little plans the second time.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

First job was great, second was crap. First kickboxing fight was epic, second was crap. First girl was great fun, second was lame

First wife was great, second was crap..........

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you have a second one if the first was great?

[–]BigAjax0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great post, really helps clarify some things that have been kicking around my head for a while. In my own case, I have a very bad tendency to dwell on and to want to relive great times from the past, and to find a routine that will somehow (magically) produce moments just-like-that on the reg in the present. This has led to stagnation in critical parts of my life, despite marked advances on multiple other fronts. I'm virtually certain it's a large part of why my wife can tell me that I'm so awesome while her snatch stays as dry as the Sahara. I'm struggling to break out of this rut without coming off as a lame try-hard. The first step in that seems to be to genuinely let go of the expectations of getting back to the past. Probably the only way to do that, though, is to come up with a clear picture of what I want from the future that does not start from my ties to the past, and to focus ruthlessly on that. That should crowd out all the pining for the past.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The first step in that seems to be to genuinely let go of ALL the expectations of getting back to the past.

Having a vision is great, but expectations (or more accurately covert contracts) on a daily or minute by minutes basis is the real Drierite(TM) for the wife. She can sense your lack of Frame.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve battled years of trying to relive a party. I’ve made the value judgment that the effort is worth it to stay because the cost would be too great otherwise.

Trying to relive that party is hard for me to get past. The memories of the "giant kegger" moments with my wife are very compelling. You make a strong case that living in the past is not ever going to work and is a poor source of inspiration for dealing with, or rationalizing not dealing with, the issues of today.

“I can’t make it like it was, but I can make it better whatever that means”. The real work comes in finding out what it is that makes it better.

Yes this, hits it for me. Thanks.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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