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First, this is a brand new account. My wife has made a habit of going through my 'old' account, and I'd rather not have that happen anymore. I don't care so much about the questions, or occasional shit tests (I'm a child?!?). I care more about the loss of the mystery and mystique that can be laid bare when my wife sees the playbook. I want her to see the product, not the process. It ruins the fun for both of us.



Before the Pill

A buddy early last year introduced me to TRP and at first I thought it was because, in theory, I had a traditional view of marriage. It turns out that I was actually a sad sack. My life was riddled with covert contracts.

If I do the dishes, take out the trash, mow the lawn, AND clean the living room there's no way I don't get a blowie.

If I do the laundry, run her a bath, massage her feet, and get a babysitter for the kids then she'll have to cheer up and be nice to me.

I'm pretty sure most of what I did involved a covert contract one way or another. A lot of it was steeped in validation seeking as well. I didn't have real confidence in myself, outside of my massively bloated ego, so I pulled in validation like iron shavings to a magnet. I was such a nice guy though! I did everything I was supposed to for my wife. I put her on a golden pedestal and treated her like a goddess. Looking back, it's no wonder she treated me like a dirty peon.

She tried her best to mask that though, and I was blind to it for a long time. We would fight constantly, fuck rarely, and every day was spent walking on familiar egg shells to avoid familiar fights. It wasn't all about her, just most of it. I had a go-nowhere job that I was losing interest in. I had video games and tv shows to pull me out of the depressing world I had made for myself. Sometimes I would be productive and read a book, but that was happening less and less.

Fitness? What fitness? I was skinny fat. I had love handles and was getting a gut, but I was still "skinny". I was told that I was "filling out" and that I looked good. Bullshit, even I knew I was getting ugly. I started doing a little cardio, but that was it. "Muscle men" tended to be dicks anyway, and that wasn't me.



A New Start?

When I found out what a shit test was, I was enlightened. It's not like my eyes were suddenly opened, or like this new idea was pretty cool. It was monk-setting-himself-on-fire inspiration. I practiced A&A which came pretty naturally, after the first few days. I'm a sarcastic guy with a dry sense of humor as it is already. My favorite joke will always be a pun. A&A is my forte, and it works so well. After seeing some progress, I hurried back to TRP and devoured as much information as I could. I came across MRP and saw some guys that actually meant business. I picked up NMMNG and read it like a madman. Then the next book. I was basically reading a collection of advice my grandfather had given me over the years, without the Disney-tainted nonsense. Happy wife = happy life reversed. I started doing things for myself. I practiced saying no. I bought a weight bench, dumbbells, etc and started working out a few days a week. I went from skinny fat to fit and stronger. I'm not huge yet, but I have much more muscle, broader shoulders, a chest that's shaping into a barrel, etc.

I was still an egotistical, validation-seeking twit, but I was improving. My wife's attitude started turning around too. She was happier, stopped drinking so much, stopped saying "ILYBINILWY" types of things, and it was nice. I stepped it up more and more with working out, improving my life, and started to look at myself more critically. My ego was shrinking, my confidence growing, and my wife found my reddit account-

That was a record scratch. I was maybe 5 months into it when she first found out about fight club. I left it up on my computer, and she read it. And read it. And read it. Boy, when I got home I had some 'splaining to do! I was nervous as shit. I had read warnings about not letting the wife see anything here, that it's welcoming shit tests, etc. Over the course of that month I found that the more I addressed (read: validated) her concerns, the worse her attitude was. The more I fogged and joked it off, the better her attitude was. It was like she was waiting for my cue as to what to act like. Should she be a harpy? Or a happy wife? Fuck- I was getting a dose of the leader/submissive wife dynamic. I was becoming a container that she could conform to.

The more I improved, the better I looked, the smaller my ego became, the more we fucked. I started getting unsolicited blow jobs. I would be starting a bench workout and she would pull my shorts down, straddle, and ride as I did a set. It was like she took some magic always-wet pill and I had more sex than I knew what to do with. I remember reading field reports here, and on TRP, about this very thing and thinking they were full of shit. Some of them probably still were, but not all of them. That was now apparent.



Today

I still have work to do. A lot of work. A lifetime of work. I'm happier now though. I feel better. Stronger, and confident. I'm working on leaving my job now for something new and better. I have an interview next week, and I've been testing for the last two months now. My wife and I have frequent sex, though of course it could always be more frequent, and better. She's becoming a very good, peaceful wife. We're filling the leader/submissive marriage paradigm out nicely. She started working out and eating right after seeing the progress I was making.

Of course, this is only a condensed version of my story. I didn't talk about how angry I was, how helpless I felt at times, or how depressed I was when I found out that she couldn't love me the way I love her. I didn't talk about how I went from focusing on her to just on myself- that part is in the books. The only reason my life is better now, the only reason I'm happy now, is because I put in the work. I logged the hours, and put in every effort.

I read the material. I read the posts. I read the books. I reread. I practiced what they said. I reread. I practiced and I read. Practice makes perfect, and reading hones the practice. Lifting helped give me a more patient and stoic attitude. Reading the posts and comments here nearly every day helped me stay grounded and focused in what I was doing. I still have an ego. I still need a better social circle. I still need to improve certain hobbies. I'm nowhere near perfect, but I'm happy. And I'm confident that my life now is a better one, and that I'll be even happier 5 years from now.

If you're not sure if the red pill is right for you, if it will "work", you need to remember one thing. You are working for yourself, building a better man. Don't do any of this to make a woman happy. Don't do it to impress all the internet alphas. Do it because you want to be a better man, and live a better life. Or don't and be a faggot. It's up to you.


[–]sexyshoulderdevil 25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

OMG. What a pathetic piece of shitlord you've become. How fucking dare you start to get in shape, work on your career, stop doing shit around the house ONLY in return for sex, and becoming a masculine foil for your wife's feminine wiles. Gawd damn it. This place is out if control... If wives start fucking husbands like you're describing, sitcoms will run out of dumb husband tropes to play against...think of all the Hollywood jobs you're taking away. They'll be forced to reboot 'All In The Family' and cast a new Archie Bunker...maybe. No...we can't have any of this...at...all.

[–]bad--apple10 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

But everybody loves Raymond!

Don't forget how much that means I'm abusing my wife either! She's not happier, it's just Stockholm Syndrome. I took responsibility over all the finances and most of the grocery shopping. She has to let a man pay the bills and eat the disgusting healthy shit I bring home!

[–]sexyshoulderdevil 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

My righteous indignation in spewing forth in rhythmetic spurts and gathering in a pool of goopy misogyny. It feels sooo good to get this out...

[–]over60_stupid_loner1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I really tried to visualize this. Too much. Hurts.

[–]sexyshoulderdevil 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That pain is just me rooting my penis finger around the moist, warm parts of your...brain...

[–]over60_stupid_loner1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

OK 75% Liquid sarcasm, 25% mind fuck.. :) ouch

[–]sexyshoulderdevil 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha, I actually LOLed...

[–]BluepillProfessor 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It was like she was waiting for my cue as to what to act like. Should she be a harpy? Or a happy wife?

I think this was the moment when you "got it." Water...meet container. They totally ping off their environment. If you are a stressed out dick, guess how she will start acting. Men have the ability to decouple their reactions to people around them provided they have strong beliefs (i.e. frame). Women....they can have every bit as much intellectual frame as a man and much of the psychological frame. Emotional frame? Not so much. They depend on their environment to determine their mood!! Who knew, right?

[–]sh0ckley 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Totally. I realized recently that after I've screwed something up, most of the time if I just suddenly smile and pretend it never happened - she'll tag right along. It goes against all logic but confirmed this again last night. There was agitation, so I paused then said something funny and smiled, pretending to act in a way that I wasn't feeling with all my energy and it worked. Then I actually felt normal again too. Almost. Very strange but true. Female emotional response goes where ever I allow it to go. Their memory of what they were feeling a minute ago is almost zero and can be leveraged to both parties advantage! That said, I'm not very good at it... yet.

[–]bad--apple2 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

It takes time, and practice. I don't really understand how the emotions of the current second are reality over whatever else might be going on, but I'm not afraid of using that to my advantage (and hers) like you said.

[–]sh0ckley 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Understanding" would be "rational" ...and masculine lol

[–]trp_dude 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only reason my life is better now, the only reason I'm happy now, is because I put in the work. I logged the hours, and put in every effort.

Bravo

[–]CaladhanBrood 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

First, this is a brand new account. My wife has made a habit of going through my 'old' account, and I'd rather not have that happen anymore. I don't care so much about the questions, or occasional shit tests (I'm a child?!?). I care more about the loss of the mystery and mystique that can be laid bare when my wife sees the playbook. I want her to see the product, not the process. It ruins the fun for both of us.

Consider using your old account for other subs, and maybe even to post the odd comment on MRP (preferably when none of your threads from the new account are on the front page). It'll stop her suspecting you've created a new account and you can continue making the magic happen without her seeing it.

I would be starting a bench workout and she would pull my shorts down, straddle, and ride as I did a set.

Jotted down in my Relationship Goals Notebook.

Always good to hear a success story! Keep on climbing. All the best.

[–]bad--apple1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a really good idea, I think I'll do that. Thanks!

[–]anonymoustrper 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

https://redditenhancementsuite.com/ . This can help you manage multiple accounts. I use it, though I'm not active on other accounts.

[–]tazack 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Forgive me as I'm new here. I feel as though this is exactly what I need in my life and have actually begun focusing more on myself (fitness, eating healthy, hobbies, job search etc). What are those acronyms you used? What books are you referring to?

Again, I'm brand new, so at least what direction to I go to find the breakdown of the MRP?

Your story was insanely inspirational.

[–]sexyshoulderdevil 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Look to your right of this webpage and you will see the Sidebar. --->

Read all of that.

Sort all the posts in this subreddit by the top ones.

Read all of that.

[–]lionmenden 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If people are on the mobile client, the sidebar is hidden. A lot never know it's here if they browse on mobile only. Either find the hidden menu option on your mobile client, or check from a PC.

[–]bogeyd6 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Buy three books.

  1. No More Mister Nice Guy by Robert Glover
  2. Saving a Low Sex Marriage Book by Bluepill Professor
  3. Married Man Sex Life Primer by Athol Kay

Get a gym membership and start Stronglifts 5x5 or Wendler's 5/3/1 program. You literally dont need to worry about anything else for the next couple months.

[–]Boesman12 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Start by reading the wiki. Then shut the fuck up about anything while you start reading the sidebar.

Lurk here, read posts and comments. See why some posts are low quality from low quality guys and some, like this one, is valuable.

Post questions in ASKMRP. Don't go telling your wife that you found the oracle and things will change from now on and you demand her respect.

Read, lift, lift, lift. shut the fuck up.

Thats about it.

[–]spexer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

welcome - here is my elevator pitch for MRP which gives you a concise breakdown and first steps - and more importantly, get to reading the leftside and lifting!

[–]eggsbachs 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

First time in sub, first post read. Already hooked. Awesome thread, real awesome. Thanks for sharing man.

[–]bogeyd6 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome. I hope you find the stories here horrifying, inspirational, and deeply relevant to your situation.

[–]Redneck001 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Somebody's cutting onions, my eyes are watering

[–]bogeyd6 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me an old joke.

  1. To stop crying while cutting onions, chew bubble gum.
  2. To stop crying in other situations, stop being a little bitch.

[–]bogeyd6 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You finally see the light. I remember we had a conversation about this very same. My wife can read my shit, and I am somehow hamstering why that's ok. You lose more than that. You lose authenticity. Simple as that. You got some gainz in the gym. Now its time to get some gainz in life.

You broke the initial covert contract. For that I applaud you.

[–]cdogg75 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What would you say is the best source of reading? So far I have read NMMNG, MMSLP and a bunch of sidebar articles. Did anything have more impact to you than others?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

I believe is was /u/seapan who had a nose wife print off his history here.

[–]bad--apple1 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Or was it /u/Countpudyoola here?

/u/Sepean 's wife also found MRP though

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I briefly used a separate account , but for me found that to not work either.

If she wants to spy in the locker room ... that's on her. It also keeps me from posting things on a whim I wouldn't also say IRL. WYSIWYG with me.

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[–]bad--apple1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I said the same thing, and wound up being fine. As /u/bogeyd6 said in an earlier comment, you lose authenticity. You lose that veil of mystery and some of the fun (for a while).

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as that's all she gets- you will be fine

You had rock frame with that - so don't change

[–]dandar4600 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here. I haven't tried using a separate account though I have thought about it.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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