Why would any woman complain about MRP?

[deleted] · 2016-03-10T04:31:21+00:00

The jargon... it's all about the jargon.

Oh and Chad's are supposed to just be born, not created.

SexistFlyingPig · 2016-03-10T00:57:15+00:00

The only reason is because it takes all of the power in the relationship away from the woman.

Then again, If you're the woman, you get an awesome guy who has everything taken care of to run around with.

40mullet · 2016-03-10T09:53:19+00:00

because becoming MRP guy is like any other new years resolution, only few will succeed. Other 90% act tough couple of months, gets his wife´s hopes up, and eventually turn back to their old habits. Real work begins after sidebar and does not end with first anal.

wakethfkupneo · 2016-03-10T01:35:57+00:00

Because power shifts to man. And that freaks them out.

You know what makes compulsive gamblers compulsive? Dopamine rush when they suddenly win. This is how they get hooked. But this is not the point. My real point is: you know who the luckiest roulette players are? Those who sit at the table for the first time and lose. Then they try again and lose. No dopamine. And one last time and once again they lose. And they say 'fuck this' and never play again. Those are THE LUCKIEST roulette players. Their loss is minimal, insignificant in global scheme of things, no matter what they think at the moment. Their mind cannot comprehend that those who win big in the beginning are the unluckiest sobs, about to enter the nightmare with the potential to lose everything. At best they'll struggle with gambling impulses, at worst ... I'm sure you've read/heard/seen many tragic stories.

Can you imagine gambler wannabe, without any knowledge about gambling addiction and mathematical odds rigged against him, accepting that losing over and over till he gives up is the best possible outcome?

Can you imagine woman accepting that giving all power to man will make her happy? Sure, there are few of them in RPW. But these days with rampant feminism their numbers are statistically irellevant.

[deleted] · 2016-03-10T14:03:55+00:00

Go ask TBP. You'll probably get a wonderful set of answers. then read and lurk here, see if it has merit.

Having said that TRP makes it very easy to hate. anger phase is a thing, sure... cheering guys on who absolve responsability and just point out every stupid woman on the internet is a horrible crab bucket (though entertaining)

When I say TRP, I generally mean the low quality guys (out of 140k) who go there to generally be malcontent. the ones who get their shit together and improve are usually great content, but it's largely drowned out. Even the subs creator admits that the place will be full of mostly failures.

BluepillProfessor · 2016-03-10T06:37:43+00:00

Because 90% of men are really bad at it. A man who is naturally capable, dominant and charming will never have a power struggle with his wife. If RP isn't working for you guys, it's because your wife isn't an idiot and can see you poorly playing a part.

A beta guy acting like a beta is just bleh. A beta guy wearing an alpha hat and trying to order you around is disgusting.

cholomite · 2016-03-10T00:50:38+00:00

It's easier to have a beta under your control than it is to keep an alpha committed to you. Plus women know their value plummets after 30, the last thing they want is to have to worry about their new alpha getting eyed up from all the hot 20yr olds.

[deleted] · 2016-03-10T01:00:20+00:00

LOL! If that was the case then it would be front page of mainstream media. MRP is about yourself first, and the wife second. She is just gets the benefit of being in your halo.

scarletspider3 · 2016-03-10T05:42:29+00:00

You still don't really understand women. Women want to optimize hypergamy as much as possible. That means narrowing their choice as much as possible to exclude the betas, not to help betas become alphas. They see any dating advice for men that actually works as manipulative. They want to trick the betas to reveal themselves with bad advice or program them to better serve the feminine imperative.

Not to mention that the feminist are out to sexually handicap men. They are against manspreading. Which is basically telling men not to display dominance, ie to make them unattractive. They push for yes means yes to make men ask and beg instead of being sexually dominant, ie make them unattractive.

It's all to make sure that only alphas get to have sex and betas only get to be used as ATM's. They are not out to help men, not even women in the long run, but they don't have the farsightedness to realize it.

NiftyDolphin · 2016-03-10T15:22:41+00:00

Look at the list through the eyes of a woman with a schlub husband or boyfriend:

"He'll lose weight? That's great! Not that I don't wuv my widdle teddy-bear. Heh heh hurrnnnnn.. He'll lose weight, right? And if he get's new clothes then I get new clothes too! I think that's fair."

"He'll try even harder to please me in bed? Grrreeeeeeaat!"

"I can say no as much as I want and he won't do anything? Yuuussssss!"

"He's going to even MORE(or in some cases, any) chores! More Facebook time for me!"

"If I occasionally lose control and give him a hard time he'll take the blame? SIGN ME UP!"

"If I don'ts wansta, I ain't gotsta! <sing_song>Loving it!</sing_song>"

"If he's not happy after a year he'll leave me and be this improved person for someone else. Wait, WHAT?"

Women who don't have men that are improving themselves don't like this because of number eight. Number eight is a big, bright, flashing neon sign that reads, "You will also have to improve yourself to keep your man. If you don't, he may leave you."

The list may hold a bevy of improvements for their relationship, but it contains a threat: that every positive their man makes could lead him to dissolving their relationship.

Edit: reworded to remove excessive bullshit projection on my part.

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2016-03-10T01:49:04+00:00

Satire? Have you had a blow to the head today?

Sepean · 2016-03-12T23:28:30+00:00

First, there's the regular of elements of shit testing, keeping her beta compliant, etc. The process isn't going to be easy even if she'll ultimately end up happier (because your list is mostly accurate).

Secondly, there's the question of her knowing about MRP. Girls aren't like men who are perfectly happy that our girls cheat themselves into their SMV with makeup and implants. Girls want genuine alphas, not beta posers who read a guide. If she becomes cognisant of MRP you'll lose perceived alpha. And all the stuff about dread games, killing your oneitis, knocking women of their piedestal etc. she'll read that and see that you also lost a shitload of beta.

There's a lot not to like. My wife knows of MRP and has accepted much of it and she's gone RPW, and she still gets worked up whenever she strays into MRP.

I guess it is like watching sausages getting made, it ruins your enjoyment of an excellent end product.

neocelt · 2016-03-10T01:13:34+00:00

no. 6, disagree. sometimes a bitch is a bitch and all the work in the world aint going to change her.

as my mom used to say, "get a bloody good look at her mother."

BluepillProfessor · 2016-03-10T07:04:32+00:00

what's not to like if you're a woman?

Red Pill is different than /r/relationshits because we identify and discuss female behavior and motivations. We lay bare the bullshit that women do.

You left out a couple things. First, Shit Test responses- which I put as Dread Level 1 for a reason. Some chicks become practically epileptic denying and deflecting on female shit tests. Second: POWER! TRP/MRP teaches men the cardinal rule of relationships and many other techniques for seizing power from women in relationships.

How could most women do anything BUT hate us? We talk directly and logically and irrefutably about female oppression of men and it does the worst thing possible you can do to women. Sure you can beat some women and they come crawling back like dogs like it doesn't matter. Maybe some of them like it? The one thing you CANNOT do to a woman is take away her victim status card and MRP/TRP does that in spades.

War2kali · 2016-03-10T02:21:28+00:00

You are correct that there are tangible benefits to both parties. There's a lot of win-win here.

Tollanador · 2016-03-10T03:49:43+00:00

It's because they read only the surface of TRP and don't look into MRP and don't bother to see what it's really about. Then they hit the internet and scream WHAT TRP IS REALLY ABOUT!11one

Oh, and people like me give it a bad name when we are just starting and failing. Sorry about that.

MRPguy · 2016-03-10T15:52:58+00:00

I don't have time to read all the comments, this may have been said.

They will complain when a many does each step half-way and they announces that MRP sucks. No, MRP doesn't suck, you only took half-measures.

SDSAM21 · 2016-03-10T16:19:42+00:00

This was my thought exactly as I went through the anger phase. Then, I realized the boss man said "You shall live by the sweat of you brow.". He didn't say you shall suckle the nipple all your days. MRP destroys the lies of the soul sucking and cultural slow death of the FI.

lostalex7 · 2016-03-12T13:48:58+00:00

because most men on TRP think they are putting way more effort into it than they actually are, and they expect their wives to put in all the effort. Most men think they can just use it to make their wives change without actually changing themselves.

ford_contour · 2016-03-12T14:41:40+00:00

To answer your question:

Lots of guys find RP and just discover NMMNG, and then end their marriage by being an asshole. While we have philosophies in place that could prevent that (i.e. try it for a year), since we're still a branch of RP philosophy, we get some credit for the bad outcomes.

To address the list of what women could love about MRP:

Absolutely. It's magical. It's particularly great when applied to high value women.

But just like magic and Hollywood, it's more fun for her if she doesn't know the formula.

And one point with your list: the wording on 8 is way off.

Step 8 is: Do this for a year or more, then decide if you are done with this relationship. If so, end it with class and without discussion.

_SexMetalBarbie_ · 2016-03-10T03:28:15+00:00

The biggest struggle I face is with not seeing my SO as a friend. Ultimately, it may be the one issue that keeps me from being willing to become a full fledged rpw.

[deleted] · 2016-03-10T14:42:32+00:00

Control. power. It certainly brings the struggle to light doesn't it?

Personally I don't see things in that light any more, rather I strive to balance my wife. Yin/Yang. Too much of one unbalances the whole.

This is why the anger phase is the most damaging to men. Too much Yang. Strive for balance. This is also why MRP is not about subservience but about submission. It's not about domination but being dominate.

It's the truth of things.

But MRP is far easier to digest then trying to just say yin yang. So ignore that. MRP gives the road map. Understand how you will. For me yin yang makes complete sense now.

I am man.

She is woman.

That's all there is. Does there need to be more?

trapped_in_a_box · 2016-03-10T05:22:53+00:00

RPW likes you guys just fine. :)

ThumpNuts · 2016-03-10T17:05:25+00:00

...

Wait a minute...

I was born "red pill" and since I've been married, I've lived my life according to this list [without being aware of it] naturally for years, but I have a couple of critical differences:

I do these things for myself and to keep my social value high to aid in "dread game" and because I like being treated better than most people.
Developed this trait through lots of practice and because I get off and getting her off - that's just what makes me tick... I'm a giver.
Difference: When I want sex, I get sex. I'm not saying 100% of the time. I'll let her slide once in a while [illness, sad, period, etc...] but if it looks like it's not going to happen, I make it happen. It's called "seduction" and "dread game." If I'm not getting it from her, I can go out and get it elsewhere.
Yes, mostly because I'm in control. I am the head of the house... the head of the whole operation.
That's what life's about - helping each other [humanity] get better, including and especially yourself.
Difference: If your wife is a bitch it's ultimately her nature. AWALT. All women are naturally bitches and it takes effort, education, and experience to keep them reasonable... on both your parts. It's not your responsibility to make her a rational human being - it's hers. The only thing you can do is help her and increase the odds that she is successful.
SLIGHT Difference: Yes, and that goes double for you.
Right. By "do this" you mean "LIVE IT." There is no try, only do. Also, "...give her a clear warning and a choice before ending the marriage" or doing anything really. Be clear about the consequences when she naturally reverts to being the bitch she was born to be.