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Practicing Frame Control

This post is about Frame Control, not building a Frame. When we talk about holding/maintaining Frame we are talking about maintaining mental acuity and awareness within yourself and focusing on the items that are important to you. One of the more redpillsciencey articles you can read is located at http://www.returnofkings.com/29943/the-essence-of-frame-control and is a more metaphysical approach. I prefer a more direct easy to understand approach. One of the best I have found is:

"This is your party, homeboy, you're in charge of the direction. You are above her, she is beneath you; she is lucky to be out with you. You keep things moving in the direction that you want. Tease her if she gets bratty; tease her if she doesn't, always with a smile, always having fun. Don't lose your sense of authority, don't question yourself. Think of Frame Control as the ultimate display of overt confidence." from /u/LastRevision

Let's face it. Once the time comes to "maintain frame" its often in the heat of the moment and shit just got real very quickly. This might be the worst time ever to try and maintain frame. The more intelligent beginner will realize its time to STFU and leave. Frame control needn't be this hard. You can practice it on your terms. Lay the trap, set the wire, and bait the hook. All under your conditions. As you begin to adjust to realizing what is happening around you. Once your mental awareness gets sharper maintaining frame is just something you do.

The married man's frame is more than just control. It's building a life people want to be part of. For sake of brevity take a look at some of these practice runs and see if you can start working on maintaining your frame.

Poking the Bear

Aluded to from an earlier post by /u/stonepimpletilists wherein we "poke the bear" to get a reaction. The setup is simple. Perform a lesser pet peave of your wife and let her get pissed. Then tease her about it with good humor and A&A. Have fun, and when she goes off the deep end don't follow her. An example would be to unload the dish washer and when she is in the kitchen with you, put in a dirty cup. When she flips her wig and asks why you put a dirty cup in the clean load. Just give her a playful smile and a chuckle. When she flings the door open and checks. Time to game her with a hip pull, laugh, and a quirky smile. "You think I would let my wife handle clean dishes? Not on my watch!".

ProTip: I have used this so much, my wife just starts laughing at me and says "I am onto you by now mister". Yet she still plays along for the fun of it.

The Careless Planner

This one is best done on errands day. Make a plan of all the errands you need to get done without her. Don't tell her the plan. When she insists you need to make a list or whatever you guys do, refuse and tell her you are going to handle it. When she snips at you, laugh it off with A&A or AM. Ask her about the next stop and then do what you planned. The key is that your plan should be working well. At the end of the trip let her in on the secret that you had a plan all along. You must pull it off with humor such as "Wow baby you seem frustrated! wink, I had this planned since last week, big smile".

ProTip: Whoa is the man who has the fucked up plan, then you will be practicing frame control on her terms ;)

The ol' Surly Sailor ( a nod to stone )

Come home in a snippy in a mood. When she starts calling you out on it, start A&A on every single jab she throws at you. When she moves in for the kill, pick her up and swing her around with a kiss. Then liven up the mood with an announcement of something exciting for her or yourself. Double extra bonus points if you can carry her up the stairs to the bedroom!

The Morgan Freeman

When she is mad at you start narrating out her actions or thoughts in a silly or playful voice. I do a good Morgan Freeman and it drives her nuts. As she is huffing or puffing around the house, slamming cupboards, and the like, I call it out as if I am narrating a nature documentary. If you go too far and you get the silent treatment that is the golden window. "The mother lion has resorted to silence to attract her mate. She knows it's success and often uses this ploy to arouse the male".

Cold as Ice

When you come in from the outside and your hands are basically frozen solid. Come up from behind her and run your hands up her back inside her shirt. Illicting hoots and hollers. She is gonna be pissed and go off on you. A&A the results but keep trying to touch her with your cold hands. Thank her for warming up your hands and just walk away chuckling.

Fashion Mogul

On date night or going to a big event. Hopefully she isn't always late because you don't put up with that any more. When she is dressed to the nines and looking hot coming out of the bedroom. Look her right in the optical fibers and ask "Is that what you are wearing?". Prepare your jimmies because she is about to rustle them. Then when she gets all worked up, laugh, tell her she looks amazing, and walk away. This one is a double, because you also spin the hamster wheel for the rest of the evening.

There it is. Six ways you can practice frame control and if you fuck it up, the damage is minimal anyways.


[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Did you quote me on a quote I used from you?

[–]bogeyd6[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Double quotes.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of something I heard once:

Double quotes.

[–]bogeyd6[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A gay sailor once told me:

Reminds me of something I heard once 

[–]TimeNdevotion 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bananas for scale!

[–]yldwhisper13 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Dunno if I can rock a Morgan Freeman, but I'm definitely gonna try a Steve Irwin.

[–]Chinchilla_the_Hun 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Crikey! I've really pissed her off! Now I'm just gonna climb on her back, hold her mouth shut, and subdue her till she calms down."

[–]Mildly_Sociopathic 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally, I'd say David Attenborough would be better, or use his brother and relate it to Dinosaurs.

[–]tim_rp 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was thinking a David Attenborough but crikey, that idea is awesome.

[–]alphabeta49 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I laughed out loud at Morgan Freeman.

Now is the time of the month when the female lion prepares to eat her mate. Her emotional outlook can shift from 'I don't know why I'm crying' to 'fuck you mother fucker' in an impressive 2.7 seconds, the fastest of any species.

Fortunately, the enlightened male of the species can foretell such a shift, and will make himself scarce, in order to make her heart grow fonder once her bleeding stops.

[–]grncld 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This one gave me a coffee snort too. Excellent tactic that I will begin to employ with great amusement.

[–]druganswer3 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

TLDR: Don't ever stop flirting with your wife.

Yes, I guess this could be practice for frame control for a brand new user where his wife gets angry with him even when he's joking or flirting but beyond that this is just "6 ways to flirt with your wife."

If you want to practice controlling frame do something that you know is going to piss her off but you think she is being stupid for getting upset at. (Example: I put a cup in the sink or next to the sink a lot of nights before bed. I use it the next morning or even if I don't we wash dishes after breakfast anyway and one cup adds 5 seconds of work. Drives her crazy, no clue why.) When she calls you out on it/bitches about it make fun of her for being so crazy about something so dumb. Rinse. Repeat. You'll eventually get the "You know I don't like this!! Why do you keep doing it?!" Keep doing it and keep making fun of her. Her little fit (not that it's really at that level, just a quick comment really) entertains me and I don't keep that to myself.

Jokingly doing something that makes her upset and then pulling a Houdini "You know I would never do that!" isn't really controlling frame... She gets upset over a perceived slight and then you tease her and it turns out that you didn't do the slight after all? Eh... weak shit IMO. Definitely a form of flirting but not so much a test of frame.

I guess everyone has to start on the bunny hill though so apologies if it comes off like I'm shitting on your post.

[–]bogeyd6[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is an extremely interesting digestion of the material. The way you have taken the words and applied them to YOUR situations. Knowingly or Unknowingly. Has indeed had the effect that I wanted. Agitating your wife so that you can practice maintaining frame is also a strong form of flirting. Weak? No. You missed the nuances and finesse. You are killing three birds with one stone in each scenario. Take a look again. Push-Pull, Frame Control, Flirting, Neg hits. There are multiple applications of the material at hand. Some obvious, some not so obvious. In fact you just described poking the bear, and your ability to maintain frame while you tease her about it. In the contrast, you could put a post it note there to remind yourself that you shouldn't put the cup there so she wouldn't be angry with you.

Thanks for shitting on my post, here is an upvote, and I look forward to you maybe posting some, hopefully, better ways for someone to practice. I left out the Crook and Hook, but I feel like you would have appreciated that one.

[–]Coolbeans024ptf 9 points9 points [recovered] | Copy Link

We always say lift as the first step to trp but maintaining frame is worth more than a six pack to me. I want both but a six pack doesn't put me in control over the people around me. It never fails to amaze me what a positive effect self-control has on my day.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do agree that STFU/frame is more important than lifting. you don't lift? your SMV doesn't change. But if you talk too much about feelings, it actually goes down.

Granted, you need spark and fuel to drive your car

[–]cj_aubrey 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great post.

[–]cj_aubrey 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Done.

[–]mrpCamper 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great examples. I love lessons with examples I can implement. Great stuff.

I do this sometimes and it's great to get more examples. The one thing I have done is while driving just pick a different route than the one you know she would have taken. "Why didn't you take a left on Sycamore?" or better yet. "You missed the turn!" You can answer anything. "I like the curves on this woman.. er I mean road that lives up here...."

[–]Redneck001 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice post, /u/bogeyd6. I enjoyed reading that.

I do a good Morgan Freeman and it drives her nuts

I do the same, except I do it as Matthew McConaughey (or Bill Clinton, they both sound alike when I do them, my Bill Clinton includes the half thumb). I always end it with "ya want me to take my shirt off?"

[–]bogeyd6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks baby, and I just got a new finish to add :)

[–]TimeNdevotion 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love it :D

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