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EDIT: Went looking for the story... Nevermind, it's RP. Though makes me laugh, strip all the RP language from it, and it's the story of the underdog, not the evil manipulated rapist doing RP porn in his basement.

Here you go

OP figured it out on his own, no roadmap, but damn if it's not the kind of posts that bring a tear to my eye. Reminds me of the post where the guy was divorcing his frigid wife, and she blew him to completion at the lawyers office when negotiating terms. Had a revelation then, that she could have been doing this the whole time, but only bothered when he finally had enough. He finished in her mouth and finished the divorce.

Another man fixing his life, enjoy some morning uplift. I honestly like this one in combination with TRP's invol incel post from the sidebar if you have time to read both.

wonderful quote in there too

You generally don't leave if things are going just fine. You leave when you're abused, unappreciated, or with someone that doesn't appreciate life. Like you go see The Matrix or Starwars, go stargazing, go ice skating, eat at a restaurant that is $500 per plate.... and she's just not impressed, not into it. Oh look, she's checking her phone again. Generally, something has to be so wrong that a guy thinks, "I would enjoy life better if I was sharing it with someone else."


[–]TurduckenII11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of his follow-up comments is also dripping of RP truths:

Now I'm older and have more experience, I now know that all relationships ARE like that if you let them be like that. Of the 50+ women I have dated since the break up, my subconscious tells me that women are completely happily capable of that level of toxicity if you let it. Simply as I have seen them treat others in similar fashions.

AWALT: All women CAN be like that if you LET THEM. Controlling yourself is the first step towards finding satisfaction in your relationships.

RP is just a language that explains concepts to others so that they don't have to reinvent the wheel, but if they never find RP then they do in fact have to reinvent the wheel or live miserably because they never figure it out.

[–]ArchwingerMarried- MRP MODERATOR8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a story as old as time:

"I was a whiny bitch, a jobless loser, and a fat ugly fuck. My wife never fucked me and pissed all over me. Now I'm a cocky asshole with muscles and a great job who pisses all over my wife, and she begs to suck my cock, and I don't even want her any more."

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR18 points19 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

In the 8 years, by my count we had fucked maybe 11-12 times and in years 6, 7 and 8, not once!

This is how low a man can sink! Reminds me of the controversial scene from "12 Years a Slave." The star kills the slaveholder and unlocks the door to a wagon with a bunch of men chained inside. They just sit their dumbly looking at the open door, completely defeated with no thought of escape in their minds.

I had stopped giving two one-eyed fucks about her. I can't pinpoint when, but I just stopped giving a shit whether she was home or not, I didn't care where she would go, I didn't pay any attention when she wanted to get her moan on. As far as I was concerned, my gym and my band came first.

This is the result of unplugging and why I set up the 12 Levels- to ease you into your MAP before you feel like this.

After finding the DB sub he says:

I was dumbfound that there were people out there not only in the same predicament, but being fed the same excuses and being battered emotionally by their "loved ones".

This is KEY. A sex denying harpy is ABUSIVE. Say it again men and understand it this time:

A WIFE WHO IS ITCHY AND BITCHY AND REFUSES TO HAVE SEX WITH HER HUSBAND ON THE REGULAR IS ABUSIVE.

So he FINALLY steps out of his cage- not in a way that has a chance to restore his relationsnhip with his wife but in a totally clueless way. It reads like a chick saying: "It just happened."

I had planned none of this, I was unaware it was happening. But she invited me back to her room for, what I thought, was to see some project she was doing for work

He went from level 5 Dread which he achieved methodically but then skipped straight to level 12. No ultimatum, no build up, no demonstrating your improved value. This is purely a revenge fantasy with only a little actionable intelligence- mainly DNGAF, get in shape, build your value. The problem is he did it in a way that had 0 chance of improving or saving the relationship with his wife.

Good for him!

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

problem is he did it in a way that had 0 chance of improving or saving the relationship with his wife.

What relationship?

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Point to Scurve. You are completely right.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

A WIFE WHO IS ITCHY AND BITCHY AND REFUSES TO HAVE SEX WITH HER HUSBAND ON THE REGULAR IS ABUSIVE.

Oh shit, men are such victims, our feelz! Whatever. Most men that go through this only did it to themselves. Whether they made themselves undesirable through their bodies, attitudes, or laziness, or made a bad decision as to who to marry, the man is usually a dumbass (or a total bitch).

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

totally, and in that frame, victim makes up a totally different context.

Victim in SJW parlance is 'Something affects me, please world fix it'

in RP parlance is 'I've fucked something up and been bitten in the ass, own it and solve it'

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I suppose "victim" is more succinct than "guy who realizes he's fucking up and dealing with the consequences of that".

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

yeah, but you're 100% on point IMO... It takes a little effort to see which one the guy is referring to.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I work for a college in a pretty liberal-minded town, so "victim" usually means just the one thing for me.

I like terms like "owning your shit" and "taking responsibility", or even "dealing with the mess you created". It steers the conversation toward what a man can do about something (productivity), instead of focusing on how he was potentially wronged by someone or by circumstance (whining).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair point

[–]user_none5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm all of that.

I went full on whiny bitch in a marriage, and totally lost it. Do I think of myself as a victim? Nah. Was she emotionally abusive? Oh, fuck yes, like Lucifer's Daughter level. Trouble is, I let that happen and didn't stand up for myself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How was your turnaround on that? I was thinking back on my "full on whiny bitch" phase the other day and the process from that to where I am now. My wife was a total harpy bitch at the time, but I was a no-responsibility-crybaby.

[–]user_none2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If by turnaround you mean any recovery in the marriage, there was none. It was a full-on scorched earth divorce.

In the marriage, at least during the "normal" parts of it, I was, for the most part, not a whiny bitch. It was when infidelity on her part came out that I lost it and life was crushing me from all sides. Those were dark times.

[–]Sadbeary0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trouble is, I let that happen and didn't stand up for myself.

Same. Not victim; but stupid. Stupid no longer.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

the man is usually a dumbass (or a total bitch).

True, but the false information fed to us since birth, the lies told to us by our mothers, sisters, lovers and wives, the feminization of education begininning in kindergarten, lack of fathers, the total absence of any masculine role model, the inundation of feminine and weak men as the proper model for manhood on television and movies, the nonstop YOUGOGIRRRRLZZ in every single movie, the continual drumbeat of rape culture and "women want nice guys" has nothing to do with it?

It's all the man's fault? Let me guess, Eve eating the Apple was all Adam's fault, amiright?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

It's easy for someone to fall into either extreme here. I just don't see the point in blaming women, our upbringings, lack of masculinity, etc. It's a waste of time. Whether or not it's true, why sit around and complain about it over and over again? Time is too valuable to waste like that.

[–]Redneck001MRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

just don't see the point in blaming women, our upbringings, lack of masculinity, etc. It's a waste of time.

Totally agree. I've never experienced the anger phase. Because I don't feel "lied to." I just didn't speak Powertalk.

It's like complaining about last week's weather. Pointless.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I passed up that phase too. I have a theory that TRP hits anger phase more than MRP, but it's a pretty loose theory.

The complaining feels like whining after a while. "Disney lied! My mom lied! My sisters, friends, and girlfriends lied!" Whatever. Most women don't even know any other reality because they were brought up the same way. It makes it sound like women are all-powerful and all-knowing oppressors. It's hilarious.

[–]Redneck001MRP APPROVED5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I never bought into the global conspiracy. I'm sure my wife and her mom didn't conspire to turn me into a fat, lazy fuck.

Don't understand the women hate. If it wasn't for women, we'd be dating each other.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitches can't melt steel beams

[–]KyfhoMyobaMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The word "conspire" means "to breathe together." So in that sense, yes, your wife and MIL did conspire.

[–]Redneck001MRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they fed me crappy food, that I voluntarily ate. MIL still eats horribly, wife not so much.

MIL was in town last weekend. My 9 yo daughter and I cooked breakfast, an egg fest, turkey bacon, turkey sausage. MIL was like "dafuq?", but admitted how good it was. Maybe she'll get her nutrition under control?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Until they "hit the wall." Lol. They're neutralized then, but the damage they can do in that 8 year window from 18-26 (I think I read) Not all, but a lotta fuckwits in TRP.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course.

Your life isn't your fault, everything is out to get you, and this is the solution. If you ignore the actual 'work' part and just absorb the message, a lot of 'informercial' types are going to love that shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You have the farmers almanac, no fair though

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

right. it's easy to say "they should have known better" from where we sit. they should have known better, but why would they? the indoctrination starts early and hits hard - it never stops like a broken fire hydrant.

[–]mrpCamperUnplugging0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Technically withholding sex is viewed as a form of sexual abuse among human sexuality educators.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

See, I knew MRP was abusive with their "turn down starfish sex" policies!

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of the controversial scene from "12 Years a Slave." The star kills the slaveholder and unlocks the door to a wagon with a bunch of men chained inside.

Not to be a smartass; but the movie you are referencing is "Django Unchained".

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No wonder I couldn't find the clip! Thank you.

The scene is at 2 hours 30 minutes into the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGEMgW8rro

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Theres a psych article on the same thing. Would shock dogs on the floor, give half a way to get out, half couldn't.

Found out the ones who weren't able to escape, didn't do so... even when an opportunity was offered. Theres a real effect of 'reserved to ones fate' out there

[–]homo-homini-lupus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But I think their hesitance was more related to Jamie Foxx quickly dispatching two (or three?) of the slave owners. Not so much Stockholm Syndrome. I think they were scared shitless he was going to kill them.

But I get your point.

[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called Learned Helplessness.

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I honestly cannot fathom how this type of thing (dead bedroom for months much less years) occurs. I would either be out the door or in jail....just don't get it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Confessions of an involuntary incel is a sidebar on trp to illustrate

[–]PersaeusMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OK, I read that again. Illustrates where you end up is strongly impacted by where you start (poor fuck....) but also not determinative; and the skurge of depression.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So, eight year mark, 6th year since the problems started. I realized I was a fat fucker. No sex = pizza, right? I hated the fact I got so fat, so I just started working out and eating right. It took me three years or so but I got in shape. Very good shape. Something else also happened. I had stopped giving two one-eyed fucks about her. I can't pinpoint when,

Thanks for the solid post stoney. I read the whole thing and one thing that really jumped at me. The guy started working out, getting in shape, and his frame developed on it's own. This is a good lesson for the newbies, lifting and gaming go hand in hand.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. The be attractive don't be unattractive line gets thrown around frequently, but it's fucking true

[–]MRPguyMarried2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Now to cross-examine myself, I guess I did treat her pretty badly. I mean, there was that time I took her for a weekend in Paris, no-expense spared hotel. The Sunday she got pissed off stating that all I wanted to do was get in her pants. I hadn't even broached the subject, I just wanted to do something nice.

Stuff like this just makes me laugh now. He's being sarcastic but ignores the fact that she probably DID want him to get into her pants. We will never know, but we do know that she wanted somebody in her pants.

10 years six months. I finally clued up and realized she was my problem.

Nah. Shout-out to /u/trainingthebrain and a plug for Extreme Ownership.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

summarizing ten years in a few hundred words is not easy.

She was his problem . He created it. His solution was to dump his masterpiece overboard. the rest is up to him.

[–]MRPguyMarried4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Huge props to him for getting himself as far as he did. I also found deadbedrooms, which led me here. I don't think I would have figured much of this out without being introduced to the manosphere.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"A monster lovingly handcrafted at home" as we say in my office.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it is the difference between here and TRP.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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