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Wow, where to begin.

Context

I got married very young (just turned 21) to an overweight oneitis. First serious girlfriend, first sex for either of us. Had no idea what I was doing. The first when you are in love is like it always is. You'll do anything for each other. You say I love you and have it said hundreds of times. But after a decade and a half and two kids you find things out.

I won't paint her as the bad guy but one day I woke up in my mid 30's and saw that she had done nothing but gain weight. I did the RP stuff. I dressed better. Bought a nice ass car and motorcycle. Got a better haircut. Hit the gym until I was cut with abs. Started flirting. Kept a good job. Flaunted my achievements when I could.

Gentlemen to say that none of that mattered to her would be a huge understatement. She got fatter. She hit 300 and is still pretty much right there. She told me she only really needed sex from me once a week, maybe every two. She disrespected me at every turn.

I had told myself I was gonna cheat before. It seemed like my only option and that I would just cheat with a married woman and get my jollies and I could deal with this bullshit. I could deal with the once a week sex from her for 15 mins and the disrespect. But after I found a girl 6 years her junior and over 100 pounds lighter there was no going back.

Now before you ask she is not my new oneitis. I care for her and I've dabbled and that's all I'll say on that. But she is fantastic in bed and super submissive and basically everything I've wanted that my wife didn't care to be.

So one day my wife finds, let's say, some evidence. I cop to everything but sleeping with this girl. Cue the hysterical bonding. Suddenly my wife is sending me nudes, asking for a threesome with another girl, doing things in bed and asking for things in bed that she hated before. Suddenly she not only is ok with them, she WANTS them. You would think this would make me happy or at least not unhappy. But it pissed me off. 16 years and it took me on my way out the door to get her to do any of this. Suddenly she respects me, doesn't care if I change careers. Asks my opinion on everything. But like I said, I was pissed.

So finally I told her it was over that I'd get the lawyer set up and we'd dissolve this. Should have done this first I know.

Here's the funny thing. She's still been asking for sex. She's been on Match.com ever since I told her it was over over. She's talked to a few guys and she cops a week ago that a guy she sent a picture to asked her to have sex with him. Long story short she meets him "for drinks" on Friday and within the space of an hour after meeting him she's fucking him. I didn't really care except that it just confirmed the final redpill truths. She thinks he's a total tool and he doesn't things that are unattractive like drink too much. But she goes to the town he's in to "go shopping" knowing she's going to bang him but hamsters it away. Here's the funny part. He doesn't call or text her for 3 days after that. She's irate. Tells me well it was a one night stand and she needed it to get over me. Good I tell her. But she's pecking out page long nasty texts to him all day about why he used her and dumped her. I mean she's 40 with two kids and a good 150 pounds overweight. He was pretty desperate in my opinion but so was I. But she feels good about herself she tells me and she'll do it again. If she can.


[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

TRP saves the man, not the relationship. Sometimes the relationship improves, sometimes it doesn't.

Now you have your eyes open and SMV high so you can pursue your own happiness.

Good luck

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

She hit 300... 100 pounds lighter.

Was thinking the same thing. If you are a prize now, she might just be a dud

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And running around bars banging thirsty losers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd rather she wasn't. your way, he can blame her on it and leave. Just outgrowing someone and looking out for yourself is much harder to do IMO

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its true. She might be. I have my eyes open now though. I won't be afraid to next if I need to. Its much easier to say goodbye to a girlfriend than this fucking divorce. LOL

But if you go back through my post history I talk about being a hapless beta. I let her run over me and I didn't even get a nice looking old lady out of it.

[–]RedPill80812 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

40 y.o., 300 lbs, Married, 2 kids...No problem getting laid.

Wow there's some thirsty, desperate dudes out there.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

But according to her he was hot!! LOL

Of course he told her this is what he does. Goes on Match finds a new chick to bang every week. Women are pretty fucking stupid. But then again, so are guys if she can find cocks to ride.

[–]KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

according to her he was hot!!

He was different. Women are wired to lose attraction for baby-daddy after the kid's about 2-ish.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Studies?

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure there are studies but most females of any species are biologically wired to try and diversify the gene pool by mating with as many top quality (for them anyways) males as possible. This is pure and simple hypergamy.

The praying mantis female doesn't eat the head off the male because its being mean. It does it to secure food for the upcoming pregnancy. Its pure survival for them. They can't even really control it well.

[–]sunfistkid 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are wired to lose attraction for baby-daddy after the kid's about 2-ish.

Holy. Fuck. Can you elucidate?

[–]mediamole 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bleh.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's pretty much what happened. And they don't regain it in certain cases no matter how much you outrank them or improve. Best to move on.

[–]BluepillProfessor 20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You would think this would make me happy or at least not unhappy. But it pissed me off. 16 years and it took me on my way out the door to get her to do any of this.

This is a common and perfectly natural reaction for men and a very common, probably ubiquitous reaction for women. Dread works to restore the sex in the marriage! Seriously. No bullshit.

There are two problems with Dread. First, if you go to fast you might check out. You get a younger, prettier model and blow up your family before the wife even notices- which is what happened here. Second, if you go to fast SHE might give up- which also happened here with her gaining weight etc.

Your example is one of the primary reasons I developed the 12 Steps of Dread. New guys need to build up the Dread over time (Levels 1-10) and give the wife a chance to catch up before fucking neighbor girl (Level 11).

I do think it is interesting that so many people think I developed the levels of Dread as a way to justify men "cheating" on the wife. Quite the opposite.

You don't have to "cheat." All you have to do is let your wife find out that you are perfectly capable of pulling a younger, hotter woman than her and she will turn around in the same way as your wife did when she found "evidence."

Thanks for yet another example- and warning.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Where can I find these 12 steps?

Edit: just sleuthed them myself: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2l7pqe/the_12_levels_of_dread_the_rules_for_any_long/

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course. The funny thing is that I could not go too fast with the dread with this woman. She saw very quick what she was losing. We've talked before BPP. I went through the levels, maybe a little quicker than I should but the affair was me just fed up and so I went to 11. I gave her maybe 3 years to catch up. She wasn't even walking fast. LOL

Yes dread but also hysterical bonding. I'm not kidding you. I could have pretty much gotten my soon to be ex to do just about anything I asked.

[–]Sadbeary 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I gave her maybe 3 years

3 years is very kind of you. I was walking out the door less than a year after I worked out the relationship was fucked up and I can leave because I no longer give a fuck despite 3 kids. I found RP about the same time and it validated the shit i was already doing that was successful was indeed correct...and gave me new coping tactics as well.

[–]FlahFlahFlohi 10 points10 points [recovered] | Copy Link

That was me 7 years ago. I noped out, she has stayed fat and I'm living with a submissive girl with no kids and a gym membership who cooks me healthy meals and sucks me off whenever I want. No complaints here.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait a minute....do we know the same girl? LOL

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't sound like you blew up your life, just like your wife couldn't hang.

[–]MRPguy 5 points6 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Sexually you moved on from your 300# wife and had a fling with a 200# woman? I guess everything is relative, isn't it?

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The truth is I don't know her weight. She's short as fuck. I'd guess 175. She's not supermodel thin but that's not my body type. Judge me if you want. I can lift this one. I'm happy with that.

[–]MRPguy 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

No judgement, just an observation that everything is relative. If you've been with a 3 then a 5 is dynamite and a refreshing glass of water. To a man with a 7 a 5 is disgusting.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I get your point. But the sliding scale is so subjective.

I'll settle for a lower SR if she'll wear a collar and let me lead her around on all fours. I'm weird like that though.

[–]sunfistkid 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll settle for a lower SR if she'll wear a collar and let me lead her around on all fours.

That's the realist thing I've ever read on here.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I mean I've dealt with women to try and get them to submit. Some just don't have it in them. And a girl that knows she can do better (i.e., equal SR) has no reason to submit. She's the dominant one.

[–]MRPguy 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it isn't all about looks. A submissive quality certainly raises the SMV.

[–]ArchterusMarried0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Interesting qualifier. Can I lift her?

[–]NopeToThe47th 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, we're all lifting, right? It's a matter of what makes you happy.

[–]Archwinger 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Hey, he said "over 100". She could be a mere 190.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Cut with abs....good job.....nice car....

Harpoons whales?

Something off here

[–]Archwinger 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, >100 pounds less than 300 could be any number from 1 to 199. But if his new girl was a 115# stunner, he'd probably have worked that into his post instead of playing with round number numerical ranges. He's married to a 2 and fucking a 3 or 4 on the side. But we all have work to do.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dear MRP,

I am cheating on my 300 pound wife. My new girlfriend is between 0 and 199 pounds.

Edit...Arch....if she is a two,....what would you define as one?

Single mother

Slut

300 pounds

[–]Archwinger 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hairy, hygiene issues, deformity, medical/mental issues, etc. A 1 is just barely fuckable by the thirstiest of thirsty losers dying for a hole, any hole. If this fatass scared up a husband, she's probably at least a 2.

[–]sunfistkid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I laughed. Have an upvote.

[–]FlahFlahFlohi3 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

When you're hungry and your only food source was shitty oatmeal for breakfast, corn flakes is a godsend. It's no lucky charms or cocoa pebbles but hell, everything IS relative.

[–]sunfistkid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fruity Pebbles is good too though.

[–]Sadbeary 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"But it pissed me off. 16 years and it took me on my way out the door to get her to do any of this."

I start packing a bag and "bam" now she can find the energy to fend off apathy and treat me with love and respect that were missing for 5+ years of our 13 year marriage. How can you not be pissed at such behavior? It is like after X kids they think "he's not going anywhere, he REALLY loves his kids, I can treat him like shit now; there will be no ramifications."

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

that's why a man's gotta respect himself first. if you don't respect yourself, no one else will give a shit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If you are divorcing her, then why do you care about her sex-life at all? Give her some pointers so your kids are not exposed to anything unseemly.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well I don't hate her. Trust me she's going to need help getting a man and keeping one. Right now she thinks the 15 mins of attention she gets from another man while he's inside her is all she needs. She's going to be very lonely and lord knows she's going to have time to make my life hell.

But also, meeting a guy she's texted for a week and fucking him within an hour. Yeah that's pretty slutty. She might sell a kid for condom money. Ya never know.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like she will be an Alpha-widow now.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I appreciate the compliment!

[–]turn30left 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why do you discuss these things with her? Don't entertain her.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brother. When the other side starts letting you in on their secrets you listen. I don't need the information for this one. I need it for the next one.

[–]KyfhoMyoba 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Oh, dear God in heaven! I suppose that they must exist, but who bangs a 300 lb "woman"?!?!

And OP, if you're shredded and you're just shooting for "over 100 lbs lighter" from 300 as your post implies, you've got some work to do on your self confidence.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Who bangs a 300 lb woman? Well me for way fucking too long. Its just one of those things I got stuck in. My life lived me instead of me living it. And we all know where that leads. But please I'm happy with the girl I'm with right now. Its not a self-confidence issue. Its a she fits me issue. Everyone has a type.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good for you to hold frame through a bit of teasing. You do sound happy and that's what TRP aims for. A man achieving his own happiness

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can deal with teasing. I appreciate the advice I always get here and if I can share some all the better. I am happy. Despite so much going wrong at least I'm not dealing with shit sex with someone I can't stand.

[–]RawPoseidon 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Reading this thread, I can't help but laugh really hard at all of the comments and now this:

Who bangs a 300 lb woman? Well me for way fucking too long. Its just one of those things I got stuck in.

And I just imagined you getting sucked in by your x-wife's stomach.

[–]avocado02864 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Man, how the fuck did you even do that? I mean seriously, was it hard for you to get hard? How did you even find her pussy below all the layers of fat? I have never fucked a woman that size and I cannot imagine what it must be like... Good for you that you have moved on, though!

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was tough and yes it was difficult. Its just the sad reality when you marry someone at a certain weight and they don't feel they need to maintain it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How I Blew Up My Whole OLD Life and Saw EVERY Redpill Truth Play Out

FTFY

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100 lb lighter

Dude, you are still banging a mini-moon.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So while awalt, not awalfs (lazy fat slobs) in reaction to having a guy go (or be) beta. You know what she does when she gets comfortable.

Even if you plan on never letting that happen again , you know this lazy fat slob is still in there waiting to come out. Let some other guy keep her on her toes or buy her cupcakes.

I actually think this is harder slide for guys to get over . Them just letting themselves go physically. Rather than say, they just get bossier or turn into a nag.

Now you can play the good friend so the divorce goes smoothly. Much better to stay here than get involved in other ways. Once kids reach maturity: slow fade complainer arm ham fatty into the void.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Could not have laid out my plan better.

[–]ZeeyardSA 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well done mate!

[–]MeatCurtainRod 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This comes to show just how critical a man needs to be as the cornerstone and foundation of a relationship. Everything revolves around him, because he is responsible and logical and rational, a job women simply cannot do. He needs to be a solid unwavering rock that can shoulder the bullshit burdens of the family. It is a fucking mystery as to why society is undermining and eroding the men of the family so much and at the same breath has been blaming men for the family dysfunctions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy Link

Did you file yet? Move out? Take kids with you?

If not, you're having an "open marriage" without consequences to the slob. Act to split this up and get the kids acclimated and at least shield your offspring from slob's desperation and nutrition habits.

You employed nuclear dread with an expected (or highly possible) outcome without a contingency plan in place for your little ones.

Congratulations on moving toward your happiness, but without protecting your kids too, it's a good RP outcome, and a meh MRP outcome.

I may be alone it this (and IDGAF what childless dudes think in matters of parenting), but employing a sexual strategy with anyone should be done with consequences in mind. Dreading your wife may fuck up your kids.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Its a good question. But its been an open marriage for a while now - just open on my side. LOL

She's moving out next week. I'm buying her out of the house. I've got child support and we are splitting household goods. Its not a horrible deal. We will call it beta tax. Don't be beta fellas.

That being said. I got a little pissed at her that she used my money to buy gas to go fuck him. I told her that would not happen again and I expect to be repaid.

My kids are protected. 50/50 custody. I am worried about my oldest. But you know I was going to fucking go insane if I didn't step out. sooooooooo. LOL

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't sound like a divorce rape story like the MGTOW guys are always harping on... or is it?

You'll have to change your flair now.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Its not a total rape and in fairness I gave her much more than I probably could have gotten away with. But rather than fight it in court I made her an offer she couldn't refuse. Don't get me wrong. I'm paying the fucking beta tax. Not real super happy about it but its worth it to lose the remnants of my betaness.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

time is money.

people pay all sorts of premiums for various preferences.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Could not have said it better.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

and a meh MRP outcome.

this is bullshit. complete fucking bullshit.

mrp is about men taking responsibility for their own happiness, which really is just an extension of rule 0. op seems pretty content. good on op.

lets put it this way, if you think mrp is about saving one specific marriage, you've already confused and on your path to failure.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

MRP is TRP for married men. The marriage isn't sacred, the man's happiness is.

Every day I see the sub losing focus and headed purple.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

I've raised the ire of two all-star contributors, who I believe are right about RP tenants, but miss the point of my post.

Nowhere did I say save the marriage. My entire post is about acting decisively to protect your kids. OP's explanation answered my questions.

He's acting and improving. Not much bluing of the message there. If RP is male happiness above all else, even your progeny, then that's not leadership.

Fire away.

Being a family alpha and your best version of a man means being a good father.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Alpha is a set if behaviors that women find attractive.

The sub has hijacked the meaning to include: good dad, leader of business etc.

There are men in prison who are alpha. CEOs and fathers of the year are beta. You use TRP to accomplish what you want.

You decided on your own that OP should put his kids first and that he wasnt doing so

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

True, I assumed that kids were an afterthought and asked questions hoping that wasn't so.

OP set me straight.

As for alpha, I get your point, and will not use the word as synonymous with what it is not. It's a defined descriptor without morality and I'm still internalizing that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/

When you see OP so calm and satisfied with the outcome then you can see that the kids welfare and the girlfriends weight dont mean failed.

Check this post....a pure alpha

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

i love that post.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't it refocus you on what the fuck Alpha and Attraction really are all about?

Alpha is poorly understood and cannot be "achieved", it's a mindset, a set of behaviors.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the link...and the chat. I have an appointment with some iron.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

A happy confident, content single father is infinitely better than a beaten down pussified man settling with a harpy wife. It sets terrible precedents for children of any gender.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Completely agree. I'm not advocating saving shitty marriages, but raising functioning children. Two households or one.

I was afraid OP was out playing, and so was his wife, without a plan. He's making the best of a gross situation.

[–]redpill-hardmode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I got both points of view and I'm sorry its tough to explain my story in text. I know it so I leave things out. My kids are a priority. But like its been said I was a shit father dealing with her bullshit. And a piss poor example for my boy. I've been a better father in the weeks since she found the affair and we decided to dissolve than I was for years. That makes me sad but all I can do is be better.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If kids are incidental to your abundance mentally and power fucking, then don't get married and have kids. You do you.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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