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[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is very timely. Seems that this has been a common theme. "How do I control my wife" when guys should be asking "how do I control myself?"

Spot on.

[–]NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Where The Red Pill and modern feminism and other detractors diverge, however, is that the others will tell you that self-improvement is cheating. It’s “manipulation.” If you become muscular and hot, you’re just manipulating women with your good looks. If you excel professionally, you’re manipulating women with your money and status. If you’re awesome socially, you’re just gaming women when you go out and wow them with your social network. And so on.

Do normal people actually say this? I feel like it's a straw man– ie there are maybe a few jealous crazies who say it, and the extreme ones get held up as the example of "what we're fighting against".

That said, obsessing over the details of the disagreement is counter-productive, better to just shrug, say "eh" and go lift.

[–]bsutansaltTRP MODERATOR4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People often mistake setting boundaries as being controlling. It's not. Setting boundaries tells them these are your standards and expectations. You need to just be clear what the consequences will be if they fail to measure up.

In other words they're free to do whatever they want, and you are free to walk if they do whatever it is that's over the line.

edit: One thing I will add though is if you ever go back on your word, then don't be surprised if it creates more problems down the road. Women WILL lose respect for you if you let it slide because women testing boundaries is a pretty big shit test. Your buckling is a monumental failure on your part. You hold firm, walk away, and let her be the one to come crawling back. It's the only way to be sure ;)

[–]ZeeyardSAUnplugging3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Damn this is eye opening as I continuously try to influence my wife's eating habits....That stops NOW!

She can continue eating what she likes and I will continue with the Gainz

[–]SexistFlyingPig0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You can lead. Just don't control.

[–]ZeeyardSAUnplugging1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Can't I am on a bulk she needs to lose...

[–]SexistFlyingPig0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So, lead with discipline. Maybe right this moment you're not going to lead by example in terms of raw calories, but you can lead by example in quality of food. You're not bulking with doughnuts, are you?

[–]ZeeyardSAUnplugging0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope.. All quality food.. She knows exactly what to eat just does not really care anymore

[–]RPcoyoteUnplugging2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking awesome

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Core reading. A masterpiece

[–]itsgavinc1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We live in a world where: standing up for oneself is viewed as abuse, making a decisive decision is viewed as controlling, and losing weight while getting jacked is viewed as manipulation.

It's utter nonsense and a complete joke. The sheep can continue to wander aimlessly and devote their lives to appeasing everybody and never ruffling feathers. What a dreary existence. It is the Matrix.

[–]Redneck001MRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Live in your mother’s basement and only come out to go to work.

That describes many marriages.

Great read. Puts the "manipulation" argument to rest.

[–]uxl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sidebar material.

[–]TrekneckMarried0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wanted to post a link, not sure if I can... so just get on Youtube and search "slow clap."

Good shit here

[–]SeeTheFence0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oddly enough, (maybe not all that odd), a lil book called Atlas Shrugged unveiled this concept to me. A few months ago, I was chit chattin with some guys about our wives, and one of these guys says, 'I'm not cool with her blah blah blah', and I shot back with, 'dude, if my wife left me tomorrow, that's her fault'. That's about as simple of terms I can put the concept in.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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