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Read on here about effeminate guys who think they should get everything handed to them/deserve a rich guy and wanted to share a story about these 2 guys I know from school. Guy A is a semi-professional athlete with filthy rich parents. He has the “alpha” traits and lives the good life. Guy B is short, average looking, and comes from a working class family. He’s pretty shy and stoic. Not effeminate, just quiet. "Alpha" Guy A is fucking obsessed with him, buys him tons of shit, texts him all day. So in that sense, he’s acting like the beta provider. I guess they love each other but guy B acts pretty indifferent about it. My question is, where is the disconnect? Shouldn't Guy B be over the moon with this shit, since hes getting the provider so many girls and gay guys want?


[–]contrafagotto5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're missing some factor. Character and intelligence are the first possibilities that come to mind. That's just one possibility, but guys who are very smart and who use their intelligence to lift others up rather than put others down can do very, very well. I speak from experience, because I'm an 8 who always had 10 boyfriends, some of them straight. There is a Socratic element in gay culture (and male culture in general) that, as far as I can tell, is totally absent in straight culture.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You answered your own question with this. Guy B sounds like he acts like an old school Russian man; he will only speak during the most appropriate times and what he says is respectful and whatnot. Don't look at Guy A as a beta male so much as an alpha female with an alpha father; he's the good looking one with the rich daddy. Guy B has an air of mystery about him, says things that are very respectable and Guy A may deeply respect him a lot for his intellect and his ability to put out in the sack; Guy A may have a fetish of some kind.

[–]KHJohan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

since hes getting the provider so many girls and gay guys want?

Guy B may not be aware whether or not guy A is sincere. If your value in the sexual marketplace is lower than the guy who tries to seduce you/acheive a LTR with you, then it is reasonable to be skeptical.

Guy B might also have some emotionel backage which makes him afraid entering a relationship, since you describe him as

pretty shy and stoic. Not effeminate, just quiet.

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