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She was cooking dinner and cutting chicken. I was happy she was making my favorite meal so I kissed her on the cheek and she went ape shit. She turned towards me with the knife and fork and stepped towards me and said “I told you to never touch me again.” I then said, “what are you going to do, eat me?” And laughed. She went on and on about how she is depressed and started recording the whole event on her phone. She said I grabbed her and made a mark, I probably did this when she had the knife in her hand but regardless it wasn’t hard. After that she called my mom, I still don’t get why she calls her of all people.

Basically she is prepping the battlefield for divorce with the lists, now the camera and the text messages per my lawyer. I can’t live with a depressed person that won’t seek help. She said she is Saving her money for divorce but at this point I need to do this to save my ass and get this process started. No amount of self improvement, alphaness etc will save this marriage as long as she is literally crazy.

I’ve finally hit the point where I am ready to leave the marriage. I can’t believe took me this long, but I am here and I am ready to move forward with my life. This is getting to be dangerous and I don’t want my life ruined or destroyed anymore than it has through this whole experience.

I just want to say thanks for all the no nonsense advice and suggestions through this whole ordeal. Keep up the good fight.


[–]bowhunter6 65 points66 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

JFC, you need to get out of there immediately. Go scorched Earth. This bitch is plotting to destroy you. Move out, meet with lawyer, record all interactions with this woman in future, maybe attempt to get restraining order before she can.

Good luck.

[–]mrpthrowa 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, get out right now.

You know what the alternative is?

You, in a cell, behind bars. You, on a hospital bed, and then to a cell behind bars. Because whatever happens you're still going to be fucked.

Trust me, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. going out and crashing at your friend's couch is better than what's coming to you.

[–]SteelSharpensSteel 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If your wife threatens you with a knife, there are no good outcomes that involve you sticking around.

Time to protect yourself.

[–]Reject444 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If your wife threatens you with a knife, there are no good outcomes that involve you sticking around.

Absolutely true. Of all possible relationship boundaries, "Threatening me with a deadly weapon" might actually be #1, with "Cheating" a close second. If my wife ever pulled a weapon on me in any way that wasn't 100% playful and joking, I would be filing papers immediately (not just divorce but maybe a restraining order and a petition to have her committed to a psychiatric evaluation). GTFO of there, OP, and distance yourself from this psycho in every way as fast as possible.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret 18 points19 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You need to get the guns and GTFO. Leave the guns somewhere safe and NOT where you are, like with your parents or a friend. She is recording incidents like that because she is going to trump up a domestic violence charge against you. Paging /u/Red-Curious as you are in deep shit right now.

[–]jakethesnake5000[S] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Rodger that. I’ll bring them to my parents house

[–]WesternhagenWinner 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Presuming that you trust your parents, sell them your guns for some nominal sum, and buy them back after it's all over.

Alternatively, find a private safe deposit box (NOT a bank box, which can be opened in a divorce case) and store them there. Something with no SSN required.

[–]Bedtimeshine 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude if your plan involves you loading up your guns, driving them to your parents, dropping them off, getting back in your car, driving home, and continuing to live there... you deserve to be stabbed.

[–]Frederick1992h 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol!

[–]Red-Curious 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

My response ended up being too long. I'll just make a post out of it. It may not be a popular one, but it's a strategy that can be incredibly effective when dealing with a mentally unstable and hostile wife in divorce litigation. Tag: /u/jakethesnake5000

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, this ought to be good!

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I haven't read your post history but I don't see this as depressed person. People who are depressed don't do things. It's in the definition of the disorder.

You are being setup. Pure and simple.

[–]jakethesnake5000[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Set up to catch a charge, you mean?

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

is there any other kind?

She was making your favorite meal then turned a knife on you. A depressed woman is usually in her fat clothes on the couch or bed. She was making a meal she knew would lower your guard.

[–]jakethesnake5000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s definitely possible. She usually is on the coach from the moment she gets home until sleep, gets no exercise and is gaining weight. I won’t rule out depression

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A charge up your ass. Called "getting killed." If you interpret that as a charge, go for it.

[–]Brickles09 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She'd love to stab you and then claim self-defense. Many women do that.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If you don't have kids you need to leave the residence immediately. She is planning to get you thrown in jail.

[–]jakethesnake5000[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Papers will be filed tonight and served by Friday. I need to get the hell out of there and cut all ties

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have kids? If not, do not even go home. Go to a friend/family member's

[–]smitty225 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You haven’t left yet?

[–]runnowxxx 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Domestic violence (or threat of it) should be an absolute deal breaker. GTFO and good luck! I’m 100% sure u’ll get past this as a stronger person.

[–]jcrptaRed Beret 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mate, all joking aside - I agree with everyone else.

This sort of shit is how domestic violence happens. If you are very, very lucky, it ends with you in jail for a few days/weeks and neither of you seriously injured.

If you're unlucky, one of you winds up dead.

So, do you feel lucky?

Well, do you, punk?

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I then said, “what are you going to do, eat me?” And laughed.

This was funny. The knife and the divorce situation is not. Good luck bro.

[–]RedPillCoach 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ready to leave marriage.

This is the point when you have the most power you have ever had - and with great power comes great responsibility. First on-site your safety. Lose the guns. Second, a Hail Mary might not be out of line. Third, you can only do what can be reasonably expected of you. That point is very near being reached. I would start to recruit allies. Talk to her family about the depression and how you are at your limit with this alleged wife. Tell her the boundaries and precisely what you expect from a wife. Do it calmly without getting flooded. This will probably not help but at least then you can kill the puppy without any guilt.

Most important is to protect yourself. I would record the come to Jesus meeting with the wife and my primary concern would be force protection.

[–]BlackFire68 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

my ex's both attacked me with knives... I have defensive wounds on my hands and arms that are healed now. Now, if I had even struck her back with my hand, I'd be incarcerated...

[–]FFDGTDS 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A buddy’s couch or a hotel/motel, whatever’s in the budget.

Otherwise as others have said, you’re heading to jail, hospital then jail, or worst case the morgue.

She’s wanting out and you’re gonna be the scapegoat.

The thing about domestic violence is that the first time you’re a victim, the next time(s) you’re a volunteer.

[–]innominating 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

GTFO

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret 6 points7 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]RedPillCoach 3 points4 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Let me confirm this is not a troll. This is what men deal with in modern relationships all to often. I can also confirm he is definitely not retarded or even slow on the uptake. He is way above average on intelligence! He has a wife who is likely mentally ill and does not want to leave her when she needs him most. It is a sad situation all around but there is no doubt Jake will land on his feet when the dust settles.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret 5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]RedPillCoach 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You would be shocked how many guys do that.

The Male Hamster is more powerful than the female version, and even more persistent.

[–]AnimalFactsBot 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Hamsters are very good diggers, they will create burrows in the soil that can be over half a meter deep, containing various rooms for different purposes.

[–]RedPillCoach 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes those bots hit it right out of the park.

[–]SteelSharpensSteel 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beautiful!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny...I'm thinking of holes in the ground approximately 2 meters deep. Containing just enough room for OP.

[–]gameoflibidos 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

this random animal fact bot made me laugh.

[–]SocialCupcake 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well....that's one way to die.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is unnecessarily and foolishly optimistic. A woman pulls a knife on Old Boy-a KNIFE, mind you-and he starts to A&A.

I believe that erring on the side of caution may be a better tack.

[–]RedPillCoach 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was never one to take the easy road and Jake is probably not either.

Besides, what would 'erring on the side of caution' look like? Change the locks and file a restraining order? Good luck making that stick. Move out and let her have the house? If we precipitously move out this may not make economic or practical sense. It's not like there are "Men's Shelters" and I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to rent a shithole in the ghetto. I for one would take a substantial risk of death before I voluntarily left my own house. However, I might break the rule about leaving your own bedroom and sleep in a different (locked) room with my faithful hound beside me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

However, I might break the rule about leaving your own bedroom and sleep in a different (locked) room with my faithful hound beside me.

Tsk, tsk...just trying to take the easy road. Beats filing a restraining order so that when the police receive a DV report on him, they won't be bothered with having to look up anything that could exonerate him, which some people may say, yes, looks like 'erring on the side of caution'.

Remember: Anytime a woman pulls a knife on you, do NOT take the easy road!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

He's a fucking genius! Wife pulls a knife on him, he dawdles about the homefront, pets the dog, puts on the cardigan...and plans on asking the little woman when the last time they had shepherd's pie for supper.

[–]RedPillCoach 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

He was stuck in the sunken cost fallacy, did his due diligence and went above and beyond the call of duty. Now he can end his marriage without a shred of guilt.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's lucky that he's got a shred of his scrotum left!

[–]hibloodstevia 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just sounds like the early part of a story where someone ends up saying, "and that's how I ended up in prison."

[–]Tampadev 4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Fucking NEXT dude. Bitch could kill you in your sleep if she wants.

[–]jakethesnake5000[S] 5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

We have a lot of guns in the house too, this is actually worrying me

[–]GroundbreakingDevil 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Relocate your armory ASAP. If you normally carry, stop for now. Don't leave her an opening to accuse you of threatening her with any of them, or possibly using one against you.

At the very least get a voice recorder and run it constantly, especially when you're together.

Turn on location tracking on your phone, keep tabs on yourself proactively to establish your whereabouts for an alibi if it's needed.

Leave her as little wiggle room as possible to make a plausible accusation that you cannot immediately disprove.

If she threatened you with a knife, you might want to put in for a protection order. Even if it's denied, being the one to request it first may work to your advantage if (when) she tries to get one.

Get the fuck out ASAP, live in your car if you need to; it's not worth "protecting your territory" by staying at home if you think she'd going to physically harm you or go for DV.

Good luck.

[–]SocialCupcake 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Quietly Take pics of all your guns and serial #s. save those pics to your drive or a disk. Move guns to a friend's or parents house w locks on them asap with 0 chance of her finding out as this will tip her off you're on the defense.

If you don't trust them you can remove the slides or barrels.

1 false drama hate filled accusation to the cops by her is all it takes to lose your guns.

Had an ex pull a Glock 26 on me threatening to kill me and then herself if I didn't tell her who I was cheating on her with. TLDR, SHE was the one cheating the whole time. I was broke and poor with no game.

Once they threaten harm, even jokingly. It's over. Subconsciously they hate you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't be worried She's only used knives.

This is a troll or something. Kind of like a Charles Grodin movie.

[–]RedPillNewb88 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont think I can say anything other than what has already been said. Leave!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have your cameras up around the house yet, Jake? If she's already this bold, she's bound to get sloppy.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 club pussies to fuck off 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You sir are one lucky fuck.

I would be 30K richer and my lawyer 30K poorer had my STBX wife done some shit like this.

To bad you are to fucking stupid to do anything about it.

Faggot.

[–]positiveredpill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

NEXT. NEXT. NEXT!

[–]FlyingSexistPig 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A smart man knows when to cut his losses and walk away.

A bad decision in the past (getting married) doesn't justify a bad decision now (staying married).

[–]gameoflibidos 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Leave, file papers, never communicate with her again except in recorded methods such as text and email.. and only for logistics such as sending movers to get your stuff.

Do not divulge new address to anyone that she might be able to get it from.

[–]helaughsinhidden 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"If a girl ever pulls out a knife on you during an argument, pull out some bread & mayo, her women instincts will kick in and she'll make you a sandwich" - From a 2012 Meme. Ok enough jokes.

She turned towards me with the knife and fork and stepped towards me and said “I told you to never touch me again.”

So, did she "pull a knife on you" or she already had a knife in her hand from cutting chicken, you annoyed her, she turned around and it was obviously still in her hand? Reminds me of the youtube clickbait.

In all seriousness from your other posts I think it's pretty conclusive that:

  1. You choose poorly. No matter how bluepilled, bitter, and sarcastic you get, it takes a special person to get this crazy. Plus, she went deadbedroom on you within 2 years of marriage.
  2. You lead poorly and haven't improved at all. You should have seen some improvements by now. She is deeply resentful because of what a piece of shit you've been and you think it somehow just disappeared.
  3. Everything about you is a joke. Including, but sure not limited to your frame, social skills, game, humor, ability to read the room, sense of boundaries, and your track record of owning your shit.
  4. Your frame is shit and you aren't internalizing this stuff fast enough. She would only do THIS BEHAVIOR to someone it would work on, feel me? She is treating you like an annoying step-child because you act like one.
  5. You knew she is upset with you provoked her any way. This speaks of a man who is very immature, insecure, and not self unaware. You are trying to get an angry and bitter woman's attention by being annoying.

I am going to refrain from calling you dumb, truth is that I recognize these patters as shit I used to do when I was a younger man. I drove a couple women away like this who moved on from me and never repeated this level of crazy again.

For your safety and to ease into divorce or separation, start to act like a fucking man. If John Wayne or James Bond wouldn't say it, don't let it pass your lips either. No more joking with this woman, don't poker her, pull her hair, shooting spit wads, tossing paper clips in her hair, or taunting her in any way. I want you to be happy my friend, but I kind of want to smack you a little bit myself too. I think you did choose poorly, but if you want to have better results in the future, check yourself, cause you gotta be a really a hard guy for any new woman to respect, follow, and love.

[–]BotPaperScissors -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Paper! ✋ We drew

[–]adeptintact 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only reason I could see why you haven't divorced her yet is because you have a kid. If you don't have kids, you should have divorced her a long time ago.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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