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3 days ago shit hit the fan again. My wife and I had this fight.

I work weird shifts (work in the harbour). So i had a few days off and we had a nice day. Went out to eat and had fun shopping with my daughter and wife. All was well. We got back home and i said i was going to put my daughter in bed. And i dozed off with her because i was tired also.

She woke me up all mad because i fell asleep and she was waiting for me to enjoy the evening and we had a long fight about it.

She claims that i dont give a fck and that she loves me more than i love her. And refuses to sleep in the same bed with me.

So we talked and talked untill i snapped. I just picked her up (thanks to lifting i could do that lol) and threw her on our bed. She starts laughing and we talked about it and all was fine.

The next day she felt like shit again. And the day after she is alll supernice and sweet and super caring.

And then it hit me...

Women are fcking crazy. This whole time i tought i swallowed the red pill.. i didnt. I treated her and talked to her like man. And i was getting frustrated why talking never helped.

Before it hit me i jumped in my car to get some eggs and i was amazed how much she was in a good mood.. then i said out loud.. she is just like a little girl.

Now i really know. I tought i knew but damn.. women are crazy. And the only thing they all want(yes i tought my wife was a bit different but shes not) is a fcking alpha that says wtsup without being a lil btch about it. Own ur shit dont fckup and treat her like a little girl. She yelled at me and i just talked tk her like my dad would talk. And it worked. She respected it...

I probably sound like an idiot but fck im amazed..

How did you guys take the red pill for the first time?


[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She needs a little comfort, bro. Give her a hug and tell her you love her, and do something nice for her. Then go back to being a hardass that won't type out cusswords

[–]drty_prRed Beret6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

and we had a long fight about it

Why? Why do you humor her shitty behavior by indulging in the activity she is trying for? Why waste anymore time than absolutely necessary (which is very little BTW) talking about nonsense? Stop being a pussy.

  • Her - "I can't fuckin believe you fell asleep tucking our daughter in! You are a monster Aquitas! I wanted to cuddle and watch Greys Anatomy"
  • You - "I was tired. I no longer am tired"
  • Her - "So you're going to watch Greys Anatomy with me??"
  • You - "No, that show is shit. I'm going to open this bottlen of wine and drink it on the back deck. You're should join me"

Conversation over and you walk outside.

[–]AquitasVeritas2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That would go something like this:

• Her - "I can't fuckin believe you fell asleep tucking our daughter in! You are a monster Aquitas! I wanted to cuddle and watch Greys Anatomy"

• You - "I was tired. I no longer am tired"

• Her - i am tired too. We are all tired. Be a fucking man and grow a pair. You just dont care about us. Yesterday when we were going to have sex you wasnt tired huh? You only think with your cock. Go do whatever the fuck you want to do. Im finished. Ill stay with you for the baby but dont expect nothinggg from me. Dont touch me dont approach me for sex.

• You - SUPERDEERING

Conversation over and you walk outside and she wont.. then i come inside and shes all crying over the floor.

And the next morning when all is over she will be waking me up by grabbing my dick.

Its gonna be more like that...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her - i am tired too. We are all tired. Be a fucking man and grow a pair. You just dont care about us. Yesterday when we were going to have sex you wasnt tired huh? You only think with your cock. Go do whatever the fuck you want to do. Im finished. Ill stay with you for the baby but dont expect nothinggg from me. Dont touch me dont approach me for sex.

Dude I live in this bullshit. You have to chuckle this off and walk away. Its all bullshit as /u/reddjive says. You cant control what she does, and if she wants to act this way --- you cant tolerate it, you need to walk away. But, you can't let it bother you. Toss it in the trash and go about your life.

[–]BlindNowhereMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you shitting me? All you say is "Why didn't you just wake me up?"

Don't tolerate being accused of not doing something you where not asked to and agreed to do. It a shittest.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If that conversation happened with me I would have opened the door

Looked at her.

There's nothing stopping you.

Realize you live with an emotional terrorist. Also.....man the fuck up and don't fall asleep tucking your kid in. Jesus. That's weak shit.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

emotional terrorist

If momma's not happy then nobody is happy means that momma is an emotional terrorist.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She only says these things because you have rewarded her by reacting to it. There are 2 ways to handle a bully. Ignore her until she acts right...or put them over your knee and teach them a lesson.

I would try ignoring bad behavior and consistently leaving. She will continue to rant and rave but at least you won't have to hear it.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This has also been a big revelation to me. I am admittedly still processing this particular aspect of TRP. As "equals" in my prior BP fantasy world, I would expect her to behave and act very similarly to me. Responsible and rational etc. Then, I kept reading on MRP about thinking of her as the "most responsible teenager in the house". At first I thought, "Damn! What a dickheaded way to think about your wife!"

I started reading various anecdotes from others on here about the subject. Then, I started reading similar signals from my wife and the theory plays out as true. When she's grumpy, depressed, or pissed off. You should typically treat her like a pouty little girl. Pick her up and spin her around, piss her off, tickle her, tease her.

She claims that i dont give a fck and that she loves me more than i love her.

Your response: "Do you want me to call the wambulance?" (with your must ridiculous sad face and frown).

We are co-partners with our wives. Hence the captain and firstmate analogy. We are not equals. My wife can't deadlift worth shit, but if she could lift what I could I probably wouldn't be attracted to that man of a woman. We bring stability, rational thinking, and masculinity to the relationship. She brings her feminine qualities and brings things to the table we cannot. Together it works.

Treating her tantrums like you would a little girl is an easier way to see the absurdity of it all and practice amused mastery much better. It is a good approach in my opinion even though I found it off putting during the initial swallow as well.

[–]AquitasVeritas0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is exactly what im experiencing. And sometimes i do want to react like that (wambulance). But i question myself.. is that too rambo if i do that now?

How do i know if im going too rambo?

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just be playful and not too condescending.

Rambo is stepping things up too soon. She needs time to catch up.

For example, I never really slapped my wife's ass much. Been doing it about 2 months now. She now will slap back, playfully kick, etc. It took some time to do this slowly, but it is fun.

[–]BirdManBrrrr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When she's grumpy, depressed, or pissed off. You should typically treat her like a pouty little girl. Pick her up and spin her around, piss her off, tickle her, tease her.

Works with my wife also. She'll pretend to not like it but watch her mood change afterwards. You have to not take her moods seriously.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I tought I taw a putty tat.

[–]AustralianArm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did, I did, taw a putty tat!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Progress

[–]InvincibleKraken1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're calling her crazy and a like a little girl but then you're censoring words in your post like we can't handle it. Maybe you're too concerned about what other people think. Maybe you need to learn STFU, DNGAF, and OI?

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

she loves me more than i love her. And refuses to sleep in the same bed with me.

Well that makes sense. More proof that women aren't very good at logic.

then i said out loud.. she is just like a little girl.

Welcome...to the real world.

[–]Garblix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I treated her and talked to her like man"

I made that mistake a lot. It took me many, many months to fully break that completely and even now, every once in awhile I will catch myself talking to her like I would a male friend when I am trying to explain something. Luckily, through repetition, I recognize it either before I start or just as I am starting to do it and I kill it quick.

[–]lizerpetty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm late here, and a chick, but I have some advice. When you get this behavior again. Hold frame and remain calm as a cucumber. Wait for her to finish and ask her tough questions. For example: "Do you feel this is important to have a fight over?" "Do you think I was trying to make you angry?" Also my husband and I have an agreement made before we got married. No disrespectful behavior, no cussing at each other. (In fact our vows were "to honor and respect each other") If/when she cusses at you. Tell her "I don't like this disrespectful behavior" or ask her "Do you think your behavior is appropriate?" Ask yourself "would she behave this way at work/in public/ around friends?" If the answer is no, then call her on her bullshit by helping her see the error in her ways.

Men can be just as crazy as women. There is no race, gender, or nationality that has all the crazy. It's peppered among us all. (Except white people do tend to be more of the serial killer type I will say that). Rational women do exist just not on this sub much.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

You should try to introduce her to /r/RedPillWomen or at least maybe buy her some of the books geared towards red pill for women, like the things that Laura Doyle has put out. It sounds to me like she doesn't know how to manage her feelings. Just like the guys that are clueless before taking their first steps, the women are too.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, red knight her. Thats a great idea.

Yikes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Not sure what you think it wrong with rpw. It's nothing like what's given to guys. Given her shrew attitude she could use it.

[–]drty_prRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you send your wife to RPW?

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you want to let the cat out of the bag I recommend letting her read "Frist Kill All the Marriage Counselors" by Laura Doyle.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not saying there isn't value in RPW, but that seems too close to talking about fight club. Pretty easy for her to connect the dots to TRP and MRP and then your fucked. We saw what happens when a wife realizes her husband is on MRP a day or two ago. It wasn't pretty. So, just make sure you tell her you are the "alpha male" when you hand RPW over to her.

Alternatively, as captain, reading Doyles' books yourself and then trying to lead your wife into those principles could have value. For example, she advocates for self care for women. So, make sure you wife is getting that time to herself etc. and the same for the other principles. It just needs to be done more indirectly and more discreetly than popping open Reddit and sending her to RPW. "Here you go hun! Oh, and the kitchen knives are over there in case you want to stab me in the back."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't mean to suggest that OP lay this on her like a ton of falling bricks, maybe I wrongly assumed he'd be able to infer the need to exercise some for of tact with his particular woman. Thanks for the additional clarification.

[–]A_RexRED KNIGHT0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Was going to call you a troll, realized you're a woman.

Imagine your husband/bf comes to you and gives you a book and web link on how not to act like a cunt, because your attitude is making him sad and upset.

And then tell us how it would go when you learn that everything he's been doing for the last few months was taken from an internet message board comprised of autists and fat (or formerly) fat dweebs.

Bet your panties are ready to fall off now, right?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The problem that I'm trying to point out is that there don't seem to be solutions that cater to issues that might also be the other party. When you've got a bad horse you don't tell the rider to only get better at riding, go practice roping, and come back. You train it and yourself. You identify if your equipment is causing trouble. You don't just sit there and say, gee if only my calf tying times were faster, I'm sure my horse would neck rein better then.

If you're lazy maybe you get a new one that someone else has trained, but even if you do that you're still breaking old habits from the previous owners.

As a side note, if a woman can't own/see that she is contributing to her spouses poor attitude then she's really not relationship quality. The scenario you suggest isn't hard at all for me to imagine because in my relationship dynamic he does tell me when I'm out of line. Imo inability for either person in a pair to actually call the other out on their idiocy smacks of immaturity or some sort of weird latent fear. I want to contribute to the happiness of my husband, when I'm not I want to know so I can fix it, which means taking his suggestions, considering them, and trusting him. It doesn't really matter where/who the ideas came from, the fact that he thinks they're good is proof enough for me that they have value and I respect his judgement. Questioning and going on witch hunts undermines all of that and is unproductive for the household that I choose to live in.

[–]rocknrollchuck0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

if a woman can't own/see that she is contributing to her spouses poor attitude then she's really not relationship quality

Most everyone here has a spouse that can't, or won't, see this. If a straightforward conversation to bring understanding was the key, then most of us would have fixed this problem long ago. Below is the only suggestion I have seen that has any chance of working for the majority of men here:

How to Get Your Wife to "Get" Your Way

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't mean to suggest that it's easy, far be it. I struggle every day to make sure I'm doing as I should and am constantly looking to identify issues. A lot of people though, male and female, don't seem to see much of a need for introspection or self evaluation, so you get shrews for wives and whatever the male equivalent is. I think it's beneficial for any spouse to suggest their partner practice introspection. Maybe not today, or next week, but it's a valuable skill to have just to go through life and I can't help but feel bad for those that lack it.

I also fully agree with the article mentioned. I'm way more comfortable with my husband steering. He lets me work out the details and make it just right, but ultimately he can have at the bigger picture.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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