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I have done a lot of reflecting based on my previous post. I decided that I was ready to lay the law down, or move on.

On Friday I told my wife she needs to fix the pictures back calmly. She fobbed me off. I fogged and asserted, she brought out a camcorder supposedly to record me being aggressive "I'm recording this as evidence, this is illegal abuse". Cunt. 30 minutes later, I told her she has the weekend to fix them, and to fix everything that she has fobbed me on earlier. I told her any mention of legal/cop threat is an instant divorce. I told her she needs to get her last name sorted, and a bunch of other things I asked her about before. Saturday went by with nothing happening. In the background on Saturday I went and rented a place nearby. Paid 6 months rent upfront, not waiting for any credit crap delay. The reality is that I decided that this is that and I no longer want this cunt to be with me. On Sunday she went out with some friends. I packed her shit up and took it to this place. I packed the kids stuff and sent it as well - I told my kids they are free to stay in the existing house whenever they want. I had the locks to the house changed. I texted her that she needs to go to the other place when she's back. She comes around - the kids are there, in their new rooms. Food in the fridge, clothes where they should be. Absolutely stunned, she says she's going to the old place anyway. I told her the locks are changed and the beds are all out (I did that on purpose).

Then I hanged around for a bit, made sure the kids are fed and ready for bed, she went out dunno where to, then she came back. I told her I'll be seeing the kids in the evening. then left to my place. Last night was the first of a very quiet nice night. Previously I thought I would be emotional and shit - I was stunned to feel very relieved - as if the weight of a thousand handcuffs have been taken off . For the first time there is no tinkering around with the phone at night, no rudeness in the morning, I put stuff somewhere and it's left where left it. The feeling of freedom and exhilaration is awesome. Well, apart from the fact that every bone and muscle in my body is hurting from 7 hours of work to move things from the old house to the new place.

This morning I filed the papers and told my lawyer she's on board - i discussed the moving family home details previously and she thought it was in the clear. I made sure to hire the meanest bitch possible, she understand women very very well.

So that is that. Perhaps not the best boner raging RP success story, but I'm moving on. The only things I want to nail down now are 1) the divorce 2) talking to the kids. 8 year old and 10 year old. I always had them trusting me despite her trying to weaponise them multiple times. They understand what is going on and have told her multiple times to shut up when she was being cunty in front of them - they have better AM than me on her. I explained to them that I want the best for them and I'll be around always. I gave them a phone. I want them to feel that I'm not abondoning them. Any hints or experience as to anything further I need to do with them are appreciated.


[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well now you will need frame of steel. Don't know about your countries local laws, but moving forward you should make every effort to document behavior and actions. If possible get a voice recorder (VAR). Make an effort to email all offers of care, or assets exchange etc.

In the state I live in, a VAR is perfectly legal, as it's a one party consent state. Even in 2 party consent states there's times when consent is implied, or even when used illegally it can keep a man from getting a false claim of domestic abuse filed against him. Tread carefully as only you know your soon to be exes capability, but a woman who claims "abuse" so easily should not be trusted.

Make every effort to keep things calm. Use the surrender tactic especially and move to make it so that you don't seem aggressive. Your number one priority is favorable terms for your divorce. Freeze accounts, freeze credit, stop direct deposit, etc. DONT FUCK HER. If your local jurisdiction has a jilted lover clause, don't go getting strange until a legal separation is met.

Steel yourself, it's going to get worse.

[–]atlhartRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're not in a locality that allows one party consent, then make an effort to document everything. Take notes. Right down what you said/what you agreed to. Date it. Fuck, even provide her with a copy. But document your conversations.

And don't meet privately/one on one with her. If you do, do it in a public place. Always have people around so she can't accuse you of abuse.

[–]Redpillbrigade170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. 10x upvote.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Just one more thing, women change from reasonable to homicidal mean with the flip of a switch. You just flipped her switch.

The old saying,.....burn down your house to get rid of the rat....

You are now the rat.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

sometimes your insight is scary. Like watching a preview.. where you sure are glad its not you... or is it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

My ex said something similar about killing the rat.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's too bad a woman going full on psycho isn't illegal, yet a man doing his equivalent is.

Men with guns coming to take you away tends to be a great temperer of stupidity

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

When a woman goes psycho, she can usually get a restraining order on the MAN! A man even talks about psycho stuff and he gets room and board at the local jail. Ask any woman, they think it is fair to them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Being born in fighting country, I've learned long ago, all that your ego gets you is missing teeth.

Remember being at Cactus Jacks in my hometown (bar with a confedorate flag and hay bales in it) guy was part of the citywife mechanical bull challenge. Guy was pranked, they cut off his pony tail he had grown for the last 7 years.

Didn't think anything of it. Came outside to have a smoke, three bouncers had him outside, he was squealing like a pig, lost a tooth and cracked a rib. Learned a lot from that random bullrider

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Being Rupunzel only works if you have tits

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Couldve been worse. He could have been mean to one of the east indian girls. Instead of 3 bouncers, it could have been 20 angry sikh cousins

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One does not simply be mean to a girl with middle eastern family

[–]atlhartRed Beret4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That's balls of steel. Well done.

Regarding your wife, I think you're doing the right thing. She's fucking crazy. You put up boundaries and she broke them without hesitation. Get the fuck out of there. Be free from that. Improve your life. Move on.

Don't forget that improving your life requires more than just ditching your marriage. You need to fix yourself. Remember, the reason you married her and the reason she went full bitch is because of you. It was your fault. You were the problem. But also remember, knowing that means you can fix it. You can improve. You can have a better life.

I only wish you could take your kids with you. She is going to try to turn them against them. My recommendation: do not speak ill about her to your children, ever. Tell them to respect her. Tell them to behave. Be an ear for them to speak to. Your wife will fill their life with negativity. Even if she endagers your children, do not speak ill of her to them. Remove them from her custody. Keep them safe. But tell them "Your mom is having some trouble, we'll hope she gets better". If you serve as a source of positive energy for them, they will be drawn to you no matter what she does or says. Be there for them. Maybe you're a great father now. You can be better. Soccer games, school performances, homework. Be the best father and your kids will notice. They will see her for what she is. As long as you are there as a wonderful father, they will come to you.

[–]johnnycakeAK1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Def +1 on being positive and refraining from bitching about their mom to the kids. I also think it is very valid for you to make sure the kids know they can tell their mom to not talk about you to them, if that is what they wish.
That is what my dad did in the divorce, and though my mom never respected our wishes and to this day bad mouths him as much as possible, none of the 5 kids buy her crap anymore and few of us still talk to her. Instead, we have rebuilt or maintained strong connections to him. Was he perfect as a dad? far from it, but he did try to be engaged, fun and respectful and that was crucial for us.

[–]jacksarmy1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm sceptical that children do come round to the father's point of view, I'd be planting seeds saying your mother's mad in a jokey way so they won't take everything she says seriously. If your always telling them to respect their mother etc it just reinforces how right she is. Maybe just don't mention her

[–]atlhartRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You've got to teach your kids to be respective and what is appropriate behavior. Their mother is an adult responsible for their care. It might suck, but they need to follow her rules when I'm her care. Also just makes it easier for them. Teach them to Fog until their 18 and don't have to deal with her anymore.

As far as coming around, it worked for me. Parents divorced when I was 6. My mother bad mouthed my dad every day, in fact almost 30 years later (and almost 10 years since he died), she still bad mouths him every chance she gets. He only said one negative thing about her when I was 18 and she and I had just had a argument. He said "Your mother can be tough to deal with. She was spoiled by her father, and I didn't help by making so much money while we were together. She's a spoiled person and always wants what she wants".

That's literally the worst thing he ever said about her even though she's crazy and was terrible to him.

[–]brattykids123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I need a bunch of these stories cause this is what is killing me and what's been holding me back.

[–]CaptJohnLukeDiscard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent point regarding being positive for the kids!

[–]milkywayer1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Femenist 'dont need no man' type.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Everyone here is giving you very good advice.

I have been through this many years ago. The only thing that I would emphasize and re-emphasize to you: Avoid as much contact with your SoonToBeEx (STBE) as possible.

Any contact with your STBE is a dangerous situation that is to be avoided if possible, and/or, to be handled with the greatest possible care.

The mistake many men make (I did) is that feeling of freedom you get makes you feel that you can handle anything this woman throws at you. That is wrong. She proved that she was so cunty that you are divorcing her, do not go SoonToBe Divorced Rambo man here. It will cost you money time and aggravation that you are trying to leave behind, and, it will affect your kids. You can control this for you and your kids.

Second, spend as much time as possible with your kids, in spite of her. Keep your attitude and spirits up with them. You are improving your life here, playing "guilty dad" is of no help to them. Do not let your internal struggles become theirs.

Been there, done that, and I have the scars and the merit badges to show.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

scars and the merit badges to show

Reminds me of the guys who come back from deployment without any new shiny ribbons. Happy as fuck without those ribbons. The "hero's" are always damaged.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

My version of self-depreciating humor. Little boys get merit badges. Men get the scars, but avoid ever showing them.

Amazing to me that I have put things "out there" on this sub, that, I have literally never said to another living human, ever. Other than this sub, it will never be out there for anyone in the future either.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

because you see a lot of guys who can wind up like you, or guys who think that being you sounds fun. And that gives you feelz, and you want to tell them to stop.

That is called mentoring among men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Anonymity is the nice warm blanket. Both teaching the next generation of men, and articulating your thoughts, to avoid becoming emotional to them anymore.

It only works when there's no social cost to it, and IRL always has a social cost to a man being honest with his tribe. They don't want to know, they just want the effects

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

They don't want to know, they just want the effects

Probably the most painful part of the whole thing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Really? I find it to be the opposite.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

just because after you lance a boil you feel better, doesn't mean lancing the boil didnt hurt.

Also, we had different childhoods/ young adulthoods.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

It's freeing, childhood aside.

It's not a boil, it's a shitty illusion. See those guys who get out of a false prison sentance after a few years? They look absolutely exstatic, you'd think it would be painful and bitter for them.

Difference between regret, and forward thinking.

Also, now that you know that these obligations aren't actually obligations, you can be free to do what you please. Who wouldn't want that?

No one cares, so I'll do my thing without an ounce of guilt

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

you are maybe confusing past tense and present.

Do what you want. Want people who would be on the line with me to give a fuck, or at least act the part. When they do not, it hurts. Because trust was breached.

Actions are the same. Let go of those who do not meet your needs and standards. But tearing off adhesive still not a pleasant experience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

I guess so. I'd say the military made it easier more than anything.

The part that bothered me the most was how little it bothered me at all...

[–]sixdownsevenup2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just trying to understand the present situation - are there no provisions for your children to stay with you at the (former) family home? Don't know what you are wanting with regards to custody - but am assuming that your attorney is advising you on this relative to what you want.

[–]brattykids123[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not a fight I'm likely to win (full custody), so I'm not going to fight it. Acting possessive of them is likely to make it worse.

[–]sixdownsevenup0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see. Sounds like you have thought through that.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Joint Custody is a fight you can win however. Talk to your lawyer. Even if you lost the full custody battle, your kids will see that you fought for them. In about 3 years when they hit the preteen stage, guess who they are going to want to move in with? Yep, Daddy and his new girlfriend.....

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I told my kids they are free to stay in the existing house whenever they want.

What did your lawyer advise? Beyond that, seems pretty fucking straight forward, this is exactly what an MRP story is.

Man has goal, man meets goal, man owns what he can own, and disregards what he cannot.

The trick is to still be this on-point after the manipulation comes... Oh, and it will come, unless she was checked out a while ago, in which case you finally killed the puppy.

Mentally, you're prepared for the understanding that she's already had a new dick in her, right? Also prepared for the fact she will accuse you of abuse as well right? She will do this to weaponize the kids against you. This is why I'm concerned that you dropped the family off for her... I dont' get why the lawyer didn't advise you to keep them in the house at all

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As soon as the video recording started I would consider the marriage over. Good on you OP for cutting this cancerous BP bitch out of your life. Now do not fuck anyone until the divorce is over and you are 100% in the clear. Keep your lawyer in the loop about everything and do whatever the hell she tells you to do even if you don't want to. Don't worry about the kids, they will be fine in the long run so long as you consistently love them and make them feel important to you.

[–]RPShitlord1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Congrats on slickly moving the bitch out!

Would not be possible in the US.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

bad-ass way to regain frame.

Honesty, I was a big worried, because telling her to put things back put her in control. You could have just moved 'em back yourself. But that would create a stupid war over who was home last. This was better. Draw a boundary, defend it.

Let us know how it goes.

[–]zeteomegaleio1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That is some solid, impressive decision and action.

I'm sure she will try to apologize and get back together with you some time in the next 1-3 days. When you don't cave, she will go nuclear and try to ruin you in this divorce.

Make sure you are mentally prepared for every cunty maneuver and tactic. She will not play fair whatsoever; women are emotional terrorists, especially feminists with kids involved. Take everyone's advice here about documenting every interaction. Don't get sucked into traps. Do NOT fuck her, and you should avoid fucking anyone else too. This is one period of life where jerking off is preferable to sex.

Your sole goal is to get the best outcome you can in the divorce. You can begin to relax a little after it is finalized, but never get too comfortable. Until then, scrutinize and be alert of everything she does or does not do.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone posted before. If she does, 'surrender' say maybe, never say no. Say you were hurt and need time to think.

Say you just don't know, and you have to think about it. Wax poetic about the good times, say whatever goodfeels you need to prevent drawing lines in the sand.

not until it's too late to change anything

[–]nastynickdrRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do not fuck her, do not touch her, do not yell at her, do not be with her on a one-on-one situation. All communication via lawyer/email/any method that can be shown as evidence. She WILL try to manipulate you, she knows where your buttons are and will push them, do not cave. Completely professional from now on, no feelz involved. If she starts to go apeshit instantly grab your phone and start recording.

[–]JDRoedellRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice work. A small win for masculinity but a huge win for you. Gotta admit, i did not expect this when I read your title.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

On Sunday she went out with some friends. I packed her shit up and took it to this place. I packed the kids stuff and sent it as well - I told my kids they are free to stay in the existing house whenever they want. I had the locks to the house changed.

Where were the kids during all this? With mom?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I told her the locks are changed and the beds are all out (I did that on purpose).

I told my kids they are free to stay in the existing house whenever they want.

Also, did you think this part through?

[–]brattykids123[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

going to address this since it came up a few times - sending the kids and the wife establishes where the matrimonial home is. Sending her on her own gives her the option to force entry once again through the court. Separating her from the kids right now is a fight I'm not going to win and is likely making me worse so no. I have access to the new place and intend to visit regularly - sorting out the whole place establishes that I'm looking after the family and I'm not bolting. The existing place is in my name only, one of the few correct things i did, so that makes things easier.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. Seems like a good plan.

Tis funny though, separating the kids from a parent when kicking her out is a bad thing. Had she kicked you out, youd have little recourse.

Not going to lie, wasnt expecting any follow through on you map. Pleasantly aurprised to see I was wrong.

Hope you stick to your guns until the end.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, so in one weekend you rented a whole new place, moved her and your kids out to this new house, and left them there? Left your kids alone with psycho bitch?

Who cares about some old pictures. (It's not the pictures you enjoy anyway, it's the memories they remind you of.) I'm having a hard time seeing where leaving the kids with her is a good play. Why not just move out all of your personal stuff you care about into a mini storage and keep just your clothes and bare essentials. I just don't see the play here.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm recording this as evidence, this is illegal abuse".

What does this despicable harpy add to your life again?

I was stunned to feel very relieved - as if the weight of a thousand handcuffs have been taken off .

That is exactly what has happened. You have thrown off the shackles and the fear of this woman. Watch her come crawling around begging to fuck you now. I know how they behave and think but it still pisses me off.

So GRATZ! I think you have made the right move. This woman reacted like a cheating wife. Her emotional and sexual needs are being met elsewhere. You can count on it. Your lawyer needs to get her statement that she was not cheating (probably in answer to your Complaint) and THEN you need to hire a PI to prove she is a lying, cheating cunt. Post video to her FB account and all her little FB friends.

Finally, don't focus on your soon to be ex-wife. That is for the lawyers to figure out. Focus on you. In less than a year you will have a younger, hotter, and MUCH nicer woman worshiping your cock. Count on it.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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