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Red Pill TheoryGaylube Oil's Expectation Test (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil

Next time your with a woman ask her what qualities make a good husband/boyfriend. Carefully collect her mouth diarrhea in a zip lock bag. (Optional) Distract her with an irrelevant question such as what she thinks about the objectification of women in the Anaconda music video, so she doesn't figure out your plan to expose the double standard. Then ask her what qualities make a good girlfriend and collect the mouth diarrhea in another zip lock bag. Now compare the weight of the diarrhea bags.

What you're going to find is that western and western influenced women expect a lot more from men than they're willing to give in return. Women shouldn't be judged for their bodies but that fat dude is a creep. I needed time to find myself but men without a good income are losers. My husband needs to be there for me, but if I sense any emotional weakness ill be gone faster than Jose Canseco during a piss test.

Why are all women like this?

Because all her life, the only thing that was expected of her was for her to bring her vagina. It got her into parties and clubs. It got her drugs. It might have even helped her get a job that she was less qualified for. The corporate media taught her that as a vagina operator, men owed her tons of free shit. The movies and shows that she defines herself by depict women as passive objects to be showered in male affection. Diamonds are a girls best friend (because women are incapable of real friendship).

Its foolish to expect any equality in a relationship because society conditions women to be selfish assholes. When a women says that she will be there for her boyfriend. She means in the literal physical sense. Depressed men are unattractive and women have no interest being anywhere near them. Ultimately, most women only bring to relationships what they bring to the club: vagina.

There are two ways to respond to this Red Pill truth. You can use women for their vaginas and nothing else. Or you can teach her to cook, workout and whatever else you expect out of a LTR. In the end all you get by default is vagina, unless she stops being attracted to you. If that's the case she has a headache.

If you doubt my assertion that all (attractive young) women are like that, go ahead and conduct Gaylube Oil's Relationship Expectation Test. Also I'm bigger than you. Follow me on twitter @GayLubeOil.


[–][deleted] 259 points260 points  (7 children)

"that fat dude is a creep."

"Oh he owns the LA basketball team? Maybe I judged him superficially."

[–]Surf_Or_Die 39 points40 points  (6 children)

Haha indeed.

LA is one of the WORST places for this. So many hot young women come here to start off their modelling or acting career and they end up blowing every old guy and director in the city for scraps. The vast majority never make it anywhere. You can see these bitches at every Lakers, Kings or Dodgers game in the booths and court-side seats etc.

[–]WillClickOnAnything 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure I'm seeing them on PornHub too.

[–]elchoma90 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I used to make extra cash from 17 till 20 years of age by finding hot chicks to participate in a Hispanic TV show in LA county. All I did was make some business cards with the show logo and approach every girl at the mall. You'd be amazed how much head I got from bimbos. Dumb idiots thought being on a shit TV show was their gateway to stardom. In reality they just got $200 cash for showing some skin and making out with strangers.

If you wanna have some fun approach hot chicks and tell them you're a producer who thinks they'd be great on TV. Watch their faces go :D and be super, SUPER nice to you.

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    [–]elchoma90 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    It really is. After the show I'd ask the one giving the most clear IOIs (I used to bring the 9 chicks for the show all myself) to come for drinks with me. I used the money I made ($50 per girl lol) to pretend high value by taking the girl in question to the same bar as the rest, I was a regular they appreciated a lot since I brought in hot pussy and spent a lot on drinks. I knew everyone there including all the bartenders and they'd serve me water instead of tequila haha I'd only pay for her drinks while pretending shots were nothing for me nor physically or monetarily. After -$100 or less I'd take her to a motel I was also a regular at. I got special discounts and even hourly rates. I was losing around %35 of my easy made money but this NEVER EVER FAILED ME. At the end of the month I still had over 3K all for me which at the time was awesome since I had 0 responsibilities.

    If you can get in the business and dont suffer approach anxiety then do not think twice. I can only imagine the kind of life the real big shots must have. Too bad that show got canceled after 9 seasons and now here I am getting dirt on my hands lol It's OK though, I'm still a regular at that bar

    [–]XMATIC_4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is Black Knight material right here!

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    this must be the most effective pick up method in the world IF the girl bought the idea

    [–]SanguineThought 54 points55 points  (13 children)

    Funny, I did a similar experiment with my wife. I asked her to list the top 5 traits that make for a great husband/life partner. In order she said:

    1) emotionaly available 2) honesty/loyalty 3) hard working 4) generous 5) caring 6) romantic 7) selfless

    My only follow up was, "so anyone who has these traits would be an excellent life partner for you?"

    Her response was, "... well, I'd have to be attracted to them romantically, there would have to be chemestry, but yes."

    The next day I asked her what are the top 5 traits she finds attravtive/sexy. She answered:

    1) exciting 2) adventurous 3) buff/hot 4) is extroverted/has a lot of friends 5) decisive

    She was amazed that her two lists were different. Never thought about it before.

    [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 49 points50 points  (4 children)

    Beta bucks:

    1) emotionaly available 2) honesty/loyalty 3) hard working 4) generous 5) caring 6) romantic 7) selfless

    1) Commitment.

    2) Commitment isn't going anywhere.

    3) Acquires wealth (specifically secondary to being committed and loyal to her.)

    4) That money is getting spent on her.

    5) Amalgamation of both money and emotions being directed towards her.

    6) Easy to control, doesn't make her feel cheap

    7) values himself less than her.

    Alpha fucks:

    1) exciting 2) adventurous 3) buff/hot 4) is extroverted/has a lot of friends 5) decisive

    1) tingles

    2) tingles

    3) tingles

    4) tingles/status

    5) tingles.

    LOL, you can't make this shit up.

    [–]humankin 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    My list is a little different:

    1) emotionaly available 2) honesty/loyalty 3) hard working 4) generous 5) caring 6) romantic 7) selfless

    1. listens to my bullshit
    2. won't cheat
    3. money
    4. money & signals high status to my girlfriends
    5. easy to control
    6. signals my high status to my girlfriends
    7. easy to control

    [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Same sentiment. I like your list too.

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

    Its shows that there are three ways women view men. As fucking losers (omega). As "marriage material"/boyfriend material (beta). And as arousing panty wetting sexy (alpha)

    [–]SanguineThought 37 points38 points  (3 children)

    More like 2 ways, 1 you have something I want 2 you don't exist.

    [–]1KyfhoMyoba 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    If I knew how to give gold I would give you some. It's now been 7 minutes since I read that and I'm still laughing my ass off.

    [–]2johnnight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    His sentence is true, but it's missing the key point of TRP, which is AF/BB. Conflating the two dimensions into one is a big mistake.

    Men were always aware that women are attracted by money, but they thought this is the same thing as arousal. And so they went forth to work themselves into the ground, hoping that more provisioning will give them more love. Biggest, fucking mistake.

    [–]humankin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The "give gold" words right next to the "reply" words. You'll need internetable monies though.

    [–]rztzz 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    If it was more like 3 days apart it could mean she was ovulating. Women are programmed to prefer alphas when she's ovulating, aka the 5 days per months she can get pregnant

    [–]humankin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This also may be why women sometimes loathe their men once they get off the pill.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 45 points46 points  (6 children)

    GLO hits another one. I come from a different perspective but reach the exact same conclusion. My wife is a professional who brings a LOT more to the table than her vagina. She decided long ago she was never going to depend on a man for Beta Bucks, has a job as a business lawyer, and brings in almost 5 times my income.

    However, she was flummoxed at this little test. She had a LOOOONG list of what the man was supposed to do and when asked what the woman was supposed to do? Stutter, stutter, ummm, umm, laugh, heh, heh, umm...well...blowjobs?

    Now that is what I call bringing more than the vagina!

    [–]1KyfhoMyoba 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Isn't she a lawyer, BPProf? Ask her what 'consideration' she brings to the contract - or is it an unconscionable contract?

    Wow. I'd expect this from some median IQ Peg Bundy-esque lay-about, but someone with a graduate degree that earns 6 figures +? They can't even think on their feet fast enough to come up with ... SOMETHING?!?!?!

    edit: I guess this goes to show you that women really do think of themselves as entitled.

    [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Tell her when she licks her lips and stares at your crotch that's an invitation to treat.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    GLO's point in this thread and what is exposed by the Expectation Test is that women BRING NOTHING TO A LTR EXCEPT THEIR VAGINA. My wife's answer was perfect because she understood his point intuitively. The ONLY "Expectation" in a relationship is that the woman will bring her vagina. Everything and anything else is just gravy. Even if you are like me and one of the rare lucky ones to get more than the vagina, trust me, the vagina is all that really matters. All the trips, all the 5-star restaurants and the time shares in Bermuda and St. Lucie, and those front Row tickets to Journey and the Eagles, and that ridiculously expensive 12 day Northern European capitals cruise...None of it means shit without V-A-G-I-N-A. I say that authoritatively, thus, the ONLY thing a woman brings to a LTR is her VAGINA.

    [–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (11 children)

    "Carefully collect her mouth diarrhea in a zip lock bag." Got my god damn trash bag out for this one. Great post.

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      [–]12FAM0US 27 points28 points  (5 children)

      lol i can fit my entire girlfriend inside some of those bags

      [–]WalkableBuffalo 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      Should probably avoid doing that

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        [–]Mex-I-can 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Well he's not lying, his hand would probably fit nicely.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This isn't this one of the three in the Dark Triad?

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          [–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (84 children)

          In the end all you get by default is vagina

          This is pretty true. Red pill women are made, not found.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 60 points61 points  (23 children)

          Red pill women are made, not found.

          Can confirm, they are indeed like pokemon. When I found my 19y/o LTR she already did yoga, knew how to cook (still lives with her family, 2 siblings, parents in a happy patriarchal marriage) and is going to college to be a math major (actually intelligent / interested in the subject and shares cute little equations and shit with me as a pastime).

          Had to train her out of social shyness, awkwardness, lack of fashion sense and very jerky, un-subtle movements.

          Easily a 9/10 LTR now because she's had an extremely low partner count before me. Cooks, cleans, buys me little presents like scent candles & shit, runs errands & has never failed to follow a command. AWALT but so far so good.

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            [–]1junk2sa 28 points29 points  (5 children)

            Shy girls. Even though AWALT, they are generally the better finds.

            [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 50 points51 points  (4 children)

            Yeah, lack of access to validation/attention and a more humble disposition make for a far more attractive girl. Not all this excessive unfounded superficial confidence women try to emulate because they find it attractive in men.

            [–]1junk2sa 27 points28 points  (0 children)

            Oh god, exactly. Superficial confidence is such a pain in the ass and fake. The humble girls are the ones that make you want to man up and take the lead.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            humble disposition make for a far more attractive girl.

            This x1000. Also, she legitimately doesn't wear (or even own - I've seen her purse, room and bathroom) makeup except for eyeliner and is about an 8/10 looks wise without it because she eats healthy and exercises regularly.

            Been seeing her 1-2x a week while dating around for over a year now, I'm not finding anything that measures up.

            [–]8lp 8 points9 points  (3 children)

            Just undo the ponytail and take off her glasses and overalls. Voila!

            [–]thesaltysoup 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            Overalls? Oh god, is she an outer party member? Never have sex in the same place twice, man...

            [–]FreakingMonroe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            OHMYSHIT. I got that reference. That book, Animal Farm, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451are some of my fucking favorites.

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 17 points18 points  (2 children)

            Had a virgin like that, except she was rather homely. I ignored her fucked up teeth and plain looking face because of who she was. I assumed nobody else would want her because of how she looked, skinny but not hot. Guess what she did after nine years together and me getting sick for six months. Started fucking a guy seven years younger then her who lives with his dad, can't keep a job, and is loathed by everyone who knows him, including her parents. I guess any desperate omega will go after any bitch who shows him some attention.

            Word of advice, don't get sick or exposed to any chemicals.

            [–]1Zanford 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Mine's similar.

            Don't train her out of her shyness or bad dressing, tho. It will just make her more likely to get with another guy.

            I make my girl dress and act sexy in the bedroom, but am happy for her to dress frumpily in public. The world at large is very Blue Pill so it seems counterproductive to parade a hot dolled-up gf in front of coworkers, family, friends, etc.

            [–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            "Had to train her out of social shyness, awkwardness, lack of fashion sense and very jerky, un-subtle movements."

            Noooooooooo..... You FOOOOOOOL! Lolololololol . . .

            Look, she was already perfect:

            "already did yoga, knew how to cook (still lives with her family, 2 siblings, parents in a happy patriarchal marriage) and is going to college to be a math major"

            [–]1junk2sa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            because she's had an extremely low partner count before me

            But had a fairly high partner count during and after you? lol

            Don't start thinking she is a unicorn, brother. Good find.

            [–]TheBravestAlpha 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Cute little equations from a math major? Cute? Do you even understand what they mean?

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Glad to know I'm not the only one that has to teach my girl seemingly simple things.

            [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

            When I found my 19y/o LTR she already did yoga, knew how to cook (still lives with her family, 2 siblings, parents in a happy patriarchal marriage

            Not Greek by any chance is she?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Nope, from a traditional U.S. family in a big house (grandparents and all) - albeit they are somewhere between upper and elite class socioeconomically. I was just as surprised ...should I be looking into first generation Greek girls?

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

            Wouldn't it be awesome of a generation of RedPillWomen taught their daughters to be RedPillWomen? holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

            [–]RPDBF 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            That is refereed to as the good old days

            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 17 points18 points  (52 children)

            While we are on the subject of making women. Here is how to make women:http://www.t-nation.com/workouts/hard-body-training-for-women

            [–]bluedrygrass 61 points62 points  (48 children)

            "Here's what you need to know...

            • Women tend to have a higher pain tolerance when it comes to training, can recover faster between sets, and are able to sustain a higher volume of work. Men are welcome to try the program, but they may not be able to hang!"

            Bitch please.

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                [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (11 children)

                A red-pill doctor in the making...wow.

                Any advice you can give a young red-piller (I'm 17) in regards to pursuing medicine?

                [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                  I'll keep that in mind. I just need to have one plan, with no back-up plan, so I don't have anything to lose (plan in regards to pursuing medicine, with nothing else as a replacement [that is true in my case]).

                  I just have one question to ask though:

                  Is there any genetic engineering specialization in medicine? You know, kind of like what these people are doing...

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                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I'd recommend pursuing MD/PhD

                    Interesting. But I need to first do well in Grade 12, my average last year was not what I expected of myself (mid 90s), and then both get into and excel in a University.

                    [–]tekn0_ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    Do you know of any engineers who did PhD in Neuroscience? I am an engineering major, and have really been interested in Neuroscience. Any tips?

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                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      you just better make sure that is really what you want to do and figure it out as soon as you can so you don't get behind.

                      I think that's the most important thing, and in my case, revolves around...my growing desire to hold power and make an influence on this world. I'll just end it there.

                      But what will really get you through school and certainly graduate school is love for what you do.

                      I don't "love" what I do (Science courses), but they keep me occupied and are interesting. What I love is the end result of progress, paved via using sweat and tears as mortar.

                      Regardless, I thank you for the advice.

                      Cheers,

                      Melkor

                      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 16 points17 points  (2 children)

                      I was hit by a car on my mountain bike, thrown sixty feet, didn't break anything, but still reported for duty that night. Doc on base said he used to get road rash like mine sliding into second base. No pain meds because I operated heavy equipment.

                      Last deployment I was doing the work of ten people alone on two crushed meniscus in my knees. 3000+mg of ibuprofen twice a night to do it. Then I was treated like a malingering asshole by home station when I returned, and worked harder.

                      Male world is suck it up, keep working, take the pain.

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                        [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I'm not taking that much, I stopped when I got back in conus. It ripped my upper GI to shreds. I've been back ten years next month, and I'm almost to the point of being healthy again. Been a world of shit I've been wading through. VA awarded me 100% due to all the shit I deal with, so I can survive, but I'm limited in how far I can go and what I can do.

                        [–]2RedPill4LYF 19 points20 points  (17 children)

                        It's like when people claim women mature faster than men. Yeah, they grow breasts at 13, but that don't mean she knows more than the boy sitting beside her in the classroom.

                        [–]doveenigma13 30 points31 points  (3 children)

                        I would say they do, but they peak at 16 and stay there until 40ish before the real world sets in.

                        [–]2RedPill4LYF 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                        So in other words they never actually mature.

                        [–]altra_hex 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        Right-o. It's sidebar information actually.

                        [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                        "Mature faster than men" = grow tits earlier and realize how much power it gives them, so they start using it.

                        [–]Abadoobie 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                        Then you must ignore all the science that studies the development of humans. It shows consistently that girls develop on average 2 years ahead of boys both mentally and physically. It isn't about knowledge, it's about physical and mental development. Girls mature physically and mentally faster than boys by about 2 years.

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                          [–]Abadoobie 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                          If you want to change the definition of mature to something that specifically excludes physiology then that's your choice. But physiological changes result in mental changes and mental changes are what affects decision-making, morality, philosophy, sense of self etc. so physical development DOES affect all those things you just mentioned. And at puberty it is easily the most significant factor.

                          So since all of those are a product of a mature physiological brain, biological development is what produces changes in all those less tangible measures. So if girls mature physically sooner, they mature mentally sooner and they develop all those intangible measures sooner than boys. Even by your own definition of mature girls do so sooner than boys.

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                            [–]Abadoobie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            I suppose it requires a very clear definition of maturity before this conversation can really go very far. Physical and psychological development starts and ends sooner in girls than boys. If that's our definition then it's conclusive. If we want to define it by some other measure such as social responsibility, long-term planning, risk assessment or other things then the issue becomes more debatable.

                            However, mental development during puberty is directly related to all of those other factors. So as to RedPill4LYF's comment, I believe I'm still correct. Yes everyone's different by on average this holds to be true.

                            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            I think they mature socially at a faster rate. Girls seem more adept at social nuances than the boys until 20 years old or so I'd say.

                            [–]humankin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Girls do in fact mature faster than boys. The lack of certain pressures until the Wall slows the sort of maturity we demand of men but that isn't a biological cause in itself.

                            [–]battlefaxabortivesti 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                            Just so we're clear, this program has women doing three sets of triples with their "1RM." This means their "1RM" is actually not even their 3RM. If you were using less than your own 3RM as your "1RM," then you could probably do this program, too. I'm not sure why you'd want to though, as it looks like a garbage program.

                            [–]anonlymouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            I think there's an Overton window of what most women will accept as an exercise program, and you have to design it inside that window or they just won't do it.

                            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            The author decided to eat bitches out a little in an effort to convince them to do his program. Its a very good training program.

                            [–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                            They may not be deliberately misleading. A woman's 1/5/xRM is way lower than a man's, and the lower the weight you're lifting, the more volume you can lift with less recovery. If you see both men and women doing their max lifts, you probably will see men needing more recovery time. Of course it's still completely retarded for them to compare unequal lifts.

                            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                            I can lift her max for much longer and need less recovery time, the way the put it ignores that fact. Let's say she can curl 35lbs, I can curl a max of 200, how many of hers can I do and for how long? Its so light to me its almost inconsequential.

                            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                            Lol why would you be curling in the first place?

                            If you wanna build biceps you should do weighted pull ups or bent over rows.

                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Just because he can doesn't mean it's a staple of his workout, though I agree with the premise of your post.

                            [–]technician218 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Stronglifts 5x5 checking in. can confirm a proportionate build unlike 90% of all the other guys in the gym doing machines and isolation.

                            [–]Gantznaught 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                            what happens if a man does that routine?

                            wrong question, would YOU GLO recommend men to do that routine?

                            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            should be clear after looking at the exercise selection that it's not a routine geared towards men/building muscle

                            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            I put my LTR on this routine. Its been working REALLY well for her. Its kinda shitty for men because there is ZERO direct chest or arm wotk.

                            [–]sirdomino 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                            Is there a good summary of the beliefs/qualities of a redpill man vs a redpill woman?

                            [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Not really. There's already lack of consistency with RP men who want an LTR vs those who want to spin plates. A plate spinner is bad for a woman who wants commitment but good for one who rides the CC.

                            [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                            RP women seek commitment. RP men seek sex. If the strategy for the RP man is sex in a Long Term Relationship (LTR) then TRP-LTR guys have more in common with TRP-women than the plate spinners except for that one insurmountable difference- they are women.

                            [–]sirdomino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Thanks, that explains things nicely! :) So the TRP-Women will know how to kep a TRP-Men satisfied in a LTR using TRP concepts.

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                              [–]Schrodingersdawg 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                              Well, at least kate seems like she's doing the right thing... so far.

                              [–]humankin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              That's the privileged behavior feminists keep telling men about. Feminists just universally fail to recognize that they're projecting women's special treatment onto men.

                              [–]DrBillC0sby 32 points33 points  (0 children)

                              The Legend is back.

                              Because all her life, the only ting that was expected of her was for her to bring her vagina. Diamonds are a girls best friend (because women are incapable of real friendship).

                              Truer words have never been said.

                              [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                              Feminists willfully ignore the fact that men are objectified just as much as women. The only difference is that we're objectified in a different way.

                              I'm no biologist (so this is pseudoscience) but from a vantage point of a casual observer it seems as if the objectification of women keeps the genetic lineage of our species strong where as the objectification of men puts our society in the best possible environment (and influences genes that have little to do with aesthetics). I read somewhere that, historically, 40% of human males reproduced where as 80% of females did. (most) Women would rather share an alpha than be with a beta.

                              It could be said that the selection pressures are higher on men and thus could be inferred that we're historically objectified more harshly than women. All this is assuming that my stats are accurate and that what we're objectified for is the same as our selection pressures in mating.

                              [–]Homard80 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                              You just described why things like Religion exist. It is basically so that Societies can enable more people to have partners. If not you get the 40% or lower success rate for men to reproduce. A society with a lack of men reproducing will fail... because why care as much about working hard contributing to society if you have nothing to really work for (other then yourself).

                              [–]ethan86 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              "Men look at women as sex objects, women look at men as success objects." -Dr. Warren Ferrell

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                              [–]2mbillion 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                              what is biological about being a lazy do-nothing. In all but the last fifty or so years of human history women that did not provide a valuable service to their core group were cast off

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                                [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                                They have guilt, but they also have hamsters. They will hamster the guilt, or start a fight which they can lose and feel like a victim.

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                                The hamster is used to rationalise why the guilt doesn't stick.

                                I am serious, women have the same natural psychopaty little children have, they have no guilt. And I don't think it's a feminist thing, I've talked to some only school matriarchs. Nothing, the concept of bad is relative-

                                [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                I came to the conclusion that women don't need to grow up and so they just won't.

                                Women and children have a lot of potential for guilt though. They can be manipulated pretty easy to feel it. It's just that talking doesn't work here, but only actions do.

                                That's why dread works wonders. At first they feel afraid because they are about to loose something of value and then they feel that there has to be something they did wrong. And then they feel pityful for themselves and finally they accept their guilt in it.

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                I came to the conclusion that women don't need to grow up and so they just won't.

                                you will regret that, women are not to be underestimated.

                                They can be manipulated pretty easy to feel it.

                                no, you manipulate them to feel like you judge them, by their own they don't feel it. They regret being caught cheating, not cheating. At best you can milk some sort of guilt if you expose it and make them feel like a bad person for making someone feel bad.

                                At first they feel afraid because they are about to loose something of value and then they feel that there has to be something they did wrong.

                                No, that is bad dread, and usually ends up in her punishing you for daring to disrespect her. Good dread is a social proof. It subconsciously reminds her you are a desirable catch.

                                And then they feel pityful for themselves and finally they accept their guilt in it.

                                do not buy into concessions, if she negotiates she is just playing, only accept complete surrender

                                [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                I came to the conclusion that women don't need to grow up and so they just won't. you will regret that, women are not to be underestimated.

                                No. You've got me wrong. I've grown too old and been caught off guard much too often to underestimate them. I mean their set of mind. They are human at last and of course grow better over the time. My daughter does better every year she gets older. I did and you did too.

                                no, you manipulate them to feel like you judge them, by their own they don't feel it. They regret being caught cheating, not cheating. At best you can milk some sort of guilt if you expose it and make them feel like a bad person for making someone feel bad.

                                That's a little bit like a dog trying to bite his own tail, or the henn and the egg. I agree that they need a push in the right direction, but I also believe that what parts us men from them is just that we are smarter and foresee the rising consequences better and therefore just pull the emergency break earlier.

                                They are so unused to this consept that they don't see the train until it hits them while we learned to look out for it's headlights.

                                No, that is bad dread, and usually ends up in her punishing you for daring to disrespect her. Good dread is a social proof. It subconsciously reminds her you are a desirable catch.

                                I didn't talk about our/your actions and thoughts, but about what it triggers in her and her feels.

                                do not buy into concessions, if she negotiates she is just playing, only accept complete surrender

                                That's what it all boils down to in my opinion.

                                Actually I think that that would be worth a whole post on it's own.

                                [–]humankin 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                There's likely a biological component but I suspect culture to be the primary cause. Western culture and especially the anglosphere privileges women over men. It is very much in the same sense as the nobility are privileged: women expect a certain level of treatment without regard for how men are treated. Even ugly and fat women expect this treatment, hence most of 2nd and 3rd wave feminism and the "fat is beautiful" nonsense. Remember: people cannot differentiate between misogyny and egalitarianism.

                                Where women are treated worse than men, women must be nice to thrive. They're still going to be selfish but it'll be sublimated into cooperation.

                                Where women are treated equal to men... well, is there such a place? Wherever women are treated at least as well as men, feminism dominates and feminism has to empower women eternally or it can't justify its existence. You can't be an exclusionary rights movement sans kill switch without being a supremacy movement. Anyway, egalitarianism can only exist where gender is handled rationally and rationally handling gender means gender roles. Our incentives are just not identical.

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                Look at more patriachal pre feminist cultures. It's not, "my husband is so good to me" it's "I have a good husband"

                                women must be nice to thrive. They're still going to be selfish but it'll be sublimated into cooperation.

                                no it isn't, it will be just a more perverse game. Western men are masochistic little bitches, to manouver them into place you don't act nice, you act like a bitch, like the abusive mother that never loved him.

                                In eastern europe you play the loving girlfriend part until you manouver him into the provider position. There is no cooperation, just a less masochistic game.

                                I think egalitarian should be discused. From a legislative standpoint any congnitive being should be treated identical. The only protions where gender should be discussed is durring pregnancy, conversely the rest is bullshit. That is equal in front of the law.

                                Now, that would piss of a lot of women, because being forced to act like men is a really big drop in social power for a lot of women. So actual equality means: i the woman get to keep my gynocratic advantages and priviledge while you the man need to renouch your patriarchal advantages. It's not about: give women a equal standing, it's about give women more or give men less.

                                Even economically, nothing is stoping you from doing more and getting more(although in this climate you will get to be a CEO just because you are in a managerial position and have a vagina, because that is good PR). But women don't want to do more, because working like a dog is not fun, they want either to get more(the CEO issue) or men to get less(why are so many male CEO, parity I say, PARITY!)

                                The real sexist issues: the issue of the glass ceiling...a lot of strategy and business is discused in boys clubs or unprepared women managers are trust into CEO positions for PR purposes. Are not adressed because that actually puts a standard in place and requires women to actually be measured by the same standards as me(I won't doxx myself but lets just say that in my town there a a ladies club, and women serve one another contracts all year long, because fundamentally as a private enterprise you do business with whoever you want)(maybe a female CEO is not inherently good for equality, if she is incompentent.)

                                [–]humankin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                no it isn't, it will be just a more perverse game. Western men are masochistic little bitches, to manouver them into place you don't act nice, you act like a bitch, like the abusive mother that never loved him.

                                In eastern europe you play the loving girlfriend part until you manouver him into the provider position. There is no cooperation, just a less masochistic game.

                                I wasn't thinking eastern europe so much as parts of asia and the middle east but that does match how my friend's relationship women.

                                Now, that would piss of a lot of women, because being forced to act like men is a really big drop in social power for a lot of women. So actual equality means: i the woman get to keep my gynocratic advantages and priviledge while you the man need to renouch your patriarchal advantages. It's not about: give women a equal standing, it's about give women more or give men less.

                                Yep. This has been studied. People, both men and women, cannot differentiate between hostile sexism and egalitarianism. They didn't jump to the obvious conclusion that women are treated so much better than men, at least at an interpersonal level, that equality feels like hatred.

                                [–]ColdEiric 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                                If you would read Genesis 29:1-30; the little story of Jacob, Leah and Rachel, then you would notice the same pattern.

                                There's a man, Jacob, who is a good worker, because he is a man. A man can be put into work, no problem. Then there's the older sister, Leah, who doesn't look so good as the younger sister, Rachel. Their father promises Rachel to Jacob, when Jacob has worked for seven years in his service. When the time comes, he gets the older Leah instead. Why you ask? "In our country, we don't marry the young ones before the old are married." Then Jacob has to work seven years, and seven years, and so on, making all of the girls pregnant, before he gets Rachel.

                                The moral of the story? You already know that, don't you?

                                [–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                Great animated version of the story here:

                                http://youtu.be/6P6SmD6yBF0

                                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                This is not entirely cultural, it is also biological. Remember that culture is based off of biology, but sometimes (in the case of traditionalism), biology was combated in order to construct a workable civilization. As technology advanced however, women's need of traditionalism waned, and you get the transitory period between patriarchy and feminist matriarchy led alpha patriarchy (what we are in right now).

                                My reason for telling you red-pillers this, is out of a desire to help you avoid the trap of traditional relationships, but of course, GayLubeOil couldn't have said it any better:

                                You can use women for their vaginas and nothing else. Or you can teach her to cook, workout and whatever else you expect out of a LTR. In the end all you get by default is vagina, unless she stops being attracted to you. If that's the case she has a headache.

                                A vagina is all you get if you're being honest with yourself. Many men lie about being emotionally validated by their women or a woman (as a partner), which really means they are still under the euphoria of the vagina, and cannot find happiness within themselves.

                                [–]RPW MODLifterofThings 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                                I always wondered how GayLubeOil was meant to be split... Like, was it a first, middle, surname kinda deal? All one mass like Madonna or Prince? Thank you for answering this burning question.

                                Quality post as usual, Mr. Oil.

                                [–]CrazyForYouToo 5 points6 points  (5 children)

                                What you're going to find is that western and western influenced women expect a lot more from men than they're willing to give in return.

                                I like that you included the "Western" qualifier (in both ethnicity and influence).

                                Of course women are still women anywhere we go, but it's easy to separate the pure SE Asian girls (at least) from the Western or Western-influenced girls.

                                I was floored years ago when a young 9/10 Indonesian girl shyly mentioned that I say that I'm sorry too much (as a man). She was absolutely right. I've since taken the stance that "We men only have 3 apologies to use throughout our lifetime. Use them wisely" (I can't remember who the quote is from).

                                I enjoy your posts. I encourage you to keep it up, Brother.

                                [–]WillClickOnAnything 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                                I have a date with an Indonesian girl this weekend and am wondering what I will encounter. I'm not sure how long she's been in the states or how westernized she may be. She's a nurse. This could be interesting.

                                [–]CrazyForYouToo 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                                Good luck with your Indonesian girl. I'd say, how she acts depends on how long she's been out of her country. My first bit of advice is for you to make the decisions on what to do next (where you're going, what you're going to do, when, what's next, and so on). Do not hold her hand while walking. Offer your arm to escort her. If she is still the submissive type, she will gladly put her arm under yours. Hold her wrist when going down the stairs or crossing the street. Even go so far as to order her food and drink for her. "I think you will like the grilled chicken. I'll order that for you." Be a man. They eat that shit up.

                                Related: A common mistake I see (and read) that expat men do, is to marry and take their near-perfect SE Asian girl to their Western world (home country) and expect them to retain their culture (being naturally submissive to a man). Over time, these girls are influenced by Western society and begin to act more and more entitled. In a matter of a couple of years, the guy now has a beautiful Asian doll who has transformed into a money-grubbing, back-stabbing cunt who's life now seems to be occupied with shit tests and demands.

                                I'm sure there are similar marriages that have worked out. But I'd venture to say that it was because the girl was not allowed to become very close friends with Western girls.

                                Another reason I believe these marriages are strained, is because the girl now has no sense of value to their families (or to themselves). The guy "rescues" the girl (in his mind) and provides her with everything she needs - including sending money back home to her family (expected in SE Asia). Now, the girl sits at home doing nothing. She can't jump on her scooter and visit her friends (who speaks the same language and shares common interests relative to their country). In her mind, she can't do anything (by herself) to help her family. She feels she adds no real value and has no self-worth. Sitting at home all day with nothing do, no matter how easy she has it now (standard of living greatly improved, no need to work, etc.). Sure, she had married a rich foreigner who is sending money home to her parents, but that money wasn't generated by her (arguable). She did nothing with her hands or her back - no physical exertion - no bit of hardship. She did nothing that she could be proud of to show her family that she made any sort of physical sacrifice to help provide for her parents and siblings. This is especially true if she is the oldest girl in the family.

                                I recommend for any guy who takes a (non-high society) SE Asian girl out of her country to live in the Western world, to put her to work (or, have her to spend time and interests with different charities). Make it a struggle of sorts. Give her a feeling of accomplishment - of value. No matter that you could both easily live the good life on your salary alone.

                                When she has no sense of tangible value, she has an emptiness that needs to be filled. She would rather be back in her country near her family struggling daily to help provide for her family. Some do just that. They give up "the good life" to go back home and live a life that is noble (in their eyes).

                                Conversely, when some are told by her new Western husband that she doesn't need to do anything - nothing at all, there are some prize brides that take full advantage of the generosity (usually influenced by Western women) and pressures the man into full regret within months.

                                Back to my point: I believe it's best for the husband to transition into the SE Asian girls society (move to her country), rather than force her to try to acclimate into a Western society that has so many opportunities for the relationship to go sour.

                                [–]WillClickOnAnything 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                Wow, thanks for the run down.

                                [–]humankin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                Related: A common mistake I see (and read) that expat men do, is to marry and take their near-perfect SE Asian girl to their Western world (home country) and expect them to retain their culture (being naturally submissive to a man). Over time, these girls are influenced by Western society and begin to act more and more entitled. In a matter of years, the guy now has a beautiful Asian doll who has transformed into a money-grubbing, back-stabbing cunt who's life now seems to be occupied with shit tests and demands.

                                I wonder how much of this is from Western influence and how much is from betas naturally inciting women's contempt, delayed due to the (in her eyes, at least) SMV difference?

                                [–]CrazyForYouToo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Good point. If the man is in the right frame of mind, this (her changes) wouldn't happen. However, I still believe the cultural change and surrounding influences are fuel for a relentless grass fire.

                                [–]1Zanford 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                I would never dare use a woman just for her vagina. BJs and anal are more fun, with less pregnancy risk.

                                [–]thoramit 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                I'm fairly new to this sub and am really appreciating the quality content that is shared here. My eyes are slowly being opened! Thanks for this post

                                [–]Condorman80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Welcome brother. Your life is only getting better from here.

                                [–]boney_hoo_hoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                "Compare the diahrea bags." If you run for congress I will vote for you.

                                [–]Jessewilks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                "As a vagina operator, men owe her tons of free shit." Hit the nail on the head. Good read.

                                [–]nechoha 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                What size bag would you recommend using for each portion of the test Gaylube Oil? What are some if your personal pointers for making a woman? I'll read your link from the other comments. But what techniques have worked for you?

                                [–]RealRational 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                                Or you can teach her to cook, workout and whatever else you expect out of a LTR.

                                How? How do I do this? If anyone cares to answer start from cold approach and go from there. Honestly even a simple outline, bullet points, would be helpful.

                                [–]__ROOSTER__ 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                                If a woman wants you bad enough, she will do what is required to be on your team. Have clear expectations about what you want and what will make you happy.

                                My girl couldn't cook a year ago, now she cooks non stop, has a shelf full of cookbooks , etc.

                                I get breakfast in bed at least twice a week.

                                She didn't do her nails before me. I made it clear I wanted them done along with other mandatory grooming. I don't like makeup and she has a very natural look that doesn't need it.

                                One of the first times she tried to do a french manicure herself I came home to find her crying because she couldn't get it right and wanted me to be impressed with the job.

                                I've also gotten her to dress way more feminine and very classy. It just took compliments, a little second hand store shopping , and a few comments like "oh wearing your lesbian shoes". Part of this is IMO you need to dress well, this forces her to up her game to match you.

                                Now she always checks to see if I approve of her outfit before we go out, and asks my opinion if she needs to be dressed up for something.

                                Many young women WANT to be traditional women, they just got cheated by their mothers and learned NOTHING.

                                [–]humankin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                Many young women WANT to be traditional women, they just got cheated by their mothers and learned NOTHING.

                                So much this. Mommy never learned because she was a rebel. Grandma was a hippy, is in a home, dead, or just not around. We don't teach our daughters how to be women and we don't teach our sons how to be men. Feminism fights for a certain level of satisfaction for women as it replaces the past satisfaction but does nothing for men. Seriously, ask a feminist how men ought to be. You will never get concrete advise. It's platitudes, vitriol or confused silence.

                                [–]RealRational 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                My girl couldn't cook a year ago, now she cooks non stop, has a shelf full of cookbooks , etc.

                                Wizard? But seriously, how?

                                [–]__ROOSTER__ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                First , have actual value and know your value. Second , only date pleasers. If a woman doesn't get actual joy from making you happy , forget it. If your woman knows you have value and gets pleasure from making you happy, you can train her to do the things that make you happy; anything for domestic duties, to sex, weight loss, to the etiquette the two of you use with each other in public and private. She wants to please you, you just have to be confident enough to tell her how to please you and do it in a way that doesn't crush her spirit.

                                [–]Donald_Fuck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Another instant classic by GLO.

                                [–]2wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                                As u/asd1100 said, society doesn't condition women into being who they are. That would imply that they would behave differently in a different cultural setting, and it's clear that gender dynamics are pretty consistent across most cultures.

                                Society is instead a reflection of the biological imperatives of each sex. It is in the inherent nature of biology that men and women act they way they do towards each other. Women hold the cards on reproduction (and thereby sex), men on resources. It follows logically that women will use their power to acquire the value that men have to offer, simply because they can-- not because they were conditioned into behaving this way. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It is human nature to fall into a pattern where there is much to be gained at little cost.

                                It bothers me that such a prominent voice on TRP would be spouting the same feminist bullshit that strips women of their accountability. Nothing is stopping women from creating value in themselves in addition to their sex appeal- and many do. But if we're talking generally here, enough women are content to settle with the leverage they're granted at birth- and it's not because of social conditioning.

                                [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                                In the past there were societal expectations for women to be good wives and mothers. People used to buy comprehensive cook books for women as wedding presents, so that they could cook for their families. Thats not a fashionable present anymore. All weddings are now are a female validation fest without any moral or religious significance. Women are bringing far less to the table than they used to. Its entirety cultural.

                                [–]WillClickOnAnything 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                Henceforth all wedding gifts from me will be cookbooks for the bride. Inspired! Fuck'em

                                [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                The purpose of Marriage is about creating a healthy enviroment to raise children, its not about validating some cunts princess fantasy.

                                [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                As u/asd1100 said, society doesn't condition women into being who they are. That would imply that they would behave differently in a different cultural setting

                                I think the biological male imperative to desire women socially conditions women (to some extent) .

                                A lot of things are probably just inborn, though.

                                [–]fhghg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                Having trouble with your logic too. If women are a certain way because they ARE that way, as you argue, then they should not be faulted for being something else.

                                enough women are content to settle

                                Why do you consider it settling to follow the biological imperative? Are we shaming them? Should we?

                                [–]40_SixandTwo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                So much this. That was inspiring.

                                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                I'm so glad I have an eastern european woman with traditional values.

                                [–]FallenHighSchoolJock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                "Traditional values" meaning "from a broke ass country where being a provider is more valuable than looks and status"

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                Watch her climb that hypergamy slut ladder when feminism comes aknockin'. She'll act on her natural tingles and cheat behind your back with a sexy alpha, because feminsm says she has to be a liberated woman.

                                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                                I actually disagree with this premise. Essentially, what GLO is explaining is a double standard. Now correct me if I'm wrong but TRP doesn't really have a problem with that right?

                                Women expect more from men. Whoopdy-do. Tell us something we don't know. That's just the way it is. It only makes sense that men do the hard work since women have the babies. Yeah, I get feminism and equality and all that but fuck that. We're better than that.

                                There's an upside, if you figure it out well enough, you get to be an alpha. You get to live your life how you like, not dependent on another creature such as yourself.

                                [–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                It only makes sense that men do the hard work since women have the babies.

                                ?!

                                Ummm.... Yes having babies is a biological function of a female, but I don't see why men should have to work 'harder', unless the women has left her job and more income is required (but then thats a pretty fucked decision by both parties).

                                [–]wheyapartment 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                "Depressed men are unattractive"

                                Depends. If the guy is a depressed alpha he comes off as being "mysterious", "different", etc.. He becomes a pop culture vampire

                                [–]Rogerdodger1985 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                ts foolish to expect any equality in a relationship because society conditions women to be selfish assholes.

                                This is very true and honestly I'm done being mad about it. These last few days I've done a lot of thinking of what I would do and how I would act if I was in their shoes. Truth is I would probably behave the same way...you can't blame a scorpion for being a scorpion because that's all it knows.

                                If you have a girl who has been told all her life that she's beautiful and gotten so many things because of it well she loses the being grateful part and it becomes an expectation...

                                On a side not I can't wait till things like google glasses become popular and we can actually see what a beautiful woman's day is like...I really think that it's only then that we will realize the amount of conditioning that has reinforced the entitled behaviour.

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