Sigh...so tired of men being demonized. William Macy is speaking the truth!

kimb00 · 2018-01-22T20:09:33+00:00

I was always brought up to believe you are paid based on the value you bring to the marketplace. I mean for employment.

So if I’m a pro-tennis player and I’m top in my sport, I’m going to help stadiums sell seats and I’m also going to have millions of eyes ( watching on tv), looking at my every move.

Let’s take Serena Williams for example, she has 39 grand slam titles. Her prize money has been over $84 million and with endorsements her earnings are exponentially more. I can sit and justify or talk about whether or not she deserves this money (frankly I think she does), but the reality is - she brings enjoyment and excitement and money to her endorsers. So she is paid far more than your average tennis player.

I believe this is true for actors and musicians and anyone actually. They are paid for the value they bring to the market.

So...

I know William H Macy. I know whatever he is starring in, will be stellar. I know this because he can pick a good script and only the elite hire him. He is a draw for the show “Shameless”.

On the other hand, Emmy Rossum, I had to google her. Oh, she played the lead in Phantom of the opera. Yes, she’s a great actress, but does she have the draw and star power of William H Macy?

I feel bad he came to her aid to help her receive equal pay. I think he had to in the fear of looking bad to feminist media.

Maybe, when Emmy has the same number of film credits and Oscar nods as William has under her belt she will deserve the same salary as him.

I think people forget we are paid on the value we bring. It may not seem fair, but it’s important to distinguish that this isn’t about gender. It’s about star power.

bunniebell · 2018-01-23T12:33:39+00:00

I agree with your sentiments on men in Hollywood being stigmatized for pay inequality. To an extent, it makes perfect sense. If a woman is a manager at a company with the same qualifications as her fellow male coworker (also a manager), they should receive equal pay.

The problem with Hollywood is that it's a creative field. Artists (painters, writers, actors, etc) of all kinds are in such surplus that employers can pick and choose more so than typical employers. Furthermore, women have always been in surplus in Hollywood, more so than men.

There's a reason why there is a theory about a movie being feminist friendly if it fulfills certain requirements (a female not in a romantic relationship, that has more then several lines where she isn't just responding to men, etc). There is no such theory for male actors--why? Because men are in higher demand than women, in Hollywood.

Casting agents can also discriminate based on any number of reasons, since the acting roles often require specific criteria.

To close, do I think extreme pay inequality in such circumstances is ethical or fair? NO! But some inequality is understandable.

WonderfulEnergy · 2018-01-26T18:41:41+00:00

I think that demonizing those animal like creatures crawling out of the "hot spots" right now is wholly needed! Not a single day goes by when these demons rape, kill, hit, steal etc. I think it is sad that the only women who dare to speak up on that are the followers of Emma Schwarz and the women of the right wing parties.