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I am re-posting this thread because certain things have happened recently and it would be a good idea for everyone to read through the comments and see what's being said.

Furthermore, do not be fooled by any sentiments of "aww well that sucks" or "no one thinks doxxing is okay" because those same people will still talk about the doxxing incident (spreading the information, making the topic gain in popularity). I debated back and forth for quite some time on whether or not I would comment on the thread. Ultimately I decided to because some of the things being said were dismissive and missed the point entirely in my opinion. Here is my comment for anyone that is interested.

Recently I have noticed a few issues. A user will use a RP dedicated account that their SO knows about, which leads to deletions of material. You should have a dedicated account for the community, you should have as much anonymity from your SO as you need in order to participate without continually deleting. Some people have been using an account to comment on RP (or other controversial subs) while also browsing and participating on normal/common ones. This will lead to a problem for you at some point. You are gambling when you use one account for all your reddit activity. I won't say that it can't be done, only that over the course of three years - I have seen far more instances of "I was in a completely unrelated sub and ended up banned/trolled/attacked" than I have of "it's never been a problem."

Please be careful about the information you share. You are the first and last line of defense. Do searches of your real name and your username to see what's out there.

In addition please beware of anyone claiming to be a reporter. You can read about this topic here and here.

If anyone receives odd messages or notices a user 'following' them around on reddit - please let the mod team know. We want everyone to be as safe as possible.


In a world where technology continually creeps into your daily life more and more, it’s important to keep in mind the various ways you can protect your identity. The Red Pill and Red Pill Women subs here on reddit are fairly controversial for various reasons, and in the past there have been incidents of users getting doxxed.

Dox: Personal information about people on the Internet, often including real name, known aliases, address, phone number, SSN, credit card number, etc.

I am by no means a technological guru, so if you have other suggestions you would like to see included, please don’t hesitate to share.

Multiple eMail Addresses This may sound like a lot of work and inconvenient, but using different accounts for various things has a few advantages. If you have one email solely dedicated to, say, purchases you make on amazon, and you suddenly start getting spam mail - you'll know why. You can easily track which sites are selling user information which can be useful. Similarly, if one of your alt accounts gets hacked by a virus, then your friends and family won’t get spammed as well (because you only use that email to purchase, not to write messages to colleagues or family). Keeping track of your emails is simple. You can alter an address book very easily to suit your needs. Be sure to vary the names you come up with, and include bogus first/last names, age(s), sex, and location. Signing up for an email should not require you to outline the basics of your life. Don’t use the same security questions or passwords for different things (facebook and bank logins, for example, should be very different).

Personal Information Don’t risk telling people your real name (first or last), or the names of the people you know. Don’t disclose your specific geographic location (city, town etc). If you are linking to something on a personal social site that you use (facebook, myspace, google+), make sure that all profile images are completely obscured. Better yet, simply summarize or quote what’s being said in your post, as opposed to linking to imgur (again, you’ll want to make sure that your imgur account doesn’t contain anything personal).

If you are on social media sites, or manage a blog, be aware of the information you include. You may keep your reddit account clean, but if you link to another site that has some personal information about you, then that can lead to problems. I always tell my friends to limit the information they post on FB, and encourage people to set their photos etc to “Only Friends” (I’m wary of even the “Friends of Friends” setting).

Don’t Use Auto-Fill Whether you’re using a personal computer, laptop, or cellphone, don’t use the auto-fill capabilities. Clear your browsing history when you’re done on a public computer, and try using incognito windows.

Conduct Self-Searches It's always useful to try and see what you can find on the internet using either your real name, or an alias you use. Knowing what currently exists on the web will help you keep track of any significant (or alarming) increases. If you are good, or have a friend that knows of a good service to use, try testing it out to see if it can unearth anything you were previously unaware of.

This isn’t so much about safety, but take care when posting a new thread or commenting on an existing one. Don’t submit anything that you would be ashamed to have connected to your real identity. If you feel compelled to comment on subs outside of the RP sphere, consider using a secondary reddit account.

Take care, and be well.

:0)

EDIT: I had a brief chat with someone that knows a bit more about this process, and they pointed out something I found rather interesting. If someone starts asking you to confirm or deny personal information - the best response is a non-response. If you confirm a detail (geographical location for example), then they know one more thing about you. Similarly, if you deny a specific detail (example: Do you shop at x store? -- No, I have never been to x store) then that's still giving the individual a useful piece of information.

Both on the RPW sub and on other RP/W related blogs - there have been instances of doxxing (or attempted doxxing) very recently. I urge everyone to think very carefully about what information they disclose. One woman was encouraged (by an outsider) to post a picture of herself so that people could more effectively tell her how to look younger. Meanwhile, there's been a lot of "selfie" posts on another sub that shall not be named, and it's a luxury they think they can afford. Another incident almost occurred when a user asked other women here to friend her their information on a gaming site. It was an innocent mistake, and everything was sorted out - but the problem could have been much more serious. Being doxxed and having your real identity exposed could have wider reaching consequences than you realize.

Also, please understand that even if you delete your comments or a thread you posted - there are sites that search, save, and file everything you write. Furthermore, anyone can take a screenshot and other subreddits have used screenshots to talk about material that was removed. Bottom line: you never know what other people are doing for certain, so just be careful.

I don't mean to sound like an alarmist, but I think many people take it for granted that their identity is secure. If your user name is tied to other sites you use that are tied to your actual life, I encourage you to change them immediately.

Be careful, and be safe.


Here are some other sources I found about taking preventative steps:


[–]cats_or_get_out points points [recovered] | Copy Link

This whole thing makes me want to close my account and go back to lurking. I saw this article in r/politics, and the mean-spirited comments in the comment section made me just sad.

What makes me sad is the malicious glee. Remember when a certain mustachioed Redditor (from the election debates) did an AMA from his old account, and people went trawling through his history looking for unsavory stuff? It was cruel and unnecessary and unkind. Was he exercising poor judgment? Absolutely. But that doesn't make it right to do what the others did. The same for this particular incident.

Remember the post about gossip? I have been thinking about it a lot, and I catch myself wanting to talk or listen to information that is NONE OF MY BUSINESS. I think it brings out the meaner side in my personality, and it's not something I am proud of. Okay, I'm getting a bit off topic and rambling--sorry. I just feel gross. I don't want to be a part of Reddit if it means risking this kind of treatment of myself and others.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The logic is "horrible things can be funny when they happen to other people that 'deserve it.'" The 'punch a nazi' idea is no different. 'Man tears' and 'white tears' written on mugs. It's always okay to hate the 'right kind' of people.

I think of it as rubbernecking. People sit through traffic, so when they get to the front they figure it's their turn to see what all the commotion is about. Humans have a natural interest in the macabre too. Just as people will stand by and watch as things happen to others directly in front of them - they feel a mix of interest, horror, and apprehension.

There's so much more information about what people think everywhere - and people deliberately put themselves on display for recognition and popularity. Social media is a mixed bag to be sure. No 'side' is faultless, and dirt can be found everywhere if you know where to look.

I'm not perfect, I've never claimed to be. I do draw a hard line between 'reddit persona and activity' and actual life however. I know I've been written off in the past as being too paranoid/uptight about personally identifying information being shared both on the subs and in chats. Some people listened, and some didn't. Some of the people that didn't listen had to deal with situations that caused a great deal of grief and stress. Even when you do everything within your power to protect your identity, things can still go wrong.

[–]cats_or_get_out points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Even when you do everything within your power to protect your identity, things can still go wrong.

Yes. Exactly. That's why I'm strongly considering leaving.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Everyone has to assess their risk of exposure and weigh that against what they get from participating. I feel wary at times for sure, but I also know that it's one thing to doxx the creator of a sub, and another to chase down the various branches.

There's also something to be said for how inflammatory a user is, or if they continually go 'looking for a fight' so to speak. I know some users have created new names when they start to feel iffy. If you decide to make a new nick, just message the mods and we'll make sure your comments are approved etc. :0)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This really is key. If you are an inflammatory person who is willing to say stuff that creates "a following of haters or stalkers" you certainly are at much greater risk.

Having said that, I can't think of any regular members here who have anything to worry about. For the most part, this sub is managed well and there aren't personal attacks or outrageous posts.

[–]cats_or_get_out points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Even if I am not personally at risk, the whole thing gives me the heebies-jeevies. I feel like this.

I bet there are a few people out there who would love to doxx RPWi members just for shits and giggles.

[–]pandasphere2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think it's necessary to leave, just to switch usernames every now and again. That's how people end up getting doxxed- they'll get wedded to one particular username and aren't careful about not letting personal info slip.

Think of it as diversifying your e-portfolio. :)

[–]jade_cat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

just to switch usernames every now and again. That's how people end up getting doxxed- they'll get wedded to one particular username

This right here is username hypergamy. Tsktsktsk.

;)

[–]jade_cat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if I am not personally at risk, the whole thing gives me the heebies-jeevies. I feel like this.

This was pretty much my knee-jerk reaction as well.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If anyone receives odd messages or notices a user 'following' them around on reddit - please let the mod team know. We want everyone to be as safe as possible.

Yes, no one needs a puppy! Even if he is a mod in another sub....

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

hahaha!

[–]plein_oldearly 40s male♂6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting.

This will lead to a problem for you at some point.

Yes. I got a message some time back from a person in another sub, saying that he looked at my comment history and saw that I was a "redpiller". lol. And therefore my input or anything I had to say was not valid. And therefore I was not worthy of respect or basic rights.

What's funny is I don't consider myself a redpiller at all, any more than I consider myself a professional athlete just because I comment in a sports sub. I agree with a certain percentage of so-called RP ideas and I appreciate some of the stories that people share in these subs.

However, the very fact of commenting in a RP sub was seen as a negative to this other reddit person, sort of like justification for prejudice and disrespect.

It's fascinating how all this works. It reminds me of the movies about life in the 16th century or whatever, with all the espionage and diplomacy, and people bantering back and forth while being extremely careful what they say... lol. Some things don't really change, I think...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One thing I'd like to add to this.

In your preferences settings are some choices about your reddit comments being searchable by googling. It's a good idea to NOT allow that feature. It looks like this in your preferences.

privacy options

make my votes public (let everyone see /user//upvoted and /user//downvoted)

allow my data to be used for research purposes (details)

don't allow search engines to index my user profile (details)

allow reddit to log my outbound clicks for personalization

[–]littleeggwyfEarly 30s, Married, 10 years total1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This post came to mind when i saw this: https://np.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/6804p2/whats_your_job_and_your_partners_job/

Doxxing is pretty scary, and I think it's easy to be complacent :(

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes disclosing work won't make you stand out, particularly if you pick a broad category, when you name what your SO/spouse does at the same time - things can stand out more. There are also at least one screen name that designates a specific location. A few of the jobs listed on that thread are very specific/unusual, or the pairing between the couple stands out.

It's hard to find a balance between sharing enough so you can have a personality, relate to people, and have fun - while not giving away so much that you're safely 'hidden' (as much as possible).

[–]littleeggwyfEarly 30s, Married, 10 years total0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

It is hard to find a balance, I think there's things I would only feel comfortable sharing on the IRC or by PM where it's quite specific like some of them are!

Your guide is good, a bit of caution can save a lot of regret :)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A word of caution: I've lost track of the number of users that have encountered issues as a result of sharing information they thought was 'safe' and 'private' in chat. From being doxxed, to having stories/information they thought was only for the IRC spilled all over reddit.

[–]StingrayVC2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone asked me in chat once what my dog's name was. I wouldn't even answer that.

The balance is hard to find, but it absolutely can be done.

[–]littleeggwyfEarly 30s, Married, 10 years total0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thankyou for the reminder, I guess I do kind of think of it as more safe but the same risks do apply!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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