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[–]BellaScarletta6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Like all contemporary women, she wants to define what sexy should be for men using metrics that she is comfortable with. The problem, as with all things fem-centric, is that this social push to redefine for men what they should find sexy slams headlong into Men’s biological imperatives.

Enter red pill. I love that line.


Can we do an Art of Seduction thread? Wait. Yes, let's do an Art of Seduction thread.

[–]Camille11325[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yay so glad you made the post, and sorry I'm getting back to you so late. As you know I wasn't well yesterday. But yes Rollo is so great, he is a central manosphere figure for a reason!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh thank Odin. For a second I thought the article would agree with the Emma Watson quote, and I was preparing for a rant against feminism.

The actual article is much better.

Although, I'm not convinced that it's actually impossible for each sex to understand what the other finds sexy on an instinctive level.

I think a main problem is that society teaches the golden rule too much. The idea that men and women are the same. This actually makes it harder to understand each other, so you get guys pleading "I need you" as if that's attractive, or you get girls trying to be "independent" to impress guys, as if that's attractive. Each is trying to imitate what they want in a partner, because they think it's attractive. A man wants a woman to be emotional, to need him and be willing to depend on him. A woman wants a man to be strong and independent, precisely so that he can protect her. It's synergy. It's very attractive as a guy, for a girl to say "I need you." It's very attractive as a woman, for a man to get between her and a threat. The problem arises not from a physical inability to understand attraction, but from deliberate conditioning to make people believe that both sexes are the same.

Specifically relating to sexiness, I think a similar rule applies. Men find a submissive yet sex-hungry girl to be sexy. Creepily, this causes a lot of men (dare I say most?) to believe that submissive sex-desperation is the default, hence you get guys begging a woman to get on top. They act the way they want to be treated because they weren't raised with any other framework. It's a bit sad.

In fact, if you tell people that men and women do not want the same things, especially out of sex, they become hurt and disappointed and refuse to accept it. How can they have the close, deeply connected relationship they want, if men and women aren't the same? They don't have the preexisting framework to understand that the natural complementary system men and women have is actually better for a deep connection than if both people were the same.

Anyway, hopefully that didn't go too far off on a tangent. It irks me when people say men and women are different without explaining how or why.

[–]Camille11325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think a main problem is that society teaches the golden rule too much. The idea that men and women are the same. This actually makes it harder to understand each other, so you get guys pleading "I need you" as if that's attractive, or you get girls trying to be "independent" to impress guys, as if that's attractive. Each is trying to imitate what they want in a partner, because they think it's attractive.

Absolutely!

How can they have the close, deeply connected relationship they want, if men and women aren't the same? They don't have the preexisting framework to understand that the natural complementary system men and women have is actually better for a deep connection than if both people were the same.

This is a really great point. Today people are conditioned to believe that equality is the most important thing and that anything unequal is lesser and wrong.

Your comment was great I don't even have anything to add I just agree 100% thank you so much for reading and responding!

[–]mamita9 4 points4 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Excellent article. I was wondering if anybody has any advice on how to actually seduce a man? I've realised that I am not very seductive, I am quite shy. I laugh at their jokes, touch them, look them in the eyes, but don't know much beyond that. Any useful websites or advice?

[–]Camille11325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a post on RPW right now about this very subject!!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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