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So, I’ve said this few times but picking up women has always been so similar to sales. Closing, numbers game, marketing, etc (besides maybe following up).

I remember at my old job, all the top performers would use example of picking up women when talking about negotiating and prospecting.

I’ve always felt insecure when that’s brought up though. It’s made me feel a little bit insecure about my ability to sell (since I don’t do well with women), regardless of my success with it.

All my buddies have always asked me why I don’t date more, since I’m good looking they always assume I must not like the girls we hung out with. Even at parties they’d say shit like “they must not be the kind of girls you like”.

I’m honestly just shy and scared of coming off as a “creep”.

What are some ways to approach women with a salesmanship mentality?


[–]Thrawy12593 points94 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Think of yourself as a beautiful Aston Martin. You found it in pieces, and are building into a masterpiece.

Sadly you cannot keep the car, but you want it to go to the right owner. If they just want it for the sake of owning an Aston then fuck them move onto the next. You find a buyer, you have a great convo about their car collection and you ask them to come check out what you've been working on.

Maybe they decide they don't have enough money to buy the whole thing, but they take a ride with you and enjoy it.

And then you go back to looking for another buyer.

[–]throwitpplaway[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That’s an interesting shift... so think of myself as the luxurious car and no the person selling the car?

So essentially, we are embodying the product and treating the chicks AS the buyers?

[–]BloodSurgery7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The girls want you, not the other way around. Abundance mentality.

You can always get another girl/buyer or whatever analogy that can be made, but a girl cant get another men like you. That's why you always keep improving yourself.

[–]throwawaybpdnpd10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

amazing reply

[–]philltered2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Top notch analogy

[–]FalconWrite9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha! This is good shit. I'mma copy and paste it into a notepad.

there we go

[–]pnzndltn21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Life is sales. You're selling yourself everywhere and women are just another extension of that. It's already how life is so just tap into those same principles.

You are the product. Think of your buyers' painpoints. Think about your competition and what makes you different. Assess your SMV, your strengths, how you engage women, how you fuck, the general experience you offer.

Manage objections and guide them to the close.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Think of your buyers paint points... like what areas do they want to paint... explain that you can paint those points exactly as they like.

[–]3chazthundergut20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The easiest way to make a sale is to have a great product.

Make yourself undeniable

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Almost every sales rep I meet (b2b) had no problem with getting women

[–]throwitpplaway[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely hits my confidence. I think partly sales teaches you to fuck rejection in the ass, so it translates with women.

[–]cat_magnet17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I started in sales at 19 before starting my business at 25. I was an excellent sales person but totally useless picking up women. Only into my 30s did I become confidant and use those skills with women.

[–]RedEyeDude2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That does not mean they can't be related to each other. Your experience may be due to the fact that you didn't expect such different skill sets to have similar principles.

[–]cat_magnet5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are related for sure. Im just responding to the point where he says he doesn't know if he can be a good salesperson.

[–]rugged798 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Realize that pussy is necessary but it isn't special. It's like wheels on a car. You need the wheels, but women try to sell you a car with "special" wheels.

Every car has wheels. And every bitch has a pussy. Her job is to show you that she's better than her pussy. She does that by being special. She becomes special if she has alot to offer and does things for you that make your life better.

This is not the college chick that spends 4 days at your place watching Netflix and eating all your food. This is not the girl who's saying she wants to be you GF after one month of casual dating.

This is the bitch who fucks and sucks you like a porn star, makes you a sandwich, turns the game on and ACTUALLY let's you watch it.

So it's her job to show YOU she's special.

[–]pickyourselfupman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Always Be Closing. You there, put that pussy down. You think I’m fucking with you? Well, I assure you I am not fucking with you. Pussy is for closers.”

[–]BitingInsects1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Courage and confidence is pretty much essential. Walking into a situation or meeting where you're nervous and have high stakes like a deal or important account. This is completely relevant. You can't teach courage and confidence though. You can only practice and perfect yourself.

[–]Spicy-Legato1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Think of yourself more as an underwriter than a sales rep. They have to prove to you why they are a good fit for you.

[–]sebastianconcept1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you tried treating them as if they were your little sisters? (playfully, not taking anything they say seriously and rethorically asking them but in the end telling them what to do while holding outcome indifference)

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Both are a numbers game

[–]carbonhexoxide2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Look up Viking Lifestyle infield, Todd V infield, Todd V escalation, etc. It will help you out.

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everything today is sales. Almost all work positions today require you to be able to make someone else buy something you have.

Your problem is that you are not biased or neutral towards the value of yourself as a product. You need psychotherapy, as half humans also do.

[–]RedHoodhandles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ABC!

[–]WarriorMonkMode0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You have a product that you're trying to advertise and sell: in this case women are the consumer and you're the product.

Have faith in your product and be valuable. Don't be disposable. Don't be a sleazy car salesman. Have a product that speaks for itself.

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

why are you selling yourself to girls... bc they own a vagina?

your demeanor, attitude, and vibe should be one where she wants/needs/tries to sell herself to you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Even the top tier dudes are selling.

Even if your demeanour is such that you’re the prize. You’re selling.

Even if you’re god damned Leonardo DiCaprio in his prime. You’re selling.

But sometimes your sales pitch is top notch and she’s bidding... it’s a asynchronous auction of value... everyone is selling all the time

[–]omega_dawg93-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

lol. ok.

if you think broads aren't throwing themselves at 'top tier' dudes, you're lost.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t say they weren’t

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop trying to sell yourself and close. This whole thread is all coming off as a bunch of guys seeking approval, and how to get approval.

Be the guy who doesn't give a FUCK if she buys or not. You have more important shit than her buying you. That's the attitude.

[–]light-----------dark 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Car salespeople are pushy as fuck - turns me right the fuck away.

I’m sure the same tactics towards picking up women would push them right the fuck away too.

Be the car that sells itself. Ideally a collector’s car that goes up in value over time, as opposed to down.

[–]Freedomeofchoice3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet the pushy sales guys who everyone hates always seem to have the most sales each month. Talk vs. Action rears its head again. Another example of what happens when guys look at their reactions to those of women and think they are even remotely close.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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