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[–]CommonHistorian917 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So...

a man in the 90th-tile of attractiveness only has the advantage on a woman in the roughly 40th-tile?

Meaning, if we utilize the figure that 66% of women are overweight/obese, means she's likely at the very least overweight.

And of course 80th-tile men have an advantage over the 20th-tile women...

Meaning that, as I have said, if you can bang fatties online at will, you are in the top 20% of men. Congratulations!

No IFFS ands or buts.

[–]DaNatural_12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im SO FUCKING GLAD someone pointed this out. Ive literally been called gorgeous by attractive women and have never had a problem even cold approaching women on my looks level. Im a solid 8(@ sub 16% bmi) and for every 10 matches I get on tinder, 7 of them are <6. I had 63 matches in less than 2 weeks and 6 messages, 4 of them being from BIG WOMEN. I deleted that shit after only 2 weeks. Being Chad/Tyrone lite is not enough online. You must be GIGACHAD/TRYONE 9.5/10

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

> Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder

You can see the gaslight - dont waste your time on "Tinder", implicitly pretending that other ways of dating girls are different.

> You would probably be better off just going to a bar or joining some coed recreational sports team.

JFL

[–]Njere[S] 37 points38 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

People tend to have high standards online. You have a better success rate approaching women face to face

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I see no reason why it should be the case. If women have high standards online, that means they can get chads online. If they can get chads online, why would they accept chads offline?

[–]empatheticapathetic22 points23 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

This is a new concept that I have trouble with as well.

The simple answer being: here is a guy right in front of you who wants to give you attention. Unless she is actively talking to and engaged with some sort of chad from tinder, then the here and now will win while she’s out doing stuff, and while she’s at home feeling lonely and FOMO, she can attempt to hit up tinder chad and compete with all the other women trying the same thing.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

the here and now will

There is probably an advantage one can get from being "here and now", but it can only be very small. The choice for a female is to either accept the guy who is "here and now", or spend like 20 mins on tinder and get her a Chad delivered for free, I dont see why female whouldnt spend 20 mins on tinder to get a man way better than she is offered now.

she can attempt to hit up tinder chad and compete with all the other women trying the same thing.

It inst really a competition for Chad, as one Chad can be "utilised" by many women.

[–]empatheticapathetic13 points14 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

We agree on the same concept, but disagree on the reality of time and the amount of chads available. It’s true there are unlimited men for women on tinder, but only some will be chads. The higher her standards the harder it is to lock down her chad. And the reality is, people are busy. People have jobs and other commitments to go to. I’ve read many stories on reddit (relationship sub and other) of where the woman has to wait for her chosen chad for a week or more because he’s in demand (in and out of the sexual marketplace). The solution is multiple chads but not all women are utilising this.

I live with a woman who found her chad the week she moved in (just got to the country). She’s been here 9 months now and has met 2 other guys from tinder, both betas, and she’d rather wait 2 weeks for her reliable chad to be available, because she is aware of the mental cost of increasing her n count for unfulfilling sex. Competition is harsh for actual chads and on tinder, it’s a buyers market.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

So you are saying that that female have chosen to wait for chad instead of taking betas now, this seem to match what I've written.

Even if there is a value in here and now, females still can get chadlites and high tier normies here and now on tinder quite quickly, I still dont see any value female can get from a guy irl when she can get the same or better guy online is just a few minutes. The Chad here and now may have a big advantage from Chads online, the chadlight already has a smaller advantage because the time to get the guy like him or better is shorter than to get chad, and normie or incel will have no advantages at all.

[–]satansbarbedcock1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, if aren't at least a high-tier normie, you should probably just figure out a way to make a lot of money if you want to get laid and forget about tinder... just saying

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are probably right, but I don't even care about just physical sex that much.

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well now we’re agreeing in general. You decided that the only way to get chads is online and everyone she meets in person is low tier. If she is ok with chad lites and normies on tinder, she’ll be ok with the types of people she meets in real life, aka chad lites and normies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

But then there is no difference for a chadlite or a normie to be irl rather than on tinder

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bro. All women have different standards. Some places will have an abundance of available chads. Some places the opposite. Some have an abundance of women and few guys. So many competing factors that shift the reality of what ends up happening. There is no catch all simple one line answer.

NYC is supposedly full of women it’s easy to get laid. LA supposedly the complete opposite (I have no idea I’m not American).

[–]Crazylikethatglue0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't try to imagine what it could be like for a foid meeting a guy irl. by projecting what you would feel as a man meeting a foid irl. and be more forgiving when she has 20lbs too much but smiles at you.

[–]Crazylikethatglue1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

why would they accept mediogre offline?

Fixed.

[–]throwawaytothetenth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called the mere-exposure effect

[–]Sero-Flex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool hamster bro

[–]sh0t0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol nice catch

[–]sh0t10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tinder is 95% incels doing research

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It hurts not to get any matches with my real pictures but when I create meme account I get 10+ matches. Bitches want my attention but not my D...

[–]satansbarbedcock-5 points-4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't know. I met my girl on tinder and I'm not really hot. Only took about a month. I chatted with plenty of other girls too, but wasn't feeling anything from the conversation.

It depends how you use it. Yeah, you aren't going to be fucking a new girl every night, but only really hot dudes can do that irl also

[–]MrPancholi7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You hear that, bottom 70 percentile guys? You're using it wrong. It's totally your fault.

[–]TopKekketus8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Why are you here

[–]Njere[S] 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Not everyone here is an incel. I have a girlfriend but I really like social science and studies about human attraction.

edit: grammar

[–]DaNatural_11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They dont get it man, some people in the black pill community are just interested in the science and not actually incel. I have a high n count and been married to a HB8 for a 3 years(6 year total LTR) and she still swallows me the same as before marriage.

[–]Njere[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, just because I generally agree with what incels say doesn't mean I am one myself

[–]thatzombieoverthere3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

>I really social science and studies about human attraction

What

[–]Njere[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Typo. I meant, "I really like social science and studies about human attraction.".

[–]satansbarbedcock-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean?

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