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For real though what is wrong with this sub? Everyday I come on here there is some asinine post like "what's TRP's stance on juuling?" Or "should I drive an extra 40 minutes to make 60k?"

I thought this place was for discussion/clarification on Male sexual strategy not some betas dumping ground for his wall of text or "I want to die" post.

[–]gregoire_ 158 points159 points  (9 children)

6’5 bodybuilder just pissed in the urinal next to me and looked over. How can I establish myself and AMOG him?

[–]adam9545[S] 71 points72 points  (3 children)

Hold eye contact and proceed to piss on his shoes! I hear wolves urinate to mark territory I believe this can be applied to establish maximum dominance.

[–]RedKepler 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Bonobos communicate through intercourse, I suggest a radical change in approach halfway through the urination.

[–]adam9545[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Ah yes the pee-in-the-butt strat. Clearly I need to hit the sidebar again.

[–]MisterRoid 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Grab a hold of his dick to show you are the alpha male.

[–]sternje 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hold eye contact while pissing, smile, and tell him he looks like a normal guy.

[–]adam9545[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An ape never shows his teeth.

[–]BigWeenus42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peg him in the ass and show him why you are the grand champion of watersports.

[–]SuperCrazy07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

6’5 bodybuilder in the urinal next to me looked over and pissed on me. How can I establish myself and AMOG him?


[–]whatdidshewrite 83 points84 points  (10 children)

Most posters are people who are still new to TRP. Once people develop a strong enough understanding to think for themselves, they stop posting. So we’re constantly left with the shitters.

I’m probably going to stop posting here too to be honest. When I ask for advice I can get one or two good pieces of advice from more seasoned TRPers but the rest of it is just inbox spam of regurgitated crap like “AWALT” “oneitis” “focus on your mission” “lift” “read the sidebar”

[–]dogpill 1 points1 points [recovered]

Aside from that, there's a lot of passive aggressiveness from guys trying way too hard to look dominant through text.

[–]TheRealBrotherLouie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

t poses to show dominance

[–]iintrOOutroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. This is why I stopped posting any qs here. It was a great platform to get actionable advice but no more.

[–]adam9545[S] 20 points21 points  (2 children)

It's worth posting to get vandaleens or vasily's input sometimes but otherwise you are 100% right.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Happy you bring something back with your post. For the sake of my sanity please keep coming here.

[–]adam9545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely will be. Aside from the jokes I see some really great discussion going on in this post!

[–]AntiSharp 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Second half is so true. I’ve been complaining about the same thing. Just generic responses left and right.

[–]cowb3llf3v3r 2 points3 points  (2 children)

But a lot of generic questions are best answered with a generic response. If somebody asks a question where the topic has an entire post devoted to it in the side bar, it makes sense to reference the side bar. Why rehash what has already been fully explained somewhere.

[–]AntiSharp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’ve seen plenty of examples where they’re not generic questions. A few of my posts have been on the receiving end. Oftentimes they don’t even make sense. Like someone asks how to respond to a tricky text and someone replies ‘oneitis’. It’s such a lazy and meaningless answer. I get what you mean though. Some of the questions are lame.

[–]cowb3llf3v3r 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree that there are a lot of good questions that are met with lazy/weak responses. I think some people just get so used to throwing out certain buzzwords or canned responses that they have zero ability to provide any kind of reasoned insight to a question.

[–]btrpb 113 points114 points  (10 children)

Kids on here want their hand held.

[–]Sonny_Luna 18 points19 points  (9 children)

I know. It's fucking maddening. This community is just as bad as feminism. Every new kid who comes here proclaims all women as psychopaths and we wonder why we're quarantined.

This place sucks anymore.

[–]GiraffeOnWheels 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's the teenagers that get on my nerves.

[–]Sonny_Luna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Especially when they make a "field report". I get 3 quarters of the way through it before I deduce that some high school kid wants to play grown up and then I look for the comments letting him know that it isn't a good idea to make field reports when you still have a curfew and all I see are other posts taking it seriously.

It's good to see the light early but I don't think it's helpful to not be able to tell if a contributer has any idea what they're talking about or they just wanna be cool.

[–]CainPrice 49 points50 points  (29 children)

Somewhere along the line, people decided that they weren't just looking for advice on how to get laid, but were instead looking for a comprehensive philosophy by which to live their lives and a community to belong to.

It has to do with shifting demographics. 7 years ago, the TRP subreddit was started by guys in their late 20s-early 30s who were average, normal, frustrated dudes. They'd had a few girlfriends and a little sex growing up, but things never fully went their way, things kept getting harder, and in modern times circa 2012, they weren't having any luck at all. It turns out that around 1997, the internet started being a presence in every household, then around 2000, the game started to change - the Sex and the City years. Sex and the City aired from 1998-2004 and was a sign of how times were changing with regard to women and casual sex.

TRP was started around 2012 by these older guys who had been out of school and working for awhile and were suddenly having a terrible time trying to date because the game had changed and left them behind, and they needed to figure out how the game had changed and what to do differently to stay in it.

Today, TRP is mostly younger to mid 20s guys who were born and grew up in the internet and casual sex age. These aren't guys who are average but need to figure out what changed and how the new game works. They know exactly how things work today but have been deliberately passed over for casual sex due to far more significant appearance and social problems than what The Red Pill was designed for 7 years ago. So now they're hanging around looking for a sense of belonging and a community while they bitch about women.

[–]DeGENZerate 2 points3 points  (28 children)

So give them a solution

[–]adam9545[S] 16 points17 points  (22 children)

The solution is always right in front of them. All the answers are here. They just need to interpret the information in a way that's relevant for today's society.

[–]DeGENZerate 4 points5 points  (20 children)

Today's society is precisely the problem. Bobby cant get a girlfriend in college so he comes here. In earlier USA, Bobby gets a wife and doesn't need to worry about a Red Pill. The very concept is contextual to postmodern decay

[–]CainPrice 8 points9 points  (7 children)

The world definitely changed. An average guy used to get a wife just for having a job and treating enough women decently that one of them would agree to marry him.

Today, it's socially okay (even encouraged) for women to have casual sex instead of serious relationships. And it's easier than ever to have discreet hookups that will never affect a woman socially - especially in the age of the internet. Women have jobs and support themselves so a man having a job and a willingness to support a woman isn't that remarkable any more. It's nice, but not something to feel love or be grateful about. And the fact that being normal and having a job and treating women decently isn't working for most guys any more is increasing the number of unattached guys who are willing to this 100-fold, giving women their pick while making guys like this pretty boring and not very valuable.

I guess on an academic level, what changed is how to be valuable.

Being a respectable guy who works hard, has a good job, and treats women decently used to be valuable in the 80s and 90s. Guys like that could find a girlfriend without too much trouble. Their relationships weren't great and super-awesome, and their sex lives typically weren't stellar. But they weren't sitting around wondering what the hell is going on and why they can't even get a date despite doing everything right. But that's not valuable any more.

[–]dogpill 1 points1 points [recovered]

80's and 90s? Lol, no. What changed was the invention of birth control, after that the floodgates opened and women could fuck who they really wanted to fuck without the social shame of giving birth out of wedlock. The sexual revolution of the 60s is where everything changed. The only difference between the 80's and now is that with the Internet and video games taking over young men's lives more and more people are staying indoors being antisocial instead of going out and meeting people. Every tech obsessed society is going to have an increase in incels, just look at the Japanese. Too much porn, shit posting and video games, not enough partying, playing in bands and camping.

[–]CaptainFajita 1 point2 points  (0 children)


This is it, right here.

[–]CainPrice 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It was a gradual shift. Casual sex used to be something those dirty hippies did, while normal people with regular jobs and houses had normal lives. In 1995, you'd still go on dates in college instead of just hooking up with people in your dorm, probably meet your future wife while you were in college or shortly after, and the fact that you had a job and wanted to be a family man was valuable to at least some women.

It wasn't until having casual sex wouldn't affect a woman socially that we entered the full-blown casual sex age we have today. The internet helped with that - if you hook up on Tinder, none of our friends or coworkers will ever know. That's even easier than going home with a guy at a bar, because the people you went to the bar with will know.

In fact, nowadays, if you want to pick up women at a bar, look for women in pairs. Women don't go to bars alone (going alone would mean socially awkward creeps are going to try to talk to them), but when a woman is out in a group, she's probably out for some kind of event and isn't going to bail on her friends to hook up with you. Even if her friend group is just out for fun and not an event, she's probably not going home with you because her entire friend circle will think she's a slut.

But if two girls are out together? The odds are higher that you're looking at a pair of slut-friends who have an understanding that they're out to meet men for a hook-up.

Birth control was a huge change that got things started, but things didn't finish changing until casual sex became socially accepted and easier to keep discreet. It wasn't most women doing this until the social fallout from being slutty mostly went away.

[–]dogpill 1 points1 points [recovered]

You have no idea what you're talking about, people in the 90s had casual sex all the time. My brother grew up in the late 70s and 90s and all him and his friends would do was party and fuck girls because there was nothing else to do. There's a reason why the std explosion happened after the invention of birth control, people were fucking like crazy. Yeah it's true that girls use tinder now more so for casual sex than bars or clubs but there are way, way, way more guys than girls on these apps because guys don't have the balls to approach in person and need to hide behind a screen to talk to girls. You can still hook up with a girl at a bar, I just fucked a girl I met at a bar Saturday night. Yeah the game has changed but it's changed because technology has given girls lots of options, not because people weren't fucking in 5he 80's or 90s, my brother fucked over 50 girls in his 20s back in the late 80's and through the 90s, before any of this shit happened, just like most of his other friends because there was fuck all to do back then but go out and talk to girls.

[–]CainPrice 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm not asserting that casual sex didn't exist in the 90s and suddenly existed in the 2000s. Just that it wasn't as widespread.

Back when I was in college, casual sex was something a small-ish segment of the "bad girls" did, while it wasn't that hard to meet a girl who wasn't fucking around and going home with guys from bars. Most of my girlfriend back then had never had casual sex. Some had never had sex at all - and they were in college if you can imagine that.

Today, a woman over 18 who hasn't had sex is almost completely unheard of, college is pretty much casual sex central - people don't go on dates much and only kinda sorta have relationships.

We went from casual sex being a thing a certain segment of the population did by going to bars to something the majority of people do using a combination of bars and the internet.

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    [–]Tombert_Williams 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Kids: don’t worry about fixing society; worry about fixing yourself. There may be a lot of horrific women out there but you don’t need to fuck them all. All it takes is one. Or two. Maybe three. Or..., well, point is you don’t need them all.

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      [–]DeGENZerate -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

      This is incorrect and traditional social control wets the pussy. You only focus on the caretaking aspects but the farther back you go the more ruthless men were. Socially acceptable shaming and hitting wives keeps them yours. If you want to contest this then don't because dominance and rape turn women on. Most women orgasm when brutally raped. I am not justifying random rape since family is the ideal but pointing out there is a brutality/caretaking dichotomy that deconstructs your point. This is why surviving tradition and Islam is winning the high iq world in birthrates

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        [–]DeGENZerate 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Then go farther back. Tradition isn't the 1800's thats still well within the context of blue pill liberalism. My rape comment was definitely feminist nice job catching that one

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          [–]DeGENZerate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          You're too indoctrinated by globohomo to understand that I'm not talking about fucking a bunch of women in a pussy paradise. This is a materialist liberal way of measuring things pure quantity not quality. You are being a gay liberal congrats. But in the same breath tradition is a solid orientation for gaming women in the postmodern era.

          [–]Thor-Loki-1 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          Most women orgasm when brutally raped.

          You should seek some counseling.

          [–]DeGENZerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          You should seek some studies and read the evidence. Then look at how the feminists interpret it and laugh. Then go argue with u/VasiliyZaitzev about how rapekink doesn't exist

          [–]CainPrice 4 points5 points  (4 children)

          I've been at a bit of a loss. I'm mostly "normal" and "average", so I can tweak a few things about how I interact with women, work out a lot more, and do okay. I'm not sure what to tell a guy that is actually socially weird - like when he interacts with people, they can immediately tell how weird he is and avoid him - how to learn game.

          I think most of the old guard in the manosphere has been in a similar boat. They don't know what to tell the new guys because the general solution (look hot, be social, be interesting, learn game) is the same, but how to get there is wildly different. They just see a lot of young guys suffering and looking for solutions, so they decided to try to monetize the manosphere and get some side income out of guys who are desperate for anything.

          [–]adam9545[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          I dont think it's that sinister. It's easier than ever to stand put amongst the sea of betas these days. Simply applying even the oldest advice in the manosphere would get you atleast in the top 80%.

          [–]1FixYourselfFirst 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          TRP was designed to convert an average normal Beta guy into a desirable Alpha Male. And, yes, the material here can turn nearly any average male into a top 10-20% Alpha. But it isn't designed for socially awkward basement-dwelling incels. When an introvert tries to be IDGAF, it comes off wrong, and people think they are weird. They have to learn some social awareness so they can come off as normal.

          A 28yo virgin introvert male, still jobless, living at home, shouldn't try TRP right away. They have other things they need to fix first.

          [–]adam9545[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          You're right. It's like taking calculus before you even have a grasp on algebra.

          [–]DeGENZerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Perhaps instead of women the solution lies with men. These awkwards arent a result of lack of women but lack of form. Lack is what drives desire. The betas desire what they lack. Red Pill just wants to teach them how to fuck but the reason they can't fuck is because we give them a mushy missiontm that kinda sorta works instead of a solid solution that provides a way to set an orientation for both life and sex.

          [–]greenpill999 18 points19 points  (2 children)

          Most of the new posters here are struggling with confidence issues (insecurities) and lack of discipline. After lifelong beta conditioning they also read TRP like a bible and misinterpret alpha traits to be cold heartedness and completely disregard basic human logic. These things alone will create ridiculous questions.

          [–]adam9545[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          That is true but the side bar, and even the most basic TRP books advise you not to be a melancholic robot. I assume no one is actually reading the sidebar material or required reading before posting.

          [–]mrpthrowa 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Absent role models and father figures in most of today's men.

          I sympathise really. Some of these guys never really get to talk to a real man.

          [–]Thrawy125 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          This. I can't talk to my dad about shit. I learnt everything about life from the internet (Thank god I found TRP).

          One night i stayed out late with my friends, came in at 2AM and my mum told me that my dad has asked her to give me some 'Advice' bee's n the birds type shit. Boy couldn't even do it himself.

          [–]1FixYourselfFirst 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          This is our problem and we can fix it. When someone asks an asinine question, down-vote it. Bury it, two or three pages deep.

          • The Juul post is at zero, only one net down vote.
          • The job post is at zero, only one net down vote.

          If we had pushed them down to -5, most people wouldn't even see the post.

          [–]adam9545[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Your username is hilariously relevant to your advice.

          [–]TheStumblingWolf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Asktrp is for newbies. When you're new you don't know how differentiate between sand and dandruff. People ask this stuff out of ignorance. At least they're trying.

          [–]Kabuki431 8 points9 points  (5 children)

          Alphas piss on walls in public bathrooms to assert dominance. /s

          [–]adam9545[S] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

          What about shitting?? Does chad shit on the floor or is that reserved for home?

          [–]ArchsofArch 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          Maybe you want to shit in a bucket cause it is fucking freezing outside ? What's your problem with how other people do things?

          [–]adam9545[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          You're right! So I should apply the idgaf attitude to using the bathroom is what you are saying?

          [–]ArchsofArch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Yes this and lift.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Just wanted to chime in as a successful man who frequently shits in public; it’s about how you shit more than the act of shitting itself.

          After you have placed your poop, go no contact with that toilet for while to regain your composure, focus on yourself and your inner bowl movements.

          [–]1redhawkes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          This is what happens when you depend on mommy's tit.

          There's great lesson about "Manual" in The Book Of Pook.

          [–]dtyler86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Ahh relax.. the good worthy posts rose to the top. Every sub has 80% bs 20% gold, no difference here

          [–]boy_named_su 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          "I have autism, depression, anxiety, and spina bifida. I'm 5'2 and 112 lb. Why aren't girls flocking to me?"

          [–]adam9545[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          ReAd ThE SiDeBaR

          [–]I3onerPunch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Sometimes this sub feels like a public bathroom.

          [–]ChemicalGiraffe 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Read the sidebar

          [–]adam9545[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

          I did but it has no input on Male public bathroom strategies. I'm trying to maximize my smv here.

          [–]btrpb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          All Bathrooms Are Like That.

          [–]iFunnyPrince 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          They're pretty goddamn nasty. I'd try to avoid them when I could lol. Doesn't fit into TRP but people need to learn how to clean a damn bathroom!

          [–]adam9545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Mods! This is sidebar material

          [–]Pajca 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          To maximize your SMV you need to stop shitting at home and go strictly to public bathrooms.

          Every time you go you need to do at least 3 approaches.

          Always go for the highest SMV alpha males. Do not approach dudes who have a dick smaller than 15cm.

          Also never flush.

          Never wash your hands, but do look yourself in the mirror to ajust your hair and make sure you have some urine left on your fingers so it will stick better stay in place all day long.

          [–]adam9545[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          The smell of urine in my hair will attract mates for miles! I like the way you think. Thank you for your input

          [–]johker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          You see, what you’re actually seeing is the state of men.

          These dipshits need their hands held every step of the way and it’s only going to get worst.

          If you consider yourself even a little bit alpha, you’re already ahead of the curve.

          I’d go as far as to say that 9 out 10 guys are utterly hopeless.

          [–]adam9545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's the absence of hand holding that creates men. The "no one is perfect" approach the book of pook outlines demonstrates this perfectly.

          [–]someonesopinion6969 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          If you see a troll or problem post, don't engage them but use the REPORT link; this will bring it quickly to the attention of the mod team.

          Why do you care? There's a search functionality thankfully

          [–]On_The_Tweek_Again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Lol you’re so right, man. TRP is a guide. It doesn’t answer dumb questions like that. Everyone just needs to study the sidebar and absorb the information.

          An alpha doesn’t post on reddit asking silly questions. Genuine questions in the context of TRP philosophy are what this sub is for. I’m going to assume half of these people posting these silly questions are trolls.

          [–]GucciGangBucks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I actually don’t mind it. If the question is stupid don’t upvote it. But at the end of the day people are asking the red pill community questions and will get red pill answers no matter how stupid the question.

          You’ll most likely get better answers/info/activity here then any other sub you asked the question.

          [–]ycthrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          lmao, I was going to come here to rip you a new one. There are too many young kids. Frankly, I wish I learned about TRP younger but still shit is ridiculous.

          [–]furcryingoutloud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeah, I get frustrated too at some of these questions. But then you have to look at the source too. You have males brought up by single mothers who in the best of circumstances, have never had male contact beyond the occasional meeting with a blue pilled grandfather or uncle. They crave the lessons they can have here. That's what this sub is for.

          So to answer your question. If anyone in the bathroom looks at you weird, you simply jump on him and suck his dick. Once you're done, I promise you he'll never bother you again.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          This is a dumpster fire.

          [–]adam9545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          My next post was going to be about dumpster game

          [–]wtg2989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Lol you had me with the title at first, not gonna lie.

          [–]heyprestorevolution 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I mean a bunch of dumbass losers who needs something like this to make them feel good about the fact that they're alone for being dumb ass losers, are in their pathetic cuckedness, going to cowardly seek out the approval of the hivemind and circle jerk that helps them to face their unremarkable and cowardly lives.

          [–]adam9545[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Who hurt you?

          [–]1Terminal-Psychosis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Half the "questions" are false flags looking to troll.

          Most of the rest just need to lurk and read the sidebar.

          Vast majority of honest questions are answered already.

          [–]Hyper_Sonik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's because they take the red pill placebo. They lose any last whisp of an identity they had and want to know what to do. It all circles back to the SELF as the point of origin. That's why these bitch boys are so irritating. They are doing all these things to gain external validation instead of for their own well being. I don't mind the guys who need pointers on where they went wrong or what to do. It's the ones who use TRP to feed their ego''s. Like the faggots who think the no contact rule is for winning their ex back. It's maddening.

          [–]The_Peoples_Asshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I have noticed a few “unspoken” rules when it comes to the bathroom:

          1. Stall apart. In other words, stick to the odd-numbered stall. Let’s say you have 5 urinals in one bathroom. If we are counting from the left, don’t be the asshole who takes the 2nd stall when you see a dude on the 5th. At this point, if I’m next, I have to stand next to one of you guys to piss. Fucking weird! (I’ll try to diagram this so my explination makes more sense.)

          2. No talking. We are men. We have business to do. This is the reason bitch’s bathrooms have such big lines. They talk too fucking much.

          3. Overt your Eyes. Look up, look down, look straight. Unless you’re gay, don’t get curious about another dude’s junk. Which brings me back to #1. STALL APART.

          4. No shitting. Period. Unless Emergency. And in most cases, you know your “E” place, as I call it.

          Make sense?

          [–]HumptyDumptyFellHard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Are you fucking kidding me?

          [–]INNASKILLZ2K18 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

          And this post has what to do with sexual strategy?

          [–]adam9545[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Did you not see the responses I got? I know exactly how chad would use the bathroom now!

          [–]BloodSurgery 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          It's a post about the state of the sub. Stop trying to troll this post lol

          [–]INNASKILLZ2K18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The guy is pointing out that some questions are lame. It's Reddit, and a bunch of high schoolers are here, and incels. What does he expect?

          [–]BittyMitty -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          I was wondering why this had upvotes.
          The retarded question is a good click bait :))

          [–]adam9545[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          REDDITORS HATE HIM: see how he got upvotes with one simple trick.