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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1572949/

I’ve been looking for a while but haven’t found anything. I’ve typed in the citation, the names of the researchers etc but still haven’t found any results for this. While this doesn’t necessarily have to do with typical black pill stuff I figured coming here would get me more reliable data anyway since most of the people on r/science or r/askscience are nubs that deny reality. Anyway hope to see some results. Thanks in advance.


[–]aaahonkhonk4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

http://sci-hub.tw/10.1080/01688639208402828

Scihub has basically every academic paper, just add the doi after "sci-hub.tw" (the domain changes every so often, check Google for new ones if .tw ever goes down)

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok thx

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit, after reading that paper I’m pretty sure I’m going to just off myself

[–]empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

If you’re depressed OP make sure you are taking vitamin D3 supplements.

[–]CuriousExMuslim1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've been taking Vitamin D3 for 4 months now, a whole lot of it. It doesn't help at all.

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dose? And are you taking k2 as well?

[–]CuriousExMuslim1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

62.5 mcg or 2500 IU. I've been taking multivitamins with K2 in it as well. I don't think I'll ever be genuinely happy tbh. My parents don't allow me to go to a therapist because they keep saying to me 'you're fine' even though I genuinely want to kill myself.

[–]empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well you’re darker skinned like me mr ‘exmuslim’ so 2500 isn’t gonna do shit. I take 10,000 daily. Fuck the multivitamin and take a separate k2 with your D3, multivitamins don’t work. Your body can only take in what it needs from a multivitamin.

And about your parents. My life didn’t even really begin until I harshly cut contact with my parents. I tried to for many years and once I just decided “fuck them” I left and don’t speak to them at all anymore. I hate them and hate how much they fucked me up.

If you think a therapist is the answer then sure go for it, but D3 and some independence and an exercise routine will probably sort you out completely.

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

That’s not going to help me. Not after reading this paper

[–]empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like mindfulness is another necessary factor. You can think and convince yourself into suicide or you can ‘dumb’ yourself down somewhat. I’m gonna check it out now.

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t. It’s incredibly depressing, at least for me.

[–]Gruss_p1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Now you can experiment with your life. Like you are a rat and mad scientist at the same time.

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk if I want to. I’ve never taken a real IQ test before and I’m not sure if I want to. On one hand if I score really well I’d be able to pull myself out of my depression but if I score low it’ll probably destroy what little self esteem I have.

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Besides I didn’t take a IQ test before I got depression so that makes it difficult to get an accurate reading

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What? Dumb myself down? Did you look at the study? It says that the average IQ loss is about 4-5 points

[–]DifficultReference2 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't wanna read it, can you summarize it?

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Average IQ loss is about 4 points. The probability of depression in dumb versus smart isn’t mentioned in this study, but if you search up “Swedish military IQ study” and click on one of the first links (it’s a .gov) that should suffice. That study says lower IQ means your more likely to experience depression

[–]PimlicoResident0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

My reasoning for why higher IQ can be associated with more/less depression instances.

I personally have lived a blissful existence until finding various alt-subreddits, like this one. When you get to the meat of science, and also experiences in real world, how interviews in my field are conducted, smart people know the truth: they are looking for ways to confirm IQ, speed of thought as a signifier of success. When you fail an interview, they basically tell you that your brain is not good enough. If you know what it means to fail an interview, it sucks. It hits at that primordial level when a woman rejects you, essentially saying: "I don't want your genes to pass to next generation".

Weirdly, such knowledge made me more empathetic because it explains a lot why shithole countries are the way they are: I could have born in their shoes and not have advantages of reasonable intelligence I happen to luck out into. I wonder if lots of liberals in politics, science form their aggressive policies of helping the inferior with such knowledge because they realise it is not their fault to be the way they are.

On the other hand, I have met people who are superior and are absolutely ruthless: they don't stop to reflect that they got lucky. I have talked with a guy from Syria, smart person, and he called everyone around him retards. Zero sympathy. He now studies on full-fledged scholarship in USA, and this signifies inequality even more. But such people can flush any ideas like above down the drain as non-productive, because they do not have that empathy to help unlucky people.

This is what it boils down to in life. Luck. One SNP change, and you have cystic fibrosis. A delete/insert between good life and shit life.

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I know what you’re saying. I guess I have a massive fear that I am one of those “inferior” low IQ people. My family has pretty high IQ generally speaking. My grandfather had an IQ of 144 and my grandmother 137, my mom 125, and my father 131-134. I haven’t gotten tested yet and likely won’t for a while but I have a huge fear that somehow I didn’t get the same high IQ genes that my parents and grandparents have or even worse that I HAD a high IQ but ruined it from years of being depressed and not doing good things with my life. and as a result of that I’ll be depressed forever, not able to work my way out of depression and not worthy of reproduction. I mainly got super depressed about it when I heard about this thing called the breeder equation and the regression to the mean formula where generations tend to have lower IQ than their parents. Ex: two people with a IQ of 130 reproducing could have a child of 118 IQ (assuming their parents IQs were 100) I’ve never really done very well in school, partly because I’m lazy and never study, but also because my depression makes it difficult to concentrate and get motivated to do anything or remember anything. So it’s always been sort of a insecurity of mine.

[–]h0tNreadyTidep0d 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sample size is really small and this is correlation not causal. There are other factors that limit IQ scores in depressed people such as lack of nutrition and sleep.

But beyond all of that IQ is not an overall reliable score to measure intellegence. It was designed by the military to measure ability to fly planes. It has inherent sexual/racial/cultural bias along with a limited scope of tested abilities. As in you could be a musical genius but not have a high vocabulary or a regional difference in dialect and it will affect your scores.

It's not reliable as an overall indicator of intelligence.

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sample size isn’t significant if it’s proportional.

There are other factors that limit IQ scores in depressed people such as lack of nutrition and sleep.

And that would be taken into account when looking at the scores. Even if it’s not the depression itself the effect of depression still damages the brain in the long term. Besides it got a lack of nutrition and have shitty sleep patterns so I imagine this would affect me.

[–]pricknstab0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is r/scholar still a thing? Blackpill them by requesting all these papers

[–]wowitskapow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk but that sounds like it would be fucking hilarious. Thx for the idea

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