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What was the best revenge you've ever gotten?πŸ“·
Manuel Navarette, former Research Associate at United States Geological Survey (2006-2010)
Updated Feb 11 Β· Upvoted by Jeremi Shearon, Assistant Manager at Casey's General Stores (2017-present)

Originally Answered: What is the β€œsweetest” revenge you’ve ever taken?

I caught my fiancΓ©e cheating on me with some other guy whom she met at the gym. I had built the house we lived in from the ground up, and was smart enough to have bought and installed a surveillance system that not only covered the entire yard, but the inside of the house as well.

The system included HD video, audio recording, and even came with night vision. I did not tell her about the system and she never suspected that she was being watched inside the house.

I caught her calling the guy and giving him our address and inviting him over to β€œfuck" in her own words. Everything was caught on camera, with audio to boot, and I made sure to make extra copies and save them as evidence.

The next day, she went to work as if nothing happened. I left for work as I normally do but once I was away from the house, I called my boss and told them I was taking a few days off. I’ve been with this company for over 12 years and was good friends with the owner, so he had no problem with me taking time off. I waited till she came back to the house to begin my plan.

The first thing I did was to call all her credit cards and cancel them. Since I paid for everything and they were in my name, I had no problem getting those cancelled. The next thing I did was to take the money from our joint checking account out to put it into my own personal checking account. I then collected all of her clothes, jewellery, shoes, etc. and stuffed them into garbage bags and tossed them into my truck. I had a couple of buddies meet me that morning at the house to help me out.

I also changed the codes to get into the house, locking her out. We finished loading everything into my truck and one of my buddies’ trucks and left the house. The first stop was at her job where I used the extra key to her car to get in and drive it away back to my house, while my buddy followed in my truck. The car was in my name and I was not going to let her have it.

We then drove to her mom's house which was about an hour away and left all her stuff on her mom's porch. I explained to her mom and her sister what she did and told her that it was over and I didn't want her in my house any more.

It took about 20 minutes after leaving her mom's house before I got the first phone call from my now ex. I ignored her phone calls until about call number 10. By this point she was screaming at the top of her lungs about her stuff being dumped at her mom's house. She demanded an explanation and started threatening to call the police. I laughed and sent her a clip of her sex video that was caught on the home surveillance camera. Just to be petty, I also sent the video to her mother and her two sisters as well.

The shit really hit the fan when she got off work and discovered that her car was no longer there. She had to have her mom pay for a Lyft to carry her back home since none of her credit cards worked and her debit card was useless. I continued to receive regular phone calls for the next three to four days which I ignored. I kept her car in the garage where it sits to this day. I've driven it a grand total of twice and I am thinking of selling it once it's paid off.

She never bothered coming back to the house, and I heard that she had a lot of blow-back from her family regarding her extra-curricular activities. She was forced to get a full time job to make ends meet since she was only working part time when she was living with me.

I have since moved on and dated a couple of times but I'm holding off getting into something serious until I can find somebody I can truly trust.

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[–]Irtotallynotrobot 286 points287 points  (5 children)

Don't discuss, take action. Great example. This is levying consequences in a way a lot of men don't nowadays.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 71 points72 points  (4 children)


I remember a quote about communication from TRP.

"Don't communicate. Communication is validation-seeking behaviour"

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[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Action is the best form of communication, agreed.

[–]Irtotallynotrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a good point, I hadn't thought of it like that.

[–]AllahHatesFags 305 points306 points  (8 children)

Epic story. Apparently every married guy needs to have his entire house under surveillance these days.

[–]Synthetic_Citizen 109 points110 points  (1 child)

Not only his house, but his vehicle and his person aswell.

[–]2Overkillengine 95 points96 points  (4 children)

"Trust but verify"

[–]Trainmasta 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Useful for dealing with Russians over nuclear disarmament and your significant other...

[–]Dokkobro 11 points12 points  (0 children)

same same but different

but still same

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[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, if you try monogamy that may be good thing to do.

[–]1campfire451 173 points174 points  (46 children)


Why would you have joint credit cards and bank accounts with a fiancΓ©e? Good on him not marrying her and finding some last-minute balls but his behavior leading up to this is utterly moronic. You don't treat a girlfriend like a wife.

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 80 points81 points  (42 children)

It's going around like crazy. My fiancee was angry with me because she had to move in with her family because I would not move in with her. I told her that I don't believe in cohabiting before marriage. Been there, did that, got burned. That was a constant uphill for 4 years but im glad I kept my ground. She knows that when I believe in something I dont give in

[–]Robster25 53 points54 points  (25 children)

I can understand you don't want to cohabitate with your fiancΓ©e, because it would restrict your freedom. But don't you think it would be smart to live with her for some time, to check if you two are compatible in the same household, before you marry her? (I assume you want to get married, otherwise you wouldn't have proposed).

[–]Ivabighairy1 26 points27 points  (0 children)

"Oh baby, I don't believe in living together before marriage."

Translation:"Fuck all if you think I'm marrying you!"

[–]Garathon 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Do you know which sub you're on? Married, lol!

[–]mutageno 8 points9 points  (1 child)

A better test is a multi-week trip. Got breakup for 2 relationships right after that.

[–]Eldudearino89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Went on 1.5 month trip around the USA. All I needed to know when I got back was to DTB.

[–]PleezSitOnMyFace 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I've read that the six months leading up to the wedding you cohabitate to make sure you can stand it

[–]Omnidempotent 10 points11 points  (13 children)

It makes even less sense if he's fucking her. The reason cohabiting before marriage was taboo was because it would lead to premarital sex. That's it. If you're already fucking her, it doesn't make sense.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 33 points34 points  (10 children)

He should have zero intention of marrying her. Do not live with them. Do not get married. I rarely give themmy real name and lately they dont even know where I live..

There is zero benefit for men to marry. It's nothing but risk with zero reward, and it's a serious fucking risk. I was stupid and did it twice, I'm just now getting my life back from the abyss and out of debt. It's been 6 fucking years since I kicked her lying cheating ass out. She got anything she wanted from the judge, I had to pay and went to jail for shit I didn't do.

If you want to marry, firstly you're a fucking idiot. Secondly you're delusional if you think it can't happen to you.

Never marry., ever

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[–]Chaddeus_Rex 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I am Pablo Escobar in the streets and hold a gun to her head in the sheets

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have 5 middle names, I offer the 2nd

[–]jorgander 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Never marry., ever

I get that you want to help others avoid the pitfalls that happened to you, but be careful about assuming that just because something happened to you, even multiple times, that it is guaranteed to happen to others. You are right - a man is delusional if he thinks it can't happen to him - can't being the operative word, not won't. Marriage is difficult, even very difficult, but not impossible.

[–]inertargongas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Marriage is pointless. Any male still entertaining the idea needs to get their head examined.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll marry a woman someday in a foreign country to get some easy residency papers. That means not needing to do a border run every 90 days for a country that I already like a lot. A big point though is that it doesn't mean that I need to always be there, bank there, make my money there, etc. Marriage can be a huge bureaucratic boon. Its only USA-context suck if I were to stop taking advantage of the larger world. On a related note there was once a time when the only way for me to reliably clean up my driving record was by living abroad for years at a time.

[–]swimminginblue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

22 year old guy here... wow damn that’s rough . So happy I discovered this place at 21

[–]ryandiy 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The reason cohabiting before marriage was taboo was because it would lead to premarital sex.

The people on this sub don't object to cohabitation because of taboos about premarital sex. It's because it causes a man to give up far too much freedom and power in the relationship. Read the sidebar.

[–]J_St0rm 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And it gives them legal rights to your property in some places.

[–]nombre1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cohabiting before marriage is actually one of the strongest indicators of future divorce. There are lots of theories about why this is the case, including an increased sentiment that marriage is just a piece of paper, to obtain or dissolve at will.

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I agree Rob, but I can honestly say I don't know how to do that without moving into a Husband mindset.Wouldn't it be easier to enter Husband mode with a fresh start versus turning it on at a future date?

By easier I mean more logical

[–]Malnourished1 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Starting off as married when you begin to live together won't make a difference. It's just a title. It's actually less logical, instead of checking compatibility as co-inhabitants prior to marriage you're willing to roll the dice. If marriage is the path you want to go down then I'd advise you to allow her to move in because all being married will do is make it harder to get away in event that you guys are incompatible house mates. Does she leave her things out and expect you to clean them up or maybe her parents have never required her to clean so she's not willing to do it. Some of these things may be small but are make or break in some cases and you want to gamble with them. I personally have a (male) bestfriend who I get along with better than anyone on this planet but we've lived together before (holiday) I could never live with that motherfucker permanently and I love the bloke. Reconsider marriage but if you're adamant at least know what you're walking into!

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's actually great advice and a great example. I have time to consider my choice. She's a good woman, hard worker, no social media, loves her family but she's no snowflake either. Compared to the bulk of what's out there she's been down for a while but has hiccups

[–]Robster25 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very well said. Being married is just a label, just as being in a relationship is. It should not change who you are as a person.

[–]1campfire451 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This guy's story would have gone very differently if he'd been married rather than engaged. The living together wasn't the problem. He was playing the blue pill game of feeding her BB strategy by provisioning (house, financial support, car, and etc). Live-in-fiancΓ©e is pretty much the best BB play there is. The mixing of finances was too far, though. That's too much unearned comfort and commitment. She hasn't even committed her womb to him. This guy's "revenge" story isn't really much of a revenge because he didn't actually have the noose of marriage around his neck. It's more of a dodging-a-bullet story.

The long and the short of red pill is never treat any woman like a "wife". Yes, you don't treat girlfriends like wives. But if you're already married before you find the red pill, the lesson is to give up your blue pill vision of a wife and go back to treating her like a girlfriend.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I lived with my ex-GF for a period of 3-4 months, quickly became convinced that it would never work because of her toxic lifestyle and inability to take control of it, so I kicked her out. We got back together with boundaries for a month, but she kept violating them, so that was the end of that. When you live with someone, it is very difficult for them to hide who they are, especially if they have toxic habits.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My fiancee

You have fixed this problem, yes?

[–]redpillobster 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Conventional knowledge, but stupid nonetheless. If I’m not mistaken, people who live together before marriage have higher rates of divorce. It doesn’t help.

Marriage 2.0 is bullshit anyway. If you don’t marry a conservative girl/religious girl, it’s not marriage.

[–]do_it_or_leave 1 point2 points  (11 children)

You should read more. AWALT.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 4 points5 points  (9 children)

you should try statistics..

[–]KumonRoguing 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Gotta find those Asian, active catholic, virgin, masters degree holding women to reduce your chance of divorce to 20%. Seems doable lol.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The Red Pill is about reality and facts. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.

BTW if you're white marrying asian doesn't help, in fact it hurts.

The current 46% divorce rate includes a LOT of sub 20 year old women, sub 25 year olds men, and a LOT of multi divorced people.

The actual divorce rate among white/white who havent been divorced before and who are educated and relatively squared away isn't even 20%

Be a top 10% man and the odds change even more.

Want a guarantee? Doesn't exist.

[–]KumonRoguing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was referring to one of the studies typically touted around here. Also, squared away? Does someone have a little America in them.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Russian roulette is a numbers game too.

[–]5Imperator_Red 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Actually 90% of the retards in this world quoting stats should just shut the fuck up because they have no idea what they are talking about. Correlation does not imply causation. For example, just because cohabiting and divorce are correlated does not mean that cohabitation causes divorce. There could be one or more other variables causing both.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

and if you ignore correlation you might be one of the retards

[–]5Imperator_Red 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bahaha. So far over your head.

[–]redpillobster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course AWALT. My point is that marriage is a religious structure, so if you're marrying a woman who isn't religious or doesn't value the structure, you're not actually getting married. Marriage 2.0 is useless.

It's not that religious women are different - they are the same. But they have more reasons to be faithful. Men and women BOTH act outside their nature when they are religious.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good on him not marrying her and finding some last-minute balls but his behavior leading up to this is utterly moronic

This. He didn't give her any chance to behave better: gave her credit cards, gave her car, probably hardly hold her accountable until that one particular situation.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You don't treat a girlfriend like a wife.

Assuming you're stupid enough to get married, you don't treat a wife like a wife, either.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 115 points116 points  (25 children)

There's a couple really big lessons to be learnt from this.

Don't get married obviously - She hadn't even said her vows and she was already lining up extra dick. When you give her excess comfort, she won't value you for it, she'll use that comfort and security to springboard onto the next best thing. She knows your're heavily invested in her and know's you're not going anywhere, she'll treat you as such.

Don't fund her - Some guys think by funding their women they're locking them in. Women don't view it this way. They just see some over-invested schmuck willing to pay for her lifestyle. She'll use her free time to get railed by Brad from the Gym who gives her a toblerone once every 3 months. Once a woman knows she has a mans provisioning and commitment locked in her automatic response is to seek for that new, exciting thrill again. She probably would have married this guy, while fucking other guys and eventually divorce raped the shit out of him.

The only exception I have to this is if you have kids and you wan't a mother to stay at home and be an involved mother so you don't have to spend money on a nanny.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Solid vetting process, you should know what you're getting yourself into. She should have shown exceptional loyalty, commitment and treated you well for years on end. She should have motherly qualities, like nurturing, caring, loving etc.

Then you need to mentally prepare yourself to lose your place as her top priority. Your child will become the most important thing in the world to her and your relationship will never be the same. It's a family now, no longer a pair, roles change.

Marriage is not required, but you will want to be supporting the mother of your child to spend as much time being a good mother to your child, I personally would like to enable her to put attention on the home unit as much as possible.

The man should provide, look out for the families best interest, work and earn while she takes care of the home. Throughout this process the man needs to lead, guide and be the pillar of strength and reason. Be involved as much as possible in your child's life, in today's society it will need a strong masculine figure to guide it to navigate the modern world.

While doing this you still need to maintain your value as a man, although you're a family, she still needs to be aware that you're not that you can and will leave her (even though you don't intend to) She still needs to know you have the money, value and ability to still game and get other women. This will drive her to respect and value you and the fact that you stick around.

Excess comfort only leads to worse treatment for you and a more unstable environment for your child to grow up in.

Lastly have the awareness to know that this could possibly all come crashing down, there's no guarantees, and she'all probably get custody this is a risk you're taking and you can only take the best possible steps to make it a success.

[–]Psychocist 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She should have shown exceptional loyalty, commitment and treated you well for years on end

That's the first problem. We don't have years on end to properly vet every women coming through our lives. If I spent 4 years with 4 different women I'd have already gone through 16 years of vetting (unless I vet them at the same time). I wouldn't think about children with someone unless I'd spent 4/5 years with them. The older you get the smaller that window is. Not just that, society is constantly changing. So what if you vetted someone 20 years ago? Doesn't matter in modern society because they're in a different environment (women fill the container). You have to make educated decisions on your feet.

I wouldn't even consider raising children in Western society unless I was rich. I intend to stay in Asia for the rest of my life, but the disease has firmly taken root here, too.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's why I firmly believe getting good at that initial vetting is so important. You have to be able to recognize red flags early on so that you're not expending unnecessary time on unstable women. Either way, one should never go in with the expectation of forever, it goes as long as it's good.

Kids is always a toss up though, because of the vast changes mother hood has in a women. You can only make the best possible selection for your future offspring and try your best to keep it together, there's no guarantees.

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[–]tunsku 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Yeah, thats not the point, the point is to raise a child.

[–]ALLTHEUSERNAMESRFUKI 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah the child is suppose the be the win. Now whether you think having a child is a win is up to the individual. Some do, some don't.

[–]ChrimsonChin988 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excess comfort (for her) only leads to worse treatment (for you)

That one sentence is 90% of everything you must know.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 10 points11 points  (1 child)

How do you have kids without getting fucked down the road?

There are no certainties here. Our society hates men and hates fathers, so you're walking a tightrope. One mistake and it's all downhill from there.

Primarily don't get married. Marriage is a one-sided provisioning contract that benefits only women. It kills attraction, it kills respect and it kills male options. When you separate (and 99% chance you will or you should), you'll be glad you don't have to give her everything, pay for your lawyer, pay for her lawyer and then pay alimony for life.

Other than that, read this:

http://blackdragonblog.com/2016/07/28/the-12-steps-have-kids/ (not affiliated)

[–]NightFire45 17 points18 points  (6 children)

Vet properly. Waaay too many RPers think with the wrong brain. The better questions is why in 2019 would you marry a woman that makes significantly less than you?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Do not marry

Her temporary high income is irrelevant: she can (and likely will) leave her job when she's pregnant and may never want to work full time again. Divorce laws will favour her even if she's richer than you: "Why didn't you earn more? Why are you living off a woman? what's wrong with you?".

[–]NightFire45 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Well...this reallllly depends on your local laws.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Your local laws are irrelevant if she moves somewhere else.

[–]NightFire45 -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Look at the armchair lawyer here. Please enlighten the class on where you studied law and what type of law you currently practice?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Because you totally need a law degree to see that men get shafted in 99% of marriage and divorces.


My absence of a law degree clearly means that I should get married to the next ho I meet.


Thankyou for your stunningly useful contribution.


[–]smartscience 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure we deal with facts rather than credentials here, otherwise we'd be listening to Michael Kimmel of Stony Brook University.

[–]Brazilian_Slaughter 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Good question. I need to know this as well.

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[–]Psychocist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How so? I've considered this myself. Seems like the best of both worlds. I can develop strong relationships with my children and raise them properly and keep women away from serious commitments/responsibilities.

Surely the surrogate mother doesn't have a say. She must be signing away her responsibility or legal rights over the children?

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(In most states), just don't get married. Keep your finances separate other than what you contribute into a joint household account. Write a separate will for yourself that spells out who gets what money (like I would never stiff Legal Cohabiting Female if I were to die--she needs to take care of the kids). Use trusts. There is a long list of things you can do to protect yourself, but ultimately the most important thing is what you shouldn't do--put the gun to your head, pull the trigger and put a ring on your finger.

I've said this before. If I could go back in time, I probably would still have kids with LCF. She is a very good mother. I would absolutely not marry her. I would put massive boundaries around the situation (some listed above). The kids would be tested for paternity. She would not use my money to ride other dick. She would get tested for STDs frequently, even if she's telling me she isn't doing anything. Ditto for me. Cohabiting would be best for the kids, so that would be fine, up until she crosses a boundary. And I would be super clear about these expectations from the start. You can't trickle this sort of shit into any sort of arraignment you make with a woman. The hamster would softball these right out of the park.

[–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait it out long enough and we might have artificial wombs and designer babies on sale.

If you don't want to get fucked don't give women power over your life.

[–]1sezamus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your comment explains a lot of what I am dealing with in Poland right now. Even tough Poland is very conservative, I tend to get a lot of attention from young, hot, just married women. I look thugish, very manly and they just throw themselves. All I have to do is to ask for her name and the rest goes by itself. It does not stop amusing me how the world works when you have red glasses on.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Eh, this kind of has a "cool story bro" feel to it. The guy has literally no emotional reaction to discovering infidelity. Also, he just happens to have built the house from scratch and installed a security system, which is quite an accomplishment, like something you'd see in a Hollywood film. All that other stuff he did is all fine and dandy, but I'm sure there would probably be litigation over it, or even white knights deployed.

However, I do agree with the spirit of preparation.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"MGTOW revenge porn" feel, in my opinion. Feels good, but not actionable information for the typical man in most jurisdictions and with most American women and their FSM.

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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 72 points73 points  (6 children)

I'm holding off getting into something serious until I can find somebody I can truly trust

Wow, some people really are determined to be slow learners.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I read that and thought, "This guy has learned nothing."

That said, it reads more like "Revenge Porn" than something that really happened, but whatevs.

[–]Modredpillschool 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Wow, some people really are determined to be slow learners.

Says the frog to the scorpion: Why did you sting me?

I will simply hold off until I find one that does not sting...

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 28 points29 points  (3 children)

I will simply hold off until I find one that does not sting...

Turn gay

[–]SuperCrazy07 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You’ll definitely be getting the stinger then.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 4 points5 points  (1 child)

"They turn frogs gay"... now scorpions?!

[–]EveryGodDamnDay 68 points69 points  (11 children)

This story reads like a high school revenge porn fantasy. He anticipates the reader calling bullshit at every turn and offers a neat handwaving explanation for every little thing.

Besides that, why all the drama? Kick her out and move the fuck on.

And not seeing women until he finds one he can trust? Jesus Christ.

[–]RealMcGonzo 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yeah, seems like revenge porn. Plus, you cannot legally just kick somebody out. My dad's best friend allowed his GF to move in. They broke up but he had to fucking have her evicted!

[–]PM_Me_OK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That doesnt mean he didnt kick her out...maybe she didnt fight it cuz she totally fucked up.

[–]OutsideTheCage3 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Virtually all jurisdictions have processes for evicting someone from their apartment or home. If she had called the police and said that she wants to re-enter her home because she has been unlawfully evicted, they would likely help her. She would also be able to sue him for unlawful eviction.

Now, it's possible that the chick in this story was sufficiently humiliated to just "go away," but, if she hadn't, he would not be writing a smug story.

[–]doyoufuckwiththewar -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Wouldn’t there need to be a lease or contract for this to be considered an eviction? I would assume the police would be unable to help her without a legal right to access the property. If you have any further insight I’m curious to hear it.

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[–]doyoufuckwiththewar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was assuming the police would be present while she reclaimed her property. I don’t include my reputation in this community though. My brother is in a tough situation and I was only hoping to gain some insight.

[–]PsychedelicDentist 23 points24 points  (0 children)

What sort of faggot also places secret hd surveillance cameras in every room in his own house and spies on his partner

Also how did he know about the phone call unless he was specially watching her every time she was on the phone, but this motherfucker also planted devices to record audio too?! I don't give a fuck how paranoid you are, a man wouldn't secretly listen to all of his girls calls like that. Who the fuck even has the time??

And this beta was also fully paying for his bitch's entire lifestyle, even while she was working!

This is some mad incel revenge dream - can't believe anyone here is buying this nonsense

[–]suxxos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought he's a total loser. Okay, cheating is bad, I get it. But I can see why women want a total financial independence when a guy treats his fiancΓ©e like she was and object in his possession.

[–]PM_Me_OK -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You sound like a cynical bastard.

[–]LordMarkStark -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol yeah even night vision! She still rode the cock. What's the point of this fellow other than pride. Sounds made up as in that's what he wanted to do instead of did.

And he contributed majorly to her actions of course.

Then he filmed her without knowledge for ages.

Maybe we should say good on her. If that's his personality. Was probably very paranoid anyway. And a bad match. Yes that can excuse her if he was bad to her and the story was real. Just maintaining skepticism. It's unverified.

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"Just to be petty, I also sent the video to her mother and her two sisters as well."

Revenge porn charge?

[–]himsenior 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well the story doesn't claim he caught them having sex, only that she invited him over on unambiguous terms.

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 10 points11 points  (17 children)

I wonder if while this guy was at work, he spent all his free time running tape of his girl. What are the odds of many unless this was something she did constantly that he would find gold? I kind of feel that the Op contributed to his girlfriend's actions with little cues that attract that kind of stuff.

Reading this again, is a real slippery slope. The man in me sees his view point but the alpha in me see's a this would have never happened if ABCDEFG... was different.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I kind of feel that the Op contributed to his girlfriend's actions

Don't blame the victim here.

He provided for her and she cheated. That's all you need to take away from this.

[–]Eldudearino89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Or at best she could have been like peace I'm out

[–]LordMarkStark 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I say above essentially he's probably a creep of sorts. He could be very rich but it's not the most common or believable story. Even if not a creep he probably drove her away from him as it is. Can anyone blame her beyond the massive breach of trust, since she was obviously over it.

For him though if true I'm glad he got out unscathed. If he's going to support a girl where it hinges on loyalty to that level he'll need cameras.

Really he just needs to make better choices or up his game. This mofo even had audio!!! Amazing.

Though there's probably a lot of cheating in long relationships in general. It just sounds like she wanted a whole new bed instead of just a new dick now and then. Which is too much even for the most open of people.

I think he was a very foolish man or liar. I don't believe the entire story though. Or he glossed over details, maybe there was a fight etc.

He basically was weak and secretive. Hardly endearing quality's to tie a pussy to for the Long haul. Imagine her life having everything given to her and he's a schmuck. It's debilitating. Sure she also has no respect, she could have told him how she felt, but also it seems opppressive once the novelty wears off. You can't buy love. If it's a true story I like how he maintained a semblance of honesty but it's all so wrong.

I wouldn't read into this story, it has little value. He should front load his love life with alpha values instead of relying on others to keep their end of the bargain just because - and it's disingenuous to rely on so many gifts as a backbone, it's human nature she would stray as nothing is actually keeping her there. He was foolish and even he probably would admit that. But since he gave her so much, beta fool or not, or waking up to what she was like, whatever, I'm still on his side. But it doesn't sound like there was much there for her anyway. If he had any sense and maybe he did, he was at least flirting with others. She was leeching. He must have known.

Telling a woman she is a kept woman when she's not is only lying to yourself.

Imagine the level of protection he had over his investment in her. This guy in their love was essentially spinning his wheels a lot and getting no where. It would have turned her off in a major way, and giving someone that much is manipulation, it's not 1920 anymore. He got what was coming to him.

[–]NightFire45 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Considering he had all of her assets under his name and was video recording her he seems like a very insecure bitch. I'd bet he mate guarded like a sperg.

[–]LordMarkStark 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lol that's it. When she gets a rise from some guy a car means nothing and any mate guarding is in vain, it's all set up wrong. As guys we'd probably do it too, so I don't know why he expected differently. For him it's just an open and shut transaction. But if he wants to keep a girl he needs to change next time.

[–]NightFire45 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Of course I get downvoted. It seriously feels like this sub is full of bitter incels.

[–]justtenofusinhere 19 points20 points  (17 children)

I strongly suspect this is nothing more than a masturbatory fantasy. Almost every jurisdiction makes it a significant crime to secretly record conversations you are not a part of (that why most/all CCTV cameras are video only). Most/all places make it a serious crime to secretly record a person to obtain naked/sexual pictures of that person. Many, not all, places make it a crime to distribute images of sexual activity without permission of those on camera/for revenge.

If the person writing really did this and wasn't hammered with multiple felonies, then he is lucky beyond belief. The fact that it was in his home is irrelevant.

[–]flapjacksrbetter 30 points31 points  (9 children)

u can have surveillance in your home. its private property

[–]okuli 8 points9 points  (7 children)

u can have surveillance in your home. its private property

Washington law requires the consent of all parties to a private communication in order to record. It doesn't have an exception for private property.

Not sure why people upvote comment above, privacy laws have nothing to do with private property.

BTW, story above is a BS, it's just some justice porn fantasy.

[–]Dubalicious 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Ok so the OP from the story committed a crime because he recorded A STRANGER COMING INTO HIS HOME TO FUCK HIS GIRLFRIEND without that strangers permission? or maybe im missing something?

[–]okuli 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Yes, that's how law work.

Washington's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Washington makes it a crime to intercept or record a private telephone call, in-person conversation, or electronic communication unless all parties to the communication consent. See Wash. Rev. Code Β§ 9.73.030(1).

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[–]Zabaoth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Crazy world. She could have destroyed him in court. They cannot make an audio and video recording of you behind your back. I mean, they can, but it's A) Not vaild evidence. B) A crime.

That's why tv shows cover the brands and faces of people unless they sign a release and all those "real hidden XXX" porn is fake.

If you add that it was sex, and he sent it to third parties, oh god, the most incompetent lawyer would have a field day with him.

Now what kind of insecure idiot gives his fiance a credit card, a car, full access to a house where she doesn't live, and then laughs triumphantly after he gets shafted (which he found out with an elaborate wiring of the house - insecure), after returning to her the things she most likely bought with his money? I mean, dude, you just got her off your tit after she got careless enough to be telling a dude to come to your house to fuck. Do you think affairs start like that? And, no they fucking don't. Get tested. Stop being a paranoid bitch. If you cannot trust her enough to be getting dick somewhere else and you're paying for her expenses, I don't care that her blowjobs give you divine revelations. It's not worth it.

[–]civilizedfrog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Washington law requires the consent of all parties to a private communication in order to record.

Things Washington politicians do to protect themselves lol

[–]justtenofusinhere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Generally, not for the purposes he used. Think about it, would it be legal to hide a camera in your toilet or shower and record guests?

[–]rekabis 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Almost every jurisdiction makes it a significant crime to secretly record conversations you are not a part of (that why most/all CCTV cameras are video only).


What you are talking about is called dual-consent, and it exists in only 12 out of the 50 states in America. The other 38 states and Canada have just single-consent, allowing you to record in full video and audio both inside and outside the home.

The only reason why the vast majority of systems are video only is because it is much cheaper for a company to release one product that is compliant across 100% of all jurisdictions than have two separate products that need to be carefully monitored to ensure that customers in the wrong jurisdiction don’t buy the wrong product (because it could result in a lawsuit).

Plus, security cameras inside the home only become a problem where there is a clear and expected assumption of privacy, such as the washroom or bathroom.

Even bedrooms can have full audio and video, because otherwise tens of millions of parents across America would be instant criminals for using baby monitors.

[–]LordMarkStark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to tell the other party in many places but not all. Which let's face it, it's what he should have done to limit her hamster to her place of work at the least. He could say he did mention it to her I suppose.

But just think of how much cock she rode in that car. She called him from home saying come ride me baby, I bet she was comfortable with this guy while also having zero respect for whatever the relationship had descended to.

He drove it twice since then, there's probably cum on the seat

[–]account_rp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why didn't she have any of her own money since she had a job?

[–]suxxos -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's what bothered me... did he lay his hands on that too?

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's safe to live with any woman.

[–]kellykebab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was clearly better than just ghosting. Guy made the right call.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is amazing! I was smiling all the way! No petty revenge, no pointless argueing. He dealt with it like a man. Action speaks louder than words. Argueing with a woman is just a waste of time.

[–]8380atgmaildotcom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also believe everything from the internet.

I'm unsure what value this has or how this is redpill other than if you need some cathartic release from anger.

[–]fryhldrew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeeeeeaaaasssssss!!!!!!!! Party time!!!!! Bring your buddies, today's beer Thursday

[–]AriesAsF 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And that sir, is how its done. Bravo!! Wish all were a smart and well prepped as you. The best part was her total inability to claim squatter's rights, cause none of her shit was there and she had no access to the house. Brilliant. My only advice would be to never let anyone regularly drive a car that's in your name. HUGE potential financial and legal liability.

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha it wasn't my story but I agree

[–]5Imperator_Red 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol 95% upvotes for this obvious fake story with no actual value to the community. What a shithole TRP has become. The average person is a moron, so the more mainstream you go, the more your organization will trend towards imbecility.

[–]FatmanO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This could be all avoided if he wasn't in LTR

[–]javiercer20 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Ohh he felt entitled to that pussy, now trying to have a β€œsweet revenge” will help him be a better man... he thinks he’s teaching that woman a lesson for breaking his heart, nothing more far from the reality than this. Maybe he should teach himself a lesson first.


[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Lol you do know that this isn't authored by any Redpill member right?

[–]javiercer20 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yes I know but still don’t get why you post this. What’s beneficial about another cheating and dumping story?

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No benefit, I got a laugh out of it. Thought I'd share

[–]javiercer20 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everything is to laugh when it comes to women.

[–]MatrixofLe3adership 1 point2 points  (4 children)

he didn't take revenge he took action

[–]javiercer20 2 points3 points  (3 children)

If he wanted to take action he would grab his balls, dump her ass(which he did) and shut up. He would take the blame for not being a strong male figure to his wife what caused her to loose respect for him and cheat on his ass, instead of going to quora and show the world what kind of evil woman he was married to.... that’s called being butthurt.

[–]MatrixofLe3adership 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yeah, writing/dwelling on it afterwards is not smart.

You can be as strong of a male figure as is possible...and they'll still go out and do whatsoever they choose anyway. Which is good, I'm ok with that. I'm not saying you cannot make her want what you want, but taking responsibility for other people's actions is lameβ€”and in my opinion not a healthy way to live.

[–]javiercer20 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

β€œA woman’s actions are the reflection of their man’s” if you’re not sure about controlling your bitch and being the leader then you most likely to fail my friend. That’s why LTRs and marriage should be only for experts.

[–]LordMarkStark -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I agree it's useless. Especially if many guys here are not empowered. Let's not be naive. That weekend she would have ridden that dude's cock again and it would have been great revenge sex for her too. She's no idiot I bet. I hope she did and had a good time to boot.

[–]javiercer20 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

100% agree...

Yeah but that’s not what they want to hear here lol.. Men here praise AWALT when they get a girl who has a bf to suck their dicks at the bar lol... but when talking about stories like this one, all of the sudden they all think the one loosing here is the cheating wife.... LOL COME ON GUYS!

[–]Ascend_Daily_305[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing I can't get over is why do all the dirty shit like you're angry. I mean hindsight....but, the best way to teach her a lesson would have been to legally hook her. Evict her, repo the car, divorce her. That leaves a paper trail that a real man can follow in the internet age. Google her. That's why I agree with laws against revenge porn being hard on men bc it's what women do. Its not right when they do it but its wrong when we do

[–]1v1crown 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You gotta be methodical in these situations. Good for him. If you are married, consult a lawyer first first first.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If you are married, consult a lawyer first first first

Consult a lawyer BEFORE you get married, then don't bother

[–]1v1crown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

haha obviously dont get married in this day and age but if you ARE and shtf like OP story... talk to a lawyer.

[–]banana_apple_pear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if this story is true or not, but suppose it is, then this guy better watch his back. Revenge often leads to revenge from the other party. She could burn the house, hire a murderer, accuse him of rape or of being a pedophile, you name it. Hence I'm not sure if something like this would be the best response to a cheating girlfriend.

[–]FreeBeerandHotWings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spend more money on the toilet paper that wipes your asshole.

[–]whataccent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This totally popped up in my Quora feed as well. Good seeing it again.

[–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who knows how many stories on quora are real and how many aren't. I had to stop going there, it's overrun with stories of infidelity. I don't know when this quora poster will understand that "trust" is not a quality known in the purely animal kingdom. :)

[–]DCMike01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are a true hero. I wish I had a fucking surveillance system.

[–]111Dx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was more of a "how to save your self from a hoe" story.

[–]threadripper_07 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Pretty sure posting quora links is against Reddit rules.

[–]Xexitar -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I wish there was a sub that just had these stories.

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