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[–]5Imperator_Red145 points146 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

I recall, long before I discovered TRP, having this revelation. As a teenager women really are more mature and you can definitely feel it as you go through life.

Sometime near the end of college though, I just had this epiphany when I was talking to some girls I know. Listening to the things they were saying, the way they acted, their interests, I thought, "Wtf are they talking about? They sound like children."

There's some amazing quotes in that article.

”... Women, then, are only children of a larger growth; … A man of sense only trifles with them, plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does with a sprightly forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with serious matters; though he often makes them believe that he does both; which is the thing in the world they are most proud of; for they love mightily to be dabbling in business (which by the way they always spoil); and being justly distrustful that men in general look upon them in a trifling light, they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only seem to do it. ..." -- Lord Chesterfield, Letter to His Son (1748)

Chicks love submitting to powerful men.

She is an empty vessel who seeks to be filled with a strong man's "truths."

Most of our modern laws, and nearly all of the “experts” in the social sciences, have done everything they possibly can to undermine a man’s ability to properly “husband” his wife. The current state of affairs completely upsets the natural hierarchy between man and woman. In the same way that it would be nearly impossible for parents to properly raise children if the government passed a plethora of laws deconstructing parent’s natural roles and restricting them from setting boundaries for children, so it is increasingly difficult for a man to properly fulfill his leadership role that women instinctively seek and need. When children have legal authority over their parents, chaos will ensue, just as in Marriage 2.0 where women hold supremacy over the husbands, the practice of matrimony will only harm and bring resentment to all parties involved, making one ill-advised to seek such an arrangement in life.

If I only had a V I would use it expertly To generate equality That somehow always favours me

Women are children. This was known and accepted as an obvious truth for thousands of years. We will never rid ourselves of upside down clown world until the children are put back where they belong, in a position of subservience. No women in the voting booth. No women in the workplace. No women given platforms by the media to bitch and complain and spew their mindless drivel. Amen.

[–]largepaycheckaddict55 points56 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Currently in my last year of college and am feeling this.

[–]TheRedPillMonkey12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As someone who graduated college a decade ago, this maturity divide only gets bigger.

[–]shaggyctes886 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait to get a job, you have no idea what is to have a neurotic kid as a boss

[–]SalporinRP41 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I was the DD for a night out at the bars because I was on some medication that didn't allow me to drink and I was on the couch at my friend's pregame just watching a game on TV but really just listening in to this group of girls talking.

It was just the most surface-level vapid conversation I've ever heard in my life. And this was between girls who had been friends since middle school. Like holy fuck even alcohol and weed can't make 99% women talk about interesting things.

[–]5Imperator_Red33 points34 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh this 100%. There are smart women and dumb women but I have literally never heard a group of girls have an interesting intellectual conversation. That's not hyperbole. Not even once.

[–]mrheh9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The deepest they go is retarded shit like horoscopes, sensing energy and ghost talk. Whenever I want to just bullshit my way quickly into a girl's pants I'll start making up shit about energy and spirts; Like clockwork they eat it up and next thing I know we're fucking.

[–]1empatheticapathetic5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why is this the case do you think?

I have a hippy friend who likes to pretend to talk about all this mindfulness stuff and she knows a lot. But sprinkled in with it is stuff that seems like complete satire.

Is it a lack of interest, effort, or comprehension?

[–]RedPilledRoaster15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They just haven't evolved to take interest in such things.

Men are the ones who create, discover, and advance.

Therefore they take interest in topics having to do with such.

Women take interest in arbitrary topics because their end goal is to lock down an alpha.

So they talk about things that address their insecurities: what celebrities are wearing/how they look, what Chad did on Sunday, etc.

[–]5Imperator_Red6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They just haven't evolved to take interest in such things.

Exactly. Same reason they aren't funny. Same reason they aren't strong. Same reason they aren't leaders. They don't need these things to be evolutionarily successful. What they are evolved to do is conform to group standards, minimize risk, extract resources, and employ their AF/BB mating strategy.

[–]1SeamusAwl108 points109 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

My epiphany was more like.. Girls mature faster than boys, but stop at 15. Boys mature slower, but keep maturing until 30.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet59 points60 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A man continues to mature long after 30, provided he is disciplined about his efforts.

[–]ChrimsonChin9883 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A woman that is maturing is like a hot spark, intense but short-lived.

A man that is maturing is like a candle, burning gentle but for a much longer period.

[–]RedPilledRoaster6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wrong. A man matures when he chooses to do so

[–]majaka12343 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And is never late.

Or was that wizards?

[–]p3n1x2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

until 30

Please delete this. I guarantee you the forefathers of TRP did NOT stop at 30.

Personally, I still view most 30yr old males as slightly more mature than children.

[–]leew3600 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol you wish. Most men today are just teenagers too thanks to victimhood chic.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

This is a myth. There are just more societal expectations from a man than a woman. Speaking biology, a girl can have substantial value when she’s e.g. 14-15, cause they can produce babies at the age, while boys are still weak and dumb. Speaking of environment, they’re exposed to same experience boys are, they attend same schools, do same homework, etc. It is an experience that forms a person. And a boy who has exposure to outside world, like attending sports section with adults would be more “mature” than a girl who’s only exposure is speaking to her friends and doing homework.

[–]5Imperator_Red7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Given that their optimal breeding age is pretty young compared to males, it makes sense that they would reach their peak maturity faster.

[–]Vinterson12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maturing has a huge societal factor so if we expect more from men they have more maturing to do. Some people have to grow the fuck up when they are young because of their circumstances as well.

Maturity in character is obviously a social construct but that doesn't make it less meaningful.

[–]the99percent10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trust me. Even girls who are exposed to fame and live a rock star lifestyle still act like kids.

They just don't have the mental capacity to mature beyond 18.

[–]farendsofcontrast0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

One word: Estrogen.

The don’t have the same chemical makeup in their brains. Which is why they’re different. And we are different.

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[–]RedPilledRoaster1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maturity happens to men through experience. You choose when to experience, therefore you choose when to mature.

"Maturity" happens to women through biological imperatives.

[–]Irtotallynotrobot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes definitely. That's why I found women so competitive in early career stages, besides the feminism support.

[–]BrosefJones8575 points76 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Is this biology or the pampering and modern feminism heaped onto females. I’ve seen teen girls be given alcohol from adults only for those adults to get charged with providing alcohol because one got sick. The girls tearfully gave statements in court that they were too immature and it was the adult’s fault... only to then go to another liquor fueled party next weekend. All with the parents backing their daughters.

[–]5Imperator_Red40 points41 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'd estimate 75% biology 25% culture. Having a kid probably helps women mature as well, which most no longer do in their 20s.

[–]largepaycheckaddict10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. My mom had me when she was 24. Typical single mom-partied, did drugs, all that shit. I remember her being a pretty responsible mom, getting a degree and a good job etc.

I notice the same happened to some girls I knew in HS when they inevitably got knocked up by some chad. Those mom instincts kicked in and they became more responsible and stopped engaging in nonsense debauchery every weekend.

[–]BrosefJones8513 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’d put it at 60/40. Relatives of mine from the home country are very mature at 15 comparatively to 30 year old females relatives born and raised in the US.

[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

With women, it is just an altered perception. You can't "mold" or "force" biological emotional maturity. Some only give the impression they have a better grip on it. AWALT

AWALT the moment the right person and opportunity appear, more mature my ass.

[–]whittlingman2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The girls tearfully gave statements in court that they were too immature and it was the adult’s fault..

That's called lying. That's not a lack of maturity. They knew how to get out of trouble and it was by not taking responsibility.

[–]BrosefJones853 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

My point was their parents backed them, refusing to take responsibility for your actions leads to immaturity. They are intertwined.

[–]whittlingman2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

A good point then. The parents are facilitating them not maturing past being teenagers. They don't need to because their parents will "take care of it".

[–]BrosefJones851 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yup, and I feel this happens a lot with girls. Whether it be their parents, their teachers, the criminal justice system etc. Men face consequences, women are saved from them.

[–]whittlingman2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When I see men have the right to decline fatherhood of a baby ie no child support, women be severally punished for false rape accusations ie perjury in court, and marriages allow for predetermined non-50/50 asset splits.

I'll finally feel women have achieved taking some responsibility for their actions and feminism achieved its goal off equality.

[–]Ivan_The_Reddish0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What evidence have you seen that the goal of feminism is equality?

[–]whittlingman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Too funny, I just had an argument in another subreddit, when I said feminism today is overreaching and trying to gain superiority over men. Many people argued that "that's not the goal, the goal is equality"

I will be reasonable and say that I get the original original point of feminism was to gain acceptance that women are equal to men. They should have the right to vote and to have jobs.

My point as of today's society is they achieved that, so what's left for radical feminist activists to fight for? More, More rights. Which then those rights come at the cost of men's rights.

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[–]RedPilledGodEmperor11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That sounds horrible. Despite my parents having what seems to be a very strong marriage, it's not worth the risk anymore for men. I'm in my late 20s and already decided that I'm NEVER getting married no matter what.

Actually, only thing that would make me want to get married to a woman is if she had the looks and money of Sara Blakely

[–]alexzang5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or by extension is Sarah Blakley

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It’s nice to see this resurface again. I would also charge that it’s WEAK MEN who cause this develpmental delay in women.

One matures to the extent that life obligates them to, and a society which supplicates itself before all women conceptually creates the same demanding naivete found in most child-emperors. “Bring me my scepter! Bring me my servants! Bring me a two-bedroom home and vacations to exotic locations where I will sit at the hotel pool! I am ordained by God - no, by Goddess!”

Who could expect anything more from someone who lives in a bubble desgined to cater for them, without the obligation of reciprocity in any form of gratitude?

And if ye, mortal, be waist deep in free internet porn or video games, you too are being lulled into a permament childhood by a trans-fat approximation of real pleasures.

[–]anglertaio21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No.. this is inherent to the sex. That's why all the ancients said the same thing.

What weak men do is allow women's lack of reason to unleash itself on themselves and on the world, and teach each other that everything is just fine - instead of restraining them legally, socially, and physically, and not taking their ideas very seriously.

[–]largepaycheckaddict5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This I believe is where Witchery stems from.

[–]mrheh6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

porn

My one god damn major weakness I need to fucking kick.

[–]shaggyctes882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same, It's poison, go lift brother.

[–]Managicall-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

free internet porn or video games, you too are being lulled...

A lot of what you keep saying sounds like abstinence with extra steps. I know guys like you exist because I have bested your kind in video games.

Do you mean TRP is not free internet porn? I'm only here looking for tips to beat these dating simulation games! Real women are too easy to figure out. I'm out here hoping to catch a Unicorn.

[–]Persaeus7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Her money is a shit test , and one that should be nuked from orbit. My response last time I heard this , “no babe it’s all my money, you work for me now” - broken record and ACT accordingly. If she has a problem with it she knows where the door is in the house.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is why my grandpa gives my grandma $20 a month allowance, and one casino visit per year maxed at $200

[–]majaka12344 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah your grandpa just didn't realise that $20 in 1940 has to be adjusted for inflation. Dude was giving her a fortune in his mind.

/s

[–]Managicall5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"It is interesting to note as well how many men claim that it is at around age 27 or 28 that they begin to “figure things out” in regard to women, or at least much more so than they did earlier in life."

Not at all, I was close to knowing more a long while back then gave up because it did not solve anything noteworthy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn that article is good.

It was the biggest eye opener in my life the first time I read it, and every time I read it again as I grow in my red pill understanding its status in my mind as fundamental keeps growing.

I fully believe that one would almost only need to read this and implement its lessons and be done with his learning about intersexual dynamics. It literally IS the red pill.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are children, so treat them like it.

[–]The_Red_Trooper2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That entire website is fuckin gold.

[–]ChrimsonChin9881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to add something to this. TRP says we must become men and leave our teenage years behind. Why? The easiest way to get a woman is by understanding how they think. You can only understand how she thinks (like a teenager) when you're no longer one yourself.

To understand something (a paradigm) you must be able to rise above it (next paradigm). This is why women love a man. They know he is better than them because on one hand, he's able to understand them and communicate on their level but on the other hand he can come back to reality and look further, beyond her paradigm. Something she will never be able to do and therefore admires him.

[–]Chadster1130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow. I actually read this whole article. I usually just skim through. awesome!

[–]kweikum10 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Mobile optimization is beyond basic. Shit 90% of this information is basic. If you can’t figure out mobile optimization or to not put black text on a black background I’m not going to waste my time reading half baked content. My time is too valuable to have to deal with this basic shit.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mobile optimization is beyond basic. Shit 90% of this information is basic. If you can’t figure out mobile optimization or to not put black text on a black background I’m not going to waste my time reading half baked content. My time is too valuable to have to deal with this basic shit.

Mr. Important here is too important to read one of our main sidebar articles because it's from blogspot and not mobile friendly.

I suppose we should all bend over backwards and spoon feed you this info!

Listen up. You are NOT important. You get what you take out of this.

If reading an article is too hard for you, maybe there's something elsewhere more your speed. Like /r/relationship_advice.

One thing's for sure- you millennials think you're so important that you actually make a comment telling people you're not going to read something- next time you decide not to do something, keep it to yourself. Nobody gives a shit about how lazy you are.

[–]magx010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just post the text here this isn't your personal advertising sub.

[–]Swaglord300-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"One cannot be emotional and rational at the same time" -OC

Wtf, I dont first stop being emotional to then be rational. I can defs do both, dont know what he is talking about. This is general shit, not all women are like this its just their capabilities and like all humans they too can surmount their presuppositions, to some degree, if properly trained.

[–]magx011 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with 99% of the post but yes every single second of every single day has an emotion attached. The idea that emotion and reason are separated is incorrect; even the most rational (on the surface) cognitive processes do not occur in an emotional vacuum; there is an emotional context at play.

[–]Swaglord3000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm guessing they meant noticeable emotions that distract you or the lack of the ability to set emotions aside to do the rational thing. But get rid of emotions, nope not possible. Ignore, sure.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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