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[–]PRIDEVIKING 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A big part of this is that we've removed strong male rolemodels from a young age due to societal changes. Media is also leading the emasculination of men via their portrayal of heterosexual sexual relations.

[–]residentassociate 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

red pill logic: "women have no clue what they're doing ... unless it's actively conspiring against men." let's keep the discussion civil

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with how the author presents the situation, but here's my take on the idea:

Women can consciously behave one way as a group but subconsciously desire something entirely else. In the case of the beta male, you could posit that feminism promotes this class of men through creep shaming, sexual harassment, "rape culture", among other things. It gives off the strong impression that women are attracted to a sensitive guy, a Nice Guy, a White Knight type character. They aren't and never will be - you might as well be gay if that's your sexual strategy.

In reality, they're turned on by a man who aggressively pursues what he wants, who isn't afraid to approach women, who lives for himself and has his own beliefs. No supplication or romantic type stuff for the most part. The guys who make a move, take action, flirt, and escalate. A man who can accept a rejection to the chin and move on, instead of lingering around wondering if she's sending "signals".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women can consciously behave one way as a group but subconsciously desire something entirely else.

Yup, this is exactly what they do, and the do it to protect themselves from what they perceive (correctly) would result in a massive backlash. Imagine what would happen if they all just laid it on the table: "Yeah, I want a guy that makes 6 figures a year, has a 9 inch cock, is at least 6'3'' with the body of an professional athlete who never thinks about having sex with other women." They would get loled into straight into their places. So they use pluralistic ignorance and cognitive dissonance as tools to hide their true intentions. They use these tools to both hide their intentions and to validate their actions. From a redpill perspective it's just so incredibly laughable, but your average clueless beta male actually buys into the bullshit, because as men, we value honesty and naturally think that others value it as well.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree with this incredibly dishonest approach women take, but I wouldn't expect the female population to change anytime soon. This is the entire reason they needed to be controlled in order to create a functioning society that can prosper.

[–]pk_atheist1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the entire reason they needed to be controlled in order to create a functioning society that can prosper.

This right here. And the worst part? Any outsider looking in will say, holy shit, these guys want to oppress women and are misogynistic!

Then they'll go back to their failed marriage.

Which used to be a system to control female hypergamy.

Before feminism ruined it.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Society is going to relive this lesson the hard way. I don't think we'll be returning to controlling hypergamy, though. Cat's out of the bag on that one. Rollo is right: I'm getting the impression that women would indeed rather share a successful man than stick with a loser this case. I'm starting to see it in my own life already in two women who will see other guys simply because they're around, but are hypergamously driven to be loyal to me regardless of their status.

It's sort of crazy and I initially felt bad about it, but I no longer do. It just seems to be their nature and I'd rather exploit it when it suits me instead of being steamrolled by fairy tale ideals.

Edit: The kicker? One of them pretty much spouts feminist propaganda but still would rather fuck me, the guy who speaks entirely against her nonsense, than her current boyfriend.

[–]r_rships_account 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for those links. Very interesting.

[–]barbadosslim 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't make any sense though

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's still hope. They just need the red pill, and a lot of determination.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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