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There exists the idea of dual mating strategy with women, aka women having sex/relationships for 2 reasons. Which is:

  1. an attractive man for (hot) sex and/or fun (Looks);
  2. an good provider man for resources, protection, safety, security (Money and Status).

Imo, it's not necesairily dualistic. And women would prefer to find it in 1 man, both great looks and great provider. But due to that being rare, they have to and do find it in different men. Hence people thinking that women can't make up their mind.

I saw this video on Youtube. An interview of Russian women. And this dual mating strategy seemed very present and obvious there. Hence I wanted to share it.
Since in Russia resources, protection, safety, security are much more important to have (due to more scarcitity and violence there then in the West). Women from Russia value the provider part more.

Video (please ignore the annoying interviewer constantly expressing his opinions based on the western world situation and spiritual nonsense concepts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWHedf01JEQ

Also funny to see, how this woman says, or thinks, that Western men like Russian women for their feminity.
Imo, it's mostly that an normie or nor so attractive Western man can date at or above his looksmatch with "provider game". Hence Western men Russian women for that reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWHedf01JEQ&t=570

I think, this may be a possible temporairy cope, for men whom aren't attractive and are incel in the Western world. Play the provider game in countries where provider skills are found important by women; pay/spend/give alot of money basically. And you may have a woman by your side for some time and have sex, that is better or equally looking then you. You'll have spend alot probably, but it's an temporairy option.


[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

If you bring a Russian woman to your first-world country, as soon as she gets secured citizenship / residency / green card, she will transform into AFBB. Enjoy your 1-2 years as an alpha provider because it will not last.

[–]WhoopiCushionberg0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

AFBB?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks

[–]WhoopiCushionberg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ah of course. ty

[–]eduardkoopman[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks

Imo, it mean this.

"Alpha fucks"; a woman having sex/relationship with man that she finds attractive based on his looks/appearance and to mayeb some extend personaliy.

"Beta bucks"; a woman having sex/relationship with man that she doesn't find attractive in appearance but does find appealing in resources, and thus which is based on his wealth, earnings, money, social status, fame, providings and security skills.

So both type of men have sex. And in some scases, but not often, a man may have both or all. But often a man has neither, or "just" one of the 2.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beta bucks doesn’t get enjoyable sex. Beta bucks gets a dead bedroom and duty sex at the bare minimum

[–]FatKnob0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Enjoy your 1-2 years as an alpha provider because it will not last.

Don't you mean as a betabux provider?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No. Because women in 3rd world countries see safety as alpha. Once they are safe, they go back to standard AFBB behaviour.

[–]Carkudo3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Russia is not so backwards that those women would see that safety as particularly attractive, unless I guess you go for real shitholes like Chechnya which are actually dangerous to live in. I know quite a few Russian women who have married foreigners. Those of them who married men they weren't attracted to have been pretty obvious about it from the start.

[–]eduardkoopman[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

is not so backwards that those women would see that safety as particularly attractive

I think I have to agree.
As in:
* "resources and safety" are attractive on itself, when you live in place where survival and safety isn't easy (like Russia). But is doesn't make the man attractive on himself, it's just an attactive quality that a well off man (aka great provider) has.
* "good looks attractive" is tightly linked to that man. Hence that man is attractive.
A man showing great proivider capability, is only attractive as long as providings/resources are needed by women.
Wheras an attractive looking man, is always attractive wether she need providings or not; but she may choice to be with a provider long term if she really needs or wants rpovider/resources and mr. good looking doesn't or can't provide that.

[–]Carkudo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

place where survival and safety isn't easy (like Russia)

I just gotta note that in most parts of Russia survival is still easy - streets are not violent and the social safety net is still functioning in most places. Stability and safety can be found in Russia - the women are not escaping destitution and death, they're escaping a depressing lifestyle inside a shitty culture.

she may choice to be with a provider long term if she really needs or wants rpovider/resources and mr. good looking doesn't or can't provide that.

Yeah, I would say that a Russian woman, given the choice, would more likely stay with a provider husband, resent him and make their married life miserable than ever dump him for hot chad. In Russia both provider marriages and resentment towards unattractive provider husbands is seen as normal and healthy, and while the liberal 2000s saw somewhat of a rise in relationship and marriages based on love, nowadays society has again taken a sharp turn towards traditionalism and loveless marriages are being promoted again.

[–]eduardkoopman[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

as soon as she gets secured citizenship / residency / green card, she will transform into AFBB.

Then the provider-side is taken care of by the society, through welfare and/or easy work opportunities. So she doesn't need a man anymore for provider resources. Also it's more safe in the Western world, so also don't need a man for protection.

Enjoy your 1-2 years as an alpha provider because it will not last.

That's the case, defenately. Although I wouldn't consider such a man playing the "hot/sex attractive (or Alpha) man" game to get sex/companionship. But playing the, being a good "provider man" game to get sex/companionship in exchange for that. As long as she is, feels so, or choices to be dependant on providings from a man she will likely stay with him. When that is no longer the case, it's useless for her to be with a man that she doesn't find attractive/hot/sexy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s no way an attractive woman will stay with a man who isn’t her looks match when safety is acquired

[–]Carkudo8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Am Russian, can confirm. The Russian diaspora in Japan consists mostly of such women who are even colloquially referred to as "Russian wives" inside the diaspora, because they all fit into a single stereotype so nicely - they marry for a ticket to a first world country and providership, but always despise their husbands, seek to have children with Russian men (because they stereotype all Japanese men as similar to their husband), encourage their daughters to do the same and are just generally insufferable cunts, and often criminals too.

[–]FatKnob2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing new.

It's being going on in Asian countries (and probably all the other low tier countries) for quite sometime.

[–]look_in_the_mirror1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What can we learn from this?

So ugly guys need to play the provider or have to be handsome. So either way, there will be always someone else. Who is richer or better looking.

Love does not exist. It is about priviliges.

[–]eduardkoopman[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So ugly guys need to play the provider

Yep, if you want to get relationships and/or sex. But this will nowadays only work in poor countries, since in the rich/Westeren world women can have providings easily through welfare, work, etc..

Being and playing the provider game as a man, is expensive. So if a man wants to go that route, he better work his ass of and find a way to get rich.

or have to be handsome

Yes, you should be able to get relationships and/or sex anywhere then, also in the Western world (probably even more so in the Western world, seen women find this most important as well in the West)

there will be always someone else. Who is richer or better looking.

Yes. And one may be dumped because of that. Relationships are very temporairy, most so nowadays in the West. That's what someone has to accept, if one wants to go out to have relationships, sex, dates.
Life long relationships, mostly only happen and have happened due to external reasons such as: society pressure, family involvement, religion, etc..

Likewise for women, thay also run into the thing, that there is always someone better looking then them, or kinkier then them.

[–]look_in_the_mirror0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is true that it is the same for women, too. But I see a difference. Female attractiveness is linked to youth, so women are not scared of better looking women, they are scared to be replaced by younger women.

So the rules are clear, women go for the guy with the best of all of them (body, money) until they find someone new who is even better and that cycle continues.

Men go for the most attractive until she is no more and then search for a women who is still attractive (young) and since they are older they have money to attract the women in my earlier example.

In the process ugly women don't find anyone and so do the poor und ugly men.

I need to reflect on these information.

[–]Altmark221 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Good chance of getting cucked/divorce raped or even murdered if you try to run betabux game on these cunning materialist east-slavic women. Many such cases!

[–]eduardkoopman[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good chance of getting cucked/divorce raped

Yes, and that is the case with most long term relationships/marriages; also in the West.

[–]Altmark220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, but these russian/ukrainian girls seem to be on another level of ruthlessness. Probably best to limit your visits to sex tourism, maybe run religion game and convert to Orthodox Christianity and get a "trad" girl if you're desperate enough, probably won't make much of a difference in potential outcome though.

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