Why do women lie about not liking a fit man?

_Last_Man_Standing_ · 2019-05-14T14:25:01+00:00

dad bod guys are easier to manipulate and extract resources from so for "long term" relationships they are better...
when she says: "I want dad bod" what she is saying is "I want someone I can control"...
when she says: "That's too much muscle" what she is saying is "I don't think I'm hot enough to manipulate him"...

but when they get drunk and they see "ripped prime alpha genes"... pussy gets wet...

rpsheepdog · 2019-05-14T15:01:31+00:00

It's work to keep up physically with a guy who is in shape. Most women who are "in shape" are so because they have decent genetics, most guys who are fit/jacked had to acheive it through some sort of work and they know the work associated with it.

It would require constant mate guarding on her behalf to keep him.

relationship_padawan · 2019-05-14T15:09:23+00:00

Easy answer is lower competition and complacency.

Women who have the commitment do not want to lose their male. A slightly ‘dad bod’ man will have a lower SMV so he is less likely to be attractive to potential females. She likes the feeling of security that that provides her.

Women are also lazy and don’t want to have to hold the standards they have to keep their SMV high as when they are on the open market. They think, albeit on a subconscious level, ‘I have catch of a man on lock down, he’s a little pudgy but I like that dad bod so I can also let myself go a little.’ Even though deep down she gets the tingles from Alpha Chad big guns over there, she may not be willing to put in the effort to keep someone so fit as sexy because of her lazy complacent lifestyle.

[deleted] · 2019-05-14T16:10:51+00:00

Because women communicate covertly. Saying "I like guys with big muscles" in public is asking for a world of pain from beta guys and other women calling her a shallow whore, or atleast in her mind what is a world of pain, so she learns to avoid it. Covert communication. Actions not words.

boy_named_su · 2019-05-14T16:07:41+00:00

opens the door for more beta orbiters. "oh, i like smart funny guys", which she could give two fucks about, makes smart funny guys orbit her cuz they think they have a chance. Now she has access to the resources of smart guys, and gets free entertainment
creates a liability for her. If lover is in shape, then she'll feel anxious if she's not in shape

MattyAnon · 2019-05-14T16:46:51+00:00

Why do women lie about not liking a fit man?

Unfit men have resources.

Blubbery Billy Beta wants to pretend that she's an angel who loves him for "what's inside". Then he gives her money, support, love and marriage.

He wouldn't do this if he knew she found his blubber disgusting and preferred to fuck sexy fit attractive men.

Women maintain this whole lie to secure their resources and provisioning. At some level she knows Chad won't commit, so she needs a solid backup plan. It's vital that Billy feels happy committing to her and that she "loves" him for what is "inside".

friggandfrayed · 2019-05-14T16:56:22+00:00

Women are afraid of men who are confident because they cannot be manipulated into super cucks. Confident men, with self-license, can walk away at the first sign of disrespect. They cannot be walked all over.

Also women are uncomfortable by men who look better than them. It makes them feel less powerful.

[deleted] · 2019-05-14T16:13:26+00:00

Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do. It sounds like a cliche but it's the closest you get to understanding their motivations.

Words hold little value to them. They do not think before they talk because they are driven by emotions. Which is why they are so fickel.

123undeuxtrois123 · 2019-05-14T16:39:14+00:00

Because they are not open about their sexuality and telling that they like men with big muscles would show their sexuality.

OracleofFl · 2019-05-14T15:33:43+00:00

They don't want to come across as being superficial and attracted to looks. Since one of the cornerstone principles of TRP is not to respond to what women say, but respond to what they do, this is the perfect example.

iambecomechad1 · 2019-05-14T16:59:02+00:00

One of the pillars of Red Pill is don’t ask women for dating advice.

Another is watch what they do, not what they say.

You are pissing in the wind by asking questions.

Jcorb · 2019-05-14T16:13:36+00:00

I don't think it's born from any malicious intent, so much as a lot of women are sort of in denial (something our society does, to both men and women). They think "being attracted primarily to a guy's physical appearance" equated to "being slutty", and they don't see themselves that way. In reality, though, it's just a natural instinct, the same way us guys are also drawn primarily to a woman's physical appearance.

When you're drunk, "the real you" comes out, because you let go of most of your inhibitions. That's why drunk women seemingly lose their minds around super fit dudes; essentially the same effect as a normally mild-mannered guy getting drunk and then being a little too handsy with women.

I think women are lying as much to themselves, as anybody else, when it comes to "what they're attracted to". They might see themselves as "a good girl, who cares about what's on the inside, who isn't shallow, etc". Being drunk just kind of dispels the illusion.

gsp9511 · 2019-05-14T16:42:33+00:00

Why are you asking those questions to them and even showing them pictures of ripped guys?

dj1041 · 2019-05-14T16:11:26+00:00

I think it’s more instinct than anything. I think women men are interested in guys who are relatively in shape and have a gym routine. There’s a lot of guys who are skinny with definition and I don’t think they have problems getting women.

[deleted] · 2019-05-14T16:28:16+00:00

consciously they have ulterior motives like posters have mentioned before. a dad bod bitch is malleable, not prone to being stolen, and easy to control. however, since women are slaves to their tingles, *unconsciously* they will surrender and permit themselves to be taken by some jacked square jaw due to said tingles.

divine_pizza · 2019-05-14T16:48:45+00:00

I believe it stems from females wanting to be the better looking one in the potential relationship and their insecurity that a fit guy cannot be controlled by them.

my crazy, hot ex would tell me she wanted me to gain fat and stop working out because I made her look like the less attractive one in the relationship.

zxcvb7809 · 2019-05-14T17:10:45+00:00

Fat dudes have less options than in shape dudes so they make better providers so women are attracted to them for that.

Dudes that are in shape are the ones that get the women in their heat. It is a much safer bet for a woman to date/marry a fat man, and bang an attractive one on the side.

It is actually exceptionally logical. It is the same as finding an entry level job when you have no skills, to fund the education you need to get skills to get a higher paying job.

[deleted] · 2019-05-14T19:57:00+00:00

Virtue signaling. They do not want to appear as shallow even though women are as shallow if not more than men.

Metalgear222 · 2019-05-14T19:56:05+00:00

Women understand that the most important factor determining their value is their youthfulness/looks. Second is their reputation. They will guard their reputation BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

See: false rape accusations and fighting to defend a lie to the very end

Stupyyy · 2019-05-14T16:03:42+00:00

Insecurities.

_Icarus_Reborn_ · 2019-05-14T16:55:20+00:00

This should be TRP 101 to be honest.

Don't listen to what they have to say, watch what they do.

WayneNolting · 2019-05-14T17:54:52+00:00

I don't know, why do guys lie about not liking nice tits and asses to females?

Throwaway-242424 · 2019-05-15T00:00:22+00:00

It's usually one or a combination of:

a) Women have a terribly limited understanding of the male physique (understandable since most women don't need to do much to look good naked other than not be obese), and they think that "fit dude who works out a lot" is a guy who looks ready to step on stage at the Olympia, while "average dude who doesn't really work out that much and has a bit of a dadbod" looks like a pro rugby player.

b) Sour grapes. They don't think they can get and/or hold down a fit, high-SMV guy, and as such they say they don't find them attractive. Like most dudes who say they don't like model-tier girls because they "look high maintenance" or some similar cope.

c) Virtue-signalling. They worry that openly thirsting after fit men makes them look slutty.

thisisnotme__-- · 2019-05-15T02:14:13+00:00

This could very well be an unpopular answer, but here goes nothing:

Most people—I would say everyone, but let's not be absolutist—have no idea what will make them happy. They have no idea what they unconsciously and viscerally respond to. This includes men as well as women. And, yes, I include myself in this.

TopofToronto · 2019-05-14T17:04:25+00:00

WHY lie when it's so obvious?

To lie to their female friends so they appear to be superior to the others and to have better taste or more needs than just a fit / muscular body.

IE Princess and the Pea fairy tale -- Princess could not get to sleep because there was a tiny pea sized lump in her mattress.

In this case, Princess could not get turned on, unless man had a doctorate in English Literature and saved children in 3rd world countries and was an astronaut on the week ends.

Being turned on by a man's muscles is just so common and gauche !!!

Second reason to lie is, if the did not then it gives you permission to just like / get turned on by a fit woman / good ass and tits and to judge women that way.

One. Women and men for that matter have insecurities about their bodies attractiveness.
Two. You can't fake -- or fake very far, physical fitness and nice ass and tits

Comes back to my answer as to why Rich older men have young women an their arms but older women don't.

You can fake a smile, looks of sexual attraction and even the moaning of an orgasm. But you can't fake an erection.

hot_soup19 · 2019-05-14T22:15:49+00:00

They like to pretend they're in control

They don't want everyone to know what a whore they are.

Pro tip, any unsolicited 'i don't like' means 'it has power over me'

Rejection is when they ignore you or whisper how creepy you are too their friends

throwawayycheyeah · 2019-05-14T22:57:43+00:00

Because orbiters are 95% of the time fatties

King-Manlet · 2019-05-15T06:29:38+00:00

I think it’s more down to them not knowing what they like. They don’t necessarily like big muscles but they can see that guy over there with big muscles who’s nice and toned looks pretty fuckin’ good. It’s like having a thick neck makes you look more attractive but you’d never say I’m attracted to you because of your neck, it just fits into place.

WIA20XX · 2019-05-15T13:16:38+00:00

Objective truth means nothing to them, unless they can get advantage.

Like all of her friends are gorgeous is another universal lie.

ChadTheWaiter100 · 2019-05-14T17:28:34+00:00

I remember a long while back I had a good fuck piece. She had a black personal trainer that tried to have sex with her. He was older (30s and steroid big). She pointed him out to me and told me the story. She requested that the gym gives her a different trainer after that. And here I was- handsome, in good shape at the time (all advanced lifts, maybe a few elite lifts- in proportion to my weight 5’9, 180, 14% body fat) but not in steroid shape and she chose me over him. Well she chose me over a lot of men. And a lot of women choose me. BUT I am not in top notch shape.

So I don’t think they care about physique THAT much. To some extent yes. But they don’t view a mans body the way we view a woman’s body.

[deleted] · 2019-05-14T17:46:33+00:00

90% lack of confidence 10% different lifestyle interest.

Generally speaking, lifting produces a specific type of human being which is different in many ways. Disciplined and clean cut though not always, but still... Some women aren't into it. Most of them are into the right kind of guy, which they don't themselves comprehend can come in so many forms, but they have these ideas... That's just how life is, you don't know what you want till it's right in your face if someone told you that you wanted something else, shouldn't want specific things etc...

Guthix4Days · 2019-05-14T17:46:47+00:00

Because when sober, women understand the whole social dynamic behind this issue - they want to appear generous, charitable and empathetic - a "Princess Peach" who constantly drums on about how people should be loved "for who they are" (a lie) and that "only jerks care about muscles" (another lie).

However, when under the influence, their feeble facade shatters, the veneer is torn away to reveal their most primal, sexual desires. They cast aside their retinue of orbiters and pursue the "jerk" muscle man with alarming voracity, and display noted aggression if turned down.

It's all an act that they have to maintain to avoid being branded a "man-eater" or a "slut" or a "cold-hearted whore" etc etc.

SalporinRP · 2019-05-14T19:00:09+00:00

Same reason married woman will try to make a man do everything they want. The "Happy Wife Happy Life" idiot crowd then gives in to every demand that their wife wants. Then ironically once they submit the wife loses romantic interest.

Like others have said they want control. A ripped 6'2 adonis with an 8 pack and game can go out and fuck tons of other hot women. A dad-bod bf is less likely too have that opportunity. It's short term irrational emotional thinking though because once the guy gets a dad-bod then sexual interest will wane.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2019-05-14T20:20:37+00:00

.... RIGHT NOW.

Whenever a woman says she feels X ,wants Y, or doesnt like Z, always add this tagline.

SAddy97 · 2019-05-14T21:19:07+00:00

Im assuming they want to keep all there options open so they have the option to go after rich guys without it being as obvious that there just in it for the money.

Aymane221 · 2019-05-14T22:13:35+00:00

So be jacked or ripped? Can anyone confirm which has worked before for them with women? Say 7 percent bf vs 12 Percent body fat?

BlackCoffee88 · 2019-05-14T23:31:19+00:00

Women fear social ostracization. Because of this, they never speak of anything unflattering to themselves. Whatever they say is whatever idealized version they want to be. It's all bullshit lies and flattery. As a red pill man, just be aware of this, but do not become bitter.

Spizmack · 2019-05-15T01:04:57+00:00

It’s ASD as well. Saying they’re not into “vain” things allows them to convince themselves and other girls that they’re deeper than they are.

uptimex · 2019-05-15T11:04:04+00:00

Once I saw a documentary about deep-sea octopuses. So when a male couldn't reach the female, he pretended he is a female and passed through another masculine male, which was bigger and stronger than him. So the masculine one thought he had two females, but he was wrong, our main character had sex with the female and went away like nothing happened.

So the narrator explained that female chooses the following: either the strongest male or the smartest male (smartest in terms of getting or creating resources, not just theoretically smart with zero clues of priorities).

furcryingoutloud · 2019-05-14T21:48:21+00:00

Had an ex wife that used to say the same thing. I showed her a picture of Arnold on a normal day, she said, yeah, that I like, I said, you just told me you liked Arnold. Unbelievable idiot if you believe anything that comes out of their mouth. Ahem, generally of course, NAWALT, LOL.

SirWrangsAlot · 2019-05-14T23:07:51+00:00

Cause they're all fat now.

XT3M3 · 2019-05-14T23:24:42+00:00

a women appearing shallow opens her up to be hated. this is what they hate. they need people to like them

Aymane221 · 2019-05-14T23:50:15+00:00

True I’ll look into it

WiredT · 2019-05-15T02:22:30+00:00

Wait we still give a fuck about women in terms about what we did to be healthy and look good? 🤔

ogkushinjapan · 2019-05-15T03:10:34+00:00

Just a shit test to filter out weak men. Like how buzzfeed how to treat women videos further separate the betas and alphas.

kayfab · 2019-05-15T05:44:07+00:00

It all comes down to listen to what they say and do that other thing.

Women love muscle believe me i am 46, and been training for a very long time. What hit me is that i am bigger then ever now and i still get tones of attention.

Never forget that women are emotional creature, some are very intimidated by fit men.....

send_it_for_the_boys · 2019-05-15T06:56:24+00:00

In my tinder profile I have “swipe left if you’re into dad bods, you’ll be disappointed” and I can’t tell you how many girls I’ve matched with that had in their bio some shit like “dadbods😍😍”

Nighthawkdragon8 · 2019-05-14T21:02:39+00:00

Women experience attraction emotionally since they are sexually receptive, not aggressive. So they actually do not care if a man is fit or not, since being fit doesn’t make a women feel emotions.