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This post is trite by my standards, but legit by the standards of the universe.

My mother lies dying, my father sleeps, defeated, perhaps worse than death...

Know this: Your body is your temple. Your temple is where you pray. Your prayer helps you endure. Your endurance makes you stronger. You strength helps you overcome.

Overcoming adversity brings it all full circle.

While it may seem trite, it is real.

I always write what is real - trite or not.

I have the body of a Greek God. Seriously. I've worked so, so hard for it.

So, so hard for it.

Nothing gives me more satisfaction, as long as I recognize that there's more to life than a body.

When I was told "you will not live" I said "I will live and reach the peak of life."

I did.

When I was told "you cannot beat this" I said "I will beat this and prevail."

And I did.

When I was told "you will not recover" I said "I will recover and reach even higher levels."

And I did.

When I learned, through MRP - through Stoney and Steele, and Bogey, and BPP, and SK, and others - that I was winning only one war and losing another - I fortified my defenses - and moreso, I fortified my offenses - and I went on the attack.

When I was a "businessman" who'd reached lofty heights, I became a "laborer" who would round out my life.

When I was a "thinker" who thought high and mighty I reinforced that same "laborer" because I'd forgotten how important his contribution was.

I posted last week that my mother is dying - hardcore like the revenant - my father is succumbing.

I am here. I am making choices. I am enduring hell… after a special kind of hell I'd already endured… jesus, don't I get a break (?)…

No, fucker, I don't… and nor do you.. and you better get your weak-ass used to it.

They all turn to me. Why? Because they can.

Because I am strong.

Because I am solid.

Because I will not waiver.

Because life goes on... cruel and uncaring, sometimes, yes... but it's true...

... and I stand sturdy.

... and so should you.

… You can be me. And be strong. Even if you don't know it. You can.

Nothing in weeks has given me more personal satisfaction than coming home from the ICU, consoling my father, and flexing in the mirror. Gay, sure, I can see how'd you'd think that.

... But adjust your point of reference... and see what that means... and understand... and believe...

... What I see in the mirror is a facsimile of what I give back...

... They count on me to be the rock...

... I see the rock....

... I am the rock.


[–]joest7318 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Life can be taken away from us at any moment. Just three weeks ago my mother was crushed by her above ground swimming pool. It collapsed and swung her 15 feet onto a concrete patio. I never thought I would be watching her pass after removing life support.

Three weeks later I'm committed to living every moment like it could be the last. We'll see how long I can maintain that attitude.

[–]MyInternIsHighLikeMe6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry brother. Death shapes us. Trust its hand.

[–]joest732 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has indeed. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

No, fucker, I don't… and nor do you.. And you better get your weak-ass used to it.

I hate red pill because of this awful truth. I used to be able to complain to my wife like a faggot and let off steam. I used to talk to my father, but he died recently. I used to talk to my friends but found out they aren't really able to help me in this journey. At 33, like Jesus I entered into a new fucked up role. I became a man who was no longer willing to vent his frustrations or depend on others for his emotional and mental stability. I stopped bitching that life was hard and just decided it was part of life. I hate this shit, but it's real. I have never suffered as you have and I am a weak bitch in comparison but I have endured some shit recently.

My mother got cancer 3 years ago and I fell apart. I drank too much, slept too much and worked too much. I couldn't be a dad and I couldn't deal with my marriage. It really set me back but she made it through. If she got cancer again I would be able to endure it, but at the time I was a weak bitch looking for excuses. Now I know the hard truth of what it means to be a man and essentially be alone because your subordinates can't support you. You have to be their rock, and you don't get one. When you become everyones daddy and don't have a daddy shit gets harder.

I hope to become half the man you are, fuck. Appreciate you sharing this with us.

[–]hack3geMRP APPROVED22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Of all the red pill truths - the fact that you as a man are truly alone in this world was perhaps the hardest to swallow. But over time you learn that it is actually the most liberating of all of them and it means you are truly free to do whatever the fuck you want in this world.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It really hurt, but it helped me overcome my need of people and co-dependency. I was always right on the verge of being able to not need people, but RP pushed me over the edge.

Now I strongly hold to the truth from Reverend Bobby Axelrod: "Babe, everyone in the world besides you, me, and the kids is cannon fodder."

As long as she stays on my team she doesn't have to be cannon fodder either.

I am still dealing with fear and anxiety. I want to call someone to cry and talk about my feelz but when I hear their response, I know they don't give a shit and I am alone anyway.

No one can help me, but me. Fuck.

[–]tspitsatgp1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it’s just a coincidence or larger truths at play but there has been countless lines in Billions which makes me think that one their writers lurks in these parts.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, some RP shit is woven into Billions and many other shows.

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am so glad they didn't make him into some chump bitch for the blond. They did that to Don Draper and Frank Underwood and they were pathetic for it.

Bobby knew himself, knew where it would go, maybe not today, but someday -- so better to just kill it today.

[–]WeightsNCheatDatesGrinding19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It’s almost as if shit was easier before MRP.

But fuck that. We’re men and we have shit to do.

[–]itiswr1ttenMRP APPROVED13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Things WERE easier. They were also objectively worse and worsening.

[–]Giant-__-Otter2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's like Tom Hanks in A League of their Own: It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great.

[–]WeightsNCheatDatesGrinding3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You learn to enjoy the hard- that’s when you win.

[–]SoggyTrainGrinding / Getting It8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You have to be their rock, and you don't get one.

This. At a rough point in my life I had to put my dog down that I raised since a pup.Did it over my lunch hour and went back to work. A few days later I cried, and my wife saw. Now she had cried everyday, but men are not afforded that luxury. I didn't know this at the time. Looking back it hurt our relationship. I now understand that no matter what happens or who I lose, no one will ever see that emotion from me again, ever.

[–]i-am-the-prize8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have some historical reference points when I was in rough patches with my wife, often the year can be correlated to unique memories (e.g.: from a vacation destination or the grade a given kid is in); one other touch-point may be a big life event going on at the time.

Once finding RP, this latter type of touch-point, hit me - when the "life events" were health scares regarding my body (my hardware/chassis and ability to be high functioning) she was her least best.

I don't think it was the only thing 'wrong' at the time, but it's truly odd to look back and correlate some of the worse treatment from 'her' during and after 2 critical illnesses (first 2 times ever hospitalized in my life, both truly: "call your wife to come here you may not be checking out, and do you want a priest" type events) and one time an acute injury that debilitated me, made me a dependent in many ways for months, and reduced my utility and ability to be the family alpha (physically and in some ways mentally due to the chronic acute pain that hurt so bad it took my breath away).

It's 3 for 3 (me in weakened state = her at low point with me) At the time, I just thought she was a selfish and bad caregiver. I recall that early in our married life, when I was doing some pretty extreme motorsports, she would not quite joke: "be careful: if you get crippled I'm dropping you off at your mom's house". I now know she truly wasn't kidding, (she loves what you are before she loves who you are, after all).

I think it (the 3 times I was weakened, twice near mortally) i think it subconsciously stressed her out: to see me weak and useless and a liability in some ways; she reacted with anger, frustration, aloofness, coldness - I couldn't figure it out back then (BP lens = what was I doing wrong?) she was so not the idealized wife during these episodes. I see her freeze when my kids gush blood or break a bone, she's useless. This was different, this was contempt and disgust by my weakness, and withdrawal, emotional and physical and situational - as her response.

Well I now know, she can't love me like I want(ed) to be loved, after all, only a mothers love is unconditional.

I now work to not complain about my day and sound like a bitch. When I've been recently injured from sports, thankfully they've not been physically obvious, so I've kept it to myself these past RP months. I refuse to give her hypergamy ammo to use against me; I am working on being the oak for self and those I choose to be a part of my life. In the back of my mind I've resolved to accept that her love for me is highly conditional; AWALT, so no sense in worrying about it - I will not burn cycles worrying over something I can't control.

[–]SoggyTrainGrinding / Getting It3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah you are so right. I have even told my wife that she fucking hates me when I'm sick. She literally has no sympathy if I'm dying. I figured this out even before coming here and now take whatever drugs I need to get by and and act normal until shit passes. And if I have to go to the dr there is no mention of it, even tho she says it makes her upset if I go to the dr without letting her know.

[–]failberry3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I waited for my wife and daughter to leave for holidays, called the doctor, held my boi in my harms untill he exhaled. Cried like a bitch in front of the vet . The day they were coming back I told my wife he died for natural causes in his sleep. We don't talk about him much. He was the only being worth my unconditional love as I was for him. I did this to avoid all the emotional storm in front of my girls and I did right.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My wife thought there was something wrong with me when my dad died. She expected me to be a faggot and fall apart. So did my friends.

I cried a bunch alone. Never let your subs see you cry. Never show any weakness.

[–]AceMav213 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like we live too comfortably. Never knew a Vietnam Vet who bitched about the war

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Putting yourself first.

That's what the bloops will never understand.

We're assholes, we're selfish, we're narcissistic, we're self adsorbed, yadda, yadda, yadda.

That, however, is the key.

Putting your own oxygen mask on first. Over a year ago I wrote a post with this very sentiment in it...

http://archive.is/NTlrL

If you don't have your own house in order, then you have no business in anyone else's house.

[–]ReddJiveMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Man's life is hero to zero. One minute King. One minute pauper.

Everything only lasts a day.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

100%. And it can change fast.

[–]average_dudereino6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Par for the course as usual, johney. Stay strong brother. No better feeling being the rock when others need that, even though it is fleeting like everything else. That is our burden of performance, or, as i like to think of it, privilege of performance.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's only fleeting if you let it be fleeting.

If you can be the rock, be the rock.

I've been strong, I am strong, I will be strong.

:-)

[–]average_dudereino1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I hear ya, I mean for each challenge/situation. Always be ready to take on the next. Some folks think they were strong for one situation and that carries them through others, but we got to show up every time, resilient. Not to rest on our laurels.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I just now noticed how you said "par for the course usual, johney"... lol... you gave me a smile tonight. Thanks. I'm having a rough week. I'm up for it - yes - but that little note - well, it helps and it's funny.

[–]RPeedEverything is GAY / Dreadful '190 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was going to say you never started by calling someone out.

But I see you're doing it another thread.

All is right again.

(tbf: asset backed debt I would think)

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol.

[–]RP_PO4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking spot on bro. Im struggling with heart and mind lately. I’ve done quite well in the physical world, look great, and put up good numbers. But the mind is where it’s at. My mind is only strong when willing my physical body to do something, and rarely strong when creating my own frame.

I have a long way to go, and you provide a good example of where to aim. Keep owning life and keeping us in MRP honest. Also go fuck yourself

[–]BobbyPeruMRP APPROVED4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Time is an illusion - fact. It does not exist.

Always be the rock in the moment

Upvoted

[–]OneJealousGod3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When I was younger, I used to think the goal was to be the top cat at the scratching post.

Older now, being the scratching post is the goal.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like that.

[–]red-sfpplustells 1000 lb club pussies to fuck off5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As I am sometimes the outlier in these parts (lately) and as some who has/currently suffers from depression, anxiety at times due to non stop kicks to the balls......

Your posts of recent, read to me as a man who has moved past "personal reflection" into tribute writing, and I want to get my final messages out mode. Like these posts are your send off, and/or final messages.

Could be my lame ass projection of my fucked up life.

Either way, hope you are well and weather the storm to your standards.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You had previously written that you are depressed and anxious. What's going on? Is that just cycling from getting off the drugs?

I'm not going anywhere but I agree, my post is kind of gay. It got a PPD sperg all worked up, though, so it can't be all bad.

p.s. This storm is awful. Holy hell I though what I went through was bad. This is fucking horrifying.

[–]iluvsexyfun1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, and reminding us about the power in humility and in strength n

[–]symbologythere1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of the Jordan Peterson line about happiness being a stupid thing to pursue...he suggests a better objective is to be the “strongest person at your father’s funeral”. To be the one others look to for strength when lesser men would lose theirs. This is a goal worth accomplishing. I’m not there yet, sounds like you are. Keep doing what you’re doing brother, and my sincere condolences for what you’re going through.

[–]amrit21chandi1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Is crying really bad? Recently i cried for the 1st time in front of my wife. As she had miscarriage. We both were crying. I even cried alone but when we were talking and thought of our own kid dying. I couldn't hold it. I told her we can cry now as much as we need but never to cry again on this cuz it was meant to be. And man i felt so much lighter. But was it wrong? Should I've just keep on crying alone?

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

2 acceptable times to cry for a man.... birth and death. You had a 2-in-1, which is fucked.

What you don't want to be is weak and incapacitated by it.

When my daughter was born was the only time my wife's seen me shed tears. She brings it up every now and again about how touching and emotional it was.

[–]amrit21chandi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. That's what i said at that moment while i was overwhelmed with emotions that we can cry as much as we want right now but once we're done.. I'm never gonna cry for this again. Now we're planning to try again in near future. I can only imagine how wonderful that moment would've been to carry your first child in your arms. Wish you best of luck man.

[–]matrixtospartanatLVMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes.

But judge yourself, for yourself.

Go to the search engine for this sub, type in ‘crying’ and start reading.

[–]amrit21chandi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for replying. Yeah I'm on it.

[–]pussykiller0091 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s okay to be a crying faggot once in a while Just make sure not to do it twice in a space of 10 years. One is enough

[–]amrit21chandi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha aye aye captain. I usually don't show my emotions. But that moment it just engulfed me when i saw all the other kids at park and my eyes couldn't hold it. Anyways thanks for reminding what we're here for.

[–]tspitsatgp1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There’s a time and a place brother but you have to find what works for you and your relationships. It’s not a wrong or right thing, it’s what is congruent with the way you want to live your life.

[–]amrit21chandi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your answer bro. Even after that i knew it was a weak thing but i was at peace and i know this event is not going to bother me again. So I'm not ashamed of it. I wish i had talked to my younger brother first before my wife but it's alright. Thanks again for being genuine.

[–]jimmyb2071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

… You can be me.

No. I will be me. Always.

[–]Nergaal2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You need a long-term purpose. Apply what you learned from taking care of your body to something long-term.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Holy hell you've missed my point.

My bad.

[–]Nergaal8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, I think I got your point. I was recommending a longer-term goal that carry you past the inevitable death of your mother.

[–]cheesy_macaroni2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, he’s got that in spades

[–]calvanismandhobbes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for the reminder

[–]RoccoPinkmanGrinding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

jesus, don't I get a break (?)…

No, fucker, I don't… and nor do you.. And you better get your weak-ass used to it.

This.

[–]marv86kw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then you, this was meaningful and impactful

[–]JCX_PulseFreedom isn't free0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the most emotional posts I’ve ever seen on RP. It’s emotional, because as everyone else is saying, it’s the truth. It’s a fucking gut punch. It’s “not fair”. But life isn’t fair, and the raw truth is we were born into a life that only a few understand the true depth of burden it comes with. But the men here shoulder that burden with pride. They look at the “unfair” as an advantage, and they bend life over and fuck it.

You fucked life back when it tried to fuck you, and it will try again. But you’re a rock. You might chip here and there but the mountain will stand strong through the elements.

And for everyone else here shouldering their own struggles, you’re better than 99% of the slack jawed faggots who use booze and drugs to avoid their problems. Who bitch and moan and complain. You’re better. Be better. No one else but you can be.

[–]thunderbeyond0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

mens sana in corpore sano

You are an exemplar of the power that comes from a strong mind and a strong body.

[–]rocknrollchuckMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen.

[–]UnbreakableFrameGrinding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome post. Thank you.

[–]stoicstephen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of a post on r/TheRedPill from a year ago that I think was called "Why the Patriarch Doesn't Smile".

I can't find it though, but it crushed what was left of my blue pill mentality.

[–]RobertLeRoyParker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pics bruh. Prove the Greek god shit.

[–]TheChickenFarmer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey Chad. Welcome.

[–]sivarias 1 points [recovered]  (12 children) | Copy Link

This post is trite by my standards, but legit by the standards of the universe.

All I see is an arrogant fuck who needs to preen in front of others. Kill your ego dude. You've learned nothing.

[–]boki3451 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

preen

Can you elaborate a bit more on why you think it's the OP ego? It seems like he is being the anchor of the family in their time of need. I admire that.

[–]sivarias 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

This post is trite by my standards, but legit by the standards of the universe.

He saying his standard are higher then everyone else. Which is fine if true, but unnecessary info and a way to publicly self aggrandize.

I have the body of a Greek God. Seriously. I've worked so, so hard for it.

Irrelevant in context. And a fit body is minimum. Again, no one cares.

You can be me. And be strong.

"Get on my level scrubs"

you better get your weak-ass

"Get on my level scrubs" part 2

If he cut the trash and just talked about being a rock, I could see it. But he's just seeking validation from a bunch of dudes on the internet, and trying to puff up his ego in the process.

Again I repeat. HE HASN'T LEARNED SHIT, AND HE NEEDS TO KILL HIS EGO.

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Which is fine if true, but unnecessary info and a way to publicly self aggrandize.

lol. don't be salty that he's better than you. get better.

if you were better, you wouldn't give two shits what he thinks of you. ask me how I know.

[–]sivarias 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not upset about him. I don't give two shits about him. I'm just calling him on his bullshit.

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you think it's bullshit because you're salty and weak. i don't care that much so i just move on.

let me suggest sticking to your usual circlejerk threads where everyone's opinion is the most important thing in the world.

[–]boki345-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I see your point now.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

In your comment I see naiveté and weakness.

[–]sivarias 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

You turn a post about the success of being a the rock for your family in to a public "look at me I'm awesome" and I'm the weak one?

Cute.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Cute.

Jesus weeps, your interpretation of my post speaks volumes about you, as does your own commentary in response.

Both, however, pale comparatively to your year-old post, where - after stumbling into dead bedrooms - you describe yourself as a morbidly obese, masturbation-addicted loser who married the first woman he fucked.

You managed to achieve such lows, along with erectile dysfunction, by the age of twenty-two.

Around the same time, a year ago, you proclaimed yourself "red pilled" and began posting ever-increasingly to the purple pill debate sub.

You feign disgust with my post when in reality it is your own self-loathing that is disgusting.

Regarding your comments:

This post is trite by my standards, but legit by the standards of the universe.

He saying his standard are higher then everyone else. Which is fine if true, but unnecessary info and a way to publicly self aggrandize.

Hardly. I understand that the universe has no standards, for me, while also understanding that my standards are the only standards that matter, for me. You would do well to understand that yourself.

I have the body of a Greek God. Seriously. I've worked so, so hard for it.

Irrelevant in context. And a fit body is minimum. Again, no one cares.

First, the pedantic manner in which you analyze and dissect my post may serve you well in purple pill debate, where debating a theoretical life is de rigueur, but not so well here, where living a life - your life - and doing so on your terms and with no regrets and no excuses - is the preeminent goal, next to, I suppose, getting laid.

Second, the manner in which you entirely ignore the phrase "I've worked so, so hard for it" is telling.

Third, you are clearly - dude - in no position to be commenting about a "fit body" and its relevance. While you obviously missed its absolute relevance to the post itself - ironically - you are - need I remind you - a recently morbidly obese dude who is now perhaps less than morbidly obese, 80 or 100 pounds lighter - god the stretch marks must be disgusting - and absolutely nowhere near "fit body" and certainly farther away than the big bang, or even the singularity before it, to the body of a "Greek God."

Shame on you. Don’t be delusional.

(I can tell you that the difference between a "Greek God" body and a "fit body" is so profound as to be damn near amazing, a fact that is not rendered invalid simply because you have little to no likelihood of ever experiencing it.)

Another vet resurrected himself just today. I was already light years more fit than you when I saw a post of his years ago, with lots of fine braggadocio, and rather than turn away - 'oh those big arrogant muscle dudes' - I used his post for inspiration. It motivated me. Likely because I was not a self-loathing, obese nerd with low testosterone, erectile-dysfunction, and an addiction to porn and masturbation.

Every uber-fit dude like me knows plenty of people like you: chronically unfit assholes who talk shit about chronically fit dudes, perpetuating some silly self-delusion that criticizing the fit makes the unfit more whole. That line of thinking does not align with MRP thinking, hence why you spend your time debating at purple pill debate, I imagine.

You can be me. And be strong.

"Get on my level scrubs"

Lol. I understand why your self-esteem is so low, but I still find it amusing.

you better get your weak-ass

"Get on my level scrubs" part 2

You are weak. Weaker than many. Likely weaker than most. Perhaps even the most weak of all.

That you aren't aware of that, or perhaps instead view my communicating it to you with such disdain, is a big part of why you are so weak, and likely the greatest predictor that you will still be weak one year from now.

If he cut the trash and just talked about being a rock, I could see it.

Whether you see it or not is irrelevant, though I would urge you to find answers in different places than those places you already seek out answers. You learn much from those with whom you disagree, though I think the learning is lessened if you're compulsively debating.

Regarding the trash talk, MRP itself describes the sub as a locker room of sorts, where trash talking is the norm. Based on your prior morbid obesity I think it's safe to assume that you didn't spend much time in a locker room, hence your ignorance.

Again I repeat. HE HASN'T LEARNED SHIT, AND HE NEEDS TO KILL HIS EGO.

You once read that - that most basic slogan of MRP - and you repeat it now like a baby who has learned to say daddy for the first time. There's no understanding. There's no wisdom. There's no application. There's just a wasted year of wishy-washy debate, less fat on your previously, disgustingly fat body, a presumably still fat and repulsive wife who won't fuck you but will fondle you… all while you are still running in circles… and now running your mouth at me.

I have written about weakness. I have written about battling illness. I have written about battling near-certain-death. I have written about chronic pain. I have written about vomiting, while screaming, while having a steroid-induced psychotic episode, while five chemos coursed through my veins. I have written about shitting myself.

I understand more than you - as a depressed, previously morbidly obese 25-year-old douchebag could hope to understand - largely because you're young and ignorant - prone to not yet understanding just how much you don't understand - seemingly not interested in learning from those who have different perspectives than your own - other than debating with them - Christ - the debating - and stubborn in your self-pitying, pathetic denials of some basic facts of life.

You hugely and completely misunderstand what "he needs to kill his ego" even means.

It does not mean that you curtail your sense of self-worth, that you adjust down your belief in yourself, or that you cling to the crappy propaganda your shitty middle school taught you.

My very, very strong sense of self-worth - like my body - has been earned. It is not arrogance, it's earned.

(And frankly I wouldn't care if it were arrogance. Why believe in yourself less, rather than more?)

And you claim from the top of the mountains, in all caps, that I haven't learned shit.

On the contrary, young man, I have been this hell-hole's most avid student for years. Perhaps that is why I spend the time teaching you the error of your ways.

I'm just calling him on his bullshit.

There's a lot of bullshit here, I would agree.

But I'm not the bull doing the shitting.

p.s. Congratulations on losing 80+ pounds. While it took a tremendous lack of self-control be in a position where you needed to lose 80 pounds - weak and pathetic in and of itself - it's a good start. With that said, you need to adjust up your standards a bit. Perhaps you are shooting for "fit" because that's all you believe you are capable of. Just know that this sub and its many contributors are climbing a much, much higher mountain. You may be happy being a top-50 man, because you were quite literally a bottom-1 man. But I'm not - nor is most anyone else here.

p.p.s. I was a bottom-damn-near-0 man, what with barely surviving in the first place and all that entailed. My willingness to learn, adapt, understand different perspectives - alongside a crazed, unabashed desire to be my best and succeed - is what made me a top-1 man. Should I apologize because I'm not humble? Fuck that. I don't need to be humble.

[–]sivarias 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

All I'm seeing is a lot of mouthwords to defend yourself. Not gonna lie, I stopped reading about 2 paragraphs in because it's all just blather. I do find it curious that you decided to through my post history from years ago in some attempt to valid yourself that I was wrong. Keep doing you man. I honestly don't care.

[–]johneyapocalypseTold Death to Fuck Off - MRP is easy mode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So you're a coward and a quitter too.

Like that boy in the school yard who talked shit, found himself in a fight, and ran as far away as he could.

Only today with all your haughty and supercillious talk.

A masturbation-addicted, morbidly obese coward and quitter.

I'm sure your opinions are highly valued here, lol.

You are the epitome of weakness.

[–]weakandsensitive[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, you want to debate as if your opinion matters? Good to know. Feel free to fuck off.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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