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Training Women (self.askMRP)

submitted by AlexGreenleaf

Richard Cooper just posted this.

https://youtu.be/axGYrManPsw

What is MRP's take on this?

Has the community forgotten about David Shade or Mark Cunningham?

For those who do not know about those guys, they are SGM on steroids.

MC was Ross Jeffries mentor and basically his whole thing is 'training women'. And as for the dog training references, one of the books he recommends is literally a dog training book, Don't Shoot the Dog by Pryor.

Yeah, you can't "train female nature" out of her. But you use her nature (and sexuality) as a tool to train behavior, loyalty etc.

As always, vet and choose carefully. Goes without saying.

I'm no pro at this (MC teaches formal hypnosis which I'm yet to really get a grip on) but I've used many of the methods with great success, both on wife and a plate. I found David Shade and SMG almost simultaneously and that was the major turning point in my marriage.

So, what is the MRP take on this topic?


[–]stoicstephen12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I prefer to train myself.

When you can't control yourself, you want to control the world (or women).

When you can control yourself, you become independent from the wild winds of the world (or women).

I find more pleasure in hitting a PR than in making some girl more submissive to me.

The funny thing is that one of those things makes the other thing easier.

[–]NaAF12246 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. The same goes for dog training, it’s less about forcing the dog into doing what you want and more about building a relationship in which the dog respects your leadership enough to WANT to please you. From that position you can then manipulate the animal’s natural drives and desires into behaviors that you want to see. This all sounds kind of fucked up as I’m saying it but it’s really just about being calm, confident, and someone worthy of respect.

[–]TheRedBull19801 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“When you can't control yourself, you want to control the world (or women).”

I’m framing that and putting it on my wall. That’s some profound shit.

[–]Rifleshoot10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Based on that youtube video, I agree with him, you can't actually train a woman. You are simply changing yourself to a man worthy of submission. Women naturally want to submit to a strong, confident man. There's no training involved there. If women could be trained, you could be a fat and lazy slob with no money and teach her to desire you.

[–]AlexGreenleaf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you familiar with MC?

[–]NaAF12245 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As someone who trains dogs, and without meaning to sound like I think women are analogous to dogs, there are quite a few parallels when it comes to earning respect and demanding behavior from a position of perceived authority. Dogs are obviously a much more simplistic creature and far from being human, but the overarching concepts of dealing with another being that operates in a completely different cognitive frame are really universal.

[–]romeomikewhiskey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also see https://www.amazon.com/What-Shamu-Taught-About-Marriage/dp/0812978080/ref=nodl_

It’s written by a woman who “trained” her husband so obviously not RP but the concept is identical.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think its a bit of semantics. Sure, we can't train out hypergamy but we can train them very similarly to how we train dogs or kids. Reward good behavior, punish bad behavior. Dogs, women and children will be as shitty as you let them be. There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners and there are no bad women just low quality men who can't lead.

[–]AlexGreenleaf1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's some degree of semantics.

That being said RC's comment about being wary of anyone saying or selling this made me wonder if RP/MRP has lost it's connection with the past, with those who came before them. MC, DC, RJ, also guys like SteveP and Hypnotica.

Clearly the connection is there, via SGM, but it's like where that comes from is forgotten. This particular topic is actually just one example of that.

If that is the case it makes me wonder how much RP/MRP are reinventing the wheel and in that process missing important pieces of knowledge and, as perhaps in this case throwing out some babies with the bathwater...

[–]primordialawe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s all tools in the toolbox and can go the route of dogmatic thinking at the same time if you want the community to validate a certain guy’s techniques. MRP is man-focused, those dudes are woman-focused and, depending on the situation any could be the right or wrong tool to pull out. If you get caught up in how to fuck before you can manage yourself, you’re gonna have a bad time. Like the dudes that read SGM out of the gate then wonder where their red pill candy land is. Doesn’t work like that.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I trained your mom.

On squats.

[–]0io-Tsundere2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe you can train women, just like you can train yourself or anything else.

You're not trying to change their nature.

Reward good behavior and punish (or don't reward) bad behavior. It's nothing evil or magical or sinister. Don't tell them that you're doing it.

Where a lot of guys screw up is that they reward bad behavior. Girl gets bored and she wants attention and so she creates drama. If you give her a lot of attention when she creates drama, guess what? She's going to create drama all the time. Don't ignore her when she's being good and then engage her when she's being shitty. Pretty fundamental basis of game. Create some fun and excitement for her when she's fun to be around.

[–]0io-Tsundere1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What's SGM here? Sex god method or something else?

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What the fuck?

why?

I have so much time. I can either spend it reading about how I can learn skills to train someone or I can use the time to better my life.

Effort is a reflection of interest. If you have to change the course and direction of you life just to interest her and play some carnival tricks to get her to stay?

Then you missed the fucking point and you’ll be dead before you do anything with your life.

have a distance and direction for you life. Execute it with violent intent.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like this post.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone else feel like all these youtube "gurus" are just repeating each others shit over and over? Hypergamy, red pill, bla bla for money for clicks?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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