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Full of shit ie shit tests over what you’re into, playing games over text etc.

In the beginning, I have the energy to game the right way, but then I lose interest and think fuck it.

I honestly think I will never know what oneitis is if this shit carries on lol. At least the sex is good, but... is it worth it? Fuck no

I’m — this close to becoming an MGTOW guy if I wasn’t horny all the time


[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed122 points123 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Vetting.

Only allow worthy people into your frame.

[–]MeansToABenz21 points22 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Vetting is key.

[–]imtheoneimmortal13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What if my vetting is very high even for boys and girls?

[–]AdeHMar8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Adjust it.

[–]imtheoneimmortal22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Actually I don’t give a fuck, I got my standards and if there are only 2 people in my life it’s ok

[–]AdeHMar11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I read the opposite lmao, that you accept almost anyone. My bad.

Yeah if you are comfortable with having 2/3 friend and plates is fine IMO, I'm the same.

[–]imtheoneimmortal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy man it happens, recently my standards got even higher cuz some troubles caused by some choices I made I’ve got actually just a friends and girls 0 for now

[–]addwater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. Keep it high.

[–]the_Milkweed3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This seems like a naive answer to the problem at this point. You have to assume that there are a reasonable amount of women to pick from for this to work.

[–]Flintblood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Vetting is great and all, but sometimes people don’t show their true colors until after they pass the early vetting stage. I suppose we have to get better at early detection of social and emotional red flags.

[–]Lefeudufou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Vetting.

How do you vett ?
Youngin asking. Not enough experience to see the long term implication of immediate behavior.

[–]omega_dawg9387 points88 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

if you think that's bad, just wait till you've fucked them a few times... and realize quickly that all that effort was not worth what they have to offer.

always give a woman an honest chance to show you exactly who she is... and decide from there. do NOT make her into some ideal in your head or hope she will change... fuck that.

after she shows her hand, decide.

[–]andyturbo2000 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Three fucks and you know. Oh boy you know.

[–]thatguywhatshisface[S] 15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

2 fucks then the crazy comes out lol

[–]omega_dawg9320 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

the crazy shows up when they realize they've played their Ace card (sex), and they did not get the effect they wanted a/o expected.

iow, the ultimate weapon was supposed to bend or break your will... making you succumb to her greatness. lol.

but when you don't "act right," all hell breaks loose.

[–]andyturbo2000 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Totally agree. The ace card is literally the final defense. Her selection process is tested at the this very point and shown either to be good or garbage. And garbage ducking stings. I feel a RP theory post coming on about the ace card.

[–]omega_dawg931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

most women know that after all the whining, moaning, & bitching about equality, the patriarchy, etc, their only way to really "bother" men is to withhold sex.

even that actress alysa milano (or whatever) reverted to the message of, "don't give him any sex!"

problem is... other women will fuck if they don't and they want/need/like sex just as much as men even tho it's for different reasons and driven by a different purpose.

[–]JRSBOOM1350 points51 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I lose interest right after I cum on her face.

[–]Jabbermouth36 points37 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Post nut clarity is something else. I want to kick most girls out of my apt as soon as I nut.

[–]Buchloe8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

For real, I try to nofap most of the time, but sometimes I gotta jerk it when I realize I'm starting to think about how bad I want to knock a chick up. Afterwards i'm immediately like "fuck alllllll that". Jerking off has its place.

[–]Jabbermouth0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re absolutely right man. Earlier this year I thought about LTRing a girl as I’ve never been in one (I’m only 20). After jerking it a couple times I realized I only wanted an relationship for the steady stream of sex and not because I actually liked the girl or thought she was LTR material.

[–]Buchloe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, you can still go for a steady stream of sex, but you don't have to enter an exclusive contract to get it. Spinning plates keeps you laid, keeps you feeling abundant and selective, and shows you who and what you actually like vs. who is intolerable and just for sex. But still, jerking off keeps busting a nut under your own control, for those times when you're about to let your dick start making life decisions for you

[–]DeborahBinLaden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once you realise LTR = HARD work for a steady stream of sex, and plates = steady stream of sex from minimal work the BP yearning for relationships quickly dissolves

[–]HurricaneHugues4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True af. True af.

[–]Snowaey2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing like post nut clarity bruh

[–]thatguywhatshisface[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tactical cumshots

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

shit tests over what you’re into

Most women will make this powerplay early on. They hate male hobbies that don't benefit them and want to see if they can separate you from them. You just have to maintain frame. They'll tolerate Chad's custom gaming PC or weird college buddy if it means keeping him, but Billy Beta will find himself isolated and bored.

In the beginning, I have the energy to game the right way, but then I lose interest and think fuck it.

Yeah, a lot of us are like this. While most women are energized by having multiple orbiters, exes, and fling partners texting her at once, I always found it exhausting to banter/flirt/game with women I wasn't 100% interested in.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

facts. it feels like a waste of my time to put any sort of genuine effort into a girl who I don't have SOLID chemistry with.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's called being attracted to their "personality." Super shallow.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i know right, imagine actually liking a girls personality. crazy shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol I’ve actually had girls tell me my gaming rig is cool because they “like the pretty lights”.

Honestly if a guy rolls over on that kind of shit I don’t have a lot of respect or sympathy for him.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the literal ONLY way around your problem is to get over your need for sex. that's literally the only way.

I personally only like to make an effort for girls where we have enough chemistry that even if we didn't fuck i still had such a good time with them that I don't mind. And that is a small percentage of women obviously which gets smaller as your standards increase.

so what I'm saying is: 1. get over your need for sex or just suck it up and fuck a 6 once a month as a kind of chore

  1. only put in an effort for girls that you genuinely admire and enjoy the company of cos that way even if you don't fuck them you don't feel "less" for making an effort cos they were worth your time.

[–]razenha8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much every single guy who gets into a LTR

[–]zboo1h7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. It's called having standards for yourself. Is the sex worth it?

[–]drsherbert8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go where you’re celebrated

[–]JebidiahDickweed7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If they make spending time with them unenjoyable, it’s a next from me.

[–]Don_Draper2713 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Shit tests are natural and will happen with every girl. If a plate isn't shit testing you then she is most likely trying her best to trick you into thinking that she's a unicorn. You'll become exclusive with her, move in together or some other commitment agreement and once she's got you in the hook, the shit tests will rain down hard.

It's also ok to not want to deal with that. That's the whole point of spinning plates and gaming. So you have options and can let a plate fall without it bothering you much.

IMO a soft next is a great tool. If she's acting up just simply ignore her for a few days and then hit her back up as if nothing happened. Hopefully she gets the gist and starts behaving. If she continues, just simply hard next.

[–]spry_dye0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

good insight. thank you.

[–]synaesthetic10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like you are hanging out with annoying people. Not all girls are that whack. Find better ones.

[–]pigdestroyer1874 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

After I fuck them, my threshold for shit tests is zero. I don't put up with that at all, I'll move on to the next chase immediately.

[–]teveza1138 points39 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

I hate to break it to you, but her turning into "full of shit, shit tests" is a reflection of YOU, and not these girls.

There is something that you are not working correctly or this wouldn't be happening.

MGTOWs blame everything on women and are forever alone as a result.

I would advise you not to go down that same path.

[–]thetotalpackage731 points32 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Bro..isn't it possible that it's not always the guys fault? Many women are in fact just self-absorbed, vapid twats.

[–]thatguywhatshisface[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. I got a few plates that are genuinely good people, they have their tests and I pass, they have their shit, but in the end it’s fun. Just some women I have this problem that I mention above

[–]academicRedditor6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are totally right. In addition, just like we look at beautiful bodies, the feminine will ALWAYS test you... that is their nature! I think you’ll enjoy Daeda’s “The way of the superior man” (I just finished the audiobook) because explains a lot

[–]umizumiz6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And it's the guys fault for having her around.

[–]Buchloe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's your fault if you entertain it. Some girls you can scare it out of them so they quit the BS and it's all good. Others are narcissistic as fuck and will never change. Drop their ass quick, they are destined to be dog moms.

[–]TeemoSatan6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get involved with a real sociopath or some other psyho and tell me that again pls

[–]thatguywhatshisface[S] 14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

You’re probably right to a certain extent. But why would they still want to hook up with me? Surely they wouldn’t be interested at all if I was messing up badly

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They're trying to help you "get it"

[–]uwotm8915 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

At least until they’ve had enough, or they cross paths with a guy who already gets it.

[–]razenha1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

TRP > MGTOW

[–]DominatePressure3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is not cool they are still our brother.

[–]razenha6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

They give up on their sex life. That's not a healthy way to live.

[–]DominatePressure6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I browse mgtow quite a lot and a lot of them are not "full monk" at all and still have some sex life. But lots have big resentment towards women , I think a fair part are tired divorced men or still maried and soon divorced . I have respect for their choice since there is little chance they fell in a purple fantasy ever again.

[–]DominatePressure7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I always thought mgtow is not about quitting sex life but quitting sentimental sex life which is different.

[–]PayneGreyWolf4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This here is facts.

A female isn't going to be "full of shit" and "shit test" with a guy she perceives as high value/sexually attractive, when the reason they shit test you is to test your value/frame.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the beginning, I have the energy to game the right way, but then I lose interest and think fuck it.

new sex and potential new girl is exciting.... but that drops slightly after fucking her a few times.

then she gets more annoying and poof: interest lost.

seems reasonable to me

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly how half of our fathers felt and look what happened...

[–]beachedseacow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Usually post nut clarity

[–]redpilllogin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Weed makes me horny, hungry and sleepy.

[–]NightTripInsights0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What kind of shit tests are we talkin about? Some never go away and it's normal, you just gotta learn to deal with it or forever spin/break plates

[–]thatguywhatshisface[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The thing with these plates is that I’m the one that breaks them on purpose. I just get sick of their shit lol

[–]NightTripInsights3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that's what I was implying, I too will break plates on purpose or just let them fall via negligence. Usually when I get too bored for it to be worth dealing with said shit tests.

[–]Nighthawkdragon80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly when she gets “full of shit” I get more attracted. I love the chase

[–]mayoayox0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not that red pilled but I'm naturally pretty reserved and practical. I also have been described as 'cold' or 'hard-shelled'.

This post makes sense to me: sometimes I'll notice a girl and we'll start talking and she'll turn out to be completely shallow or really ditsy. My weakness is finding people who like the culture that I do. So i find a bimbo that likes my taste in movies or music and I give her the benefit of the doubt or dont even notice shes kinna stupid.

Then she starts putting it on hard cause she likes me. After she starts trying to impress me I just lose interest completely.

[–]NickPRivers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've texted "You're shady as fuck" when this happens. She gone. Lol

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Full of shit ie shit tests over what you’re into, playing games over text etc.

Yup, I had two girls that played non-stop bullshit games over the course of nearly a decade that ended up ruining it for themselves. Would've even settled for just one of them, but because she had ever so slightly smaller tits than the second one (but nicer ass), she decided to go along with the second ones absurd hamstering and ended up blowing her chances as well. Sad.

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