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I was browsing /r/RedPillWives and looking at things from the other side of the situation. Their sidebar has a book called Fascinating Womanhood, about how to draw a guy into the masculine role. Seems to work. It's funny to see the feminine equivalent of "faggot- lift and STFU", etc. Anybody led here by the wife leading from behind?


[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

Allowed the woman to post her story under her new username, but shutting this shit show down. When it goes to planned cheating, self-harm, history of rape and other things: we're off the rails. This isn't a therapy session.

[–]helaughsinhidden19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My wife used to say stuff like "I kind of wish you'd be a construction worker or a fireman". She didn't know what she was asking. I was in my 20s and in sales, doing well actually, but I had turned in my balls for a bottle of blue pills. Unfortunately, most women are incapable of articulating what they want from you and because they want you to "get it".

IMHO, every shit test is a challenge from a woman to her man to either swallow some red pills or chop his balls off and punish him for being a faggot. Every eye roll when you DEER, cutting you off from sex when you act butt hurt, it's all because she wants you to "man up". My wife used to act bratty AF before date night and I thought she was just trying to sabotage our nights, until I pushed through once. I went into "no fucks given mode" and did what I would have done if I was alone. I skipped the dinner and movie bullshit and took her out for a couple drinks and headed for the river with fishing poles. By this time, we still hadn't spoken all night, but she had was all smiles and was watching me, starting at me intently when I did anything. We got out by my fishing spot at the side of the river, I pulled her in close, pulled her hair until her head rocked back and and kissed her without warning. Boom! Her eyes came alive man! She got what she WANTED, but couldn't ask for.

So yeah, every woman knows about red pill. They read about it in every romance novel, they see it in every uniform. They just won't tell YOU.

[–]Cmvplease28 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right on brother. They have it in their DNA. The crazy thing is they ask for one thing but want another. So when we give them what they ask we become blue pill. It's kind of fucked up.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

most women are incapable of articulating what they want from you and because they want you to "get it".

Most, very true; I'd say almost all. Unless they develop insight and acquire tools to act on it.

I'm wondering about the outliers.

They just won't tell YOU.

Even the ones who follow that plan referenced above don't explain anything, they just change their behavior and ask for specific things, not "I want you to be more masculine". It's manipulative in one way, but in another way, it's just a woman using tools to become as close to a unicorn as possible, because it makes her marriage functional.

I was inspired by InChargeMan's post a few weeks ago about how he achieved a D/s relationship.

People here talk about how AWALT: hopelessly narcissistic, and I get the idea that they think women and marriage are therefore necessarily hopeless, but to me it seems ICM demonstrated that it's possible to build your own unicorn. The women in that book who have the insight to see it's necessary and the guts to endure the process have proven they can, on their own initiative, become the best unicorn they can be. I think there is a parallel process: her task might not be 'the grindingest grind anyone has ever ground', it may necessarily be less difficult than a man having to take responsibility for an entire family's financial and physical welfare. But to her, it may be a grind.

[edit: thanks for your thoughtful reply]

[–]tspitsatgp12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You know this isn’t about RP. My wife didn’t find RP and she was trying many of the things they spout. Their husbands are drunk and won’t notice till long after those women have given up trying.

Call me a cynic but you can’t make a person see until they want to see. Especially a man whose wife is doing her wifely duties and fluffing him all the while resenting that she’s driving him because he isn’t leading her.

When I look around me now I see family, children, colleagues and strangers calling out for leadership. Someone to take responsibility.

I did not see or understand that before, but I do now and I relish the opportunities it presents.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

one of the few responsive comments to the post.

You know this isn’t about RP.

How do you mean? Maybe we have a different definition of RP. I understand RP to be a process of applying the understanding of genetically driven behaviors to male/female dynamics to come up with techniques to manage your behavior relative to the opposite sex: dropping the failures, keeping what works, and sharing the insights with others.

My wife didn’t find RP and she was trying many of the things they spout.

This does sound like we are speaking at cross purposes. The techniques they use seem to me to pretty accurately exploit male psychology. IMO, if she tried the techniques from that document on you, that was RP. If they didn't work, it doesn't necessarily mean the techniques are flawed, it could have been the execution.

For example,

doing her wifely duties and fluffing him all the while resenting that she’s driving him because he isn’t leading her

Is half wrong; the book says the first thing she has to do is stop resenting him, forgive him, and soften her heart toward him. Men also fail if they pass all the shit tests but fail the comfort tests - or vice versa.

When I look around me now I see family, children, colleagues and strangers calling out for leadership. Someone to take responsibility.

Yeah, fascinating, isn't it, seeing the Matrix. This reminds me of the saying "you can't be a good leader if you can't be a good follower." I bet those people you are seeing exercise little leadership of others anywhere in their lives. I think it's a question of self-awareness and agency. It's the old childhood dream of wanting someone to take care of you.

[–]470_2_700_nm5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shut the fuck up and go lift. “Looking at things from the other side of the situation”.

That’s bluepill cuck thinking stop it.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret7 points8 points  (33 children) | Copy Link

Here is your red pill woman.

I didnt even know that sub existed. I dont trust it.

What the fuck am I reading here.

[–]RStonePT12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Remember when tempestteacup and Phantom dream had their temper tantrum with RPS?

They took all the material down in redpillwomen and made that sub, which quickly became a middle aged woman bully fest, with Pinterest photos.

Turns out women don't just ruin male space, they ruin women's spaces too

[–]Over60_FireTempered3Red Beret2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Recently MERP mods let a woman say her piece. Seems they thought her little bit was harmless. MY problem is I think it is the difference between letting someone shit a little on your floor, or take a big dump. Either way, it smells, it leaves a mark, and the next dog bitch to come along will sniff it out, and shit in the same place. It is a rule zero - minus one for me. End of rant.

[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The sign on the fort says No Girls Allowed

[–]Over60_FireTempered3Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No doubt. …when slutty Suzie stopped by the fort in her new halter top and short shorts, all grins and smelling like fish, seems like I was the one that tackled her, held her down, and enforced the rule. I liked being a dick, and she didn't seem to mind.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Had to go back to BPPs rules on the subject, but my understanding is that at least in Ask, women posters are tolerated, barely, based on their commentary. Their posts are scrutinized, and any post that goes beyond what is allowed is gone. Main sub, they're banned without warning. Most of the time folks report them on the main sub, makes life easier.

Rare to see them here regardless.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What about the inverse?

I got banned over on the divorce sub a while back.

My recover time between sets has gone up due to increased weight. So need more places to shit post between sets.

[–]Over60_FireTempered3Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the info. Didn't know about ASKMRP exception. Back when BPP was re-making those rules I was advocating the hard line, in fact, more so now. Regardless, "rare to see them" is almost my idea of perfect. Thanks.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to ask her what her lifting stats are. Bet she is a BBW

[–]IncitingDramah3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck am I reading here.

Tldr; Hypergamy and BP behavior.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ouch. Only my innermost thoughts.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Oh... I see it now

Class conscious soccer mom irritated that her prince charming isn't better than her friends prince charming. Plays the martyr by playing up normal relationship issues in order to justify an eventual divorce.

Also, since her mind ain't right, the sex ain't doing it for her anymore. I guarantee all her self care is setting her up for a branch swing the instant one comes available

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I feel like venting.

My eyeballs want to run away screaming when I read that nonsense.

her prince charming isn't better than her friends prince charming.

And that's exactly how they are. We are pack animals to them. It's so liberating to know where we stand. They only care about other woman.

The closest relationship i have in the life is with my sister. My friends that have known us for decades call us the lanasters.

As I was reading the rational Male and was new I imeditally went running right to her with a fat "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT". She read pieces of it and started throwing out all this life experience about beta men that wouldn't approach. The words she used were "I have never heard it put to words like that but that's exactly how we think". The next thing she said "we cant raise weak beta sons". We each have 2.

With the exception of dread. My sister tells me it's more about another woman getting me than her genuine desire to fuck me.

Shes even blind to some of the stuff she read. And the story of her life is a red pill cliche story.

I dont trust them, even my sister cant see it. My mother wants me to take out a bank loan, and buy her out on her half of my parents place. My dad doesn't give a fuck, his half is going right to me and my sister. That house is where i want to die. Its worthless pretty much, less than 400k and my mother has multiple GICs over 400k. Shes been banking her paychecks for 30 years.

My sister and I get the money when she dies anyway. That 185k is worth more to my mother than me living in the house I grew up in.

Between my mother, my sister, and my wife, they are the three primary colors of the feminine. All other woman will be a shade of the 3.

They are all the same.

Some of them sound different, like that bird.

I love the truth.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Well put. I had my mom over for an extended visit this summer, and I was just amazed how this woman I've known my whole life lacked so much self awareness on the issue. She was always so switched-on when I was growing up.

Cest la vie

Also I did an oopsie and commented in RPWives on this point...

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also I did an oopsie and commented in RPWives on this point...

Bah, you stuck your toe in it!

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I spent a few rest periods reading some shit over there.

My total Test dropped down to 75 and my lifts dropped 200# across the board and I now weigh 150#.

I am back to tadpole lifting status.

Thanks.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Automod removed the comments here, fortunately.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Here is your red pill woman.

So, basically she wants to not work, and he isn’t the beta bux she hoped for, so she resents him... and the dude isn’t ducking her. This is actually everything we talk about, but the hypergamy really pops out with her jealousy towards her friend who doesn’t have to work

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup, they got that bird to do all kinds of dumb shit, but If you open that cage, it's still going go peck your eyes out.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, solipsism is alive

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

I went into my marriage expecting to both pull our weight. Truly.

I'm trying really fucking hard to get him to pull his.

And yes, jealous of the women that don't have to.

Check out some of my other posts and comments. There is a bigger picture.

I am also being ducked, Just not like I want.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You mean your not getting fucked like “you used to”

Based off the pics you PMd me (thank you for feeding my ego on that BTW. Nice to know my presence is so widely appreciated here gals will send me pics for validation) you are decently good looking, have some tone in your muscles and clearly know how to pole dance.

So you were either once a stripper or you have desires on wanting to be a stripper or that kinda life style. Dont try to tell me its for working out either.

In either case there is probably less than 5% of the male populous that can handle this kind of woman. He would need frame, ego, AM and OI out the ass. Actually he is a guy alot like me.

Seeking happiness in your marriage is about as pointless as trying to raise the sea level by tossing a garden hose in it and turning it on.

You will, in time become the kind of woman that “doesn’t need a man” because you will get sick of the Betas who cant excite you, and the Alphas who you cant lock down.

The rare hope for you is to find an Alpha like me who is divorced, doesn’t need a LTR but doesn’t mind one either. Ij that case the best hope you have is to make sure you can suck a golf ball thru a water hose, use those stripper skills AND be a decent homemaker. Do all that, and you hook onto someone like me for a while.

You are never going to get what you want from your current man and relationship.

And even if he tries you will always resent him for the fact he “didnt just get it”

So Ill tell you what I tell everyone else.

Start making your exit plan.

And if your in Dallas and wanna smash, HMU.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

You got the clean photos with my bits covered up so don't get too excited. The good ones go elsewhere.

I did actually do it to lose weight. I dropped two dress sizes. Still weigh the same though. Believe or not.

Wrong again on how I'm being fucked too. Its all too personal to detail on here to be pulled apart.

What you are right about and what matches my own assessment of the situation is this... " The rare hope for you is to find an Alpha like me who is divorced, doesn’t need a LTR but doesn’t mind one either. Ij that case the best hope you have is to make sure you can suck a golf ball thru a water hose, use those stripper skills AND be a decent homemaker. Do all that, and you hook onto someone like me for a while" That's assuming I'd want another LTR at all.

And thanks, If I'm passing through I'll let you know.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Stop fooling yourself woman. I dont even know you and I already know you better than you know yourself.

Your husband is a man child. He smokes pot. He is so fucking lazy he sends you to get the pot for him. He plays video games. He jacks off on your face while you are sleeping cause in his mind his hand is easy.

I guarantee he watchs porn and faps as well. He was a SAHD.

He is a blue collar worker who has to work 6-7 days a week now. He is a plow horse.

He is a FUCKING LOSER.

You are a wanna be stripper or at least want to have the sexual freedom of one. You have a fire between your legs that he cant put out, but at some point in your life, someone did. Or you want someone to. LPT: it isn’t Mr Poley.

You are clearly investing in yourself while he is not. You see him as a child. Not a man.

How you talked about your father is a stark comparison to how you talked about you “Baby Daddy”

The fact you even used that term tells me that you have absolutely no respect for him as the father of your kids or your man.

And I dont blame you.

Dont misunderstand me. I am actually not attacking you.

But get the fuck outta here with this cognitive dissidence. You are no different than 100 MEN who come in here talking about their worthless women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There is a bit more of the truth in here, I can see you've had a proper look into it this time. Especially this bit "You have a fire between your legs that he cant put out, but at some point in your life, someone did. Or you want someone to. LPT: it isn’t Mr Polly" TBH I'd rather my post in RPW hadn't made its way in here, but I'm too mouthy not to stick up for myself now that it has.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you dont like the mirror I hold up in front your face to see what you already know, thats not my problem.

Go read some of my content. Its not worth staying in a busted marriage just to stay.

[–]RStonePT2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your virtue is safe with us, as no one truly cares

but I'm too mouthy not to stick up for myself now that it has.

This is not a positive quality, not one you should flex. Sexual frustration sucks, I get it. You're fighting hard to find a new dick and not be a bad person when you do, so save yourself the trouble and just accuse him of something, that's the most efficient way.

And if you both are lucky, this will be the kick in the ass that starts something.

I took a quick look, you're drinking and you're in a classic covert contract. You're doing chores expecting desirable sex to come out of it. As long as you'll eventually do it he never will, so stop and suck up how uncomfortable it makes you.

Also, you're extremely class conscious and I guarantee the envy of your older friends life of luxury is a big reason you resent hubby... That hell is one of your own doing. I wager if it wasn't for that, the 10 10 disaster you have would be a 5, max.

You should head down to PPD, you'd fit right in

Edit: think I hit the mark. Looks like she deleted her account

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently she isn’t into DP.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, extreme resentment on RPW

This sub really can help get even better perspective on the female hamster

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

perspective on the female hamster

among other things

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you think you're reading there?

[–]RStonePT7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂😂

I only like those places because it keeps the girls from trying to run their mouth here.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Probably ought to ask this question on deadbedroom

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

at first I thought, 'what a pithy, sarcastic, ironic answer'.

actually almost pretty good advice, in a way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Funnily enough that's the sub I started out in, when I'd just got my libido back and was trying to understand what had changed.

[–]40mullet2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was young and once after blowjob god knows why I said "thank you". She looked me straight in the eyes and calmly said "do not ever thank me again (after sex)". Also she has never sabotaged my efforts to better myself, job, gym... They have it in their blood. Unless they consciously choose beta bucks.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

one of the few responsive comments in this thread

They have it in their blood. Unless they consciously choose beta bucks.

opposite ends of the same spectrum.

can see/assert need for captaincy<------------->passive/dependent; lacking insight; narcissist

fathers matter.

[–]Xtinamina1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Seems to work.

It doesn't.

It's funny to see the feminine equivalent of "faggot- lift and STFU", etc.

It's not funny, and they don't have that. They're all over the place. It's like you're trying to walk on sand while imagining as hard as you can that it's stable ground, but every time you open your eyes it's still sand and you're still stumbling, then your girlfriends tell you to close your eyes and imagine harder.

Anybody led here by the wife leading from behind?

Gross.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems to work.

It doesn't.

You'd have to read their source documents. If you believe them.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

WTF is a red pill wife?

Is that a wife that fucks her husband in the ass with a BBC dildo?

Anybody led here by the wife leading from behind?

Giddy. Strapon and a horse lead sound fun as fuck.

Faggot.

[–]umizumiz4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol OP, this is why you lurk a bit first. So you know what not to say in case this fucker right here is on the board hahaha

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, there are plenty of women that make a comment that sticks in your brain like a seed until it grows. They aren’t telling you to do something or. Aching, it’s just a simple comment.

I had a younger girl make that type of comment to me about 6yrs ago. I was making dinner for my wife and her. She was a very attractive and classy girl;. She made the comment when my wife left the room. Something about appreciating a capable man handling dinner and knowing how to please two women. Yada, yada, yada, the divorce was a shitty process, but a fantastic result and now I’m dating that girl and shot is really good.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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