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[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Effect size is roughly d = 0.5, but what a funny and primitive automatism this is. Makes you wonder whether this effect could be amplified with more intense stimuli, possibly video stimuli, e.g. the man could be telling a joke with the females surrounding laughing about it. Or one could make the contextual females look up at the man with lust or touch him, hold hands with him. Or the man could actually be having sex with the females. Perhaps the effect would be even more pronounced.

[–]Productivity10 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Incredible finding, this has real life implications for strategies

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

this is exactly why i’ve been telling people having female friends is important

[–]Altmark22 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This had long been known in PUA circles, i.e. 'pre-selection game'. It seems to apply to the females of nearly every species.

I wonder if this has been tested in a more naturalistic fashion in humans?

[–]DicamVeritatem 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Pre-selection is a powerful thing with women.

Which is why you should endeavor to be seen with attractive women, and never seen in the company of unattractive women. Unfortunate, but you can blame women for it. They’re the ones with the pre-selection proclivity, not us.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is this a form of mate poaching? They see a man already surrounded by women and this pre-selection makes them like the guy more?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, and it is fairly well studied and sometimes large effect sizes (around d = 1.), see the mate choice copying section here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a7065g/the_ultimate_hypergamy_compilation/

This seems to be another evolved heuristic by which females choose from the top of the hierarchy (besides e.g. dark triad behavior). Multiple females socializing with a man is a hard-to-fake signal of high status as each female chooses based on status. Though the convenience pre-selection may also play a role.

[–]DarkGamer_ -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

1 out of 10 points is not much. Preselection is bullshit. It was invented by a guy that couldnt read guys faces for attraction so he thought women must be copying each other. Its like thinking guys that are jerks get women because they see an attractive man being a jerk to a girl that liked him.

[–]Mority90 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

good point. the evolutionary argument makes sense to me but the effect is not so strong that it overshadows everything. For example having photos on tinder with another girl (your ex maybe) will hurt you. Because women also like that you are available.

[–]000_TheSilencedNuke 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Preselection is very real

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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