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DISCUSSIONIssue with being a millennial RPW (self.RedPillWomen)

submitted by cosmo12321

I'm a university (communications undergrad) student in Canada and today was our last class of the semester. My professor asked our class why we are going to university and what our goals were as a goodbye/thought provoking question before our exam period.

Some people answered and a lot of people were unsure which is what is expected at my age. Personally , university for me is a place to expand academically and essentially I just want to become an educated homemaker and wife. However, I got anxious about answering because of what other people would think. Society has taught me (and other millennial women) that being a stay at home wife/mother is oppressive and that I'm not achieving my full potential. Traditional lifestyles are boring and if I am anything other than a feminist I'm being oppressed by a system of patriarchy. An "empowered" woman doesn't do things for men , and "empowered" women shouldn't be stuck at home , an "empowered" woman believes all the bull that's bombarded in pop culture and social media .

Thinking back on it I should've answered the question. I think a lot of millennials like me are afraid of admitting to be traditional or wanting simple things in life because of the judgement they will receive from their peers . I don't think there's anything wrong about being domesticated and serving your family but unfortunately a lot of people around me disagree . I thought nobody shared my views until I came across RPW. This sub has really reinforced my thoughts in a time of doubt and even helped me further improve my relationship with my boyfriend.

Millennials! Don't be afraid to stick or adopt to traditional values. Many studies and real world examples show that it's an effective way to have a relationship . Don't believe all the bull that other millennials are feeding you. Listen to real world marriages and divorcees and contrast/compare; you'll see the truth.

Here's a link that influenced me to write this as well: https://youtu.be/n-L5K_XMww4l


[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you're completely right about everything except having spoken up. I don't think there was anything to gain from speaking out and making yourself a target.

[–]bittersweettruth_14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I think OP was in the right, in this case, to stay quiet.

There is a time and a place to open your mouth and speak up, but IMO openly spouting "traditional" viewpoints in a university is like strapping pieces of raw steak onto you and walking into a lion's den. It's unfortunate, but that's the situation that we as a society have found ourselves in.

I'll use this moment to introduce a nugget of relevant wisdom for the OP. From the 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene:

Law 9: Win Through Your Actions - Never Through Argument

Any momentary triumph you think you have gained through argument is really a Pyrrhic victory: The resentment and ill will you stir up is stronger and lasts longer than any momentary change of opinion. It is much more powerful to get others to agree with you through your actions, without saying a word. Demonstrate, do not explicate.

Sometimes there is no use wasting your breath to explain yourself to people that do not understand. Demonstrate, do not explicate. In other words, demonstrate with your actions why your views make more sense.

[–]qwertyuiop1112222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think there was anything to gain from speaking out and making yourself a target.

She would have gotten into an argument with idiots. They would not have been able to change her mind; she would not have been able to change theirs. However, groups being how they are, she would have gotten ostracized in the future.

Yup, do what you want to, but best to stay quiet about it. What the OP did makes sense.

[–]violetpiecrisis17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I genuinely tried to be "empowered." I attended college, I worked full time, and I tried to "have it all" as a young mother. I hated it. I hated leaving my crying son at day care to go to work. I hated cooking "quick" dinners and eating alone at 10pm. I hated being too tired to be available to my husband. I was raised on RP values by my mother and grandmother. I flourish here, and I'm happier than I've ever been. My husband and son are happier too, and being there to care for them brings me more joy than any paycheck or degree ever has.

[–]cxj8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But but if society just dumped more tax dollars on public daycare u could have it all!

DAE SWEDEN?!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Yes girl I'm in the same boat. But I'm a communications major with a sociology minor. I get feminism crammed down my throat

[–]Willow-girl2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Oh my! I really wonder about what colleges are teaching these days. I attended many years ago, and was a math and science major, so I wasn't exposed to too much brainwashing. I never finished my degree, though, and I'd be reluctant to go back now because I think, at my age, I'd have a hard time keeping my mouth shut! LOL

I will add, though, in defense of us working women, that I do think RP/traditional views are a mindset that isn't necessarily incompatible with having a career, too. In today's world, sometimes work is a necessity, but that doesn't mean that you can't value and prioritize things like homemaking and respecting your mate.

[–]PantheraTigris95 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Sociology is one of my majors.

University has definitely made me less 'socially liberal' - it is truly ridiculous. Political correctness is taken to extremes, and I'm not talking about racial issues, more like "Don't use the word 'he' to talk about someone in an essay, always use 'she' to balance it out" What?

I really think the goal is a total overturning/erasing of gender roles, and from what I've seen, the outcomes are either massively idealistic, or just outright impossible. Biology comes second to feelings.

The 'keeping your mouth shut' one is difficult. I've concentrated in criminology so I can avoid the feminism classes, but professors (often female ones) have massive biases, so you know you'll lose marks for writing anything anti-feminist. It's terrible. 18months and I'll be done.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but it depends. We covered things like the wage gap, glass ceiling, etc. and the professor said "feminism is for EVERYONE" and I just sat there staring at the wall.

It's easy though, I know exactly what they want to hear and I'm pretty sure I'm getting an A in that class

The problem with humanity based science is they ignore the nature argument in nature vs. nurture

[–]cosmo12321[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most colleges now are extremely leftist and anti RP ideas (especially ones in large cities like Vancouver where I am). ESPECIALLY in the arts . I'm not against people hving their own ideas but it's literally being shoved down our throats without people realizing it . There's been some classes where the prof has changed the textbook to fit his socialist views or times where my boyfriend was unfairly marked because his work was anti- left. Even if you have your own opinions as a human you still should be pro free speech.

edit : also , I agree with the working thing , I would not be against working to help support my family . To me, being a woman means helping my family in any way I can , and if some extra income is what my family needs most then I will do it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're absolutely right about prioritization. I think when you have too many responsibilities others can get shoved out. I am so blessed that we can afford to have me work only 3 nights a week so I can stay home with our new son and keep the home the rest of the time. It is my greatest joy. I do love my job, I'm a CNA, have been for ten years, bit caring for my family is, as I said, my greatest joy.

[–]Banincoming3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's strange how the same people that say being a homemaker is the "hardest job in the world" look down on it like it's slavery.

[–]Rospina 3 points3 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't think that's that strange. If you were forced to do the actual hardest job in the world and didn't have any choice in the matter, you'd probably see that as slavery.

[–]hot-breakfast1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The hardest job in the world will always be the one you don't want to do.

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[–]cosmo12321[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The simple things in life I was talking about was having a family and a husband . I dont want a lavish lifestyle and to have endless riches . I just want to live comfortably and be able to raise a healthy happy family with a husband who loves me .

"You want a man to spend half or more of what he earns on your livelihood while you provide no financial contributions"

Not everything is about finances ! I'm contributing by my duties to my family . I will love, take care of, cook clean whatever needs to be done for my family and with great love and honor . That's not something you can trade for money no matter how much maids or cooks you can hire .

Being a dutiful wife and mother to me also means to helping my family in any way I can . If at the time it means to provide an extra source of income I will go out to work. I'm sure that's what a lot of RPW here will agree on as well and why the women in your family were hustlers .

One more thing , women being more domesticated IS traditional . The era you're talking about is when women just started entering the workforce . But what about the thousands of years before that? Yup , men= breadwinners , women= domesticated and you see this with almost every culture throughout history . You actually even see it in primates today! Everyone was equally needed but had diffeeent roles.

[–]Mentathiel3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but historically taking care of domestic duties took up the entire day and a whole family of women. There was too much to attend to and no easy technology to replace human labor. Nowadays you can easily keep your house clean, laundry done etc. with around one hour a day of work + however much you need for cooking. That's a couple of hours a day and this is a generous estimate. Again, women needed entire days to finish things up when ten of them were doing it together. On top of that, they still helped in the fields etc.

The only good excuse for having either party stay at home is taking care of the kids, really. It's a sad state of affairs that our children grow up with grandparents or strangers basically and I think this definitely needs to be addressed and I don't judge SAHMs for this sole reason.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes .

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think a common misconception today is that just because you have an opinion, you're entitled to state it and everyone must listen.

I think this stemmed from women finally "speaking their minds" about how unhappy they were after decades of being told to keep quiet, which wasn't right either. However, stating that you're unhappy and why has transformed into "anyone should say any half formed thought that pops into their head". You're allowed to keep your thoughts and opinions to yourself and truthfully I think the world would be a happier place if everyone did these even just half the time.

[–]cosmo12321[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree, some other commentators have noted this and I think the best way to prove my point is through demonstration. Actions are louder than words

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very true

[–]plein_old1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds good. :)

I should've answered the question

Well, one traditional notion is that we don't always have to speak our mind, depending on the situation. And one common millennial idea seems to be that we should always speak our mind, especially when there is an opportunity to get into an argument with someone. lol.

So...

[–]VigilantRedRoosterModerator1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Speaking out publicly and more openly about Red Pill ideas and values is important. Pick your battles of course, but silence = consent. How will our views be known and propagate if we hold them inside always?

This is one of the reasons a more-public TRP group is forming, to share tools, ideas, and FRs about opinion change and sharing stigmatized knowledge. It's understood that some aren't in a position to freely share their RP ideals, but when those who can, do, our ideas stop being publicly defined only by our unabashedly vocal enemies and detractors.

Thanks for posting this, OP. Yes, a lot of SJW garbage is fed to every generation of college kids out of the house but not yet having to work for a living. Time to start feeding back RP truths, if only in subtle ways, to counteract the SJW indoctrination that you lament.

[–]Jwilliams__1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a millennial I've started to speak up about my conservative views and I'd highly recommend doing it. I've had a few angry feminists and socialists confront me but I've also seen a lot of typically quiet people speak up about sharing the same beliefs. In university it can be better to keep your head down though, depending on what your university is like and where you are from. In the work place (insurance industry specifically) most people are fairly conservative anyway.

[–]rainyweathergirl1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

College campuses are crawling with authoritarian liberals. I have found that around some people it's better that I just keep certain views to myself to avoid bullying.

[–]Prettiest_Star220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Please don't beat yourself up over this. It takes time for us all to find this. I'm sure if many of us could go back to that point in our lives so many things we would do differently. But focussing on the past just a waste of your energy. You know who you are now. Embrace it. Dont look back. x

[–]PinkTulipz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, and believe me we're not as alone as social media would have us believe. Because a lot of people, (especially in this group) are not looking to recruit, we don't typically speak up about our beliefs.

Don't fret over it! :) sometimes I feel the same way and wish I could be more open without the threat of being ostracized, but it doesn't worry me.

As long as I'm free live my life the way I want to, I don't care what anyone else thinks and don't care to let them know.

[–]tylertgbh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Out of curiosity, what province/city are you in? I've repeatedly seen complaints in TRP about how pretentious and stuck up Canadian girls are, especially in Toronto.

[–]4Sken0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

communications undergrad

Nice

Thinking back on it I should've answered the question. I think a lot of millennials like me are afraid of admitting to be traditional or wanting simple things in life because of the judgement they will receive from their peers

Nice

[–]ThatStepfordGalEndorsed Contributor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it would have been worth it to speak out. If no one speaks out, no one else will follow. This is the exact reason I started my blog, That Stepford Gal. I got sick of having self-hate because I thought I wasn't fitting in, not wanting to have a hotshot career and wanting to be more of a homemaker and child carer. Women like us need to speak out for what we like, because that's how we can inspire others to come out of their shell. I'm a little older than you but I know other women feel like us, maybe even around you, but they won't admit it unless you are close to them because they are afraid. Now as myself in everyday life when people ask me what I like to do and what I want in the future, I'm honest, no matter their reaction. If I'm not teaching I'd be married and homemaking. Simple.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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