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Hi everyone. I made a throwaway account because my friends know my original account. I had already posted on another subreddit. I thought the women of RP could give me another perspective?

Coming to the story, I am a Christian. I met my boyfriend - lets call him Peter, in church. I've attended this church for 2.5 years now. He is a worship leader there. We did not speak for the first year - actually I didn't speak to anyone there the first year as I am very socially awkward. After a year I made friends there and became a prominent member of the church, involving actively in church activities. After going to certain events together, we spoke a little and after a month he told me that maybe we should get to know each other and consider marriage. I wasn't interested at first as he is the exact opposite of my type or guys that I generally like. The next 3-5 months he put a lot of effort to spend time with me, talk to me, get to know me better, pray for me etc. I have been lonely most of my life, so I easily get attached to people. Even though he's different from the idea of a man I had in my heart, I got too attached to him and eventually fell in love with him. He told me loves me within 3 months and even though I liked him, I wanted to take my time so I asked him for some time to know him better as he isn't much of a talker and doesn't tell me much about himself. I've tried to make deep conversation to understand him better and every time he brushes it off saying I'm a simple man, I don't have any special liking or interests.

After 4 months and still not finding anything in common that we can connect on, I gave up and said I can't work with this since I can't connect to him at all. Also he's kind of a very stoic person and he gets angry very easily. I have shared every important aspect of my life with him, my interests, dreams, likes, dislikes and even that part I hate to speak about the most - My childhood. Even though I haven't told him entirely about how much I was abused and beaten by my parents I have shared to an extent. My biggest fear in my life is that I'll end up in an abusive marriage and that my adulthood will be just like my childhood and that I will never find happiness. Even though he never gave me a reason to believe he would hit me, his anger and the way he shouts when I do something wrong makes me wonder what if someday I speak up and do not agree with what he says, what he would do?

Anyway I had a lot of fear running in my heart and I thought about it and decided that maybe I let all the fears in my heart make the decision for me and I called it off out of fear. So I maybe I should give him another chance and tell him that I love him too. So I gathered the courage and told him after 3 weeks that I love him and maybe we should give it another try. He agreed. I was overjoyed. Finally I can return his feelings and share our feelings with each other.

But ever since then the way he talks to me is very formal and distant. He doesn't call me anymore. Just texts. Doesn't want to go out anywhere. Every time I speak to him I feel like I am talking to a stranger. We always made sure to spend time doing activities in public so that we don't do anything wrong. So its not like I am calling him home. But every time I suggest something he turns it down. Every No breaks my heart. I never want to be in a position where I have to beg for someone's love or time. I asked him why he is being so distant he said that He can only treat me specially once everything is confirmed and we get married. Like I said, I am not asking him to sleep with me? We kissed just once and he was the one who initiated it, I felt super guilty later and he apologized. It might seem weird to a lot of you but it's normal in our Asian culture to be physical intimate before marriage.I understand that and all I am asking is to show some affection, go out and spend time together or just talk. Am I asking for too much? Am I being unreasonable here? I am afraid he got too comfortable in the relationship and is just not putting in any effort now that he knows I'll stay. I am afraid to get in to this marriage as i feel it will give me a loveless future.

Please help me. I feel lost and unloved. I have been crying myself to sleep the past month. Am i doing something wrong?

Sorry for the length. Just wanted to pour out everything that has been building up in my heart. Any advice would be helpful.


[–][deleted] 98 points99 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Personally I think any relationship that causes anyone this much agonising soul searching and questioning this early in the game, is never going to get any better. What you are getting now, is what you will continue to get. If that's what you want, go for it. If not, tell him you're not thrilled by the way things have changed and unless it returns you are out. And mean it.

[–]MathGirl1720 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes! I want to add that what you get now will worsen once you are married. He has a bad temper now? It will be much greater once he knows you are his.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I will do that. Thank You so much!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck 💜 Hope he rises to the challenge x

[–]Buck2240 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like you were right when you called it if the first time. You have nothing in common except you met at church, you're afraid of his temper after only a few months, and now he's being emotionally distant to punish you.

Your post suggests you are only ever together in public, am I understanding that correctly? He shouts and loses his temper in public when you "do something wrong" does not suggest great things for any future wife or children of his.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are right about the common part.

Yes we were only together in Public. But he never yelled at me in public. It was on call.

Thank you for your input.

[–]StroopyLoopy85 points86 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like he's holding out to try to get you to cave. In a manipulative sort of way.

I'd be wary of marrying someone whose only personality trait you know is their explosive temper.

Trust your gut

[–]i-grok-it13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't agree more. I understand that it's a Christian tradition to wait to get intimate until marriage.

But it's something I strongly disagree with. And this situation is an example of why.

If the only way to have sex its through marriage, then I can only conclude that the chances increase that people will go on marrying somebody just to finally be able to have condoned sex ( which in my book is the wrong reason to marry).

u/Throwaway_rs001 He sounds manipulative and self-aggrandizing. I would suggest steering clear.

There are people out there who are good people. And there's a man out there who will love you, endeavor to make a real connection with you, and won't beat you or make you beg for attention.

Don't settle with less out of fear or self doubt. Know that you can do better. And know that good things can happen in your life.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] -1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Thank You, In my culture it is normal for men to be a little assertive. So its normal if he yells at me when I do wrong. He has yelled at me only a few times and those are times I actally messed up.

But I see your point. Thanks for your input.

[–]StroopyLoopy19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You know your culture better than most of us do, and you don't seem enthused about his behavior.

Trust. Your. Gut.

[–]dashdotdott0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trust. Your. Gut.

Yes! You can rationalize anything away but something is telling you to be careful, trust it.

Also, if he is a worship leader at your church, you should have some idea what the preaching is on where the line of what can be done before marriage and cannot as far as physical intimacy goes. If also watch to see if he practices what is preached.

[–]Dumb_Velvet3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is normal for men to be assertive. It is not normal for men to have crazy tempers that make you walk on eggshells like Peter. Tread carefully.

[–]ajaa1232 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if you made a mistake.. he should be talking to you in a calm manner. Sounds like he needs to learn how to control his anger it is not right to get so aggressive.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Couples yell at each other all the time. Explosive anger is usually the definition of honesty. You get angry, you reveal it, you're not doing anything sneaky or getting back at them later.

There are others who have implosive anger, they get angry, but they don't reveal it... then later suddenly you are under physical attack by an abuser.

So the idea that someone has a quick temper is not indicative of violence/abuse.

There's quick-anger abusers, and long-brewing silent types who later abuse. Anger does not correlate with violence it is a subset. Those who are violent tend to be angry.

The real problem is the fact that you haven't had sex. How do you know after marriage the sex is terrible? Or after marriage, you realize he has sexual deviance...? You can't know until you had sex.

The other problem is talking to someone and they don't share details, they are quiet, they don't give out much about themselves. That's also bad. You don't know someone until they reveal it to you. You could spend 10 years with someone and not know anything about them if they decide not to reveal it.

Demand total honesty and openly speaking relationship before you even think about marriage. Say no otherwise.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Thank You for your comment.

I have called it off.

There's quick-anger abusers, and long-brewing silent types who later abuse. Anger does not correlate with violence it is a subset. Those who are violent tend to be angry.

I didnt say he was abusive, Its just a fear I had in my mind. But yes what you said is true.

The real problem is the fact that you haven't had sex. How do you know after marriage the sex is terrible? Or after marriage, you realize he has sexual deviance...? You can't know until you had sex.

In my culture this is the norm and pre-marital sex is frowned upon. Thats not even important to me at this point. It's something that you can somehow work around. Its the lack of communication and bonding that was killing me.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How marriage worked in the real Christian world back 100s of years ago... you don't have sex pre-marriage because it would lead to out-of-wedlock children, there was very little contraceptive capability or technology. Once married, there is no divorce, or a divorce leads to your outcast, so even if the sex was bad, you are there till death till you part ways. Furthermore, if the guy marries you, and say either the woman or the man wants sex a lot, but the other one doesn't... That's not possible. The man gets sex when he requests it. It's part of marriage.

But in this modern world... no marriage till sex doesn't work. A woman can deny sex whenever she wants. A woman can divorce any time she wants. A man can divorce any time he wants. There's all sorts of contraception and out-of-wedlock marriage isn't a problem. In other words, now waiting for sex UNTIL marriage is pointless. It's no longer logical. It would just be a giant waste of money at a wedding then immediate divorce because of sexual incompatibility.

What I'm saying is, when you're signing up for some "cultural norm"... You better know what exactly you are signing up for.

If a guy is willing to wait for "no sex until marriage"... That guy is likely having cultural expectations that is basically now considered rape. That is the red pill truth. They're NOT expecting you to say "no" to sex after the marriage or "I'm not in the mood"... They're not expecting that. They may have never thought about it. Maybe some men you can tame despite the marriage. i.e., how "/r/deadbedrooms" end up, with married couples who won't have any sex. So they're basically roommates.

I have called it off.

I think you made the right choice, don't feel bad. Just know what you sign up for and as a woman you have certain advantages if you're young. Having a husband who can't communicate is awful. It's awful for me to have guy-friends who can't communicate well.

[–]TheTyke0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree a lot with:

If a guy is willing to wait for "no sex until marriage"... That guy is likely having cultural expectations that is basically now considered rape. That is the red pill truth. They're NOT expecting you to say "no" to sex after the marriage or "I'm not in the mood"... They're not expecting that. They may have never thought about it. Maybe some men you can tame despite the marriage. i.e., how "/r/deadbedrooms" end up, with married couples who won't have any sex. So they're basically roommates.

I'm a man whom believes in waiting until marriage and am honestly appalled at the idea of expecting a future wife to submit to my needs of sex when I tell her to. That's a pretty terrible accusation and not at all how I feel and I suspect it isn't how most men such as myself feel either.

I'm sure there are some who do, but what you wrote stuck out to me and struck a nerve. In no way does waiting for marriage mean you then expect sex on demand once you're in a marriage.

If the reason either of you wishes to get married is to have sex, then that's obviously marriage for the wrong reasons and may be part of the problem. But that isn't an issue with chastity itself.

Also just to touch on the part about old Christian communities forcing sex on women. In Ireland for example it was actually law that a woman could demand sex of her husband. So it wasn't a gendered thing the world over. Either way it's a terrible concept.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You may be an odd one...

Most men think that when you're married, you have sex all the time.

THey of course eventually find out that this is not true later. They may have asked a married man.

But why would you marry someone only to find out that they don't like sex? Or marry someone only to find out that they don't like your genitalia?

[–]RubyWooToo3 Stars15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you feel that this man loves you as Christ loves his Church?

Do you want to bind yourself legally and by your vows to a man that you don’t trust?

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good point there. We are gonna talk it out in sometime. I am already nervous.

[–]RubyWooToo3 Stars0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’ve talked it out several times previously. What do you think will change this time?

[–]KathrynHogan31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

RUN.

[–]Theendisnearornot12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It sounds to me like you are having mixed feelings. On the one hand, you do seem to like him or at least like the attention he gave you. There is also the mixed up emotions of wanting to be married and maybe this is the one chance and what if you walk away from that? On the other hand, you are seeing some red flags and concerns about this particular man.

Personally I don’t believe someone that cares about you yells at you if you “do something wrong”. I like Pastor Mark Gungor’s take on hear types of issues. Courtship & dating are the times you are head over heels and everything is wonderful. It rarely gets better than that - you get along so well and it’s just heaven on earth. It rarely ever gets better than that time in a relationship. If it already is rocky - don’t expect marriage to fix it. You’re already seeing this side of him and you don’t care for it. Don’t allow yourself to be treated that way.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you so much. It makes sense. I will do what is necessary to end this.

[–]afinepairofeyes21 points22 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Please please run away as fast as you can. I have been in a position where I felt like I have “begged” for love/affection/attention. It destroyed my self-esteem and my confidence. I went from being a bold go-getter to someone who doubted everything I said and did. I have recovered now, but it was a rough road for a while. If your partner sets down conditions to show you positive feelings, this relationship is already transactional. He should want to make you happy; definitely so early on in the relationship.

I am sorry if I am coming across a little too strong. But I am rooting for you, like all the other people on this sub.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes. I am a very confident person, or should I say Was? This really has me doubting myself and even my beliefs.

Everything you said is true and I needed to hear it. So thank you.

[–]afinepairofeyes4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You are quite welcome. And don’t say “was”. You still have good instincts, especially since you saw fit to ask the group here. It takes courage to share shortcomings in your life with a bunch of strangers, even if they’re being kind to you. You are young, articulate, and from your other post, I see that you have your faith to give you strength.

What worked for me was something my mother taught me: that I had to put my feelings, my instincts and my sense of calm before trying to please anyone, even her. It helped me weed out a lot of negative influences from my life. And a lovely person on this sub suggested that I introspect, reflect on my own values and stay true to them no matter what my partner does. Some of the best advice I ever got.

I am here for you, if you ever need to message or chat, feel free to reach out.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

reflect on my own values and stay true to them no matter what my partner does.

I will also follow this.

I just got off the call. I was shaking and crying the whole time but i managed to call it off. Thank you for everyone's advice.

[–]afinepairofeyes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck, and stay strong!

[–]afinepairofeyes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hi, Ignore me if you wish, but as a stranger who wishes you well, I am just checking in to see how you are doing.. I hope you are well..

[–]lionliver9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Its like hes trying to manipulate you into marrying him. Break it off. You cannot marry to try to make something happen.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are right. Thank you.

[–]allmycatsaregay11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No personality and a bad temper? DO NOT marry this man. You will be miserable.

[–]_-_FanGirl_-_8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also he's kind of a very stoic person and he gets angry very easily

That's not stoicism.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No what I meant was he doesn't generally get very emotional or feel strongly about anything.Maybe I used the wrong term.

[–]justlibertarian11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Look up Narcissistic personality disorder and see how well it does fit.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I did, He is not at all like that. He is usually very kind and humble. It does not fit him at all.

[–]spirited_skeptic4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Narcissism encompasses both being kind and humble, that's 'playing the game' to get what they want, and other negative behaviours including what you have described. You sound like a thoughtful, lovely young lady. Don't sell yourself short.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank You for your kind words.

[–]secretladyaccount0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She said that the description doesn't fit his behavior. Saying that two complementary things both point to the same result is assuming the conclusion. I have seen a LOT of cluster-B personality disorders (my dad has NPD and I've dated several BPDs) and am the first one to suggest it if I see a hint of it. But I'm not seeing any clear NPD signs in OP.

[–]catipillar5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This man does not love you. In the eyes of this man, you meet the criteria HE is looking for. He wants a specific type of woman and you manage to "check all of his boxes."

I am married to an Eastern European man and in his culture, men are also very assertive, very stoic, very cold. It took a long time for my husband to open up to me, but open up to me he did. This is why I considered him "safe" enough to marry. The dynamic should be Captain and First Mate...a Captain makes the call, but he always confides the course to the First Mate. It sounds as if yours is just leaving you in the dark by not sharing his heart with you. This, to me, means that he considers you a useful accessory, and he is now manipulating you into legally binding accessory status.

If you're happy being a useful accessory for life, this man will be fine. If you want a warm and gentle husband who Captains your ship and trusts your judgement, I believe you should wait. You sound like a wonderful woman with a LOT to offer. You will have other opportunities for better.

[–]strwbrywild4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

From what you have said: Sounds narcissistic and controlling. There should never be an ultimatum for getting married or anything in a relationship Physical abuse is not the only kind of abuse. Emotional abuse and manipulation. Lots of red flags... follow your instincts...

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I will. Thank You.

[–]curious_monster3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Run. The way he treats you now will be the way he will always treat you. Trust your gut.

[–]Andropomorphine5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Whatever you do DO NOT MARRY this guy

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I decided not to and called it off. :)

[–]MrsChiliad2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've tried to make deep conversation to understand him better and every time he brushes it off saying I'm a simple man, I don't have any special liking or interests.

What a gigantic red flag. Do NOT marry someone you barely know. And I can tell you, you're not really in love with him as much as you're in love with the idea of him, if you barely know him.

Also he's kind of a very stoic person and he gets angry very easily.

Also doesn't make sense. Stoicism is about not letting your emotions rule your life. This is the opposite.

I asked him why he is being so distant he said that He can only treat me specially once everything is confirmed and we get married.

People show us who they are. He's showing you who he is. You're being manipulated into getting serious with this man you barely know. The things you really know about his character are: he's christian, he is manipulative, and he has an explosive temper, which, with you not really knowing him you have no idea how bad this could be. Do you know for a fact he would never hit you? Or try to cut you off from friends and family? You know for sure he's willing to treat you badly to get what he wants.

Get away from him and please work on the things that make you feel insecure about yourself so that you are never in this situation again.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank You for this. I was a very no-nonsense person. I do not know the woman I am today and how i came to be like this in just a few months.

work on the things that make you feel insecure about yourself so that you are never in this situation again.

I will definitely do this. I confronted him and called it off a while ago thanks to the courage I got through everyones advice.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Which Asian country?

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

India.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what I thought. Kerala?

[–]janeaustenfan990 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I want to advise therapy for a year along with putting some distance between abusive parents, but depending on world region this might not work.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did. I have been living away from them and on my own for the last five years. It has really improved my mental health.

[–]shockedpikachu1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When someone shows you they don’t care, believe them

[–]Deontic_Anti-statist1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As a Christian I would say a man who is quick to anger is not a man you should marry. And it seems to me this fear you have is your conscience telling you this.

Being a worship leader might be something to look up to but it isn't when he doesn't have the character qualities to accompany that position, then it's meaningless.

As someone who's dated a lot of Christian women I would say that if you don't have anything in common besides your faith then this is not the person you should be with.

If you're ment to be with each other then you'll feel it.

I know it's hard, I know the feeling of loneliness and the lack of romantic love. I'm 32 and I'm still waiting and looking.

Maybe you can be more active. When you see a man who has the virtues of Christ then pursue him.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hi. Thank You for your comment. You are absolutely right. I called it off last night. It was very difficult but somehow I pulled myself together and did it. It hurts a lot but I now dont have to worry about being neglected and doubt myself. God bless.

[–]Deontic_Anti-statist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good He will help you get through this. Focus on him and before you know it you'll be over it. God bless you.

[–]secretladyaccount1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't stay in a situation where a guy makes you beg for attention, it will crush you over time. If you tried to explain how you feel to him and he's still doing it, don't make any further commitments.

[–]greysigrace0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hello, I could connect to your story a lot as I think we both live in the same country, same culture and same sect. Though I could not share a lot about my experiences in relationships since I did not met my partner in church, I could share how my parents’ relationship work based on their stories.

They also met in a church abroad and as it was the old times, they limit physical touch as their primary love language. They only date in groups together with their churchmates, maybe you both can try that. Ask your best friend/ mentor or the best person you look up to (maybe your pastor) in church for counselling, invite them in your date too!

Between the both of you, don’t be afraid to tell him what you feel. Honesty is always a top trait in a relationship. Tell him your fears in this relationship. Or you want to know more about him and that you appreciate when he shares little things. Or little secrets.

And if he doesn’t accept it, maybe it just doesn’t go well with both of you and it’s time to end the relationship. Stand for your self worth. There’s a reason for everything. In the end God will teach us a lesson we would learn later in life.

Tell your Pastor or mentor who knows both of you. They can always help in making decisions. Remember to not stop attending church just because of that person. Remember who you are serving.

Godbless! :)

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hello, Thank you for sharing your story.

I talked it out and walked away just now. I was reading your comment and thats the last thing I read before making that decision.

Tell him your fears in this relationship. Or you want to know more about him and that you appreciate when he shares little things. Or little secrets.

I poured out my heart to this person and got nothing in return. And even after breaking down and explaining what went wrong he kept saying he was waiting for God's will and thats why he was distant. How long does he expect to wait like that?

Through tears and shivers I somehow managed to call it off.

Thank You for your time.

[–]HB32343 Stars0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am proud of you! I hope you feel proud of yourself too. The right thing to do isn't always the easiest thing to do. You took the hard step in order to honor yourself.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. It hurts a lot but I now feel that I have eliminated the reason for all my misery. I do not have to cling to something that gives me unhappiness in return for my love.

[–]WhatIsThisAccountFor3 Star0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It sounds like you two don’t have actual conversations. It’s just you talking to him and him not saying anything else.

What kind of person has “no likings or interests”. Like seriously, nothing?? That is bizarre, and honestly I don’t believe it is even possible. He is hiding something and your gut feeling is giving you the same signals.

He doesn’t sound like a good partner, and I would say that the vast majority of couples don’t drive each other to a level of screaming anger 3 months into a relationship.

This sounds like nothing you want to be a part of long term.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What kind of person has “no likings or interests”. Like seriously, nothing??

He might have its just that he never spoke about it. I have ATLEAST ONE THING in my life that I can talk about passionately. How can someone have nothing?! It blows my mind.

This sounds like nothing you want to be a part of long term.

Yes and I made up my mind and called it off after reading all the comments. Feeling less burdened now.

Thanks for your comment.

[–]Krysila 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

If he's getting angry and shouting at you that's a valid red flag and you should trust your judgement. Be careful as many many women end up psychologically bound in abusive relationships. You'd think it could never happen to you, but it's a lot more complicated than it looks. The male typically behaves "romantic" and a "best friend" in the beginning, only to start name calling, threatening and isolating you from family later on down the road.

After you've told him all your secrets, he'll pin you down. You'll keep trying to make "things work" because you believe there's a chance he'll go back to how he was when you first met him. It was only a facade though. People get stuck in countless repeats of fight and make up again trying to chase that facade.

When family and friends try to help you, you will end up turning on them to defend your male partner. Yes, even your own children (if you have any). This is called Stockholm syndrome. You'll start to justify his abusive behavior: "well he only yelled at me once today, and he didn't hit me he only spat in my face, he's getting better!" or "it's ok, I deserved that, I knew he liked his eggs scrambled and not poached".

It sounds like you might be approaching the beginning stages where you're having to avoid walking on egg shells around him. That's not a good sign. Also his ignoring you to the point where you're desperate for his attention might be a manipulation tactic. Bear in mind that just because he's Christian doesn't mean things will go well. I'm getting bad vibes because of how quickly the relationship started, how the relationship formed doesn't sound good. Christians are good at acting superficially nice, maybe more than any other group of people, but when things get real, the emotions, jealousy etc can turn ugly.

My most important piece of advice for you is to think logically. This is something us woman find inherently difficult to do on average. But use your reasoning and logical thinking skills and completely suppress your emotions and how you feel about him (when you're assessing whether or not to stay with him). Human emotions, promises etc are truly trash unless they can be backed up with action. If a guy says he's sorry and does the same thing again after a few tries. He's trash, move on.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

My most important piece of advice for you is to think logically. This is something us woman find inherently difficult to do on average. But use your reasoning and logical thinking skills and completely suppress your emotions

Forced myself to do this yesterday. Somehow pulled myself together and called it off.

I'm getting bad vibes because of how quickly the relationship started, how the relationship formed doesn't sound good.

I was not at all comfortable with the speed at which this was going. I've asked to slow down and take things one step at a time multiple times. He always said he has no idea what one has to talk that cant be discussed within 4-5 months. It's weird. I cannot get to know anything from a person within such a short period.

I am feeling much better that it's behind me.

[–]Copypastable0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Any guy of value would dump a girl who acts like the man you describe in a heartbeat. However, this doesn't work the other way around. He's making you feel emotions in rollercoasters, and women are into that despite what they say.

Basic red pill knowledge is women are emotional and men are logical. I mean, just listen to yourself, how many chances are you going to give this guy? Your constant clinging likely wore out his mental strength. Give him some space and find yourself some productive non-thot hobbies that can make a man say wow.

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Sorry, but never marry a “devout” christian. Spent the first 25-30 years of my life as one and have since gone the exact opposite direction, now an agnostic humanist who actually enjoys life. That kind of mind is just too confused with contradictions and lacking in identity to make for a good partner. Reconnect with him in a decade and see where he’s at. You’ll likely be much more fulfilled with someone else by then though, and he as well.

[–]Throwaway_rs001[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. I did find a lot of contradictions which is what pissed me off the most. even made me doubt my faith.

On one hand he wants to wait until he "gets a Yes from God" but he also approached me and got closed to me? I asked you should have waited for the so called confirmation and approached me then. Nothing makes sense.

Also the possibility that he will leave everything and go if someone prayed and told him this is not God's will is scary. (he said so)

I called it off last night. I am glad its behind me.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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