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Intro - Who is Patrice O'Neal?

Patrice O'Neal was a big fat black comedian who knew women like no one else. Before TRP even existed, Patrice was spitting hardcore RP truth. I'm writing a series on his work, and will break it down for you. Each entry will be accompanied by audio/video. Most of this is relationship focused, but plate theory will enter now and again.

This guy needs to be known by anyone who spends more than a minute on this sub. Look forward to introducing anyone and everyone, and showing fans some of his more obscure stuff over time.

Here is the audio we are breaking down today (YT Link)

As soon as she knows you will righteously leave, she will righteously stay. They can't help it.

Patrice was dealing with a caller who said "I was the biggest muthafucka" to his girl in the early days, and she "gave him the best treatment", but "the minute I decided I wanna try and settle down and 'treat her right' she started acting like the biggest bitch."

What's going on here? Simple - what we are programmed to think is correct treatment of women kills their attraction to us. 5 minutes on the sidebar can tell you listening to what women say is a death sentence for your dick. 5 weeks of accidentally doing it can fuck up a 5 year relationship.

We do this because we are subconsciously pedestalizing the pussy. Let go of "good and bad" and focus on what seems right to you. When you have frame control and she knows it, she will treat you right. If she doesn't, you leave!

I told my girl she's the 4th most important thing in my life

Patrice told his girl the following order applies:

  1. Me

  2. My Career

  3. My Mother

  4. My Girl

"It's not an attitude thing, it's a belief thing."

You have to truly believe in this order of operations. Number 3 may or may not apply to you.

After that truth bomb (surely prompted by some comfort test) Patrice's girl doubled down by explaining she put him ahead of everything - family, career, EVERYTHING. His response?

"Oh wow. Thanks."

Couple of things to take away here. Never love anyone more than yourself. In the moment aka "right now", she really thinks she loves you. It's why we tell guys to add the phrase "right now" to EVERYTHING she says to you. She really believes it....until she doesn't.

The woman must be more emotionally invested than you in the relationship. Period. Treat that as law.

If you don't talk to bitches, you lose the ability to talk to bitches.

The Commandments of Poon (which can be found via Google or sidebar) number 7 said "always keep 2 in the kitty". I'll quote a piece of it:

A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card.

Never be a kept man. That does not mean never be in an LTR, it means never surrender your balls. To get the best from a woman, she needs to KNOW you can get more girls.

Dread is all about her understanding your value. For her to understand, it needs to be prevalent. You are gaming girls because it comes naturally to you. It's not a trick, it's not a show, and it's certainly not contrived. Start treating every attractive girl like a prospect and see where it takes you.

The power that you have is the power I let you have.

All bad behavior you experience in your relationships is your responsibility. And your fault.

Your girl acting up? You permitted her to do it. If you acted up for even a few weeks, she'd branch swing.

Understand you need to hold her to the same standards SHE WOULD FOR YOU. Women are naturally better at having standards in an LTR. Copy that behavior.


  • If your girlfriend left, you can always replace what she was giving you

  • Treating your girl like an equal who will appreciate your "niceness" is the path to losing your girl

  • Always put yourself first

  • The ideal relationship is where she is desperately in love with you, and you just like her

  • Women's power in the relationship is all about what you allow her to have. Don't give her anything she doesn't deserve.

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[–]Onidramon 251 points252 points  (7 children)

Patrice dropped more fucking raw value in just a few hour-long segments of him simply talking shit for free than every single “dating coach” on the Internet ever has and ever will with 100+ hours of their ongoing edited content and shilled 1-on-1 consulting bullcrap. Point blank. Archive all his stuff, apply it and repeat and you’re set for life.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten[S] 86 points87 points  (4 children)


I've said before and will say again that I will always write for free. This is my way of paying Patrice forward.

[–]Kingern 25 points26 points  (3 children)

I've said before and will say again that I will always write for free.

Commendable, and thank you. I couldn't blame you for charging if you wanted to, but one thing springs to mind;

Society brainwashes bluepills and women for free

[–]Variatiion 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Technically a lot of advertising dollars are spent on selling the blue pill dream to both sides.

[–]Reformed65 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're the ones printing the dollars.

[–]BBsquat4me 38 points39 points  (0 children)

What strikes me about a lot of the content here is that it's straightforward, logical and down right common sense. Most of us are here because we've been conditioned by all of the BP/politically correct crap going on. Also there's only so much theory you can read, the most important thing about self improvement, especially game, is putting yourself out there, learning from your mistakes/success and moving on.

[–]anal_conundrum 114 points115 points  (1 child)

Spot on man. One more that I’m sure most veterans here have seen is the “fish” story. Highly recommend to any new guys to really drive home a lot of your points even more


[–]Cheddar_Curtain 59 points60 points  (0 children)

His catching fish metaphors really nail it.

Regarding women:

"They still gotta know you can catch fish, so they ACT RIGHT" Women are typically on their best behaviors when they think you could get snatched away by someone else. When they know you're whipped and don't have any options is when you lose all your power.

[–]Hamlet_Prime 56 points57 points  (1 child)

I am so sad Patrice is no longer gracing this earth.

Lately I listen to a lot of O&A for Patrice’s commentary on that talk show and urge you guys to check it out too.

Sometimes I question if RP reddit founders were just big Patrice fans because it is often, straight up in-line with his dialogue. I’m glad you’re doing this series.

[–]TheRedPillRipper 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I am so sad Patrice is no longer gracing this earth.

I am not. He's left a legacy. Regardless if this sub's shut down; TRP Red is still running. He'll have a prominent place there for as long as men need answers.

I'm grateful I found Black Phillip when I did and all he contributed to my success. Paying it forward is my way too of ensuring his legacy lives on.

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]Linoran 89 points90 points  (7 children)

  • The ideal relationship is where she is desperately in love with you, and you just like her

This is true but also very sad.

[–]Protocol_Apollo 43 points44 points  (4 children)

It’s only sad because you were fed the LIE that men and women should be and are equal.

They never were equal and never will be.

We each have different:

  • roles
    • sexual strategies
    • attributes that are attractive

[–]R178 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It’s sad because that would be much better. You have just like someone or hide unconditional love to keep her instead of living happily. Its cuz it should be better but!!!! No truth was ever comforting, reality is always better than make believe.

[–]TurdFerguson812 10 points11 points  (1 child)

As a man, I don’t think I’m capable of “unconditional love” for anyone other than my children. I used to think, before my divorce and finding TRP, that I was. And I think I’m better off this way. I have an LTR that I do love, but I also know that she’s completely replaceable, should her actions ever make that necessary. So I don’t consider this sad at all. YMMV

[–]R178 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I totally I agree with you in this.

[–]CuntQueefBalloonKnot 75 points76 points  (10 children)

He's one you really wish was still around. It's a shame sugar was more important to him than life.

[–]Dilpil01 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It's such a shame, because I'd love to know what he thinks of modern society. We've gone downhill big time since his passing. He would've had so much material to use.

[–]good_guy_submitter 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Roll the dices on your vices, or dont and live.

[–]PandaLitter 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Why was he so overweight?

[–]hammerhearth 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Depression from understanding women

[–]marv86kw 0 points1 point  (2 children)

One effect of not having pussy as #1, you just dgaf about some things.

[–]frooschnate 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Nah that’s bullshit. Caring about your health is for you and yourself only.

[–]marv86kw 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Health should always be #1, sadly its hard to keep it from becoming #2 at times.

[–]SerendipitySociety 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Hell, my mates are more important than my girls.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Number 3 (his mother) may or may not apply to you.

A lot of people reading this will not be familiar with Patrice, so I want to point out an example of why his mother was so important to him.

When he was a teenager, him and some of his friends ran a train on a girl. A set of events happened where he ended up accused of raping the girl. In response to this, his mother put him into the trunk of a car and had him sent away somewhere until they could figure out what the fuck was going on.

He later did a small amount of prison time over this, but it would have been a whole hell of a lot worse if his mother didn't do what she did.

If you search for this on YouTube, it'll come up with a clip that's about 36-37 minutes that's him telling this story:

the greatest story ever told on radio

It's a great listen.

[–]Goddamnhologram 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I remember hearing this and was so amazed that someone could share such a personal story with the public knowing the potential fallout to his career, but Patrice was such an honest person which made his material more art than comedy.

[–]CabbagedDaughter 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Getting over a LTR. This helps keep my frame.


[–]MrBowick 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The girl he argued with was truly attracted to him by the end.. fucking hysterical. And dagum didn't hear one wrong thing out of his mouth.

[–]mrbasic- 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Post is absolute gold; a lot of value/insight. looking forward to more posts like this.

[–]oldchunkofcoal_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

looking forward to seeing more of the series

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You are free from a thing precisely to the degree that you do not need it.

[–]TheGweatandTewwible 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Love love love Patrice. He's a celeb that truly hurts my soul to not have around anymore.

R.I.P. the GOAT. Listen to his "Black Phillip Show". Hilarious and insightful

[–]Zech4riah 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Pre-requisite for all this. Always be willing to walk away. If you are not, your frame will break and the relationship will be doomed or atleast doomed to be unhappy.

Had to walk away once again today because the girl gave me ultimatum (after 3 months of seeing each other). Basically she said the usual: "Stop seeing other girls and get exclusive with me or we are done".

Needless to say, I couldn't promise exclusivity, not especially after only 3 months but I also left the door open for her if she wants to contact me later when she realizes I've called her bluff - altho this was a proud girl so she may never crawl back.

[–]Domebeers 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not related so remove if you want,

Patrice in montreal and some women heckles him, he goes something like "do you think anyone wants your alligator pussy". Cut right to her value.

[–]__Archaeus__ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is awesome.

Also, check out ‘The Beige Phillip Show’, by Dante Nero. He was Patrice’s co-host on The Black Phillip Show, and now carries the torch with his new show. He and Patrice we’re really tight. They would chat about girls for hours.

[–]freemale101 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The confidence and re-assurance that I've got a female body (that I hardly ever use) on tap and a female's mumsy re-assurance and ideas input (risky sometimes)--all without me having to try anymore or live up to something.

[–]throwlaca 5 points6 points  (1 child)

>The ideal relationship is where she is desperately in love with you, and you just like her

That's how you get your dog poisoned.

[–]chadchadovsky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Patrice was 1 in a million. So much ahead of his time. Some of the things he said are controversial even now on /trp but I think in the next few years we gonna see he was right about almost everything.

Rest in peace you magnificent bastard.

[–]1Self-honest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, I just re-watched this video like 4 days ago. I revisit Patrice at least once a year for a refresher in attitude. He’s the best.

“Two in the kitty” is the most important commandment by far. I have a secret “two in the kitty” handshake with my boys when we’re out hollering at random bitches - to keep the mood light.

Awesome post. Looking forward to more from this series.

[–]independent_rooster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

great guy. if someone wants to really understand what frame is, listen to his "black phillip show" episodes. strongest frame ever.

[–]deterlaettis[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Patrice was my mentor when I journeyed from hell back to reality. The Black Phillip Show and 130 times he was on O&A, amazing insight and a truly inspiring man.

[–]Elephant_777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Patrice O'Neal was a fucking G. It's such a shame he is gone.

[–]WarezMyDinrBitc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have you listened to all the episodes of the black Phillip show? I think I am up to number 9 and the info has started to wake but it is all great.

[–]deterlaettis[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multiple times, takes some time to get used to his way of understanding and see his perspective

[–]MrAnderzon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ready for the next breakdown

[–]C2074579 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patrice is the man. I never tire of listening to him.

[–]notadaddy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My dad was an abusive asshole to my mom, and she was a butch to us kids (shit rolls downhill)

Destroyed self esteem and seeing this extreme led me to being overly sensitive and nice in my relationships

Fortunately now I see there is a middle ground where I don’t have to get walked all all over and shit and I’m just indifferent instead of being an asshole. Red pill rage is hell of a drug.

But of course https://tenor.com/zzqn.gif

[–]kinmin3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slamming free pussy whenever I wanted, easy amswer

[–]McVaghunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent redpill points but you're using them to achieve a bluepill goal. I mean, why wait for your gf to leave to replace what she was giving you when you can spin plates and have more of what she's currently giving you? Because you can't.

There's a reason the sidebar has "How To Tease, Train and Manage Your Bitches" and not "Your Bitch"... smh

[–]ShotgunTRP -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Dont forget patrice was ADMITTEDLY a fat blue pill poetry reading incel before his buddy dante nero (beige philip show) showed him whats up

[–]deterlaettis[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Patrice had an epiphany when he was in Brazil paying for love & pussy, he realized that he could accomplish the same things home if it was righteous that he wanted it.

[–]Managicall -14 points-13 points  (5 children)

"Treating your girl like an equal who will appreciate your "niceness" is the path to losing your girl"

Equality is gross, marginalizing her worth as a projected extension of yourself is some creepy queer stuff. Lacking the omniscience for true object permanence means you are only human, but failure to rationalize the nature of things unseen means one is insane with nothing to contribute to the collective knowledge of humanity and the experiences therein.

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[–]modTheRedPike[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do you ever come here for a reason other than to shit the place up with comments?

[–]Managicall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Complain to OP they quoted it and I think its a very accurate comment. I just got done listening to several lectures by this Pratice O'Neal. Now to apply it, because redpill is more than just talking shit its walking the walk.

If you don't agree with the thread then feel free to lock it, but I hope you will provide an explanation. As for keeping the place clean why not set a minimum post limit so these kneejerk reactionaries whom want to throw an indecisive bitch fit have to struggle to put some thought into a post. I wouldn't want to trouble you as others might mistake your ad hominem line of questioning as white knighting.

If you don't mind me asking, what was so disagreeable about my commentary? Any words in particular that stand out? All the great literary works have been greatly vandalized in recent years and I really don't read anything new on the subject matter.

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