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DISCUSSIONGender Euphoria (self.RedPillWomen)

submitted by PearlSunrise

Ladies, have you ever had a moment that made you feel joyful in your role as a woman? What about a specific routine? An outfit?

I feel like I hear about femininity only when people reject it, and it would be so encouraging to hear stories of moments where you individually have embraced and enjoyed your femininity.

Thanks much! -B


[–]KittenLoves_Endorsed Contributor56 points57 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That feeling when you slide into bed with freshly shaved legs. How many men will ever get to experience that pure bliss?

[–]StealthyBeeping1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've shaved a few times, and yeah it does feel pretty good to lay in bed or put on pajama pants on shaved legs, but it takes an hour to shave and I'm lazy.

[–]dashdotdott19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Shortly after I gave birth to my second child, at home by accident. It was very much a "I am woman, hear me roar" moment once it hit me what I had done. It is the most empowering thing I've ever done.

The second time I did that (yes, I have had two unplanned homebirths) was also empowering but not as much as the first. Not sure why, considering the second time around my husband barely made it in time to catch the baby and the EMTs were like 5mins behind him (the first unplanned homebirth had my husband, my mom, the doula, and half a dozen EMTs in attendance).

[–]Wolfssenger4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Diminishing returns; it's universal in human psychology. Happy cake day.

[–]peacocktoast0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gosh, TWO unplanned home births? Your uterus has a mind of its own!

[–]healthyelegant29 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Having a vanity to do my skincare, makeup, and hair routine makes me feel so feminine. I just get to sit, relax, and take my time with it.

[–]togiek7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I started trying to do face masks twice a week to improve my skin and it's so nice! I make sure it's a time to close my eyes, lie back, and relax. Not only that, but my face is starting to clear up a bit.

[–]Sobinia9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The moment I bought better-suiting, feminine clothes that I used to avoid, looked in the mirror and, for the first time in my life, I didn't see an ugly tomboy.

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor32 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

NSFW stuff, nursing babies to sleep, preferential treatment (it's dwindling a bit post-wall but not entirely, some people will just be nice because you're a woman, bless them ♡). Swimming, dancing. That instant bond you sometimes get with the only other woman in a company of men. When little kids aren't scared of me despite me being a stranger. Twirly dresses. The look of approval on his face when I look my best. The satisfaction of a clean kitchen. The pride and satisfaction of having produced a real life brand new tiny human being.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, giving birth. And pregnancy. Feeling the baby move inside you and being two people at once is pretty special. I loved being pregnant.

[–]AngelFire_3_1415615 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever my captain treats me like a princess.

[–]wymone6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lipstick! I really love lipstick. Bold red-pink was a favorite this summer, and can’t wait to dig into my bricks, berries, and burnt oranges this fall.

[–]aussiedollface26 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When I wear clothes that accentuate my small waist! My hubby and other men treat me much more like a lady I find haha. xo

[–]Foxy_lady_960 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What are some good clothing choices to accentuate a small waist?

[–]Allamericanblondie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good question

[–]megurogirl7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love ironing my fiancé's shirts just the way he likes them, with the sleeves folded over three times. I don't know why it just makes me feel closer to him.

[–]ApartPersonality1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Putting on makeup and a thoughtful outfit that makes me feel good, with jewelry. Makes me feel confident and ready to take on the world.

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Gender is about what you are, not how/what you "feel" you are.

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your role as a woman?

I enjoy doing both "feminine" and "masculine" things because doing such things don't make me any less of a woman, nor does it mean I'm "trying to be a man" by doing them.

I truly despise this "gender war" culture that many people seem to promote. People have this crazy need to cram everything into false dichotomies. You're not a man-hating feminist just because you prefer not to conform to whatever "traditional roles".

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moments where you individually have embraced and enjoyed your femininity

  • Better pain management. 2019 study

  • Better physical flexibility. 2017 study

  • A lower resting metabolic rate, resistance to fatigue after exertion, and a faster recovery time, compared to men who do the same thing I do. Something related to endurance vs strength (I just know how it pans out in practice, not too clear about the "why"). 2015 study

  • And of course: not having sexual organs hanging outside my body and getting it caught in things. Reddit example

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor6 points7 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I love you a little bit 😁

I take joy both in the physical and the cultural aspects, personally. But I see your point.

EDIT: and so many downvotes for making such perfect sense. I seriously don't get it!

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I take joy both in the physical and the cultural aspects, personally.

And you rock it! And yeah, my point doesn't diminish the validity of yours, it just expands on the topic (physical perks that are innate to people who are born female helps baby-making too).

Your ability to understand this is why I love you (but patting isn't allowed here, so just take my heart: <3 )

so many downvotes

haha I was hoping for more, actually. Generally, my posts tend to upset peevish/confused men the most, and plenty of them lurk here (because our awesome mods have put them in read-only mode :p).

I guess this particular post could also offend the few MtF trans who wander in here, but what I said was intended for women who are the career/athletic types like myself: you're not doomed if you don't conform.

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I think you can pat as long as you don't pet, I always thought one was more of a repetitive downward motion and the other more of a stroking thing?

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

As far as I've noticed in common usage, petting is for animals (including unicorns) and if it's referring to people, it implies treating them like how you'd treat an animal. Patting refers more to people and non-animals, like patting down cookie dough in a pan :D

There's the "spirit" of the rules, and there's being technically correct, but this particular rule is quite open to interpretation. Not only is it based on a metaphor, it's also paradoxical, since the (T)RP definition of a "unicorn" = "doesn't exist" (while the dictionary definition is "extremely unusual, if not impossible to find/get").

But at this point in our conversation, we might as well get a room :p

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

A room for linguistics? 😜

Spirits are flighty, mythical things, too. Pagans like me tend to dance with them 👻

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

lol Speaking of linguistics.. and going back to the thread's topic:

I wonder if people here mostly stay within limited social bubbles, since nobody has even implied awareness that "Gender Euphoria" is a transgender term (anyone who mingles with liberals would know this). Since this sub is, as you've put it: "a safe space for sexism", I find this most amusing, as a bisexual non-tradcon :p

For those lazy to google:

Gender Euphoria: The feeling a trans person gets when he/she/they are able to start presenting as the gender they identify as and people start treating them accordingly.

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So I replied and then things went wrong and now I'm busy but this is interesting but kids need me

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Okay so I actually just thought someone reversed the gender dysphoria term for fun there. Personally I do hang out with all kinds (from right wing extremists to muslim converts and I actually know an IRL transgender), but IRL conversations tend to centre around kids and food and gossip for me. There's just no time to really talk with littles underfoot! And online I get kicked out (or I leave when they censor me) everywhere lol.

But to hijack a term like that for the rare few transies out there seems stupid. I definitely had a spot of gender euphoria upon hitting puberty. Puberty itself sucked, but it was such fun to be a pretty young woman - everyone just wanted to give me things and help me and look after me. The guys finally noticed me at long last. Or maybe we need a separate term for being approached like a pretty woman instead of just a woman? I learned the truth at 17... (song ;-)).

I hope you're not implying I'm tradcon BTW. I'm retro, big difference!

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

implying

Surely you know I don't do such things :p You wouldn't be endorsed if you were tradcon either (just FYI :p).

If women need to conform to "gender roles" to be considered a proper "feminine woman" (femininity/gender is determined by behavior and dress code), then:

  • Gender is a social construct (not determined by biology), and consequently:

  • Trans = RP-compatible (and people wonder why trans women wander into this sub lol)

I identify as a robot, so I only process measurable facts. Anything that isn't evidence/results-based is just entertainment to me.

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But to hijack a term like that for the rare few transies out there seems stupid.

Words can be weaponized in mass media (broadcast, advertizing, internet, print/press, public speaking, etc). People try to control this with censorship and acting like the Thought Police.

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being approached like a pretty woman instead of just a woman?

If you're born a woman without any deformities, and you look healthy (ie: physically fit) and well-groomed (having good tastes also signal "high quality", so wear clothes that make you look good, and don't let the clothes wear you), you're automatically pretty enough, even if you don't think so.

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You identify as robot, I identify as glorious. Let's morph into one and we'll be Optimus Prime! :-D

So you've got inside info on who pulls the badgey strings and why... 🤔

Gender is not a social construct. But that doesn't mean you can't play the socially constructed cultural roles to your hearts content, regardless of your anatomy, does it? And I think it's more of a brain-thing than a privates-thing, so it's entirely possibly for someones brains to be more like a womans (and thus their thinking and feeling). Still, from what I hear about trans suicide rates, it seems the dysphoria isn't caused by but rather projected at their gender. Otherwise a simple snip-snip ought to solve everything? But I can't say I'm up to date on the most reliable stats (or well-informed).

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh and - yes to being a non-deformed healthy young woman being enough for perks. But I got more. I was aware of the perks and encouraged to enjoy them. I always got much more of those perks because of that. I smiled, dressed up. I looked great. Many teenage girls mope about and neglect themselves (less so nowadays, it seems, though).

Thought police is stifling and scary. Lots of Lilliputians work together to tie down the giants in terms of minds. Very red Khmer.

[–]your_cat_is_ugly_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I'm spending my husband's money. If I were a man I wouldn't have another man paying for all my stuff.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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