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The Stages It Took For Me To Process and Accept AWALTField Report (self.askMRP)

submitted by tom-anonymous

I think the hardest part for a blue pill guy coming to red pill by trauma of cheating is grasping the true meaning of AWALT.

I experienced the following stages when trying to understand and accept AWALT.

Stage 1 - Anger At Her.

How could she have done this. She was my unicorn. She has no integrity. She lies. She’s a backstabber and she’s rewriting history. She was willing to give up so much for so little. She didn’t own it. All women are bitches and whores.

Stage 2 - Anger At Self.

I understand she did this because of AWALT. I was a faggot pussy who created the situation for AWALT to cultivate. I will try and fix this by following the side bar.

Stage 3 - Anger At Self and Her

At this point you read many reddit users giving advice to next her and move on. You are still processing these instructions through a Blue Pill lens, so the following code does not compute. “If I was a faggot pussy who created the situation for AWALT to cultivate, then why should I next her instead of giving her another shot?” DOES NOT COMPUTE => Either AWALT is my fault, or it’s her fault. You can’t have it both ways. Or so you think.

Stage 4 - Acceptance

You realize you can have it both ways. Yes you were a faggot pussy who created the situation for AWALT to happen. However once it happens, the damage is done because it will never be the same.

If you stay, you will never go a day without thinking about it.

If you stay, you will have to add 10 times more weight to that frame you hold everyday just to co-exist with her in the same house. It never goes away no matter how hard you try.

If you stay, you will always wonder if she will flake out again next time you don’t show her attention for an extended period of time.

If you stay, you will lose your self respect. You will look in the mirror and see a guy who is married to someone who cheated on him.

If you stay, she will lose respect for you even through she desperately tells you otherwise.

If you stay, every time you look her in the face while you’re fucking her you will think about the time she was willing to give herself to another married fat fuck in your very own home (and how little attention it took to get her mind to the point).

Stage 5 - Understanding AWALT Is Relative

You’re lifting and getting bigger. You’re focusing on your mission and career. Your voice becomes richer and deeper because that’s the voice you were meant to use.

You begin to notice other women giving you IOI’s and it’s exciting at first. Then it becomes rewarding when you realize it’s no longer a big deal.

You eventually understand that the power that took control of your wife is the same exact power you have with other women. As long as you follow the sidebar.

You stop thinking about whether or not you should stay, and you start thinking about what it’s going to be like when you leave.

You start planning for your own future that doesn’t involve her.

You then realize AWALT is relative. It’s relative in the way women evaluate the value between two men. It’s relative in the way women evaluate how they feel when they’re in the company of one man verses another.

You stop thinking AWALT as a zero sum game. You start seeing it as an unlimited number of interactions with no end to the number of transactions you can try. Each interaction is a chance to become better than you were yesterday.

I have a long way to go, but I couldn’t have done it without you guys. Thanks for reading.


[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

TL;DR. If a woman cheats on you, dump her immediately

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Scorched earth baby. Don't look back

[–]tspitsatgp10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Stage 6

You accept that it happened and that it was all your fault, but also realise that the fact that it happened is unacceptable, and incongruent with who you are today, so you GTFO.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes. It was a hard lesson for me to learn. It was difficult for me to understand at first that both things can be true.

[–]tspitsatgp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Took me the best part of 18 months. But I don’t regret the time spent, it was what I needed to re-build myself.

[–]waitshhhhhh 1 points [recovered]  (19 children) | Copy Link

Has there ever been a post about a man who cheats... who likes to go out and get a little plate on the side... or is it just women who cheat because “AWALT” and all that shit?

I mean there seems to be a lot of efforts to game random women to get numbers and “develop dread” but very little follow up. Just curious if guys who actually get laid by their wives (and others) actually discuss that.

Maybe there should be a sub for guys whose feet don’t smell bad or who aren’t in a DB w a starfish.

Because OP sounds like a broken record of what gets posted around here every other day.

Asking for a friend.

[–]RedPillGlasses-1 points0 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Fuck yeah man, I hear you.

I’m in a one sided open relationship, so I get gf sex as much as I want, and then a side girl once a week, and gf doesn’t get to fuck anybody else.

I’ve mentioned it before, but most of these faggots want to play pretend that she’s fucking Chad and his five brothers behind my back.

Except she’s not, because (currently) I own that pussy.

We are in a Dom-Sub relationship, so obviously I have more control than most.

I’ve been meaning to write a MRP article about how it works. It’s cuckquean, Stockholm syndrome, Dom control and good old fashioned game all rolled in together.

[–]hack3geRed Beret4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I’m inclined to call bullshit here....

If you were in a true dom/sub relationship she wouldn’t have even remotely questioned you about the nipple rings. I’m not even in one but my wife now naturally defers to me and she never questions anything and most of the time she annoyingly can’t have her own opinion until she asks me about it.

There’s something extremely incongruent about your posts and descriptions.

I also know jack shit about your lifts which is a minimum bar for any type of respect from me. Until that time I’ll just keep calling you a faggot.

[–]RedPillGlasses1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I’m not in a Dom/Sub relationship now

Obviously. It’s not like 50 shades moron.

I also know Jack shit about your lifts

It’s the internet, I could say I deadlift 800 pounds, no way to prove otherwise. But then you would have more respect for me?

I’ll just keep calling you a faggot.

You were going to do that anyhow. It’s called short man syndrome, and there’s no cure.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

The thing is I would be able to tell from your height, weight, supposed BF% and lifts if you were lying.

Getting defensive about your lifts is the hallmark of a guy who doesn’t lift and a guy who doesn’t lift 99% of the time here is full of shit.

I’ve seen your type before- a complete validation whore with a giant ego to boot and maybe a touch of actual narcissism.

You have a story about anything that comes up in a conversation as seen by every single one of your replies here because you have an innate need to feel better than everyone else and getting validation from them that you are special and important.

Let me tell you - you are not special, none of us are - your single mom live in plate isn’t the unicorn you think she is (I mean come on the fact that you even did this should be enough of an indicator that you aren’t RP) and perhaps some day you will post about why you are really here and found this place and maybe just maybe drop the ego long enough to make yourself into half the man you claim to be.

Until then I will not waste another moment of my time on you.

P.S. - Faggot.

[–]RedPillGlasses2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

giant ego

Yes

a touch of actual narcissism

More than a touch

isn’t the unicorn you thought she is

Went on 15 first dates, she was the best combination of hot looks, hot sex and great step mom I could personally find.

Could I replace her? Of course. But it might take me another two years, and I’d rather not waste that time.

post about why you are really here

Working on the post now, how to pull off a one-sided open relationship. It’s not easy, I assure you. That being said, if I can help men realize that it IS possible, then hopefully they’ll be less scared to demand blow jobs from their own harpy wives.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Please include your stats and your “gf”s stats.

I mean if you are Brad Pitt and your girl is a 3.5 limbed landwhale then maybe I could see it but honestly at that point why the fuck do you stay with someone like that. I guess the flip side is she could be damaged as fuck but then why be with someone like that.

I’ll wait for when you post something of substance.

[–]RedPillGlasses2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

39 yo, 5’11” 185 pounds, 16% body fat. I’m not giving you my lifting stats because the obsession with bench press, deadlift and squats on here is retarded.

I have a degree in physical therapy and maxing any of those exercises is shit on your body.

YES, those exercises are a good indicator of overall strength, but once you get above 1.5x your body weight, the benefit to your daily life is zero, while vastly increasing the chance of debilitating injury.

I will say, I do REPS on weighted overhand pull-ups with 10 pounds, weighted dips with 45 pounds, and incline dumbbell presses with 75 pounds each hand.

All of those exercises keep your joints in a normal plane of motion, without stressing your rotator complex or creating shearing forces on your lumbar spine.

Gf 34 yo, 5’2” 116 pounds, 34/28/36 (fake tits), ex-model. Nuff said.

I’ll wait for when you post something of substance.

Fair enough.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to exactly what I was talking about - this is why the first thing people are asked to post is stats.

You still dodged the lifts question - I’ve run 5x5, 5/3/1, nsuns, RPT - they all have one thing in common big fucking compound lifts.

If you had any type of fitness training you know the those lifts are king. They are actually more protective than not. Take squats for example, done deep with proper form they are the best thing you can do for your knees - you would know that as a physical therapist I assume. The 1.5x body weight is a guideline for bench - I deadlift over 2.5x my body weight for reference. If you are only deadlifting 270 see my comment below about being skinny fat. If you aren’t deadlifting see my skinny fat comment below.

You aren’t 16% BF - likely more like 20-25% - lets get real everyone over estimates that shit. You also have shit for muscle - likely skinny fat or at best just skinny. Your weighted pull-ups give you away. I did RPT sets this morning starting with 70lbs on my waist. For reference I’m 5’8” 190 lbs right around 11% as measured by a DEXA scan.

Your gf sounds hot - you should send me her number. Adjusting for age she probably outpaces your SMV by at least a point - you are not 2-3 points ahead which in all likelihood takes the one sided open relationships off the table.

I saw you owned some businesses - let’s see here, likely you make good money, your “gf” is a single mom of 3, you let her move in with you, her kids likely spend nights there so you have a decent sized house - I mean if walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s gotta be....a beta bux.

Faggot.

[–]RedPillGlasses2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is why I didn’t bother explaining anything to you.

I have a degree in physical therapy, your bro science about those “lifts being king” is retarded and false.

Your pull-ups are underhand, not overhand, changing the agonist muscles to the biceps, and allowing far greater load bearing.

The 16% body fat is accurate with dual hand and foot electric current, additionally averaged against a three point digital accumeasure.

We’re similar in SMV, both 7-8 depending on the day.

I have three kids, she has three kids, now we have six kids. I make $60k annual, far from beta bux.

In the end, none of this is fucking important, and this time we really ARE done.

[–]RStonePT[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We have verified Dom/Sub guys on speed dial, he's going to run his stuff by the mod team before he posts.

If he's legit, time will tell.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not going to lie I’m half wondering if that is a good idea for a new business venture.

1-800-DIAL-A-DOM

I’m more than happy to be wrong on this one but my bullshit meter is pegged with this faggot.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

DM me on that before you post it.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you want the jump?

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'll see.

[–]RedPillGlasses0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Will do

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of "ifs" and no real conclusion.

Are you fucking leaving or what?

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes

[–]lololasaurus1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When you are at the stage that you're imagining what it will be like without her you are intellectually masterbating.

Do it or don't.

Daydreaming instead of doing is low value and doesn't accomplish anything.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your statement is irrelevant because it assumes I'm not doing it.

Smart guys plan in order to minimize risk. Idiots jump off the cliff hoping for the best.

[–]RisingUpAgain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So much ego protection in all your comments.

[–]RedPillGlasses1 point2 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

“You stop thinking of AWALT as a zero sum game.”

I’ve read about half the sidebar. Can you expand on that or cite a reference?

I struggle with the ease and almost pointlessness of sex now. Just a math equation now, plug the right factors in, and you get what you want.

[–]red88lobster2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not pointless if you enjoy it .

[–]redwall921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a good practice to lift your head up from the grind and consider what you actually enjoy.

[–]rnsbrum1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Sex becomes pointless once you have an abundance of it.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Sex becomes pointless once you have an abundance of it.

Ironic, isn’t it? Perhaps That’s why women with beta men withhold it ... other than the obvious- lack of attraction to their faggot husband/boyfriend

I had sex with my wife an hour ago, and she said “I haven’t been fucked like that since I was a teenager.” For me, I was just having a more difficult time cumming for whatever reason. Still enjoyable, but not mind blowing. I get it whenever I want. I don’t know if I’d use the word “pointless,” but certainly some times are better than others. I adhere to the rule never turn it down, so probably 20% of the time I’m not even really in the mood, but I hit it anyway if she initiated.

I guess the point is, it’s a fallacy that women want less sex than men. If she doesn’t want sex because blah blah blah, insert the word “with you” after the word sex.

[–]RedPillGlasses1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think most accurate statement is that women’s sexual desires are highly cyclical and subject to their feelz. So sometimes less than men, sometimes more.

Also, “I haven’t been fucked like that since grade school” would have been a better reference.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

->I haven’t been fucked like that since grade school

True or not, probably never gonna hear it

[–]RedPillGlasses1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fight Club

[–]rnsbrum0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever considered the possibility that she is only giving it so much so that she can get pregnant?

[–]RedPillGlasses3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever considered that I have a vasectomy? What a gay question.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he was asking me, but yeah... that’s a question you’d see on dead bedrooms- about as BP as it gets

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no spoon.

[–]RedPillGlasses0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m starting to notice that. Perhaps the desire comes in waves?

I’m getting it 5-7 times a week from live-in gf, and I have a side girl as well, that is once a week.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Count 14 days after she begins her period. That's the magic day in my experience.

[–]RedPillGlasses0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, not her desire. That one’s easy and I use a period tracker.

Talking about my own desire.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's only a zero sum game if your eggs are all in one basket (marriage).

Otherwise once your value is high enough you are now a product that is sought after. Women only want the top 25-20% of men. They settle for the rest. When you have unlimited chances to score it's no longer a zero sum game. In other words, abundance.

[–]RedPillGlasses0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Abundance feels boring.

Any recommendations on books articles blogs etc?

I’ve read 3-4 books from sidebar, I believe Athol Kay MAP book would be best?

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No books I can recommend. I do like Athol. One day it all just clicked. To me abundance doesn't have to be exciting or interesting. Abundance can exist whether you take advantage of it or not. What's harmful is the opposite of abundance, which is scarcity. This is when you're not living life for you and you're doing it for the validation of others, especially women. The worst thing in the world is to feel you NEED a woman and you require her in order to be happy in life. Women are too emotional and unpredictable to depend on for your happiness. The secret is to be ok being alone and find adrenaline in goals and activities that will increase the quality of your life.

[–]gameoflibidos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't have to use abundance.

But you do have to have it sunk into your head/mind/soul that if you wanted to use it, you could. As long as YOU KNOW that without question, she'll know too and that's enough.

[–]Praexology0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Stage 2 - Anger At Self.

I understand she did this because of AWALT. I was a faggot pussy who created the situation for AWALT to cultivate. I will try and fix this by following the side bar.

You realize you can have it both ways. Yes you were a faggot pussy who created the situation for AWALT to happen. However once it happens, the damage is done because it will never be the same.

You seem to think that you are creating an environment for AWALT. Incorrect, AWALT with or without you being blue or red.

Being blue will just bring our the unsavory side of AWALT, whereas RED will bring out the pleasant side of AWALT.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yes, however AWALT is more likely to happen if you're a blue pill faggot who lives his life depending on covert contracts instead of increasing his own value.

[–]Praexology2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

AWALT is amoral and a non-value descriptor for how a woman acts. There isn't a positive or negative spin to it.

If you are a high-value man women will break their own boundaries for you because AWALT.

If you are a beta she won't try to do any of the relationship maintenance because AWALT.

I'm making a pedantic point about definitions because there are too many idiots here who start to confound basic definitions. It weakens the definition of the acronym.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I get it and agree. I think we are talking the same points just the other way around.

If you are a low value man women will break their own boundaries for another man because of AWALT. To reduce this possibility you become as high value as possible. By not doing so, you are creating an environment where AWALT is more likely to happen.

[–]Praexology0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Youre using AWALT as if you cant use it to your advantage though, which you can.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

"You eventually understand that the power that took control of your wife is the same exact power you have with other women."

Not at all. I'm not sure why you say that. It definitely is to my advantage as I state above.

[–]Praexology0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Holy cow dude, you are dense as a brick okay I will spell it out for you.

AWALT is an acronym for All. Women. Are. Like. That.

You're saying things like "because of AWALT" as if it's a condition or disease.

The term AWALT applies to any number of predictable behaviors that women do. That ALL women do. It does NOT describe a specific behavior that women do to men.

"AWALT" being more likely to happen . . . Well just write it out: *all women are like that is more likely to happen." I won't grammar police this. This is just an incorrect way of using the term.

[–]tom-anonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude you are autistic if how I use that bothers you.

[–]Praexology0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again, I'm not trying to convince you per what I said earlier. I've written this out so if anyone else were to read your post they don't get confused on the terminology that RP uses. It's a disservice to people just starting out to have arbitrarily defined terms.

[–]sainterosa920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called grieving it happens when we have a major loss in life cheating, break ups and divorce are up their with death and loss of career and health.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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