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[–]OutOfOranges[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

No woe is me posting.

[–]Nevidimka-55 points56 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Because virgin wife material is a fantasy and not what people want in real life. I come from a conservative back ground and I know quite a few girls who stayed 100% pure until marriage and I'll tell you one thing: the trp promise that it's easy for a girl to find a loyal husband if she's a virgin is a blatant lie. It was very, very hard for them to find a guy.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, most men just want to use virgin women to “deflower” them so they feel good about themselves

[–]Nevidimka-17 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Nah I think there's plenty who'd like the relationship. It's just that they don't realize that with that comes 1. Marrying young 2. Marrying quick, within like 2 years 3. Not having sex for all the time prewedding 4. Not having a clue whether she's really into sex 5. Preferably being a virgin yourself

There is ONE group of guys for whom this sounds fine and that's guys who are having 0 sex or even attention from women currently. Like, sure, they'll wait another couple years.

So it ends up with only the very least attractive of men being available to them. (And yeah sure, that super attractive truly religious Tim Tebow guy who does it all for Jesus, does exist but in our congregation that's like 1 guy for every 10 girls, good luck with that)

[–]shrivvette8080 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

That just sounds Christian to me.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Conservative = Christian in the West. Because the West used to be Christian.

[–]shrivvette8080 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not the only reason but sure.

[–]TripleBigspin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Right, so if you dislike abortion, want smaller government, are against PC moral panics and cancel culture, are anti-open-borders, etc, but happen to be an atheist you're really a libtard. Logical

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are not liberal then, but I don't think liberal is the opposite of conservative. Liberal is the opposite of restrictive.

[–]Why_Bernie_Won0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Radical centrist would be the term

[–]AverageToHotPink Pill Woman | Female Dating Strategy8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Men who want virgins are a red flag in themselves. What men prioritize in a woman tells you a lot about who they are.

[–]Citizen_of_Danksburg2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wholeheartedly agree. Every guy I’ve met that’s wanted a virgin has been a 100% genuine bona fide creep. I like what you have to say. What do you think men should prioritize in a woman?

[–]wellhellotherefellas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing wrong with wanting that if the guy is a virgin himself.

[–]AverageToHotPink Pill Woman | Female Dating Strategy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sure, but most of the men who want virgin women aren’t virgins themselves. Hypocrites.

[–]againstsinglemothers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are a hypocrite, non-kosher cunt

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't that quite littrally what they want, women that stand on equal ground and don't have 10 thousend cocks to pick making a potential husband feel inadequate.

I don't even care for that redpill shit but seeing this makes me think it's the right idea.

[–]Tomatoccino34 points35 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Oh darling, I’m going to give you some advice that my grandmother gave me: Men would fuck a lamppost if they thought it was giving them the eye. Men may come and go, but you have to wake up with yourself for the rest of your life; so be the best version of yourself you can be, but for you.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 8 points9 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I know that, which is why i stopped taking men leering at me as a compliment. That’s why redpillwomen are a joke- “high value” men are flimsy, and they’ll still fuck his secretary even if she’s a 4/10.

[–]azngirl76893 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

You thought was a compliment?? Good lord sweetie. That’s beyond naive.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 12 points13 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

i was like 14/15 at the time, still unattractive but got attention for being youthful. being ignored in school fucked me up and i craved attention from men, luckily i was sheltered heavily and never got into a relationship with older men

sometimes overprotective mothers are useful

[–]SaveRadioshack10 points11 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Woof, patronizing much?

All of these “darlings” and “sweeties” makes everyone stop reading what you have to say immediately.

OP, ignore anyone with this type of vernacular. Anyone who weaves it into their vocabulary tends to be painfully unaware. Also, “red pill” is fucking stupid. Anyone who is a well adjusted adult knows that obsessing over what makes them sexually appealing to other people is bonkers.

Just be a person, who thinks for herself, likes what she likes, fuck who she wants to fuck, and get on with it. Life is short, be happy with yourself and your actual interests, not a petty set of values and ideas catered to pathetic dudes who can’t tear their eyes away from pornhub.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I can’t stand sweetie. Don’t talk to me like I’m a fucking dog, i’m 5’9. Bitch is probably like 5’4 at the most considering she’s asian apparently

men love the most strangest of women, no matter how horrible they may be. No point to LARP as a stepford wife when he’s gonna fuck his mexican maid anyways

[–]AverageToHotPink Pill Woman | Female Dating Strategy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, now no need to look down on short Asian girls.

[–]azngirl76890 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m 5 foot 8 actually SWEETIE :) have a nice day hun and bless your heart.

[–]shrivvette8081 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there supposed to be a /s in some of the above comments? Am I missing something? And if you're lying why wouldn't you say at least 5'10" and tower?

[–]azngirl76890 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Since that little girl wants to play, I’m here.

[–]shrivvette8081 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Like I'm still missing the /s

[–]simplicity30000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

you replied to the wrong person

[–]Jathrowaway972 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I had the exact same experience growing up lol. My parents barely even let me go to supervised school events like basketball and football games. I learned early about the Virgin lie though. The exact same guys around me who would complain about hoes(even a body count of 1 would be enough to be a hoe) would call me childish and stuck up for saying I wanted to wait for marriage. That opened my eyes. Whether or not you’re a hoe or a prude is dependent on your willingness or lack thereof to have sex with the men in question.

[–]Bekiala1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I figured when I was young that if I had sex I was a whore and if I didn't I was a prude . . . at least someone would think this way about me . . . . . so I just decided to do what felt okay to me.

I really think there are many fine men out there. Also super young guys have nothing wrong with them that a bit of time and some personal failures won't fix . . . . same as myself.

Take care of yourself OP. Figure out the person you want to be irregardless of those around you and fight to be it . . . . .I guess I'm saying that a life well lived has its own unique pill . . . .that metaphor might not hold.

[–]Tomatoccino-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are a large minority of people who believe this.

[–]Tomatoccino-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m glad you’ve come to that conclusion. Now don’t hold on to the bitterness, but go and live your best life.

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (13 children) | Copy Link

Just do what makes you happy.

If you want to have sex, have sex. If you don't want to have sex, don't have sex. If anyone judges or disregards you for your preferences, fuck 'em. You wouldn't be compatible anyway

Just make sure you reflect a lot on how you feel and think about things though. And set boundaries to make sure you're not hurting yourself in any way.

The redpill doctrine is suited for those who want to follow it and who believe in it. Plus, the sub sometimes just looks like a lot of women deciding that the hookup culture isn't for them anymore, and it's their way of finding meaning to how they set their boundaries for future dating interactions

As a side note, everyone seems to appear happier but we will never know if they truly are. This goes for general life stuff

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

This post is total nonsense. "Do what makes you happy" is just an excuse to not think or introspect or make any decision other than the one you've already not fully thought through. Cocaine makes people happy lol. There are 100% no long term consequences to the decisions you make in relationships - human mating has no purpose other than immediate fake sex and happy chemicals - and you're a fool for thinking about anything other than what the current state of pleasure is and nothing else

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy Link

did you read

Just make sure you reflect a lot on how you feel and think about things though. And set boundaries to make sure you're not hurting yourself in any way.

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Those are ... not helpful, though. She's already thought about it clearly. You could provide useful information or advice she hasn't heard. Telling someone to "think" and all that other shit isn't ... useful, doesn't bring anything new to the table, and is an excuse to meaninglessly mumble about stuff and believe that those tautologies prove your point of view when they do not in any way. Your entire post is vague nonsense designed to make people think you support them no matter their actions because you have no convictions other than of people agreeing with you lmao

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't see how anything ive said here suggests that i have no convictions. All you can advise for someone's sex and dating life is that they make sure that they are emotionally healthy and not harming anyone else. ~You cant control or baby people~ And RPW in itself is just ADVICE. It doesn't dictate how women HAVE TO act. Thats up to them Youre probably the sort who gives up on giving people advice because you assume that they're asking to actually follow it

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

It's that you hadn't stated any convictions. All you have said is masturbatory drivel that SOUNDS like you're saying something but in reality agrees by default with what she initially believed.

all you can do is emotionally healthy and not harming others

This is a non sequiter though, we all agree with "people shouldn't do bad things". this statement however is bullshit because we all can agree that you shouldn't hide multiple partners and cheat and nobody ever finds out ... yet that isn't emotionally unhealthy nor harms others 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. All advice is dictates that you choose whether they have merit and to follow. You yourself told her to do several things, although those things are circumstantial and useless.

Yes I'm the sort who actually gives people useful advice like "don't cheat or go for simple pleasure" because I believe such thing is for marriage and children

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

troll

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Everyone I disagree with is a twoll

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

You are trolling.

It is emotionally unhealthy and harmful to others to cheat. Guilt, harming the trust of others, exposing people and/or yourself to potential STDs, etc.

You're probably the slow sort that requires someone to tell you step-by-step what to do and what not to do, and you assume everyone else needs that too

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

If neither party finds out ever, and no STDs are involved, it isn't - "emotionally unhealthy"? No, the guy with two gals enjoys it the entire time. "Harming others" they don't find out, so it isn't. It's still immoral though because one of them could have a more devoted husband lol

[–]LinguisticTerrorist-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I regret I only have one upvote to give.

[–]TheBookOfSeilAn ounce of Snu Snu is worth a pound of cure3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

The Redpill is not for women. It's for men.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

damn..... just like feminism.....

[–]TheBookOfSeilAn ounce of Snu Snu is worth a pound of cure2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A large portion of it is actually a response to feminism. Go fijure.

[–]nooblek0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

yeah, feminism is by definition sexist and only concerned about women. Feminists on top of that try to make it somehow wrong to oppose it by pretending to include men. Just read the wikipedia pages on feminism and masculinism (which would be the proper counterpart). Its sadly so bad and so much accepted by society that men just have formed other outlets, like redpill or MGTOW.

[–]plato00070 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

If you actually were friends with a feminist, you'd see how ridiculous what you're saying is.

[–]nooblek0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Real(tm) feminists would never be my friends because I am a privileged, white, male pig. But luckily I know a few to know how they think. The self-delusion is real, they think thjey are helping men but when you look at the actions and outcome.... no, no they don't at all.

[–]plato00070 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry to hear that. As a former privileged, white, male pig, all feminism really should be is you listening when you lack experience on issues that hurt women. It's pretty simple stuff, sorry you get into confrontations about this.

[–]nooblek0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had my fair share of exposure to feminism, I did gender studies at university and reading some "science" papers of feminists was really eye opening. Any man who preclaims himself a feminist must have a completely different understanding of feminism than what those papers represent otherwise he would resent it.

[–]plato00070 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Publicly talking about a woman's attractiveness was totally cool 2 generations ago, but it's problematic now. Feminism is responsible for this shift. Yes, it's difficult to understand how an innocent comment can turn into something awful, but just see things from a woman's perspective.

There's still tons of areas where women are treated like shit. Same with men, which is why liberation movements are important to humanity.

Maybe you felt attacked, when parts of you started being criticized, your innocence questioned. Your interpretation of being criticized will change over time though. If you revisit it with an open mind, maybe you'll see it differently. Feminism is just about consent and gender equality. I don't see how that's toxic to men.

[–]nooblek0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its toxic for everyone.

[–]theoracleofosiris2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Men having had their tradcon fantasies forcefully taken from them by feminism, inadvertently tasted the freedoms of the single life and found it better that the tradcon lie. Feminism has actually freed men.

There’s no going back young lady. There’s a reason why women have gotten more unhappy since the 1950s.

You are what we mgtow call a chameleon, an awalt. You’re not genuinely feminine or submissive but have tried to be so, as a means to extract commitment from a high value man.

You’re not to blame. True feminine women are products of intact families with invested fathers. Invested fathers exist only in a strong patriarchal society which uplifts men by encouraging and rewarding masculinity.

Might as well just enjoy being pumped and dumped by alphas now then settle for a beta provider simp before you hit 30.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

wow another wah wah stacy wouldn’t date me now you’re gonna hit the wall i hate women why didn’t stacy suck my dick i want secretly fuck my mother enjoy your cats post. never saw this one before aren’t men so original and truly innovators

btw you forgot i’m a pure virgin ♥️

[–]theoracleofosiris0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

And you’re surprised why no man will commit to you? Seems pretty self explanatory here lol

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

do you think i actually act like this in real life? do you think i say “bro” when i’m trying to attract a man? Use your male logic here, bucko

[–]theoracleofosiris0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re not as capable of hiding your vile personality as you think you are. Seems like the rest are telling you the same things too.

Good luck to you. I’m a semi retired, fit man in his 30s that have avoided marriage because I’ve seen too many chameleons like you. Fucked a few of your types and frankly, the sex wasn’t worth the crazy.

Better study hard, you’re gonna have to work for your money 😂

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i’m not crazy in the bpd way, i’m just horribly shallow and materialistic, which isn’t any good in bed. I haven’t even had sex but i would probably hate it in the long run. You’re delusional if you think that my “vile personality” isn’t easy to hide. On the internet, you can be a fit redpill man who fucked tons of chicks while irl being a pathetic balding man.

i hope your chinese ex’s got good chad cock, they deserve it

[–]theoracleofosiris0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt it.. Classic beta bux husbands after me.. It’s quite sad they’ve resorting to selling mlm products on their instagrams so I guess just beta but no bux. You might want to look into that too since you can’t even pretend long enough to trap one..

You’re really generous though, wishing things for strangers that you’ll never experience yourself.

Crazy AND bad in bed. Wow no wonder you can’t attract any man... You think you can hide it but your inability to attract anyone is proof. A classic trufemcel.

I feel sorry for you.. did you father touch you inappropriately when you were younger? Was your mother the timid wife who always looked away?

I always knew Canadian girls could be a little crazy but wow you really take the cake.

I could go on.. I’m retired and I have all the time in the world baby..

[–]ArchonourSexist8 points9 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Red pill women is pretty much bait for red pill guys, who will marry those girls when they are finished fucking plates, it is just gender reversal fun right?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

stacy fucks, becky bucks in action

[–]rus9384Misanthrope9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, both fuck, but Stacey gets commitment after the wall even if she had 50+ partners.

[–]LivBore923 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You're suggesting it's common for men to fuck hot girls in their 20s and and marry an uggo for her money once they're 30??

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

They don't marry Becky for money, they marry her because she's "wife material"

[–]ArchonourSexist2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I dont know for alot of guys but for me a wife material girl is the women who wont cheat on me(this is the hard part) , while being a good partner overall

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Which is fine but high n doesn't inherently mean she'd cheat. Hell, most women rack up their numbers in college when their self-esteem is low and they are too doormatty to say no.

[–]ArchonourSexist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I dont belive the myths about high N but it just makes me feel less exclusive, therefore not that special to care about- call it insecurity if you want- I would pick the ''good girl'' everytime for making of family

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, the good girl makes sense for a lot of reasons.

And btw, I get why you might be insecure about that but I don't think you need to be. Higher n people still fall hard IMO and you can still be "special" - actually even more so.

[–]Jathrowaway971 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not for money. For legacy. They screw around when they’re young. If they’re lucky enough to then settle down with the best woman they can find at the time if/when they’re ready to have kids and be monogamous.

[–]leftajarRational Behaviorist16 points17 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Who cares?

I saw your post in RPW and your replies. You obviously weren't interested in learning; you seem to have a bone to pick. Why else would you come here with your leading questions?

So, go be a whore. Go fuck all the fuckbois. Then you can indulge in your "there are no good men" fantasy. Just don't expect to be happy with the results.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 7 points8 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

bro i’ve hated men since forever and haven’t even fucked one yet, nor have i been molested. if anything my “there are no good men” fantasy has already been indulged in since i was an ugly femcel

[–]missile 1 points [recovered]  (15 children) | Copy Link

You might still be a femcel

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

in the way i haven’t had sex, yes. but i get some attention from men (my age) now, which doesn’t mean much.

[–]_robot-love_ 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy Link

Serious question: what do you want? What is your ideal? If you have a best case scenario for your life what is it? Bonus question what is the worst?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know what I want, at the bare minimum. To improve my social skills and attractiveness to a greater degree, and make money while in academia is the current goals.

best case scenario i am rich and hot, with kids i had via surrogate and are raised by a british nanny. i’m a brilliant mathematician who’s beloved by my peers and have affairs with young graduate students. i dress like fran fine from the nanny with big hair and shit. of course this is likely impossible, as i’m not a 9/10, and i hype up my math skills which will likely leave me broke.

worst case scenario is that i’m an overweight mother of two, living in suburbia with my middle lower class porn addicted husband, and i only get false joys out of drinking starbucks frappechinos and being a LulaRoe “Girlboss”, scamming other fat moms out of terrible clothing on facebook.

I’m not trolling. I’m just like this.

[–]MDMCrab3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you a math student presently?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

i apply next semester for university. i did well in highschool and prefer it over other STEM subjects (fucking hated chemistry), so it’s the only thing i’m interested in that will make money. i sewed for awhile which brought out the perfectionist in me, but being a seamstress makes peanuts and is not challenging once you learn to work the machine. I was going for business because of my dad but i realized that i would probably kill myself if i came in contact with marketing students. Can’t stand them.

[–]MDMCrab2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Academics don't always make money either. It will help that you're a female in a STEM field, but with tenure and everything else, it too can be a tedious and thankless existence. Since you're into sewing and math, perhaps there is a job or field out there that would allow you use of both skill sets?

The secret about working in marketing is that it's a waste to get a degree in that field specifically. Plenty of people get recruited for marketing jobs with no formal prior training in marketing.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i don’t really care about the female STEM experience, since the university i’m applying to is full of gifted chinese girls who’ll probably outsmart me in every single class, so i won’t be that special. I do fine in academics, but i’m no prodigy, especially at the level that STEM ladies are expected to be. I come from a line of professional people (my mother works in law, my father does real estate investments) so i’ll go into something actuarial at the worst. I looked at costume design since i’ve always done well in art, but once again it’s something that is penniless and hard to break into as someone who has zero to no film/art world connections.

[–]Bekiala0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know what I want,

Knowing that you don't know is a great start. Good thing you have stayed out of relationships so far. I'm a bit of an advocate of giving yourself time to mature and figure things out.

[–]missileBellum omnium contra omnes2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

In the way that you hate men the way incels hate women. They have their reasons, and so do you; I'm not attacking you for this. But you might want to consider some therapy. Or just trying to put yourself in social situations where you acclimatize to men, but not in a romantic context.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I get the advice, but i believe most psychiatrists are quacks and i got medicated for ADHD, which i just realized was a mistake and easily cureable once i learned to control aspects of my personality. i’ve dealt with men, i just don’t like ‘em. don’t have daddy issues, but my father has the emotional temperament of a woman rather than a man

[–]onlyindreamsx30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I def wouldn’t say most psychs are quacks. I think you def have to find the right one. Yes, men are trash but most of it is because they don’t realize their harmful behavior since it’s normalized by society. However, if you’re a straight woman you have to try to make the best of that and men can have their redeeming qualities.

I think you should just be in spaces and interact w men more. Try to find ways to be around guys that enjoy the same interests as you in a low pressure environment (clubs, meet ups, hobbies, etc). If you can meet and get to know men in this environment, it’s less shitty because they aren’t looking at you as someone they can bone instantly so they stand a chance of getting to know you first, especially since you have something in common. (I’m paraphrasing but these are all suggestions my shrink has given me on meeting romantic interests).

[–]LittleknownfactsAutomod is my husband[M] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't make things personal.

[–]MrsChiliadRed Pill Woman | Pro-Patriarchy12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You hate men and you’re wondering why you can’t get a good relationship?

[–]leftajarRational Behaviorist11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Okay, you hate men. Seriously, I can accept that.

But you should've said so at the beginning, instead of baiting out a bunch of honest replies from the RPW sub.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

just don’t like ‘em

[–]4gotOldU-nameAvoiding Kool-Aid as Much as Possible14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So.... you Reddit for sport? Why TF bother?

[–]Million-SunsMarriage is obsolete3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There are no "good girls" either. This is the red pill that we have to swallow.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

k good, we’re on the same page then

[–]Million-SunsMarriage is obsolete2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yep.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently redpillwoman has become a “plate school” from what I’ve heard, meaning they just cater to the male imperative. I wouldn’t listen to TRP on the matter - they too are only interested in the male imperative. Sorry to hear you haven’t had much luck though.

[–]Deadgirl18888 points9 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

I got banned for life calling out hypocrisy. Apparently as women we are supposed to play dumb and let the man think he is superior even if he is a train wreck.

[–]Five_DecadesKnows what women want. Knows he doesn't have it4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Try married red pill. Its laughable. A bunch of men who would cut their own cock off and shove it up their own ass if they thought it would lead to female validation. Men who are selfish assholes because they think it'll earn a woman's approval. Its a sad life.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Harsh lol

[–]Five_DecadesKnows what women want. Knows he doesn't have it3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Its true though.

A lot of PUA/TRP comes from desperately seeking female validation, usually due to low self esteem or having abusive/neglectful parents. Neil Strauss once said 80% of PUAs had self centered mothers.

Its a sad life. Guys who radically alter their appearance and personality to obtain external validation, become assholes just because they're desperate to obtain female validation which they will use as a band aid on childhood wounds of being abandoned and abused.

This is a good blog post on the psychology of PUA/TRP and how it relates to codependency issues.

http://therawness.com/reader_letters.pdf

[–]nooblek0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you are spot on with the validation seeking and root cause of it but I'd like to object. PUA/TRP is not just aimed at getting validation. Most guys I know that engaged in this stuff just desperately wanted a girlfriend, a connection, and be loved and yes of course sex. The problem standing in between that is that they doubt themselves and are insecure, which is not attractive. They weren't assured of unconditional love as kids and tried to mold themselves into anything that made their parents show any kind of love (validation) towards them. Unfortunately this behaviour of trying to do everything right so others (mom) loves me carries over into the adult life. And it tanks their game. They need tokens of validation all along the way and get easily worried and anxious when those don't come. Which is unattractive because they will get very needy. They have learned to closely watch every little sign and adjust their behaviour as soon as its met with disagreement. Unfortunately women looking for a mate, unlike the mom, do not want a man that just goes along with anything she does, says or wants. They also try to learn through other media what the correct behaviour is and soak up information from magazines, movies and such. The problem is that this information is mostly wrong.

PUA/TRP tries to break these learned patterns of approval seeking often without even trying to understand the causes. It offers other strategies that work better but they often go overboard, overcompensating. Every human wants to be loved but for those love starved kids it has to be spelled out or they will get weird trying to get it. Thats my take on it. Same story but less negative. To me its a crutch to relearn walking.

edit: oh boy, just reading the pdf you linked. really good stuff! he's completly right, although I think everyone is on a spectrum and not everyone gets turned into a narcissist by engaging with it. He states what the correct apporach would be for nice guys and theres definitely parts in pua that try exactly that: "make no excuse for your desires a s a man" for instance. Its not all peacocking and negs theres a lot of stuff out there that i would group in pua that addresses some of the self-issues.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 5 points6 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

yes. these handmaidens think they should bend over for the nastiest, bottom of the barrel man who treats you like shit while having his worthless children

[–]Deadgirl188810 points11 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

One post was so so sad. It was a newly married woman asking what she was doing wrong and why she hated married life. She and her husband were virgins she hates sex because it hurts her so bad ( dude just tries to jam his dick into her the only time she liked it was after a drink and he told her she wasn't allowed to drink). He doesn't let her see family or friends and seems like a narcissist.

The advice she got? Why are you so ungrateful?! Sex is supposed to hurt virgins! You need to show him you love him more!!! Find a good church!!

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s insane do you have a link?

[–]Deadgirl18880 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I can fjnd the Virgin one for sure. The ones about birth control are all sprinkled in there.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What ones about BC??

[–]FinchRosemtaActual Factual Ho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Drop the link please. I need a laugh to end the week.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] -1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

this shit is why my dream is to become a female patrick bateman, sans murder, because i already have the illusion of grandeur and obsession with rich material items

i can’t imagine being one of these women. a nightmare. literally a nightmare

[–]Five_DecadesKnows what women want. Knows he doesn't have it7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I checked your post history and saw you posted on a narcissistic forum.

Men with good personalities and options don't want to date or marry a woman with cluster B personality disorder.

Ironically, the kinds of women who fall for TRP tactics tend to be cluster B women. But usually its more histrionic or borderline women. The men on TRP try to develop sociopathic and narcissistic traits. Basically the red pill is men with cluster B issues and codependency issues trying to obtain validation from women with cluster B issues and codependency issues

Its no wonder you don't get along with TRP. Narcs and sociopaths tend to not get along with each other. You're a narc woman posting on a forum devoted to narc and sociopath men.

Either way, if this is your real personality I wouldn't worry about landing a decent guy. Best chance you'll get is a selfish rich guy who only wants a trophy wife, or a guy who is a bonafide beta (been abused all his life, codependent, etc).

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

you’re right but i can keep my personality feminine because i’ve been socially trained to. and there’s nothing more i hate than bpd women, which are what all redpill women are due to their obsession with submission and sex.

i do attract damaged men a lot, which i don’t really enjoy. i talked to a guy online because we shared the same hobbies, and he immediately told me about his visits to a psych ward/self harm stories. self harming is pretty common with bpd women as well, though a lot of these men are mildly sociopathic as compared to bpd women who are histrionic. the rich guy and beta billy would be fine as long as i had financial freedom

[–]Five_DecadesKnows what women want. Knows he doesn't have it4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Like I said, I think you'll be attractive to one of two types of guys.

  1. completely self absorbed rich guys looking for a young trophy wife (guys like Donald Trump). It won't be a marriage, it'll be an exchange. He gets your youth and good looks and you get his income. You'll both be totally self absorbed in the relationship.

  2. Guys who are deeply damaged and are unconsciously attracted to women who don't care about them or mistreat them.

If your goal is financial independence, you can get it via either channel. Although the second one is unethical. You could probably attracted a broken, codependent man who would happily turn over his income to you if you dangled validation in front of him.

Also I'm not talking about keeping your personality feminine. You seem to lack empathy or the ability to form meaningful emotional connections with people. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a narc or sociopath, or on the spectrum of one or the other.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

eh, calling myself a sociopath is laughable since i think i’m just a contrarian and mildly narcissistic (i’m also nearly 19, which is still edgy teenager territory to some people). i’m somewhat cute but def not young melania yet, maybe if i got a rhinoplasty or a boob job (i get compared to a young isabella rossellini or allison mack pre sex cult).

either way i’m just thankful i’m not a BPD woman. Everyone i’ve met with it is insufferable, at least i can keep my assholishness in check and only online

[–]SmurfESmurferson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My D cups didn’t stop developing until my mid-20s. Don’t get a boob job yet

[–]botrickbateman3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I flossed too hard this morning and I can still taste the coppery residue of swallowed blood in the back of my throat. I used Listerine afterwards and my mouth feels like it’s on fire but I manage a smile to no one as I step out of the elevator, brushing past a hung-over Wittenborn, swinging my new black leather attaché case from Bottega Veneta.


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[–]funobtainium1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good complexion bot.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

god bless

[–]Deadgirl18881 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I got banned for life in under 30 min lol. I got so many insults too it was great. They tried to say they weren't all conservative Christians and I was like OK I bet 90% of you are...

[–]Deadgirl18881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also giving awful misinformation about birth control to virgins who have no clue!!!

[–]tiger1296A little bit of both4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spoiler- those are not women

[–]Blonsomio 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

For every woman who participates in this, there’s a man who’s joining it as well

Wrong. Women just rotate the men they like. It's more like 5 women trying to lock down 1 man while the other men stay alone.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i live in an area where women outnumber men so i see short men with pretty girls all the time. chad isn’t even a concept to me

[–]Belfura0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because only morons on the internet are stupid enough to think that them being short is holding them back from finding a girl who likes them as much as they like her.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This may be why you’re having issues, OP. Behavioural economics is a real thing. In areas with a higher number of women, there is more demand for men, which allows men to get away with worse behaviour.

The opposite happens when men outnumber women.

I’d suggest going on holiday for a while or moving.

[–]ArchonourSexist-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you put it that way it sounds extremely depressing

[–]Shadow_Of_Chad-Lite5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Do you want men to be weak or strong?

[–]cattermelon34ADHD medication is a feminist conspiracy0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Weak and strong are relative characteristics. Is someone who punches anyone who makes fun of them weak or strong?

What you should be asking is "do I like the traditional idea of masculinity or not?"

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean they're relative just as much as everyone is. Someone who punches someone who makes fun of them isn't gonna go anywhere and is a retard.

What the hell is traditional masculinity? Seriously what is it lol

[–]cattermelon34ADHD medication is a feminist conspiracy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Masculinity (also called manhood or manliness) is a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles associated with boys and men

She like the vast supermajority of women is attracted to men. You'll have to elaborate here...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you just hate men. Why not go your own way? why try to marry?

I am a misantrope just as much, I am fine by my self. You could be too.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

i need the security of being a mother figure, and i’m not being a single mom in this current climate. plenty of womanhaters marry as well. you think trump actually appreciates (non fuckable) women as a whole while married to melania? please. and i’m saying this as someone who doesn’t even hate him that much compared to blue mark twitter harpies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Security? Where is that "security" you talk about? Also, aren't you quite young to American Standards? Here in Brazil we marry at 18 or 20. But from my knowledge, in the first world it is more common to marry way later in life. Why are you so bothered? Isn't it expected to fail some times, and more importantly, so early on the race?

I do not know about others, but my interactions with women are restricted to FwB. I wouldn't enter a relationship only for sex. No matter how much I need it in order to be fully productive. But I see what you mean, if I didn't have the option maybe I would do the same. But I see no reason for you to do it.

[–]pnadlerlaw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the problem is as follows:

  • Liberal men were 100% okay having sex with women regardless of their n-count or sexual history, and actually preferred a girl with some sexual experience and an uninhibited sex drive.

  • Conservative men transitioned from not being okay with having sex with women with a 0+ n-count, to being okay having sex with women with a somewhat moderate n-count, and were now okay with a girl with some sexual experience and a not so reserved or inhibited sex drive.

So, that only left extremely conservative men or very religious men as the market where “virgins” and “good girls” had any value.

Sneakers have no value to a man with no legs. Music has no value to the deaf. A professional yo-yo doesn’t have the same value to someone who doesn’t give a fuck about yo-yos. Would you pay $20,000 for a long range rifle with scope? Would you pay $300,000 for a boat? $900 for a saltwater fishing reel? $800 for a single golf club? Maybe you wouldn’t, but there is someone out there who would.

So the number of “buyers” for what these women were “selling” was shrinking rapidly, to the point where it was almost microscopic.

On the other hand, promiscuous women had less and less and less and less trouble finding men, and being in a relationship with those men, and getting married to those men, and having children with those men, and staying married to those men (if that’s what they wanted), or getting divorced and living their life with their children and her ex husband’s paychecks (married until death do us part is not every woman’s fantasy or aspiration).

So, if you’re born female, if that’s the dice roll life handed you, and you’re stuck competing with other women to maximize and optimize the “value” you can enjoy from a male partner, and the potential to obtain that high “value” is something that goes down over time (not even talking about a woman’s looks here; I just mean, “the good ones” start to become unavailable and taken) ... and you realize that you are selling to a very small and narrow market as a “virgin good girl,” which essentially means you suffer practically zero “penalty” for having sex and using sex to get what you want (i.e., zero or low cost).

That’s what creates a “race to the bottom.” (As a side note, this is all because of birth control, legalized use of contraceptives, legalized and safe medical abortion procedures). That’s what “allows” women to have a “zero or low” cost of offering sex. Before this, sex was extremely “high cost” for women. But now that it’s a zero or low cost concession, it’s kind of difficult to “compete” with other women and “not offer” sex when most other women out there are and the number of men who genuinely value “virgin good girls” is getting smaller and smaller.

So there’s nothing wrong or defective about RP theory for women. It’s just women building up their value to very conservative or religious men, (tradcon), and it absolutely works ... if you find such a guy. But if you don’t find such a guy, the reason it doesn’t work is because you’re marketing an $800 super professional ultra high quality high value golf club to someone who doesn’t give a flying fuck about golf.

There’s nothing “wrong” with that golf club. It’s an amazing and excellent golf club. It’s super high quality. But if there are 200 of them out there, and only 10 men who give enough of a fuck about high quality golf clubs to even be interested in paying $800 for one ... guess what, 190 of those ultra high value golf clubs will go unsold and remain in surplus inventory.

You can’t turn around at that point and blame the people in “product design” or “manufacturing operations” or “quality control” for poor sales. It’s not their fault!!! You’re blaming the wrong people. Those people did their job extremely well. You couldn’t ask anything more of them.

The people who fucked up were the executives who decided they were going to “produce 200 super high quality golf clubs.” If their goal was to waste time and resources, they succeeded. If their goal was to make money, they failed. If their goal was to maximize the profit on the time and resources available to them, they failed miserably. Maybe they would have been better off producing nutritional supplements, or 5 hour energy drinks, or coffee, or things with a market size of 2 billion++ people.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well it has become a mix of “kowtow to the male imperative in hopes of him picking you” and “here, have a trophy for wearing a dress today.”

I think it was more useful when it was about how to fulfill the feminine imperative happily, working with the male imperative. Any form of seduction advice for women that says to simply serve the male imperative totally is ineffective.

[–]dangernoodle88Purple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've found a lot of wisdom on RPW but also a lot of bullshit. There are so many TRP guys on that sub and like half of the mods are men. It's like we're not even acknowledging that female and male imperatives are at odds with each other, and thus male advice will be biased. I wish the sub leaned more towards catering the female imperative ONLY by applying red pill concepts, in the way TRP works for men. But there are men in there lecturing us that being RP means being a "good girl." There was recently a post about "why is hypergamy bad for women but polygamy ok for men" that got deleted. Because hypergamy is good for women and it gets us the best deal, but the RP men don't want us to realize that.

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why is it best for women? Same argument is that it's best for men - many partners for all lol

[–]dangernoodle88Purple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's just common sense to find out what the best your SMV could afford. Before commitments have been made, why should an attractive 20 year old settle and be submissive for the first decent accountant that comes along if she later realizes her SMV can also afford a hot lawyer who's more confident, better in bed, and a better partner? As long as she accurately knows her value and appropriately vets for commitment rather than sexual interest, it's in her best interest to find to best partner in her prime and then lock him down before her SMV starts to decrease. And it's also safer to not leave someone until you know you have someone better lined up. Obviously TRP/MGTOW guys hate this, "AWALT," because the man loses in this scenario and it's morally dicey. But from a purely red pill hard truth standpoint, it's the smartest strategy for the female imperative.We're evolutionarily hardwired to be hypergamous for a reason.

It's different for men because for many, their most selfish "ideal" is multiple women, not one best woman. But for a man seeking a committed relationship, hypergamy would make sense as well.

[–]insicknessanddeath0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If your goal is highest value mate sure. But if you want a good mate to have children with that presents a different scenario. The incentive to find a good mate is coexistant with the one to wait to have sex bc children, one to be monogamous, and one for your partner to be monogamous, and if those all were present things would be different. The existence of birth control and sex being not for children anymore for almost everyone has made it tougher for many to see the outcome and purpose of their actions

[–]tinysackbigshaft1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What is it you’re looking for? You never even said.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

the man i’m looking for is already dead and from the 1970s. realistically if i was born back then i would be lobotomized

[–]tinysackbigshaft2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you trying to make a joke or something

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

no. i would legitimately be lobotomized

[–]tinysackbigshaft0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok clear why ppl stay away from u fuckin weirdo

[–]-OpportunityCostI don't care about your problems2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Redpill wasn't made for women. It was made to help men understand how to beat the system we have in today's SMP. Why would any woman wan't to follow redpill philosophy?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

that’s the whole thing i’m asking. no fucking woman is excited to marry a man this day and age unless he offers something she doesn’t have

[–]-OpportunityCostI don't care about your problems4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean you could say the same thing about men. For a lot of people marriage is just what they were taught to do. Women will have alot of social pressure to get married when they approach 30+, especially when they are seeing all their friends getting married and having kids.

[–]Skuggasveinn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And the men are afraid to loose it afterwards. Than he has less to offer.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here’s a fundamental problem with the pillosphere. Too many people barking up the wrong tree. Just because RP and RPW are overrun with right leaning posters doesn’t mean they have the solution to your particular problem.

If you want a relationship with a tradcon man — one who actually wants a relationship and isn’t a shut in — you have to leave Reddit and go where tradcon men who want relationships congregate. Churches, conservative dating apps, etc. (IDK really know where else cause I’m not conservative.)

Same for tradcon men — if you want to find a tradcon woman to marry hanging out at the TRP water cooler isn’t going to help you. This actually the more egregious one because what about “learn how to spin plates” would ever suggest their advice would help you nab a virgin insta-bride?

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[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

me and tempy never meant for redpillwomen to be for single unattached women to learn how to girl or become some weird vision of a "Traditional woman". our vision was women who were married on in serious LTRs who needed help with the dynamics WITHIN their relationship to stop structural attraction issues and conflict. the red pill aspect was about how we understood male nature and what men wanted and did best with in terms of non bdsm, non bedroom power dynamics, it was NOT about fashioning yourself into some weird single red pill LARP fantasy of what a woman should be like accordign to what TRP says

this is why we left

[–]SmurfESmurferson3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

some weird single red pill

An increasingly foreign-based red pill, to add. You can tell who isn’t based in a Western country really easily, and that segment of TRP is growing quickly

Even less of a reason to take the advice, unless you live in one of their countries

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddits tag line should be "In my country..."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I get that it's not your problem but there is a problem of single women who don't understand how to get what they want (commitment), hence why they turn to RPW.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I dint think the redpill has a real answer to that, it's like men asking women what they want

GETTING a man isnt the problem, dealing with one is. Go to beauty forums to get one

[–]SmurfESmurferson10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You’re 18, you’re too young to have taken this stuff to heart. RPW isn’t “transform your entire personality into a docile, virginal version of yourself”

Here’s the real red pill: people are attracted to attractive, charismatic, fun people. This is true for both genders - we’ve all had that one friend who wasn’t the prettiest, but was never hurting for dates because she was just such a blast

Stop worrying about what you shouldn’t provide (sex), and start paying attention to what you should - be fun. Have fun, interesting hobbies. Workout regularly. Stay up to date on fashion and beauty. Learn how to banter and flirt

[–]Belfura1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The more I encounter these types on reddit, the more I believe you can't teach being an attractive person.

[–]SmurfESmurferson2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Seriously. It’s mind blowing

[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, and although looks certainly don’t hurt they’re not the be-all end-all. I’ve seen actual burn victims described as pretty.

[–]Belfura3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This post reads like it was written by a dude trying to get a raise out of people. If you are a dude, kudos for the effort you put into writing that.

If not, this would be one of the most awkward "lmao, femcel" posts I've seen on this sub.

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This post reads like it was written by a dude trying to get a raise out of people.

I'm surprised so many people are replying seriously tbh

This is weak bait

[–][deleted]No Pill5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I can see where they're coming from, but their advice is generally useless in 2019. Modern men don't care about things like submissiveness. In fact, I would argue that modern men would rather have a "mommy" to take care of them since they're generally lazy and indecisive themselves.

[–]tinysackbigshaft1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m super red pill but I can’t even argue against this. It baffles me how many of these wannabes wanna cuddle, hold hands, talk about their feelings and be validated by some chick. They just want a mother.

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

As a young, somewhat attractive virgin girl

Press X to doubt

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy Link

maybe by claiming no men are interested in her,, she just means no attractive men who give me butterflies are interested in her

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What does the redpill offer for girls, in a fucked up sex obsessed environment? I’ve put down my phone and learned hobbies, dressed feminine, and became nicer to men. None of this means shit anymore when so called “low value” women are getting relationships and having fun/not caring what men think about them. I’m not even ugly anymore, and i’ve grown out of being a femcel.

Young girls dont write like this. I write like this

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

true...

though it does sound like a typical femcel post. but then again, femcel subs are overrun by men

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

bro i want to fuck john belushi how much lower can my standards go then being constantly horny for a dead FAT comedian (who wasn’t even that funny) who died of an overdose, and was said to be an insufferable asshole to women

Hahahahahahaha

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

why cant he even TRY to fake it lol. also thank you for embarrassing me and my page :P

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

no, im female, god forbid a woman be attracted to unconventional men

[–]Belfura0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That still means that she's not attractive herself

[–]Texastentialismshe's got a tattoo and two pet snakes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's time to crack down on femcels the way we did with incels

[–]eliechallita0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You forgot one of the worst downsides of following the red pill as a woman: you could end up with a red-pilled man.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Young guys just wanna lose their virginity, they dont wanna religious GF who wont bang til marriage.

[–]MuleFool421 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Red Pill was never meant to benefit women. It's about men seeing how the real world treats them because they are men. Just because you're understanding of what men are going through doesn't mean the world has changed for them.

It's great that you understand but it just doesn't change men's lived reality.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

i understand the redpill. and believe me it has made me more bitter and manhating than feminism could ever think about accomplishing.

inb4 “you’ll die alone with cats” no i won’t, i will make damn sure of that. stop coping

[–]MuleFool424 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

and believe me it has made me more bitter and manhating than feminism could ever think about accomplishing.

So you hate men? That might be the problem.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

there’s plenty of men who hate women, it hasn’t stopped them from getting into relationships with them and being socially popular. Jessica Valentini, a scorned online feminist, is married with kids. “Hatred” of the opposite sex means jack shit as a problem.

[–]MuleFool422 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

So what are you angry about, exactly? That the Red Pill is not for you?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

more just bitter i followed it blindly when i was a self loathing ugly weird chick. at least with feminism i felt good about myself, with redpilling and antifeminism i was constantly putting myself down and comparing myself to being “not like other girls”. like the redpill “anger phase” but in the reverse

[–]MuleFool421 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

RP is highly useful for men, IMO, although nowhere that I know of about RP requires that women put themselves down.

I can't take feminism for a host of reasons, but then, feminism has never been about men, and, sorry to say, never been about equality.

[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

TRP is garbage. RPW is just “How to be a Stepford Wife”. Real TRP for women would focus on exploiting men for fun and profit. Ditch the pill shit, pick up Marcus Aurelius. Be sexually liberated: which can mean no partners or a hundred. And hold your head high; being traditionally feminine might not suit you. So what? Men like all kinds; if people think you’re a bitch, as long as you’re not an asshole, that’s fine. Men love bitches.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

this is true. amy dunne and cathy ames are good fictional examples of what a true RPW would be.

[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Don’t try to be an RPW, be yourself. Let me guess: your inclinations are to be loud, intense, unfeminine, and abrasive? If they are: be that way. Low self esteem is unattractive as fuck.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

nah, i hate shouting and my face is stoic 24/7. my personality is more of an anorexic ice queen compared to the fat loud chicks i know.

[–]Bntt891 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh so your not getting the top men because they have options? It happens my friend, guys experience this too, I dont think that's its uncommon for the top men to just not choose you in particular

[–]bluehorserunning0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Forget about what some unscientific hypothesis tells you that you should be attracted to and what you want. Think about what you actually want, and reconsider your behavior based on that.

[–]goneaway2thewind0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, if what you say is true, I'd date you. Maybe you just come off as all your other hyper sexualized non commital peers.

[–]CosmicBioHazard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not sure I follow, but is it that being ‘virgin wife material’ was failing to get you... sex?

The benefits that this kind of behaviour promises are, well, sex is not one of them, nor is having fun. you employ the relevant strategy for what you want; if that’s an active sex life, your strategy is to behave like the women who have that.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

do you believe RPW is ordering you to do things? like a command hallucination?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

no. enough with the “you need therapy” comments, i’m just eccentric (in the nicest terms i can use).

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didnt say anything like that.

Yoyre responding as if by reading RPW you are being ordered to do something.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Red pill was created to give young men a right of passage. It’s focused on bodybuilding, stoicism, finances and constant self improvement. You can easily tell which posts are from chads and which from incels. Redpill lately has an influx of incels who hate females and focus on nonsense like who can get the most STDs.

I found redpill when I was 18 a couple years ago as a young hopeless chad and it has improved my life immensely. But I’m a male.

If you’re constantly getting pumped and dumped, the problem is most likely you. Learn to read red flags, do you understand body language, micro expressions, or even pacifying behavior? If you do, you can read a persons mind.

Redpill can be great for women too if you know what knowledge to absorb.

If you want advice, feel free to ask.

[–]werubim0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Your best strategy is to make yourself as attractive as possible and then dedicate your time to meeting the most successful older man that you can.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

i’m working on it. how can i meet rich men anyways. watched that school of affluence chick’s videos and i don’t take advice from someone who is likely an eastern euro prostitute (she seems nice though). Do i need to hang around golf clubs or what

[–]werubim0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You need to research events where successful men hang around like business conventions, expensive country clubs, auctions, luxury stores, expensive parts of town etc. See if you can get hired to do coat check, serve drinks, etc. You can volunteer at hospitals to meet doctors etc. Many accomplished older men would love to have a young wife.

[–]s_slayer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Such a gross combo. How about an egalitarian relationship between two people of the same generation? The whole youth as a currency thing is so gross.

[–]werubim0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is this 'gross'? I think it's quite prejudiced to judge. Men want youth and beauty in a woman and women want competence and accomplishment in a man, so it's a great trade that accounts for these important differences.

[–]s_slayer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t tell me what I want. I want something much deeper than accomplishments. I want someone I have intense chemistry with, I found that guy. You can’t buy that. And I was a young woman once. I would have been miserable with a man I didn’t have great chemistry with no matter how much money he had. You are delusional. You’re a man. Stop pretending you know how women think.

[–]i_have_a_semicolonPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was 18/19 RP helped me realize what an AWALT that is and to be aware of what makes me attracted to men. I think RP has value, but why you stay a virgin idk. That didn't deter me from meeting my forever partner. We tie the knot in 8 days, and I can tell ya we wouldn't have made it if I hadn't had just enough exposure to old rp and old rpw to know some shit. 7 years later things might have changed but I guess it's simple to catch guys,

Go surround yourself by men, and be the best looking women in the room.

[–]Dimenzije900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Youre too young to talk about TRP not working. Especially if youre a virgin. Just like we vet girls for LTR material. So should you vet guys for the same. (because it sounds to me like you want a relationship more then sex).

[–]AI_WAIFUtake the weebpill0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

The social contracts that would have let you benefit from following red pill doctrine burnt to ashes. Fortunately for you, the Otome genre is becoming better and more popular.

If you want real advice though, you haven't locked in a career yet. I recommend getting into an engineering or compsci program if you can. There's a huge institutional push for women in STEM. Expect to shed tears of blood, hate yourself, and lose anywhere 4-6 years of the prime of your life. However, the 3:1 mtf ratio will ensure you'll have a harem of men with high earnings potential to choose from, plenty of grants, and companies falling over themselves to hire you.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I’ve already said in previous posts that i’m going to uni for mathematics. i ain’t gonna be anything special considering the girls i know hot AND smart

[–]AI_WAIFUtake the weebpill0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've been though a STEM program. I've seen and at my worst been part of the solar systems of orbiters around any women. You're underestimating just how far the ratio will tilt things in your favour. When the ratio is 3:1, you get your pick of the top 1/3 of men. When it's 5:1 it's the top 20%. Regardless of how attractive your peers are. If you really want to tilt things in your favor, go learn this thing called Haskell then go to this thing called a "programming language theory conference". 1/3 of the attendants will be availible to you. The other 1/3 will be after the other woman in the room, and the rest will be chasing the various men wearing programming socks.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I hate male “intellectuals”, i would never want to marry a programmer. If i didn’t care about money, i’d probably date a slightly dumb blue collar man with a heart of gold. of course no men with pure hearts exist, but i’m being incredibly optimistic.

[–]AI_WAIFUtake the weebpill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate male “intellectuals”, i would never want to marry a programmer.

Where is this hatred for an entire demographic coming from? I can understand hating men as a whole, but why this group specifically?

If i didn’t care about money, i’d probably date a slightly dumb blue collar man with a heart of gold.

Blue collar workers in certain disciplines (like assembly line and oil-workers) can actually make a fair bit of money because nobody want's to do what they're doing. Just because their job is low-status doesn't mean they don't make bank.

If I had to guess, I think you need to go outside and actually talk to people, your view of men seems to be formed mostly from internet stereotypes.

[–]s_slayer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t write them all off. I’m dating an intellectual, a brilliant man, a little awkward and clueless, his face was somewhat deformed until recently (corrective surgery) and he still feels like his old self. He’s gorgeous to me. Tonight I kissed him and lifted his feet off the ground. He has the sexiest eyes, so much sadness in them but I love him. I don’t dare tell him. I’m not sure he can handle it. He couldn’t handle me saying it. I know he felt ugly most of his life. I question at this point if I can make a difference in him at his age (50).

[–]downvotesanimalsCertified not responsible for the oppression of women0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

It provides women with strong, masculine men to be with. I'd say that's a bit of a plus.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

strong and masculine chads don’t use reddit. only dweebs who think they’re alpha do

[–]downvotesanimalsCertified not responsible for the oppression of women-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That's categorically untrue, but whatever.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

no chad gets done fucking hot chicks and thinks “damn i’m gonna post this on the redpill subreddit so i can get karma and validation from internet men who aspire to my lifestyle”. actual chad tells his bros abt the experience and then moves on to the next chick

[–]downvotesanimalsCertified not responsible for the oppression of women5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Every 'chad' I know has a smart phone and kills time on it just like everybody else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not on reddit lol

[–]Speedvolt20 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Redpill men are pretty pathetic. Trying to attract one of them is a horrible idea.

Most are balding gymcel Manlets who believe that by acting alpha they will look better than a 6-3 naturally gl guy. They believe that holding frame is what makes Jason momoa an alpha and not the fact that he’s 6-4 with a huge frame. As a result, they act really Wierd irl.

Every single redpill/pua guru I’ve seen has been balding, short, and ugly, and it shows by the Wierd ideas that they have that show little to no experience of the real world.

I can tell when someone is a redpill person irl bcs they always try to act super alpha towards people despite being like half their size and instead come off as severely autistic.

Like I met one in the gym the other day. I was lifting and he was roughly 5-4 (I’m about 5-8). He was bald with a beard and acted like a typical gymcel (tons of wraps, Gallon of mystery liquid, lifting belt, bloated face, and a legs heavy physique from worshipping deadlifts and squats). He was very pushy, got very close to me, and tried to hold out to beat my shit test (I was doing some curls and he wanted the squat rack).

It was probably the most autistic display I have every seen, and I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would want to marry into that,

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

balding

forreal though. why are they always bald it’s always like they’re compensating for something when they make fun of women “hitting the wall”..... hm..... i wonder what it could be

[–]Speedvolt2-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea if you want to take a look at a coping redpiller, look up “itisforsexy lookism” into google. This is basically how they all look and that is how they actually talk like and behave

[–]Emervila0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP is not a training camp, you do with your life what you want. Use the knowledge to improve yourself. You can enjoy the decay or suffer the decay make your choice.

TRP will open your eyes but the path is yours to build and follow. It's not a religion to tell you what to do step by step.

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Redpill is just a lense to view the world. Just a set of tools.

Take what you want, use what you want. The only one responsible for the results is yourself.

Perspective is always beneficial. What you do with it... well that is on you.

[–]MattcwuJust sticking up for the oppressed and voiceless women0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A) There are invisible costs to sleeping around, such as STD's.

B) People obsessed with their phones are happy in the moment because they are receiving dopamine, but they are not improving at any skill. Later in life, people who worked hard will have more skills, abilities, and options. Those who just played on their phone are just kinda stuck on their phones.

[–]captainmo017-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

insert Tomi Lauren Republican men treat me like shit pic

[–]PPPPDAccount-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems like the problem isn't RPW itself, but trying to apply the strategy when you are <22. Guys your age aren't interested in LTRs right now, and older guys(23+) find you good for sex but probably not for relationships.

22-24 seems to be the sweet spot for RPW. The other 22-24 women will still be riding the CC while their SMV is high which leaves you competing with older women for dudes 25-29 whose SMV hasn't peaked yet.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's beneficial if you want to be a Chad plate who has a chance to be in a relationship with him when he finally decides to settle down. It's not beneficial otherwise. You're still young and you probably still have super high standards in men that are unrealistic based upon your own value. You'll eventually fool yourself into lowering those standards and thinking that the men you end up attracted to are just as good-looking and confident as the ones who you were attracted to before. At least you're not degrading yourself by being a plate at the moment.

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

bro i want to fuck john belushi how much lower can my standards go then being constantly horny for a dead FAT comedian (who wasn’t even that funny) who died of an overdose, and was said to be an insufferable asshole to women

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

As a young, somewhat attractive virgin girl

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

i’m just mentally fucked based on being ugly in my tween to mid teen years that i connect to undesirable men i’ve read multiple biographies about.

[–]_robot-love_ 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is funny, who are the other sexy undesirables?

[–]speakingintonguezNo Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Read “Road to Jonestown” and Champlain’s “Nero” awhile ago. I love fat neurotic drug addicts, they’re fun to read about and the women in their lives (ie: Carolyn Layton and Aggripina the Younger) are very relatable in their distaste for caring for manchildren. I can’t stand most true crime though, unless it’s about female criminals or cults. Ted Bundy’s adventures make me want to vomit, not because of his crimes, but because of how boring of a person he was underneath his cool murder boy persona.

[–]AzihayyaWhite Knight, the Voice of Femnai-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, you're really frustrated, and I'm sorry about that, so I'm hoping the best for you. The fact that you've saved your body for the right person until now is awesome, but I don't think you should be doing that for someone else--if your virginity doesn't mean anything to you, then don't bother holding on to it--but it sounds like something that's important to you, so I hope that you can appreciate that part of yourself because it's what you wanted, not because it's a red pill dating strategy or because it's what you thought that guys want. If you're serious about finding a man devoted to his purity as you are, then you might have to continue to be patient--and what I'm sensing from you is that you feel that time is running out, your options are thinning. At the end of the day (decade) you might not find what you want--but being bitter and jaded about it isn't going to help. Trust your heart, ma'am, and look to expand your social opportunities and go out looking for that man if that's what's in your heart. I know it's difficult, but try to drop the pessimistic, negative attitude. There are good guys out there, and the key to finding them is to foster a good heart for yourself. It sounds like that's what you're looking for, so I'm wishing the best for you. I hope you find that guy, and I hope that you find happiness, but remember, that guy and happiness are mutually exclusive. God bless.

[–]nooblek-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

IMHO you are right. Never understood why theres a redpill branch for women? Isn't the whole idea of red pill to rip men out of the fantasy society (and women) is selling them? In this world view women are already on top, as soon as the men wake up it will even out on its own fpr them.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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