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Before anyone tries to dismiss the fact that more female teachers are indeed sleeping with their students compared to previous years (In America at least). The numbers are in, and they are up dramatically.

A quick google of Female Teachers Sleeping With Students shows at least 60+ relatively recent high profile cases of female teachers caught up sleeping with one (or multiple) underage students. And these are just the known cases that made national news.

Imagine how many of these situations are swept under the rug or never discovered in the first place?

From a RP standpoint, this phenomenon makes no sense. Guys aged 12-18 have no resources. They have no status. And the little bit of game you do have at that age is primitive and usually aimed at other 13-18 year olds.

Growing up I rarely heard of these types of cases and me nor anybody I know has ever had the opportunity to bang a teacher. If there was a sex scandal about a female teacher, it was about her sleeping with other school staff and not a student.

I have a couple of theories of why this is gaining prevalence in recent years:

  1. Social Media and Technology - Many of these teachers that get caught have either recorded incriminating footage or left digital evidence in some way. Technology has made it easier for teachers and students to connect 24/7 and has also made it easier to follow the evidence if inappropriate lines get crossed.

2. Mental Age and the Eternal Pursuit of Youth - Many young adult men and women nowadays aren't much more mature than they were in high school and kids nowadays are exposed to increasingly mature content at younger and younger ages. With plenty of 20-30 something women who have the maturity of a 16 year old and many young men that have had access to the internet (and all of its content) since birth, it's bound for more of them to be hooking up. You also have womens' natural inclination to chase staying young and attractive. It would make sense for an aging woman to pursue younger men in an effort to feel desired and youthful. A.K.A. The Cougar Effect.

3. Control Issues - Most of these teachers that get caught sleeping with students range from cute to 10/10 hot. It's not like these women can't get sex from men their age. But they can't control these men. Young guys are still naive, gullible and malleable about what they'll accept from women. This creates a power imbalance where the female holds all the power and can effectively make the young man do whatever she wants.

4. Social Standards and the Lack Thereof - Since the sexual liberation of the 60's, the standards of acceptable behavior for women have become increasingly lax. Women were traditionally expected to fill specific societal roles (Wife, Mother, Grandmother, etc) and to act accordingly. Now, the only standards American women are held to come from the overarching FSM that is heavily infused with feminist beliefs. One key belief of modern women and feminists is that a woman should face no repercussions for doing whatever she wants to do, as long as it makes her happy and doesn't go against the FSM. There is no religion to check these women. There are no men to check these women. Women are free to do almost whatever they want to do at this point, and are actively encouraged to do so. This likely plays a large part in female teachers sleeping with underage students.

What is PPD's take on this growing phenomenon?


[–]Orange_PaisleyOrange pill is best pill32 points33 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

It's probably always happened, we're just hearing about it more now. I don't think teachers should be sleeping with students regardless of the genders of the people involved. You can argue that an 18 year old is an adult and it should be okay if they sleep with their teacher, but I personally would still consider that predatory behavior if they are still in high school.

[–]AnarchoNAPFuchsia Pill Woman14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Its predatory behavior for the same reason that guards sleeping with the inmates is predatory behavior. It has nothing to do with age.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Inmates sleeping with inmates is nothing predatory, we know that.

[–]czerdec0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Some fucking anarchist you are.

[–]AnarchoNAPFuchsia Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, don’t lock people in cages against their will and have sex with them. I’m so statist.

[–]Physiologist21Cynic3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I mean legally they are an adult. If you don't use that definition then what is the point. I know plenty of 30 year olds that act like fucking children, I wouldn't doubt there are more mature 18 year olds.

[–]Orange_PaisleyOrange pill is best pill14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's the imbalance of power - a teacher sleeping with their student. I don't find it to be appropriate.

[–]Physiologist21Cynic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I never said it was. You commented on the point I did not address.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Would you say it's ok if the student has changed his class (and she's no more his teacher)? I guess that's legal, yes?

[–]gban840 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nope, check out Sarah Jones, she was accused of hooking up with a student at her school, but not one of her own students. Still ended up in court.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So, only a different school?

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad24 points25 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

I always assumed that they were either the former "Pretty girls" and now they're not.

Or they're the 'loser girls' and now they get to be the 'hottie' that can get the star QB, or cleat chaser she wanted.

I noticed the teachers always sleep with the 'jock and athletes' guys. Just what I've noticed.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman2 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I noticed the teachers always sleep with the 'jock and athletes' guys. Just what I've noticed.

Woah, they're sleeping with the hot guys in school? Incredible

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

haha, it's funny. Since a lot of these 'freak' female teachers, were the nerdy, types or 'geeky' girls that couldn't get those guys.

Or else the 'over the hill' former beauty, so matter what, girls still want the 'jocks' it makes me laugh.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I can't tell if they were nerdy, but even then bein a nerd per se does not make you visually unattractive (except glasses, maybe).

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

It's not 'looks' its mentality.

Something I learned in life as I grew older (I grew up, in a suburban town) a small town, uppermiddle class area. I started to notice at age 15, everyone was kinda 'off' to me, but they were trying to say I was "the weirdo" since I wnated to go the 'neighborhood over' and play with other kids once in a while.

My Cul De Sac, no one did that, and I was strange for it. Then it went on into high school, I'd met kids that never left our town, to go like 10 mintues to a neighoring one, only for a baseball game, they were scared, racist, xenophobic. But one thing that stood out was that 'high school' was everything to them.

It was to me at one point (while I was there) I was a loser in 7th grade, and I wanted to be 'popular' so, I gradually got popular(Sports paved that way) and I went to all the parties, and by my jr. year, I was over it. Literally I dated girls from other or rival schools, that pissed off everyone.

But my point being, these people took high school 'deathly 'serious, and many kids did go to college, the problem was that the town was 'stifling' and ran by typical boomer sycophants, that would msitreat kids, or destroy kids futures if you were 'poor' or weren't 'chosen' (Parents eitehr kissing their asses, or paying them money under the table as PTA), and it was all rigged.

Even when a poor kid or middle class kid did well at sports, with grades, they went 'nowhere' and everyone knew the coach was sabotaging people, he'd always done it, a D-1 coach told me he was doing it to me and my teammates, I told them, they didn't believe me, then they found out, and instead of being angry or doing something, many went into this weirdo "victim blaming, self blame' mentality of "If I was a better person, or didn't drink that one day, maybe coach wouldn't have fcked me" which I thought was complete horsesht, he was just a racist, bitter, jealous piece of shit(he showed it many a time).

But the town pushed that narrative, the parents that were locals, that the 'town decides' vibe, and a teacher was f*cking students at my school, but he waited untl they were 17-18, and everyone knew it, it was 'fine' since the person doing it was white, etc..

My point being, these people, from these towns.. They never move to the city, or out of their state, college (if they go) doesn't mean much, they only have 'high school' since they're so brainwashed, and f*cked up, they can't make new friends, or meaningful relationsihps.

I"m talking people that 'hate their best friends' for the last 10 years, but stay, since they can't find 'anyone else' that knows them, it lead to a lot of drugs, overdosing, alocholism, as the town brainwashes them to tell them who is better, and lesser, and they all go along with it. Even if it's corrupt.

I got the Fck out at 19, never went back. Then I visited and came back for graduate school, same sht, it's insane. Those are the types of people f*Cking students. From these types of areas. Their self worth was 'high school' and if they went to college, tehy barely got through, since most teachers had the lowest grades in college, this is just kinda how we saw it at my school.

So, there you go. (Sorry for being long winded)

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hm, teachers are people who can't get the high school out of their heads. This makes sense.

I am not sure that's what nerdiness is, though.

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just what I've seen. Also, people have taken "nerdy" to mean so many things it doesnt'. The word should be 'lames, or losers' etc.. since the people aren't smart, just awkward, weird, or can't 'get it right'. Etc..

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, the average depiction of nerd I know is a socially awkward person in glasses with textbooks. And they choose textbooks because they can't choose people.

[–]Creepyqueries0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Why was the coach jealous? I have heard stories of coaches pulling bullshit moves and ruining kids athletic futures multiple times.

How would they prevent kids from succeeding? Did D1 coaches ever push back?

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Just a mentality of they 'had it harder' and the fact that they did not 'make it', so why should you?

Our coach was a 'coaches son' that got hooked up through high school, at a private school, was still shitty, went to a D-2, and when his dad wasn't there, he never started and was the back up QB, all the years, quit, then got a good coaching job, due to his dads power and connections (our school) and he coached the team for over 32 years (from like 23-54 years old.... No D-1 players until my generation of 'moving out of state' and trying, which was a novel idea, that no one ever did.

Parents can prevent this by going to private school, and they passed rules that kids can transfer and not lose a year of eligibility(old rule, you transfer, you have to sit out the next year, as well, so that was their power to keep kids, since one year(or 2) not playing, your chances are over in sports). So go private, find out who the best coaches are that get players out, find programs, and send your kids to those coaches. That's what you gotta do, be pro-active.

D-1 coaches normally don't have the time to 'push back' or worry about it, unless the kid is some all-world talent, then no, they won't. They see 100's of recruits for each position, over and over, they don't have time for it, and they're not willing to fight for kids. They assume (and it's an unwritten rule) that the 'coaches would no the best on a players character' so baring some really drastic stuff, or the kid plays for another coach, the players are screwed over.

Also it's classicism and racism in there, they don't mind you 'playing for them' to get a championship, but they don't want you to benefit off of it, or go D-1, if you don't kiss there ass just right. That's how it is. It is such BS but such is life.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-cPTXtegIs- Aliquippa head coach has been giving players their letters.

[–]Creepyqueries0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

There is a guy on YouTube that is quite popular. He makes basketball videos.

He said he was a very good basketballer in middle school. He was the best on his team and transferred to another school. The coach refused to play him and ruined his high school career. He only wanted to use guys he knew wanted to build up his fresh man

That is fucked up. They use you to get a championship but don't want you to play division 1. People can be really jealous.

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's insanely common.

I had a buddy that our coach hated, but this kid was a rich, pretty boy, type( but was talented), our coach tried to not play him, and was sabotaing his name to D-1 schools. His dad went in there, threatened a huge lawsuit, the coach shut up, and my boy ended up going to a school(which he left to transfer, he went from JC, to D-1(Texas Tech), then he left, to a D-3 before it was all said and done).

Point being, he had full control, destroyed many lives. A lot of those kids became drug addicts, lost futures, wastoids. I wasn't supposed to be the one to make it, but I went my own route, and left the town, it's screwed up though.

People are so bitter, and jealous. It's disgusting, so i feel you.

[–]Creepyqueries0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So some of those kids could have been in the NBA or NFL but were fucked because of horrible coaches.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know anecdotally that one of my "hot" teachers in highschool was an ugly duckling because my older sister was in the same grade as her.

Girls still want the attractive guys and young guys who do sports are probably attractive.

[–]Polojames123No Pill Chad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, what i've seen as well.

[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This isn't as straightforward as you'd think. Women are most attracted to men their own age. So it would seem "loser girl" seems to be most likely.

tl;dr They can't attract men their own age who are "hot."

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think women are physically attracted to men their own age. It makes no sense from an evolutionary perspective to keep changing your preferences for ever aging bodies and faces. Not to mention that the number of hot old guys is way lower than hot young guys. Women are used to selecting for men their own age (or slightly older) because they're likely to be as educated/successful/mature as they are (or more) and because of insecurity. Women know that the majority of men prefer to date a younger woman than themselves (unless they're teenagers) so they're reluctant to date younger men out of fear of not being sexually desirable and not having *that* dynamic.

[–]SeasonedRP8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I suspect it isn't as recent a phenomenon as people think. It happened when I was in high school ages ago (friend of mine and an ugly teacher; no consequences), and I heard stories of it happening long before then. I think it has something to do with certain women's competitive instincts. They are in an environment of young people, see girls competing for boys, and want to outdo them by landing one of those boys. RP might call it pre-selection. A boy is desired by many girls, and these teachers think the boy must have something going on and want to get with him.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are in an environment of young people, see girls competing for boys, and want to outdo them by landing one of those boys. RP might call it pre-selection. A boy is desired by many girls, and these teachers think the boy must have something going on and want to get with him.

Couldn't be more wrong. Boys are the ones who flirt with teachers, they're at the age where older women look very good to them.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot50 points51 points  (72 children) | Copy Link

teenagers have been suitable for fucking for all of human history, there is no biological mechanism that prevents adult women from finding them attractive just like the gender reversed scenario lol.

this is compounded by the fact that teenage boys pursue their female teachers. its why the women in these scandals are generally attractive. teenage boys don't look at attractive 20something women and think "elder who i need to respect" lmao. they will treat you just like they would treat a teenage girl. i'm sure for some of these women it can feel refreshing and novel to feel the magic again or whatever

high schools are also little societies within themselves, its totally possible for a boy to have "status" in that context

[–]HottentotGeniusHippie Chadavius✊🏽[S] 34 points35 points  (58 children) | Copy Link

just like the gender reversed scenario lol.

The gender reversed scenario of this situation is viewed as one of the most predatory things a man can do

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot22 points23 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

men bang teenagers all the time hun

[–]rus9384Misanthrope11 points12 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

But not their students. At least, they will be seen as last assholes on the Earth.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot22 points23 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

men have sex with their students at twice the rate that female teachers do

[–]ohheyhi99Conflicted Feminist Man, No Pill8 points9 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

It’s not socially acceptable though. And it’s becoming even more socially unacceptable year by year.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot26 points27 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

yeah and its not socially acceptable for women to either so whats the point of specifying men here

[–]MasonMan123410 points11 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Women who do it aren't seen as sex offenders or sexual deviants, while men are, that's the point.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot27 points28 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

yes they are, hence the whole literally being charged as sex offenders thing.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

In no way does the outrage compare to when men do it.

There is no way around this

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where do you see female teachers parade their student bf?

[–]ohheyhi99Conflicted Feminist Man, No Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I misread, but the way that Kandy said “men bang teenagers all the time” and “men have sex with their students at twice the rate female teachers do” seemed to suggest that those behaviors are given a “boys will be boys” pass just because they’re more common.

I was saying that even if those behaviors are more common for men, they’re still heavily frowned upon and seen as not only perverted, but especially predatory and dangerous when men do them. Those behaviors happen despite strong social stigma.

Just for the record, I don’t endorse teachers banging their students, and I’m sometimes skeptical of full-on adults dating teens.

[–]reluctantly_red2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

College professors maybe but not male school teachers.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

according to the data in the OP's post, they do.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

They bang their students if they can. Source: the same coach who used to hit on me as a teen in HS got fired after he slept with a minor from a different school

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And they are getting caught and are seen as devils.

Female teachers... at most are seen as succubi, which is not that bad.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, but they try harder to bang their students. There would be way more than 90% male offenders if every teen they fancied liked them back.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can agree with this.

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_IIIPurple Pill Man1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He didn't say they don't but that it's viewed as awful and predatory, which it is. When ir happen a the other way round it isn't taken as seriously.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it is seen as awful and predatory

[–]reluctantly_red-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not underage teenagers.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's mostly men who say "hur dur I wish I had a teacher like her".

[–]sophii118 points19 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

85 to 90 percent of teacher sexual misconduct cases are male offenders. Just thought I’d let you know the entire basis of your post is wrong.

here’s the article for anyone whose to lazy to go through a thousand page gov report

[–]HottentotGeniusHippie Chadavius✊🏽[S] 11 points12 points  (28 children) | Copy Link

That article is 13 years old and it's based on statistics from 15 years ago. The only Smartphones back then were Blackberrys and Palm TREOs.

The former Chief of Staff at the US Department of Education agrees with the basis of my post. The proportion of female teacher sex offenders has spiked dramatically in recent years. Nowhere did I say that men never sleep with students. I'm asking why women are starting to catch up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/20/more-teachers-are-having-sex-with-their-students-heres-how-schools-can-stop-them/

[–]sophii18 points9 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

increasing from 2% to 5% is a 150% change. That’s quite a dramatic spike!! Still not majority percent though, and still not enough to convince me women raping men is a huge problem. As long as 80% of the offenders are still male, it’s still a vastly majority male problem.

I could care less about that guy’s opinions, I live on statistics from legitimate sources. I would rather go with an old study than a modern “opinion”

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_IIIPurple Pill Man7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

, and still not enough to convince me women raping men is a huge problem

I bet it's a huge problem for the victims though. But who cares, no one should care about an affected group of people if there aren't too many of them.

[–]sophii14 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I care about the victims. That’s why I’d like to know how many of them their are so we can properly asses the severity of the situation.

[–]MyDogLovesCorn0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Oh fuck off, teachers fucking students is mostly a men issue. Deal with it.

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_IIIPurple Pill Man1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

What's your point here? That because it's mostly men we shouldn't care when women do it? This whole case isn't about which gender abuses kids more, it's about which doesn't recieve well deserved scorn for it. You've proven yourself a real feminist though

[–]MyDogLovesCorn-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That's funny because I literally can't scroll down the Dailymail or our local news sites without seeing a story about she-teachers fucking students.

You've proven yourself a real feminist though

Only an individual such as yourself who gets less action than a decaying corpse would ever think that "feminist" is an insult to me. Most of my friends are women. Do I want to sleep with some of them? Yes. Will I try to? No. But that's fine. They're my friends. And they're my friends because I'm not an icky weirdo like you who spends most of his time crying about women on the internet.

Wow! You see this guys! /u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III totally OWNS and DESTROYS hyper-idealistic liberal feminists on the internet, most of whom are overwhelming dumbass college students (college kids tend to be stupid because guess what -- they're still kids). What a #TrueAlpha you are! o7

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_IIIPurple Pill Man1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Only an individual such as yourself who gets less action than a decaying corpse would ever think that "feminist" is an insult to me. Most of my friends are women. Do I want to sleep with some of them? Yes. Will I try to? No. But that's fine. They're my friends. And they're my friends because I'm not an icky weirdo like you who spends most of his time crying about women on the internet.

Wow! You see this guys! /u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III totally OWNS and DESTROYS hyper-idealistic liberal feminists on the internet, most of whom are overwhelming dumbass college students (college kids tend to be stupid because guess what -- they're still kids). What a #TrueAlpha you are! o7

Wow, I certainly struck a nerve there. And you suddenly bringing up the women you wanna sleep with is very telling, I hope none of them are your students.

Oh I'm not a conservative, but I do love owning and destroying statutory rapist sympathizers.

[–]HottentotGeniusHippie Chadavius✊🏽[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The jump in lady teacher sexual predators, from your numbers to mine went from 4% (if your numbers are to believed) to 33% (if my numbers are to be believed).

If a jump from 4% to ONE-THIRD in ten years isn't a big enough spike for you, I don't know what to tell you.

On a related note, my numbers don't come from "opinion". They are a mixture of the US Department of Educations numbers and updated numbers from a research firm thats ran by the former Chief of Staff at the DOE.

[–]sophii18 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m having trouble finding the data they are getting “two thirds from” I’ve searched the internet far and wide to no avail.

if you have numbers, please give them to me. Numbers make me horny. Plus we can’t really discuss this unless we have the same information.

[–]GridReXXit be like that0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn’t find the data to substantiate 33% either.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

My guess would be that women aren’t “catching up”. Parents are starting to see these relationships in a different light and reporting them.

It wasn’t that long ago that an older man could completely ruin a young girls chances of having a decent life, by getting her pregnant or ruining her reputation. Young men have never paid a high price for youthful indiscretion. Most fathers would have wanted to castrate the older man, while they would pat their sons on the back for having sex with an older woman. This attitude is changing quickly.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Parents are starting to see these relationships in a different light and reporting them.

Guys telling about relationships with teachers to parents? Wow! Morons.

Assuming they want to have them

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

They could just, you know, get caught.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I would say fucking at his parents' homeplace is a big risk.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If it's a smaller community someone could see them and either tell their parents or a rumour starts. The parents could see the calls/messages on the son's phone.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, what controlling parents. Mine never looked into my phone, nor were overly interested if I have relationships.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Parents find out about them. Through school gossip and bragging. How do you think the majority of all these relationships, with either high school boys or girls, are discovered? Do you think high school girls are running home to tell her parents she had sex with her teacher?

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Then... most are not discovered, I guess.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I suspect most probably are discovered, tbh. Especially boys sleeping with teachers. Teenagers are stupid and can never shut their pieholes. Nowadays they get caught by posting the evidence on social media.🙄

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Teenagers are stupid

They are, but not that much.

Nowadays they get caught by posting the evidence on social media.

I am not sure most are that stupid.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Up vote for palm treo knowledge...

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I still have the cordless charger for my trio perma stuck to my night stand.

I don't know what kind of adhesive they used, but they should glue the ISS together with it!

[–]the-lone-squidNot the edible squid5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Or the more likely explanation is availability. People tend to fuck what's easy and convenient. Happens in all work places really

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

availability isn't enough reason considering most teachers don't bang their students. to see them as an option requires some sort of pathology.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Cute women can go to Tinder and fuck the same day.

[–]the-lone-squidNot the edible squid0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

They usually hate tinder, and if they are married that's risky

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Tinder hook ups are riskier than school affairs? WTF?

[–]the-lone-squidNot the edible squid0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't say they think it though.

Women tend to live in the moment. If you took the same "teacher" and put her as a bartender she would be fucking the bar patreons.

Honestly the only women I've known to use tinder work some type of office job where they are kinda isolated

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is different, I agree. Explains much.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

high schools are also little societies within themselves, its totally possible for a boy to have "status" in that context

I think this goes back to these teachers being mentally 16 does it not though?

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

stunted adults aren't "mentally 16" they're just dumb adults

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

6 of one half a dozen of the other

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Legit. My male classmates used to chat up the attractive female teachers whenever they could.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

they will treat you just like they would treat a teenage girl.

Not exactly.

But once we had a 23 year old cute substitute teacher and my classmate (we were 14-15 at that moment) suggested her to sit on his knees.

Why not exactly? Because he still used that official "You" (we have it different in our language). And still there are some other differences.

[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

well i'm speaking from my own experience with teenage boys as an adult woman

[–]screenmagnet30F non-trad, HL, alt-feminist, PPW7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s just being reported more. In the past, if a male student had sex with a female teacher, it wouldn’t even be recognized as abuse. Even if the student told his parents (very unlikely until recently), it likely wouldn’t be taken seriously at all.

Also, sexual abuse IN GENERAL (regardless of gender) is being reported more often (metoo effect).

When I was in high school, there were three male teachers who had affairs with female students. There was a scandal each time, but the teachers weren’t even punished. People talked about it like a “sex scandal” not like an abuse of power.

[–]HossMcDankEdgy Centrist7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

1) Women's sexuality is less repressed than before

2) They get caught more often, and people are noticing the obvious hypocrisy

[–]the-lone-squidNot the edible squid5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they can, and that's what's most available to them.

Why do so many college kids fuck other college kids? And not someone inconvenient to them?

A married teacher isn't just gonna be able to go to bars or put up a tinder profile

[–]PikaPikaDude3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they get away with it and know that. Again and again courts refuse to hand out hard prison time to these rapists.

[–]idkwhattoputhere00016 points17 points  (45 children) | Copy Link

Because she’s sick in the head and has no morals. Just like male pedophiles.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope6 points7 points  (41 children) | Copy Link

A 20-something woman is immoral for having sex with 17 year olds guys. She's a monster.

[–]idkwhattoputhere00015 points16 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Who was even talking about “a 20 something year old woman” and “17 year olds” ? Can you tell me that? The topic was teachers with students. Of any ages. I’m with the opinion that teachers shouldn’t be having sex with students in the first place, wether it’s a man or a woman. No, I don’t think a 20 year old having sex with a 17 year old is wrong. But most teachers aren’t 20, and not all students are 17. If you as an adult have sex with somebody under the age of consent, then yes you are a monster.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope3 points4 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

If you as an adult have sex with somebody under the age of consent, then yes you are a monster.

So, the definition of monster differs depending on the jurisdiction.

But anyway, the point is that teachers are not allowed to have sex even with non-adult students who are above age of consent (e.g. 16-17).

[–]idkwhattoputhere0005 points6 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that’s why I said I’m with the opinion that teachers shouldn’t be having sex with students. But, a teacher having consensual sex with an 18 year old isn’t as terrible as having sex with a 14 year old, who cannot give consent.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that’s why I said I’m with the opinion that teachers shouldn’t be having sex with students.

"It's forbidden by law; this is why I think it should not be done."

Like, if democracy was forbidden, you'd be against democracy, I infer.

But, a teacher having consensual sex with an 18 year old isn’t as terrible as having sex with a 14 year old, who cannot give consent.

He can't, he just makes her comments on her looks and whatever.

[–]idkwhattoputhere0004 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, I don’t think the reason why teachers and students shouldn’t be having sex is because it’s forbidden by law. Teachers should be teaching, and students studying. Are you a raging sex advocate or something? Nothing against sexual freedom, but please keep it inside your home or private places. Not in schools where you’re supposed to be educating people.

And about democracy, how are you so sure I don’t disagree with it right now? :)

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Teachers should be teaching, and students studying.

How does sex prevent it?

Not in schools where you’re supposed to be educating people.

I also don't think a school is an appropriate place for banging.

And about democracy, how are you so sure I don’t disagree with it right now?

The reason for that is not that it's forbidden by law.

[–]idkwhattoputhere0001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah ok, then we’re not disagreeing with much

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_IIIPurple Pill Man2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Are you seriously trying to defend female teachers fucking their students.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

I am not Western... so yeah.

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_IIIPurple Pill Man0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

What the hell does being a Westerner have to do with this? You're okay with children and teenagers being sexually abused when the abusers are women. I literally can't believe this. Please don't interact with me again.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

What the hell does being a Westerner have to do with this?

The West brings its own culture that looks at teenagers as at helpless larvae. Of course, helpless larvae can't have sex, as if it will cause problems, they will not be capable to solve them.

children and teenagers being sexually abused

I am not defending abuse, but lets not pretend like even the majority of sex between female teachers and their students is because of abuse, without evidence for it. Do you have evidence for that?

Please don't interact with me again.

Ignorance is bliss.

[–]reluctantly_red4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

She's creepy AF, self-absorbed, and will likely damage her victims.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I mean, most scandals have only sex involved. Not real damage.

[–]reluctantly_red5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Male victims do suffer damage. I've got a bunch of them on my caseload.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Were teachers even attractive as the OP believes? Did they power abuse guys to have sex with them?

[–]reluctantly_red4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When teenage guys fall in love with older women it almost always messes them up.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, falling in love is not just having sex.

[–]gban840 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My wife is older me than me, am I destined to become "messed up"?

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

17 is legal here. I like how the same act can be an immoral, terrible crime in one state and slightly frowned upon 300 miles away

[–]rus9384Misanthrope3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Are teachers allowed to have sex with students there, though?

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No that's never allowed I was isolating the "pedophilia" aspect

My first gf was 17 and I was 19 for the record. It's just funny to me how crazy people get over this shit

[–]ArcheryDude101-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you have any specific stories?

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

no. nobody went crazy on me specifically because nobody cared. it's just funny to me when another 19 year old guy bangs another 17 year old girl and because they live in a different state hes a rapist he needs to be drawn and quartered

[–]ArcheryDude1010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean. If the girl is a dog, then there might be a slight issue. :P

[–]geyges🐇1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There was a thread on twox where femtards were complaining about man getting probation for rape.

Turns out the charge was statutory. Sex was consensual with a 16yo; AOC in state was 17; but 30 miles to the south is a neighboring state where the age of consent is 16.

[–]converter-bot2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

30 miles is 48.28 km

[–]ArcheryDude1010 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you have a link to the thread? I sorta wanna read it.

[–]the-lone-squidNot the edible squid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Many of the cases that made the news involved 13 year olds

[–]idkwhattoputhere0001 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, she’s not. A 25 year old woman with a 15 year old would be though.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

And 23?

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its up to the law, in my state AOC is 18.

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh noo those poor 15 year olds getting head

[–]idkwhattoputhere0003 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes in my eyes it’s very wrong because they are children still.

[–]gban840 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know 30 year olds who are still children

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Most are childhood sexual abuse victims probably

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Something like 90% of abusers were abused so that is highly likely.

[–]QueenCousland867 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what I came here to say. A lot of victims of CSA who don't deal with their trauma become offenders themselves.

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes14 points15 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ!

Even women child molesters are REALLY the victims.

Can women ever do wrong??

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, strawman

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm surely not saying it excuses their behavior.

But if the question is why it happens, or in other words "what are the chain of events that lead a grown woman onto a pubescent boy's penis", I suspect that being a victim in childhood is a common origin story that leads to creation of further victims, perhaps out of a desire to express their sexuality over someone they can completely control.

[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Would it make you happier for someone to state most men diddling boys were victims of abuse also?

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I pretty sure his comment was a joke.

[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

There's no jk tag and deciphering who is or isn't serious on a forum that deal with extreme views as a subject of debate is rather difficult.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean, his exaggerated reaction shows this.

Well, I guess most redditors lack social clues recognition.

[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How do you differentiate, in text the difference between exaggerated reaction that is a joke or one that comes from anger?

In real world social interactions, it would be in tone and inflection of words. Much like how sarcasm can not reliably be picked up in text we hack the /s and /jk tags to denote that.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you differentiate

First, his claim is an obvious non-sequitur.

Jesus Christ!

This phrase is to denote shock.

Can women ever do wrong??

Signs are there for the intonation.

[–]reluctantly_red2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How the fuck does that excuse predatory behavior?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It does not excuse it

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep11 points12 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Sexual abuse is almost always about power. Educators assault roughly 1 in 10 students, based on data from 2000. Based on 2015 stats, that number is 7% who said they were assaulted.

I wouldn't trust the source you linked, given that their reporting is of dubious factual quality, and the sources of their funding, which are heavily skewed and partisan.

Honestly though, I think we just hear about this more because we are more saturated with news. Things that used to be local scandals now become national news, so it's likely that not that much has really changed (some increase, but a larger perceived increase than it actually is), except for the way the law is applied, and the way that information is disseminated in the media.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Educators assault roughly 1 in 10 students, based on data from 2000. Based on 2015 stats, that number is 7% who said they were assaulted.

That is horrific--didn't realize it was that high

[–]decoy88Black Male in London10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Predators tend to choose professions where they have easier access to children

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

See: Catholic priests

[–]jayval90PUAs are Blue Pilled4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

...where the rate is roughly half that. And supposedly 10x lower in England.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Humanity sure can be brutal.

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh yea, it's horrible. But sexual predators will do anything to prey on vulnerable people and children and teenagers are a highly vulnerable population. I know people bristle at the idea of "rape culture", but we live in a society where sexual assault is still not taken seriously, is prevalent, and impacts many people.

Hell, I was sexually assaulted once (in HS, by another male student, but still). It's a serious issue that we have failed to address in the USA, imo.

[–]gban84-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious why you feel we have failed to address it in the US. Do you mean that it still happens, so we haven't solved the issue? It seems to me that we have plenty of laws to prosecute offenders, and most communities seem to take these issues very seriously.

[–]HottentotGeniusHippie Chadavius✊🏽[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Is the former Chief of Staff at the US Department of Education a better source? That's where most the info in the article came from.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/20/more-teachers-are-having-sex-with-their-students-heres-how-schools-can-stop-them/

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Interesting article, but it doesn't have any of the historical data you spoke about. The 2/3 number makes sense though. This source is definitely better, because it doesn't have the filter of a second round of edits to content over it.

Edit: My guess is this though. The reason that you are hearing more women implicated in these situations now, rather than in the past, is because of the way we define sexual assault now. People are more aware of what sexual assault entails now than before.

[–]HottentotGeniusHippie Chadavius✊🏽[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a bit of historical data in it. Pulled directly from the article:

"Unfortunately, these kinds of stories are becoming more common across the country. In 2014 alone, there were 781 reported cases of teachers and other school employees accused or convicted of sexual relationships with students. My firm, Drive West Communications, has been tracking news reports of sexual misconduct by educators for more than a year. Every week has brought news of 15 young people, on average, who were sexually victimized by the educators entrusted with protecting them.

In Texas, home to the largest number of teacher sexual misconduct cases in the country, investigations into alleged inappropriate teacher-student relationships has grown 27 percentover the past three years, to 179. Kentucky schools reported more than 45 sexual relationships between teachers and students in 2011, up from 25 just a year earlier. And a surge has been reported in Alabama, where the state investigated 31 cases during the year ending July 2013, nearly triple the number it had investigated just four years earlier.

That data confirmed the disturbing shift I have witnessed while working in education. In the late 1990s, I was press secretary for the Houston Independent School District, one of the largest districts in the country. In 2001, I served as chief of staff at the U.S. Department of Education. In those roles, I would hear about teachers who became sexually involved with students – but at that time, those cases seemed rare."

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, I saw those. Raw numbers are nice, but I do not view it as representative of large populations. I think it highlights an important issue, but I am not sure the data captures the magnitude or depth of what we are facing right now. The raw number data for those various regions is useful for understanding the trend, but again, that might in part be due to better education and reporting with regards to assault and what it looks like. To me, it would be like if crime statistics showed an increase in crime, but the data was bearing that out because there was a major increase in police presence, or amount of cases tried and prosecuted.

[–]SqueaksScreech2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They pedophiles that's why

[–]cardroid2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Another factor is probably that teaching has become much more female dominated than in the past (perhaps ironically because so many men are turned off teaching due to the perceived risk of being accused of sexual abuse of students). That means these female teachers spend most of their day at work with the main male interaction in their lives being with their students.

[–]oneprettycoolcat5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

  1. Women can't control their sexual urges.
  2. Women often are not punished harshly for doing it.

I'd bet it's not more common now, but it's just more common for us to hear about it and much more common for people to get caught thanks to communication technology.

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

  1. ⁠Women often are not are never punished harshly for doing it.

Ftfy

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And sometimes even get paid child support. Both are mockeries of justice.

[–]oneprettycoolcat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Occasionally, yes, and this is a symptom of the much wider problem in our society of women not facing consequences for their actions.

[–]gban840 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think Brittany Zamora would beg to differ...

[–]jayval90PUAs are Blue Pilled7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You know...

This was A LOT simpler when the moral was "only sleep with your spouse."

Just saying...

[–]PostModernCommieAnarcha-Femimnist (They, Them)2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that never existed

[–]jayval90PUAs are Blue Pilled3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The moral, not the reality.

[–]PostModernCommieAnarcha-Femimnist (They, Them)-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im sure you know from personal experience

[–]The_Madmans_Reign18M-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not an approved opinion. Back in your cage mih sojjiihh niss.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

because at some point teaching (along with nursing) became the default career path for sluts.

[–]Physiologist21Cynic4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nurses are always the biggest sluts, I don't know what it is.

[–]antariuszRed Pill Man1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought it was hair dressers

[–]Physiologist21Cynic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Could be i cant say i know many.

[–]LotBuilder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The women have mental issues and they start trying to compete with younger girls for the same boys. These boys do have status. Could be that the teachers were late bloomers that didn’t get attention from the most popular boys in HS but now they are so the little teeny bopper inside of them still craves the attention.

[–]MCMTI1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would actually say the age of teacher is the biggest factor? When I was in school the teachers were all in their...I don't know hella old! I mean there was nothing to relate to. By the time I started to graduate HS we had a teacher in her mid 20's and an assistant in her early 20's. They weren't my type so didn't care but most of the teachers were OLD.

Man I wish I were in school where my teachers were closer in age...

[–]cooktight 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

From a RP standpoint, this phenomenon makes no sense.

The teenagers often have high status within the school environment. That's enough to make them attractive. You'll note its teachers getting troubre here. They share this social environment with the teenage boys. Women are attracted to whever has status within the social context, sometimes that extends even to teenage boys at the top of the classroom hierarchy the teachers spend a large amount of time in.

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Status doesn't make them attractive. Having a good face (compounded by being young and not balding and sagging yet) and an athletic body (few men in their 30s workout) makes them attractive.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are so many woman teachers raping their students? FIFY.

[–]flamingoinghomeIs three lizards in trench coat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's "growing"--I think it's just finally being taken more seriously. For a long, long time, people believed women couldn't assault men, so cases like this weren't taken seriously as the rape cases they are. We still have a ways to go, but thankfully we're improving.

[–]draggin_balls1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I read an rp post that said they are responding to the social hierarchies in the classroom and becoming attracted to the alpha male students. But that was an typical rp assessment.

[–]Anonoboss1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, on whole, kids are less intimidated to report on sexual encounters with a female authority figure than a male authority figure. It may be deemed riskier or they may have more fear of consequences/retaliation from a male.

[–]MisterJose1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I partially don't get what people don't get. Age dynamics are sexy. People want a fantasy. Cute female teacher who makes you stay after school for 'extra work' is a pretty fucking hot fantasy. Plus you're already a teen boy with your dick hard almost constantly.

On her side, she all of a sudden has the excitement of this tremendous power. A fuck boy she now has a status and knowledge to seduce at her whim. Maybe she is inexperienced and didn't do so great in college, but now she has this amazing opportunity in front of her. Plus, unlike men, her sexuality isn't seen as deeply predatory and dangerous, so she's free to not think of herself like that as much.

Obviously aspects of that work in reverse, with a male teacher and a female student, as well.

Again, it's weird to me how people can not conceive of why power dynamics are sexy. Millions of people jerk and jill off to them every day, yet we act all shocked that anyone ever pursues or engages in anything but serious super-safe mutual peer sex. Why do people do it? Because they can.

OP, I don't buy your premise that this is a 'growing phenomenon'. I haven't seen evidence of that. I would say that emotional maturity happens differently these days, so maybe now you get a teacher in front of a class who's still a 'kid' themselves more than you would in the past. But that's only speculation.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you hit it on the head with 2. People are not mature. People in America specifically are mostly not adults. If you define adulthood by the ability to accept accountability for the shit you actually do wrong and work to fix it, the ability to take personal responsibility not just for your actions but for your emotions, I'd say 75% of both sexes in our country are adult children regardless of orientation, gender, whatever.

Also like 2/3 people under 35 that I talk to came from moderately to severely abusive/neglectful households. The boomers and Gen X might be the worst parents overall history has ever seen. It would make alot of sense that this is on the rise because emotional maturity has been on the decline and suddenly teachers have emotional things in common with students that just didn't exist in the past.

Though technology and the ability to connect anonymously and quietly with students certainly doesn't help the situation.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it really going up, or is it just being reported more?

Maybe a consequence of female sexual liberation?

[–]NewVerses2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're trying to make sense of pedophilia and sexual assault. I'm not sure that's how it works. I want to believe cases are reported more as of late because now we understand it to be just that (pedophilia and rape) but I fear I am being optimistic.

[–]Lauzarus9113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmmmm.... so, what’s your take on all the priests who’ve been raping little boys for decades? Too much social media? Trying to stay young? Also, the percentage of women who are teachers is 10-1 compared to men.

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What is PPD's take on this growing phenomenon?

Nice

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points [recovered]  (18 children) | Copy Link

because teachers are young, hot and dumb and black and latino men grow moustaches at 11 and are more masculine and have more game than full-grown white men

[–]rus9384Misanthrope3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone give her (or me if she's right) links to how teachers' "victims" look like.

[–]redditthrowaway14783 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Well THIS is a comment more out of left field than I’ve seen in a while! 😂

Mind elaborating a bit? This is so oddly specific, it suggests you have personal experience.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Explain to me how it remotely and in what manner suggests I have personal experience?

[–]redditthrowaway14784 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

...I...just...did? No need to get defensive

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not being defensive, I'm asking what in what i wrote you Could have possibly interpret did as coming from personal experience, because I cannot imagine how you interpreted my comment that way. Do you not have an answer

[–]redditthrowaway14783 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Alright, I’ll bite...

“because teachers are young, hot and dumb and black and latino men grow moustaches at 11 and are more masculine and have more game than full-grown white men”

I fail to see the logic in how a teacher being “young, hot, and dumb” correlates in any way, shape, or form with attraction towards Black and Latino facial hair or their perceived masculinity and/or game. All the aforementioned claims are gross generalizations of multiple populations, and the entire premise of your argument is EXTRAORDINARILY contrived; So much so, that the only possible explanation one could conceive of, is that you must have had some personal experience (perhaps it happened at your school growing up, perhaps you, yourself were involved, etc) that influenced you to have this world view.

Rather than saying all that, or assuming it, I’d much rather just simply ask you to clarify your point. A point that you have STILL NOT defended. You have chosen, instead, to answer a question with another question which helps nobody gain a better understanding. I suspect it’s because you don’t actually have a logical answer which is strange because I’ve seen your posts - often times you have some really great insights! So why is THIS so challenging for you?

Now please, with respect, will you answer my damn question?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Black and Latino men among other ethnicity is are way more sexually mature at a younger age and when you mix them with young dumb hot to trot teachers you get sexual encounters have you ever seen the famous case of Mary Kay Le torno?

[–]decoy88Black Male in London2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is so wrong I can’t even.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

its so right i just did

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]DragoonXFury22 Yr Black Virgin Skater Stoner Anime Nerd NPC3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"black and latino men grow moustaches at 11"

😂😂😂 LOL...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What's changed, though--did white men used to have more game? The teachers definitely had black and Latino students before...

[–]Maybelowsmv 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

different attitudes to race?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol like when it comes to having sex in secret? Maybe.

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Meh, I knew an Armenian dude in 6th grade who had a legit beard.

[–]loke2dabrainonthexans ☠1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When Armenians grow a mustache and shave their head they look Mexican.

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You ain't wrong. What's funny is I can't grow a good mustache and would look like shit if I shaved my head. If I let myself get scruffy, with longer and more wild, kinda greasy hair (naturally greasy, not like, with product in it), I end up looking either Spanish or Italian, from what I've heard. I've also heard Jewish of some flavor. So much depends on my haircut and facial hair imo. My problem with my facial hair is it comes in a bit patchy due to acne scarring from my teenage years.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there anything you people don’t blame on the brown folks?

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[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are so many female teachers sleeping with me? Teachers and nurses are a horny bunch.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My homie lost his virginity to a 25 y/o teacher when he was 14 I think. Has been going on probably just more voiced now.

[–]GalliendI simply live with the pain0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

CMV: Female teachers fucking male students is nowhere near as bad as male teacher-female student and actually totally awesome.

"But if you switch the genders" shut the hell up. Men and women are different.

[–]BaronIncognito0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You misunderstand RP theory fundamentally if you think female teachers sleeping with male students doesn’t make sense because of status and resources. Status and especially resources are the BB half of AF/BB. Many guys that lack status and resources get laid all the time because they are the AF side of the scale.

[–]_lexxxi_980 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't take a lot of work to convince a guy, especially young, to fuck you. High school guys love anything with some tits and ass if someone is willing to give it to them they're all over it.

[–]Female_urinary_mazeWOMEN LIKE SEX.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're spot on when it comes to the fact that it's easier to catch statutory rapists when they leave digital trails.

On the other hand I think you're quite incorrect about what feminists generally believe. A lot of the old rules of female sexual behavior are (thankfully) being torn down, but that doesn't mean that there are no rules. If you pay attention to sex-positive people you hear them mention consenting adults every third sentence.

It's even possible that the boom in publishing of stories about women committing statutory rape is partially due to the feminist influence on society making statutory rape in general be taken more seriously. Do you think anybody would have batted an eye at Roy Moore's conduct before feminism?

[–]ChadThundagaCockBorderline Personality Wrangler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

FSM meaning what?

[–]nevomintoarcePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was in highschool, some of my male classmates would flirt with the attractive female teachers. They would even gather around their desks during breaks to "game them". This went on all highschool. One of my teachers (mid 30s) even married a guy who was a grade up from me when we were 19-20 ish.

[–]Tiktakchu0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is so sad. These boys are kids! This paedophilia. Just because the perpetrator is a woman, doesn't mean it's less paedophile

[–]gban840 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Technically pedophilia is defined as primary attraction to pre-pubescent children (11 and younger): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

The pedophile term is not correct for many of these cases.

[–]czerdec0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because those students are sexy little boy sluts I guess

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it’s fun.

[–]megamike1210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cuz they're fucking whores

[–]alias_guy880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting theory, and you made some good points. Overall, I think you are on the money with the pursuit of eternal youth. Women age a lot of faster than men, and I think with digital means now being more abundant, the rise of social media for instance, makes it seem as though these events have appeared out of nowhere. Where as realistically, they are now just getting more attention through social media. I feel like it’s some sort of mini early life crisis for women.

[–]strangelovesglassesstay still, eyes closed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what number of female teachers are there and how many are sleeping with their students? probably not a lot.

[–]AnarchoNAPFuchsia Pill Woman0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because predacious people seek out positions of control. Simple as that.

You have #2 backwards. The students of the past were more mature. And less likely to rat out the female teachers. Not saying that's a good thing, but its how it is.

[–]Boobear3 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the same could be said about female students sleeping with male teachers. Teen girls are more mature than teen boys and less likely to brag to all of their friends about the conquest.

[–]AnarchoNAPFuchsia Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that's more of a gender difference than a maturity difference. Historically girls were seen as victims. They still are, but now boys are ALSO seen more as victims in part because they are less mature, or at least seen that way.

[–]macsenscam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't ask why, just be happy for these lucky dudes!

[–]CainPrice-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The kind of people who end up in the caretaking professions (teachers, social workers, therapists, nurses, etc.) usually had extremely controlling (sometimes abusive) or extremely absent fathers.

This manifests itself as low self-esteem, mental illness, typically an anxious-preoccupied attachment style, and a lifetime of trying to replace the validation her father never gave her with validation from other men. She has trouble keeping a man due to her crazy and her predisposition toward selecting controlling or dismissive-avoidant men (men like her father or men who are the exact opposite of her father), so she grows up into a 20-something employed woman who's super-slutty, super-catty, and not emotionally mature, thrust into a situation where she has power over others.

[–]Offhisgame0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol social workers maybe but this is a bit of a stretch

[–]CainPrice0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I guess if we had to rank those four professions, then yes, social workers would be the least slutty of the four.

Social workers are a mixed bunch. About a third of them are activist types who sought out a career in social work - maybe half because their own lives are messed up and the other half because their own lives aren't messed up and they have upper middle class white girl guilt for not having hard lives. The other two thirds are girls who were going to be therapists but ended up in social work instead.

[–]Offhisgame0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait what? I meany the opposite. The biggest sluts i knew all became social workers. Teachers i know are mostly pretty meek types

[–]CainPrice1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Teachers are baaaaad girls. At least, new teachers are. The 40-year-old burned-out married teachers are pretty tame. But the 24-year-old girls who went into elementary education because it's an easy degr...uh I mean because they love kids? They're out drinking most weekends and are pretty easy lays.

[–]Offhisgame0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

One i know is like that. But her close teacher friend hasnt got laid in years due to high standards. So its mixed. All social workers ive seen have been slutty

[–]PostModernCommieAnarcha-Femimnist (They, Them)-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because the information is public and easily acessable so it seems like “so many” teachers sleep with their students

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not new. You just hear about it more.

How does this compare to a search of male teachers who sleep their students? Since we’re going to pretend it’s a “phenomenon” unique to women and all.

[–]maljo24-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Once you hit puberty you are a sexual creature. Why wouldn’t women be attracted to a handsome teenage boy? The cutoff is just cultural arbitrariness. It’s easy to understand why women are attracted to teen boys; it’s hard to understand why they risk breaking the law because the consequences are devastating.

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it’s hard to understand why they risk breaking the law because the consequences are devastating.

My miiind

My maaayeaaaayends's telling me no

[–]gban840 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, to say there was a mistake in judgement seems insufficient, these women most likely need treatment for mental health challenges.

[–]Boobear3-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a shoddy attempt at trying to distract everyone from the ring of male pedos that have sex trafficked thousands of teen girls over the years, don’t you think?

[–]gban840 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Talking about Epstein? Seems like that guy has gotten plenty of attention from the media as well.

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